KellysHeroes
Footballguy
theres really nothing u can do, hes too good to drop and u won't get much in trades
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Sproles owners - what are you doing with him (1 Viewer)
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The more stats the better I say. Forces you to know the game better. Who are the RB/WRs that would jump to the top of the list if return yards were counts. You should know that if you know football. Having a basic yardage/TD league is for amateurs.
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
If the saints had the stones to flip flop Ingram and ivory they'd likely have a better record. If they ever would it would likely cut morso into Pierre's snaps
Shawnky
Footballguy
This makes zero sense. How would they have a better record? Is Ivory going to paly LB or better yet CB?
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
Saints offense is good but imagine if they had more manageable 2nd and 3rd down and distances and everyone should know the ground game helps the defense with longer sustained time drives
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
A guy in next to last place just dealt him to me for Alex Green and a 3rd round pick in my PPR keeper. He's a welcomed addition this week with Ray Rice off. Anyone else bye or sell him recently?
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Sold him for Heath Miller. Sproles was my RB4/5 and would never start. Only TE was Rudolph and I lost a lot of confidence in him when he put up a bagel vs ARZ.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Saw that Sproles has a hand issue and hasn't been practicing. Any Saints owners have any updates on this? I did a quick google search but found nothing more than a generic "hand injury". Plays monday night so I guess we'll see if he practices today.
Hand is broken
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Ouch! I was counting on Sproles in 2 of my 3 leagues. Now I'm going to have to roll with Pierre Thomas in one league and flex in a bench WR in another. I'd have been in some serious misery in one league if I hadn't picked up and started Ronnie Brown last night.
What's the prognosis for a broken hand? How many weeks we talking?
What's the prognosis for a broken hand? How many weeks we talking?
No, I think it is Thomas. Thomas is a very good receiver and will now be the back on the 3rd downs and passing situations which for the Saints is usually half the game. The Saints like using screens and dumpoffs and Thomas stands to get more of those easy yards now. Up to this point Sproles has being leading the Saints in terms of snap counts but Thomas should clearly be the leader now.Indirectly it may be a boost for Ingram too because they might use Thomas a little less on early downs.
JFS171
Footballguy
Couple of thoughts here:
1) does this finally get Chris Ivory on the field on early downs? Let Thomas take on more of Sproles' role, and give Thomas' early down carries to Ivory. I know Saints fans have been clamoring for this given the lack of ground production.
2) Don't forget about Travaris Cadet. Saints loved the kid in the preseason and were terrified to try to slip him through waivers. He's a very smooth receiver, and a lot of speculation at the beginning of the year had Cadet as essentially Sproles' handcuff for the Saints.
1) does this finally get Chris Ivory on the field on early downs? Let Thomas take on more of Sproles' role, and give Thomas' early down carries to Ivory. I know Saints fans have been clamoring for this given the lack of ground production.
2) Don't forget about Travaris Cadet. Saints loved the kid in the preseason and were terrified to try to slip him through waivers. He's a very smooth receiver, and a lot of speculation at the beginning of the year had Cadet as essentially Sproles' handcuff for the Saints.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Both will benefit greatly from this.
Yeah I think Cadet will see more involvement but not necessarily Ivory. Ivory would benefit if Thomas or Ingram went out. With Sproles out I would suspect his role would now be divided between Cadet and Thomas. However, it is doubtful Cadet's role would be big enough to warrant a pick up. Sproles himself has been pretty borderline.
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
I am replacing him with Pierre. Hopefully in PPR he will take advantage of the increased targets/catches.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I expect Pierre to make a nice leap in the rankings. He is probably up in the area code of Bradshaw and Stewart.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I would hope so but I doubt it when referring to Ingram. He clearly a volume runner and I don't think he'll see a big enough boost to put him back on the radar. That being sad, I just stashed him in one of my RB hungry leagues just to see what happens.My take is..Moore and PT see the biggest bump.Graham sees the next biggest bump.Colston and Ingram see incremental bumps.Cadet is someone to keep any eye one.
DevilintheDetail
Footballguy
Combined with the Saints' terrible record, this could be a huge bump for Thomas for the ROS. The broken hand was serious enough to require surgery. If Sproles misses, say, four weeks, wouldn't they put him on IR if their record is like 3-9?
Pierre Thomas can be a star again. Solid RB2 with RB1 upside on that offense since he can also catch. Not sure about Ingram and his role. He may get a couple more carries per game to give Thomas a breather. But clearly this is the Pierre Thomas show as far as the Saints RBs go.
He was not available in any of my leagues. Darn.
He was not available in any of my leagues. Darn.
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JFS171
Footballguy
Just reviewed the preseason - Cadet caught 30 passes for 246 yards over 4 games while Sproles didn't play. He also returned kicks and punts.
In other words, Sproles has been out for this team before. They replaced him with Cadet, who played so well he forced the team to keep 5 RBs on the roster. He's worked on special teams, covered kicks, returned kicks and punts, and played the same role as Sproles in the offense.
Keep a close eye here... I grabbed him in a couple of deep leagues. To me, he's the Sproles duplicate on the roster...
And as a previous poster speculated, if Sproles injury lingers, and the Saints continue to struggle, why not find out what they have in Cadet?
In other words, Sproles has been out for this team before. They replaced him with Cadet, who played so well he forced the team to keep 5 RBs on the roster. He's worked on special teams, covered kicks, returned kicks and punts, and played the same role as Sproles in the offense.
Keep a close eye here... I grabbed him in a couple of deep leagues. To me, he's the Sproles duplicate on the roster...
And as a previous poster speculated, if Sproles injury lingers, and the Saints continue to struggle, why not find out what they have in Cadet?
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I disagree with this. Ingram doesn't fit the Saints offense and specifically having to come from behind a lot because of their pourous defense. It could just as easily be Cadet who fills out the Sproles role better. Thomas gets a boost to RB2 status and the guys behind him are lottery pick handcuffs.
JFS171
Footballguy
Agree - convinced myself to drop Ivory for Cadet in the deep leagues where I was hoping against hope.
DevilintheDetail
Footballguy
Anyone know how he hurt the hand? How unusual is it to get surgery for a broken hand?
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Lol CBS has cadet in the fa pool as a FA like not on the saints...
boonesfarm4me
Footballguy
The Biloxi Sun Herald suggests Darren Sproles' fractured hand could cost him up to eight weeks of action.
The Sun Herald allows that Sproles could return sooner if he's able to play with a cast on the hand. We would presume a pass-catching running back would have a far harder time playing with a casted hand than most other positions. The Saints provided no timetable for Sproles' return at coach Joe Vitt's Friday presser, but clearly fantasy owners should brace for a multi-week absence.
Source: Biloxi Sun Herald Nov 2 - 8:31 PM
The Sun Herald allows that Sproles could return sooner if he's able to play with a cast on the hand. We would presume a pass-catching running back would have a far harder time playing with a casted hand than most other positions. The Saints provided no timetable for Sproles' return at coach Joe Vitt's Friday presser, but clearly fantasy owners should brace for a multi-week absence.
Source: Biloxi Sun Herald Nov 2 - 8:31 PM
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Yes. And if it's a PPR league... HELL yes.This is all Pierre, all the time. He's the only back there with the skill set to replicate what Sproles gave them.
kegger
Footballguy
I picked up PT in one league he was out there and dropped Rashad Jennings.
(yah I know people are "relatively" high on R. Jennings but I just do not see it)
We have very small bench space in that league, I have Trich, Demarco Murray
an CJ Spiller, an we can only have 4RB's on our roster, with play 2 each week.
I'm now playing Trich and PT this week there..
With Sproles out I can't see how PT doesn't make pretty big production increase.
(I can only see him pulled now for the breather, at least for the next few weeks)
Myself I would play PT over Turner this week, and I gotta think PT is the better
option then guys like Rashad Jennings, C.J. Spiller, Jonathan Stewart, Leshoure.
That's about where I have PT's floor ranked, just above those RB's I'd mentioned.
(with a chance at an much higher ceiling in that Saints Offense, I think anyway)
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(yah I know people are "relatively" high on R. Jennings but I just do not see it)
We have very small bench space in that league, I have Trich, Demarco Murray
an CJ Spiller, an we can only have 4RB's on our roster, with play 2 each week.
I'm now playing Trich and PT this week there..
With Sproles out I can't see how PT doesn't make pretty big production increase.
(I can only see him pulled now for the breather, at least for the next few weeks)
Myself I would play PT over Turner this week, and I gotta think PT is the better
option then guys like Rashad Jennings, C.J. Spiller, Jonathan Stewart, Leshoure.
That's about where I have PT's floor ranked, just above those RB's I'd mentioned.
(with a chance at an much higher ceiling in that Saints Offense, I think anyway)
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
How many of them will he be fumbling?
Rylenol
Footballguy
YouTube clip here of Cadet back in August at practice lining up in what appears to be Sproles' position. Really there's two ways of looking at this. The first being that the coaches figure they split Sproles workload between Ingram and Thomas. The other side being that they feel comfortable enough with Cadet to fill Sproles role on offense.
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
Man, actually feel bad about moving Sproles in a trade Tuesday night. Had no idea he was injured and I had multiple offers for him. Ended up getting Nicks and Mike Williams for Sproles, Boldin and S. Moss. Oof.
Islanders rule
Footballguy
But have you got rid of Blount yet?
I fell into the opposite trap. Moved Doug Martin following the Carl Nicks news in a trade package late Wednesday that included Jimmy Graham knowing I still had Sproles and Spiller to start going forward.Now with Sproles out I'm forced to roll the dice on Ronnie Hillman this week. Hoping this isn't a long-term injury; losing Sproles hurts in return yardage/PPR formats.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Guessing he broke a metacarpul and they had to put a tiny pin in. But 8 weeks seems long for that so not sure.'DevilintheDetail said:
Jimmy Graham on Tuesday. Had ZERO idea he was injured.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Puts him out until week 13 at the earliest. Is he even rosterable anymore?
Ace zero1
Footballguy
Yeah...why give an opponent him right before playoffs?
The Kerminator
Footballguy
It sounds like week 13 is the best case scenario. If you take the worst case scenario of 6 weeks he's out until week 15. Are you going to trust throwing him in in your playoff matchup at that point? Meanwhile, he may be taking up valuable roster space while an opponent of yours is working the waiver wire.In leagues with strict roster requirements it's a tough call depending on what's on your waiver wire. In leagues with large rosters he's a stash and hope.
