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4.16 Renesauz - Jay Cutler, Den, QB10 8

8.16 Renesauz - Trent Edwards, Buf, QB23 6

1.01 Renesauz - LaDainian Tomlinson, SD, RB1 9

3.01 Renesauz - Jamal Lewis, Cle, RB17 5

10.16 Renesauz - Cedric Benson, Chi, RB45 8

13.01 Renesauz - Sammy Morris, NE, RB54 4

2.16 Renesauz - Brandon Marshall, Den, WR12 8

6.16 Renesauz - Patrick Crayton, Dal, WR39 10

7.01 Renesauz - Ronald Curry, Oak, WR40 5

11.01 Renesauz - Earnest Wilford, Mia, WR62 4

15.01 Renesauz - Nate Washington, Pit, WR81 6

18.16 Renesauz - Devard Darling, KC, WR98 6

5.01 Renesauz - Dallas Clark, Ind, TE7 4

9.01 Renesauz - L.J. Smith, Phi, TE18 7

12.16 Renesauz - Philadelphia Eagles, DST14 7

17.01 Renesauz - Carolina Panthers, DST23 9

14.16 Renesauz - Phil Dawson, Cle, PK10 5

16.16 Renesauz - Shaun Suisham, Was, PK26 10

3.02 Shadowfax - Tony Romo, Dal, QB3 10

16.15 Shadowfax - Josh McCown, Mia, QB31 4

18.15 Shadowfax - John Beck, Mia, QB34 4

1.02 Shadowfax - Adrian Peterson, Min, RB2 8

5.02 Shadowfax - Jonathan Stewart, Car, RB25 9

7.02 Shadowfax - Fred Taylor, Jac, RB33 7

2.15 Shadowfax - Torry Holt, SL, WR11 5

6.15 Shadowfax - Bobby Engram, Sea, WR38 4

8.15 Shadowfax - Tedd Ginn, Mia, WR49 4

9.02 Shadowfax - D.J. Hackett, Car, WR50 9

12.15 Shadowfax - Mark Bradley, Chi, WR74 8

13.02 Shadowfax - Demetrius Williams, Bal, WR75 10

4.15 Shadowfax - Todd Heap, Bal, TE6 10

17.02 Shadowfax - Martrez Milner, Atl, TE29 7

10.15 Shadowfax - Bears, Chi, D6 8

11.02 Shadowfax - New England Patriots, DST7 4

14.15 Shadowfax - Mason Crosby, GB, PK9 8

15.02 Shadowfax - Rob Bironas, Ten, PK11 6

4.14 Jmills - Derek Anderson, Cle, QB9 5

9.03 Jmills - Tarvaris Jackson, Min, QB24 8

1.03 Jmills - Steven Jackson, SL, RB3 5

2.14 Jmills - Michael Turner, Atl, RB16 7

7.03 Jmills - Travis Henry, Den, RB34 8

18.15 Shadowfax - John Beck, Mia, QB34 4

3.03 Jmills - Wes Welker, NE, WR13 4

5.03 Jmills - Chris Chambers, SD, WR25 9

6.14 Jmills - Bernard Berrian, Min, WR37 8

11.03 Jmills - Steve Smith, NYG, WR63 4

12.14 Jmills - Antwaan Randle El, Was, WR73 10

14.14 Jmills - Jacoby Jones, Hou, WR80 8

8.14 Jmills - Ben Watson, NE, TE17 4

13.03 Jmills - Marcedes, Lewis, Jac, TE23 7

10.14 Jmills - Steelers, Pit, D5 6

17.03 Jmills - New York Jets, DST24 5

15.03 Jmills - Jason Elam, Atl, PK16 7

16.14 Jmills - John Casay, Car, PK26 9

4.13 Lhucks - Matt Hasselbeck, Sea, QB8 4

11.04 Lhucks - Alex Smith, SF, QB28 9

1.04 Lhucks - Brian Westbrook, Phi, RB4 7

5.04 Lhucks - LenDale White, Ten, RB26 6

7.04 Lhucks - Chester Taylor, Min, RB35 8

12.13 Lhucks - Warrick Dunn, TB, RB53 10

3.04 Lhucks - Chad Johnson, Cin, WR14 8

6.13 Lhucks - Derrick Mason, Bal, WR36 10

8.13 Lhucks - Bryant Johnson, SF, WR48 7

9.04 Lhucks - Vincent Jackson, SD, WR51 9

10.13 Lhucks - Marty Booker, Chi, WR61 8

16.13 Lhucks - Dennis Northcutt, Jac, WR87 7

17.04 Lhucks - Terry Glenn, Dal, WR88 10

2.13 Lhucks - Kellen Winslow Jr., Cle, TE2 5

13.04 Lhucks - Tennessee Titans, DST15 6

18.13 Lhucks - Miami Dolphins, DST29 4

14.13 Lhucks - Jeff Reed, Pit, PK8 6

15.04 Lhucks - David Akers, Phi, PK12 7

5.05 Restless Natives - Marc Bulger, SL, QB11 5

7.05 Restless Natives - Matt Schaub, Hou, QB16 8

1.05 Restless Natives - Clinton Portis, Was, RB5 10

6.12 Restless Natives - Kevin Smith, Det, RB32 4

11.05 Restless Natives - Jerious Norwood, Atl, RB46 7

16.12 Restless Natives - DeShaun Foster, SF, RB60 9

2.12 Restless Natives - Plaxico Burress, NYG, WR10 4

3.05 Restless Natives - Anquan Boldin, Ari, WR15 7

4.12 Restless Natives - Hines Ward, Pit, WR24 6

9.05 Restless Natives - Kevin Walter, Hou, WR52 8

14.12 Restless Natives - Brad Smith, NYJ, WR79 5

15.05 Restless Natives - Justin McCareins, Ten, WR82 6

8.12 Restless Natives - Greg Olsen, Chi, TE16 8

12.12 Restless Natives - Eric Johnson, NO, TE22 9

10.12 Restless Natives - Jaguars, Jac, D4 7

17.05 Restless Natives - San Francisco 49ers, DST25 9

13.05 Restless Natives - Stephen Gostkowski, NE, PK1 4

18.12 Restless Natives - Billy Cundiff, KC, PK30 6

4.11 Fullback Fro - Donovan McNabb, Phi, QB7 7

9.06 Fullback Fro - JaMarcus Russel, Oak, QB25 5

1.06 Fullback Fro - Joseph Addai, Ind, RB6 4

5.06 Fullback Fro - Julius Jones, Sea, RB27 4

8.11 Fullback Fro - Chris Johnson, Ten, RB39 6

12.11 Fullback Fro - Rickey Williams, Mia, RB52 4

3.06 Fullback Fro - Santonio Holmes, Pit, WR16 6

6.11 Fullback Fro - Marvin Harrison, Ind, WR35 4

7.06 Fullback Fro - Isaac Bruce, SF, WR41 9

10.11 Fullback Fro - Justin Gage, Ten, WR60 6

11.06 Fullback Fro - Laurent Robinson, Atl, WR64 7

18.11 Fullback Fro - Devin Thomas, Was, WR97 10

2.11 Fullback Fro - Jason Witten, Dal, TE1 10

13.06 Fullback Fro - Anthony Fasano, Mia, TE24 4

14.11 Fullback Fro - Houston Texans, DST17 8

17.06 Fullback Fro - New Orleans Saints, DST26 9

15.06 Fullback Fro - Neil Rackers, Ari, PK13 7

16.11 Fullback Fro - Joe Nedney, SF, PK25 9

7.07 wdcrob - Vince Young, Ten, QB17 6

10.10 wdcrob - Rex Grossman, Chi, QB27 8

1.07 wdcrob - Frank Gore, SF, RB7 9

3.07 wdcrob - Laurence Maroney, NE, RB18 4

12.10 wdcrob - Brandon Jackson, GB, RB51 8

18.10 wdcrob - Brian Calhoun, Det, RB66 4

2.10 wdcrob - Braylon Edwards, Cle, WR9 5

4.10 wdcrob - Calvin Johnson, Det, WR23 4

6.10 wdcrob - Reggie Brown, Phi, WR34 7

8.10 wdcrob - Darrell Jackson, Den, WR47 8

13.07 wdcrob - Chad Jackson, NE, WR76 4

17.07 wdcrob - Jerome Simpson, Cin, WR89 8

5.07 wdcrob - Jeremy Shockey. NYG, TE8 4

9.07 wdcrob - Randy McMichael, SL, TE19 5

11.07 wdcrob - Giant, NY, D8 4

15.07 wdcrob - Washington Redskins, DST18 10

14.10 wdcrob - Josh Scobee, Jac, PK7 7

16.10 wdcrob - Ryan Lindell, Buf, PK24 6

1.08 Redzone - Tom Brady, NE, QB1 4

8.09 Redzone - Jeff Garcia, TB, QB22 10

3.08 Redzone - Earnest Graham, TB, RB19 10

6.09 Redzone - Matt Forte, Chi, RB31 8

7.08 Redzone - Chris Brown, Hou RB36 8

12.09 Redzone - Dominic Rhodes, Ind, RB50 4

2.09 Redzone - T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Cin, WR8 8

5.08 Redzone - Jerry Porter, Jac, WR26 7

9.08 Redzone - Devin Hester, Chi, WR53 8

11.08 Redzone - Muhsin Muhammad, Car, WR65 9

14.09 Redzone - Drew Carter, Oak, WR78 5

16.09 Redzone - Josh Reed, Buf, WR86 6

4.09 Redzone - Chris Cooley, Was, TE5 10

13.08 Redzone - Ben Utecht, Cin, TE25 8

10.09 Redzone - Cowboys, Dal, D3 10

17.08 Redzone - Kansas City Chiefs, DST27 6

15.08 Redzone - Robbie Gould, Chi, PK14 8

18.09 Redzone - Jay Feely, Mia, PK30 4

4.08 ArhnCityPahnder - Ben Roethlisberger, Pit, QB6 6

11.09 ArhnCityPahnder - Brodie Croyle, KC, QB29 6

18.08 ArhnCityPahnder - Charlie Batch, Pit, QB33 6

3.09 ArhnCityPahnder - Edgerrin James, Ari, RB20 7

6.08 ArhnCityPahnder - Rashard Mendenhall, Pit, RB30 6

8.08 ArhnCityPahnder - Kenny Watson, Cin, RB38 8

10.08 ArhnCityPahnder - Justin Fargas, Oak, RB44 5

14.08 ArhnCityPahnder - Tatum Bell, Det, RB58 4

1.09 ArhnCityPahnder - Randy Moss, NE, WR1 4

2.08 ArhnCityPahnder - Steve Smith, Car, WR7 9

5.09 ArhnCityPahnder - Donald Driver, GB, WR27 8

9.09 ArhnCityPahnder - Roydell Williams, Ten, WR54 6

13.09 ArhnCityPahnder - Shaun McDonald, Det, WR77 4

7.09 ArhnCityPahnder - Vernon Davis, SF, TE11 9

12.08 ArhnCityPahnder - Oakland Raiders, DST13 5

15.09 ArhnCityPahnder - Buffalo Bills, DST19 6

16.08 ArhnCityPahnder - Matt Bryant, TB, PK23 10

17.09 ArhnCityPahnder - Sebastion Janikowski, Oak, PK28 5

5.10 Jeff Tefertiller - Eli Manning, NYG, QB12 4

8.07 Jeff Tefertiller - Jake Delhomme, Car, QB21 9

1.10 Jeff Tefertiller - Reggie Bush, NO, RB8 9

6.07 Jeff Tefertiller - DeAngelo Williams, Car, RB29 9

14.07 Jeff Tefertiller - Michael Bush, Oak, RB57 5

17.10 Jeff Tefertiller - Jamaal Charles, KC, RB61 6

18.07 Jeff Tefertiller - Kolby Smith, KC, RB65 6

2.07 Jeff Tefertiller - Marquis Colston, NO, WR6 9

3.10 Jeff Tefertiller - Jericho Cotchery, NYJ, WR17 5

4.07 Jeff Tefertiller - Roddy White, Atl, WR22 7

7.10 Jeff Tefertiller - Jabar Gaffney, NE, WR42 4

12.07 Jeff Tefertiller - DeSean Jackson, Phi, WR72 7

9.10 Jeff Tefertiller - Dustin Keller, NYJ, TE20 5

10.07 Jeff Tefertiller - Desmond Clark, Chi, TE21 8

11.10 Jeff Tefertiller - Green Bay Packers, DST9 8

16.07 Jeff Tefertiller - Cleveland Browns, DST22 5

13.10 Jeff Tefertiller - Nick Folk, Dal, PK2 10

15.10 Jeff Tefertiller - Kris Brown, Hou, PK15 8

4.06 Rzrback77 - Carson Palmer, Cin, QB5 8

7.11 Rzrback77 - Jason Campbell, Was, QB18 10

1.11 Rzrback77 - Marshawn Lynch, Buf, RB9 6

8.06 Rzrback77 - Felix Jones, Dal, RB37 10

9.11 Rzrback77 - Selvin Young, Den, RB40 8

17.11 Rzrback77 - Pierre Thomas, NO, RB62 9

13.11 Rzrback77 - Deuce McCallister, NO, RB55 9

2.06 Rzrback77 - Andre Johnson, Hou, WR5 8

5.11 Rzrback77 - Laveraneus Coles, NYJ, WR28 5

6.06 Rzrback77 - Javon Walker, Den, WR33 8

10.06 Rzrback77- Arnaz Battle, SF, WR59 9

12.06 Rzrback77 - Robert Meachem, NO, WR71 9

15.11 Rzrback77 - Michael Jenkins, Atl, WR83 7

3.11 Rxrback77 - Antonio Gates, SD, TE3 9

14.06 Rzrback77 - John Carlson, Sea, TE28 4

11.11 Rzrback77 - Baltimore Ravens, DST10 10

18.06 Rzrback77 - Detroit Lions, DST28 4

16.06 Rzrback77 - Mike Nugent, NYJ, PK22 5

6.05 Ruffrody05 - Phillip Rivers, SD, QB15 9

13.12 Ruffrody05 - Matt Ryan, Atl, QB30 7

1.12 Ruffrody05 - Larry Johnson, KC, RB10 6

2.05 Ruffrody05 - Ronnie Brown, Mia, RB15 4

11.12 Ruffrody05 - Leon Washington, NYJ, RB47 5

12.05 Ruffrody05 - Ray Rice, Bal, RB49 10

3.12 Ruffrody05 - Roy Williams, Det, WR18 4

4.05 Ruffrody05 - Greg Jennings, GB, WR21 8

5.12 Ruffrody05 - Kevin Curtis, Phi, WR29 7

9.12 Ruffrody05 - Reggie Williams, Jac, WR55 7

10.05 Ruffrody05- Deion Branch, Sea, WR58 4

18.05 Ruffrody05 - Limas Sweed, Pit, WR96 6

7.12 Ruffrody05 - Heath Miller, Pit, TE12 6

8.05 Ruffrody05 - Donald Lee, GB, TE15 8

14.05 Ruffrody05 - Indianapolis Colts, DST16 4

15.12 Ruffrody05 - Arizona Cardinals, DST20 7

16.05 Ruffrody05 - Lawrence Tynes, NYG, PK21 4

17.12 Ruffrody05 - Matt Prater, Den, PK29 8

4.04 Duckboy - Drew Brees, NO, QB4 9

10.04 Duckboy- Kellen Clemens, NYJ, QB26 5

1.13 Duckboy - Maurice Jones-Drew, Jac, RB11 7

3.13 Duckboy - Thomas Jones, NYJ, RB21 5

9.13 Duckboy - Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG, RB41 4

18.04 Duckboy - Cadillac Williams, TB, RB64 10

2.04 Duckboy - Larry Fitzgerald, Ari, WR4 7

5.13 Duckboy - Santana Moss, Was, WR30 10

7.13 Duckboy - Sidney Rice, Min, WR43 8

8.04 Duckboy - Nate Burleson, Sea, WR46 4

11.13 Duckboy - James Hardy, Buf, WR66 6

17.13 Duckboy - Earl Bennett, Chi, WR90 8

6.04 Duckboy - Owen Daniels, Hou, TE10 8

13.13 Duckboy - Jeff King, Car, TE26 9

12.04 Duckboy - Seahawks, Sea, D12 4

16.04 Duckboy - Denver Broncos, DST21 8

14.04 Duckboy - Nate Kaeding, SD, PK6 9

15.13 Duckboy - Jason Hanson, Det, PK17 4

5.14 Frank Black - David Garrard, Jac, QB13 7

8.03 Frank Black - Jon Kitna, Det, QB20 4

13.14 Frank Black - Kurt Warner, Ari, QB31 7

1.14 Frank Black - Ryan Grant, GB, RB12 8

2.03 Frank Black - Willis McGahee, Buf, RB14 6

10.03 Frank Black- Shaun Alexander, FA, RB43 tbd

15.14 Frank Black - Maurice Morris, Sea, RB59 4

4.03 Frank Black - Lee Evans, Buf, WR20 6

6.03 Frank Black - Anthony Gonzalez, Ind, WR32 4

7.14 Frank Black - Donte Stallworth, Cle, WR44 5

9.14 Frank Black - Drew Bennett, SL, WR56 5

11.14 Frank Black - David Patten, NO, WR67 9

17.14 Frank Black - Devery Henderson, NO, WR91 9

18.03 Frank Black - Ike Hilliard, TB, WR95 10

3.14 Frank Black - Tony Gonzalez, KC, TE4 6

12.03 Frank Black - Buccaneers, TB, D11 10

14.03 Frank Black - Shayne Graham, Cin, PK5 8

16.03 Frank Black - Matt Stover, Bal, PK20 10

2.02 Orgazmo - Peyton Manning, Ind, QB2 4

1.15 Orgazmo - Marion Barber III, Dal, RB13 10

3.15 Orgazmo - Darren McFadden, Oak, RB22 5

9.15 Orgazmo - Ahman Green, Hou, RB42 8

13.15 Orgazmo - Ladell Betts, Was, RB56 10

17.15 Orgazmo - Ryan Torain Den, RB63 8

4.02 Orgazmo - Dwayne Bowe, KC, WR18 6

6.02 Orgazmo - Joey Galloway, TB, WR31 10

7.15 Orgazmo - Mark Clayton, Bal, WR45 10

11.15 Orgazmo - Brandon Stokely, Den, WR68 8

12.02 Orgazmo - Amani Toomer, NYG, WR70 4

15.15 Orgazmo - Malcom Kelly, Was, WR84 10

18.02 Orgazmo - Courtney Taylor, Sea, WR94 4

5.15 Orgazmo - Tony Scheffler, Den, TE9 8

8.02 Orgazmo - Zach Miller, Oak, TE14 6

10.02 Orgazmo- Vikings, Min, D2 8

14.02 Orgazmo - Josh Brown, SL, PK4 5

16.02 Orgazmo - Taylor Mehlhaff, NO, PK19 9

5.16 Chaos Commish - Aaron Rodgers, GB, QB14 8

7.16 Chaos Commish - Matt Leinart, Ari, QB19 7

3.16 Chaos Commish - Willie Parker, Pit, RB23 6

4.01 Chaos Commish - Brandon Jacobs, NYG, RB24 4

6.01 Chaos Commish - Rudi Johnson, Cin, RB28 8

11.16 Chaos Commish - Lorenzo Booker, Phi, RB48 7

1.16 Chaos Commish - Reggie Wayne, Ind, WR2 4

2.01 Chaos Commish - Terrell Owens, Dal, WR3 10

9.16 Chaos Commish - James Jones, GB, WR57 8

12.01 Chaos Commish - Donnie Avery, SL, WR69 5

16.01 Chaos Commish - Joshua Cribbs, Cle, WR85 5

17.16 Chaos Commish - Bobby Wade, Min, WR92 8

18.01 Chaos Commish - Eric Parker, SD, WR93 9

8.01 Chaos Commish - Alge Crumpler, Ten, TE13 6

13.16 Chaos Commish - Leornard Pope, Ari, TE27 7

10.01 Chaos Commish- Chargers, SD, D1 9

14.01 Chaos Commish - Adam Vinatieri, Ind, PK3 4

15.16 Chaos Commish - Ryan Longwell, Min, PK18 8

 
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With all of the RBBCs that seem to be in store for this season, this year may be the year to go WR-WR. I see a lot of parity in the RB situation this year. Chaos and ACP got ahead of the WR curve with Moss/Smith and TO/Wayne. I tip my hat off to them for having the stones.

 
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Fullback Fro said:
It will be interesting to see how you fill RB after a WR WR start.
FWIW, Reaper did the same thing in SSL1 and I did as well in SSL2 (both went Moss then Fitz and Colston respectively). We both ended up with Earnest Graham as our main RB and Reaper got Brandon Jacobs, who if stays healthy will make for a pretty solid 1-2 punch.
 
Fullback Fro said:
It will be interesting to see how you fill RB after a WR WR start.
When I woke up this morning, I was surprised to see that start myself. :)I'm not sure what I was thinking last night. I was sleep picking, but I think I didn't want to get trapped scraping the bottom of each tier. So, I have upper tier WRs and need to cobble together a running game. I think being on a corner made me comfortable with the challenge for some reason. Definitely not the recommended route in a 16er.
 
With all of the RBBCs that seem to be in store for this season, this year may be the year to go WR-WR. I see a lot of parity in the RB situation this year. Chaos and ACP got ahead of the WR curve with Moss/Smith and TO/Wayne. I tip my hat off to them for having the stones.
I agree and was ready to go this route if I was in the 10-16 spot. With all the RBs falling in WSL and PDSL (maybe due to unknowns re: the draft) and all the RBBC, this year seems like a good year to test the waters with this strategy. I'd rather have ACP's position than Chaos as the middle spots will be less susceptible to runs and may/should be able to grab some middle tier RBs to fill in his squad. Chaos may have to reach a bit more in order to secure his RBs.
 
I went Brady, Braylon, Edge, TJones in SSL1 (14th pick)

FWP was available late 3rd as well

Agree that its a good year to take the risk

 
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With all of the RBBCs that seem to be in store for this season, this year may be the year to go WR-WR. I see a lot of parity in the RB situation this year. Chaos and ACP got ahead of the WR curve with Moss/Smith and TO/Wayne. I tip my hat off to them for having the stones.
I agree and was ready to go this route if I was in the 10-16 spot. With all the RBs falling in WSL and PDSL (maybe due to unknowns re: the draft) and all the RBBC, this year seems like a good year to test the waters with this strategy. I'd rather have ACP's position than Chaos as the middle spots will be less susceptible to runs and may/should be able to grab some middle tier RBs to fill in his squad. Chaos may have to reach a bit more in order to secure his RBs.
I felt better about the idea before two other teams decided to also enter the 3rd RBless. I felt a little frustrated in PDSL because being near a corner motivated me to reach several times, mostly out of protection. I'm going to try to play this differently, and see if the draft won't come to me if I take a few risks. Then again, I am known to reach from any spot in any size draft because my projections generally vary widely from ADPs. So the corner has always been comfortable for me. Anyway, if I wasn't all :shrug: , I wouldn't have started this thread.
 
I think that taking WR - WR to start is a great theory this year and glad to see two guys going that route in my league. :shrug:

 
Just noticed that Jeff's first two picks share a bye (obviously both being Saints) as well as Duckboy's. Thoughts on this stragegy? Worries? Unsubstantiated worries? Do you take the player you like best regardless of bye weeks early in the draft and work around it? Or is it better to try and spread the bye weeks throughout the draft?

Would you tend to ignore the bye weeks if they are early in the season, like Week 4? Would you feel the same way if they shared a Week 10 bye? Week 4 seems like a more viable strategy due to it's early in the season and there are 6 teams on bye.

Do you now feel you have to work around that bye week and perhaps shy away from players that share that bye week?

 
Just noticed that Jeff's first two picks share a bye (obviously both being Saints) as well as Duckboy's. Thoughts on this stragegy? Worries? Unsubstantiated worries? Do you take the player you like best regardless of bye weeks early in the draft and work around it? Or is it better to try and spread the bye weeks throughout the draft?Would you tend to ignore the bye weeks if they are early in the season, like Week 4? Would you feel the same way if they shared a Week 10 bye? Week 4 seems like a more viable strategy due to it's early in the season and there are 6 teams on bye. Do you now feel you have to work around that bye week and perhaps shy away from players that share that bye week?
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Just noticed that Jeff's first two picks share a bye (obviously both being Saints) as well as Duckboy's. Thoughts on this stragegy? Worries? Unsubstantiated worries? Do you take the player you like best regardless of bye weeks early in the draft and work around it? Or is it better to try and spread the bye weeks throughout the draft?Would you tend to ignore the bye weeks if they are early in the season, like Week 4? Would you feel the same way if they shared a Week 10 bye? Week 4 seems like a more viable strategy due to it's early in the season and there are 6 teams on bye. Do you now feel you have to work around that bye week and perhaps shy away from players that share that bye week?
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I thought so. Now shoo away back to your little elistest group.
 
Just noticed that Jeff's first two picks share a bye (obviously both being Saints) as well as Duckboy's. Thoughts on this stragegy? Worries? Unsubstantiated worries? Do you take the player you like best regardless of bye weeks early in the draft and work around it? Or is it better to try and spread the bye weeks throughout the draft?Would you tend to ignore the bye weeks if they are early in the season, like Week 4? Would you feel the same way if they shared a Week 10 bye? Week 4 seems like a more viable strategy due to it's early in the season and there are 6 teams on bye. Do you now feel you have to work around that bye week and perhaps shy away from players that share that bye week?
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I thought so. Now shoo away back to your little elistest group.
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Just noticed that Jeff's first two picks share a bye (obviously both being Saints) as well as Duckboy's. Thoughts on this stragegy? Worries? Unsubstantiated worries? Do you take the player you like best regardless of bye weeks early in the draft and work around it? Or is it better to try and spread the bye weeks throughout the draft?Would you tend to ignore the bye weeks if they are early in the season, like Week 4? Would you feel the same way if they shared a Week 10 bye? Week 4 seems like a more viable strategy due to it's early in the season and there are 6 teams on bye. Do you now feel you have to work around that bye week and perhaps shy away from players that share that bye week?
For the first couple of rounds, and especially if there is a tier dropoff imo, I don't pay attention to bye weeks. Would have been more important to me if the bye weeks were at the same position (RB or WR) since that means I need to make up for it more greatly within one spot. Earlier byes or weeks with many byes (4 and 8 this year) are more ideal for group since more teams will have issues.I will need to work around the bye week now, but will not decline talent just to avoid the issue. Had a similar issue in PDSL last year when my top 4 picks, all on different teams, ended up with the same bye week. Went out before the bye came up anyway. So more likely to emphasize talent but can't ignore the coverage either.
 
It is a little uncomfortably critiquing teams when I don't know any of you guys well and have only posted or pm'd to a couple of you.

I went QB-WR this year and it mirrors the strategy that had me at the top of the points total list almost the entire season last year for all four SSL leagues. Granted Welker was on the team from a mid-teen round pick as a major bonus, but I had crappy RBs. Had I (or the Texans or Panthers) been able to count on David Carr for one game (week 10), I may have won the league.

Aside from LT, ADP, SJax and Westy, I didn't see a RB that justified losing Brady. NE should be a powerhouse again, and with Stallworth being the only loss, I think Brady was a justifiable first round pick.

From the mid-round position, there wasn't a top or even second tier RB, and I knew I would be looking at second tier WR if I waited until the third, so TJ was an easy choice. Hopefully, 85 will stick around and play to draw the #1 DB, but regardless, I am happier with TJ than I would have been with any RBs that were available. Graham is at least as productive as any RBs picked 2nd or 3rd round. I would have liked to have Turner, just because I like the kool-aid. I want that guy to go to the pro-bowl.

The RB spot will be hard to pick this year aside from the top five or six. So many injuries, age, RBBC and the passing game is opening up. Few teams are run dominant that will be high-scoring offenses.

Looking at the teams,

Renesauz - LT is solid but I don't like the division between Marshall and Cutler. Marshall needs to get his personal life together if I am reading the stories and blogs correctly. Jamal ran well last year, but he is coming off disappointing years. Derek Anderson showed he could throw and I think the air game is dominant in Cleveland

Shadowfax - no weaknesses. Romo is Manning good this year, ADP is money if he stays injury free and Holt is dependable. St Louis is a bit of a shambles and I would have picked one of the other available WRs at this spot but nice start.

Jmills - Grabbed my man Turner. Hopefully, Atlanta will give him the opportunity to get in the endzone regularly. Welker may have been a round early, but we all saw his role in the NE offense last year. SJax, solid. Could be good if Welker maintains production and the Falcons mount an offense.

LHUCKS - is he the fantasy version of Dallas? CJ and Winslow are both great producers who are management nightmares. CJ is angling to be off the team somehow though I am sure he will play and almost certainly in Cincy. Winslow is a player if someone will babysit him off the field. What he could have been if he didn't screw up the first two years. Could have been the next Gonzo. I give this team a high risk, high reward nod but more risk than I would take. Westy, solid.

Restless Natives - Nice picks but players I never draft because I place them lower on the rankings than most. Plaxico has attitude problems and that bothers me, production aside. NYG won the big game playing defense and unless a running game develops in NYG, he will face tough cover schemes. Portis has had health issues since that weird injury and Anquan was contractually offended. Good team but players I avoid.

Will finish later.

 
I should edit my previous post. I did draft Reggie Bush first round last year, but the value of that pick paled in comparison to what Brady provided and likely will provide this year.

Fullback Fro - Addai is a great pick, especially being one of the few feature backs in the league on a team with a strong passing game. Witten is money and I would have picked him up if TJ wasn't available. Witten may outproduce TJ even. I like the Holmes pick. I think he is going to emerge as one of the top 12 wr this year. I see Pitt balancing their attack. Not Shadowfax, but a dang good team.

wdcrob - He suffers from the mid-late picks like I and a few others faced. Rather than reach out for top tier in non-rb positions, he went traditional and grabbed Gore, who will be running in a new Martz offense (one lacking a dominant WR) and has an injury history. In a non-ppr, maybe, but there may have been stronger value in a QB or WR (Romo, Wayne). Mauroney came on strong late last year, but his role in the NE offense is inconsistent. NE will try to dominate in the air but his is a good pick third round for #2 rb. Only risk is opportunity cost in not picking up a high-tier WR or TE. Braylon Edwards will be good this year, with a better O line and an established starting QB to develop chemistry with Anderson. Winslow and possibly some of the draft picks from this year will help draw off some of the coverage. Decent team so far, but remains to be seen what he does in other positions.

ACP - Nothing to disrespect about going Moss, Smith in terms of value but I don't like Edge since he went to AZ. But given what was available, and the fact that he has no competition at the position, he was at least as good as anything that would have been available a round earlier.

Jeff T - depending upon a NO offense that kind of fell apart early last year. Bush was a disappointment to me last year but he certainly has the ability to be a big PPR producer. Remains to be seen how Deuce does and what his role (especially in the red zone) will be this year. Talk of Alexander coming to visit suggests that Bush will never be more than part of a one-two RB attack. Shared bye week for first two picks is another issue. Cotchery can be good but the Jets passing game is a work in progress to me. I always prefer a situation where there is not so much uncertainty at QB. Team could excel on up weeks and fall flat on down weeks so far.

Rzr - snagged Gates and if he reports healthy at the start of the season, he will be a steal. If he misses a few weeks or re-injures the toe, such is the risk. Nice pick that I nearly made as well. I am not excited about Lynch and don't see a real turnaround in Buffalo unless it is a re-vitalization of the air game. Some talk of other RB use in short yardage is a bit of a worry too. Andre Johnson is a stud, so long as he has a qb throwing to him. Would prefer seeing a second receiver step forward to take some of the coverage off him. Great ppr receiver though. If Lynch proves worthy of a first round pick, a good start.

Have to earn some money, will continue later.

 
RedZone said:
LHUCKS - is he the fantasy version of Dallas? CJ and Winslow are both great producers who are management nightmares. CJ is angling to be off the team somehow though I am sure he will play and almost certainly in Cincy. Winslow is a player if someone will babysit him off the field. What he could have been if he didn't screw up the first two years. Could have been the next Gonzo. I give this team a high risk, high reward nod but more risk than I would take. Westy, solid.
I love a little analysis...I think we see the risk a bit differently...I think CJ and Winslow are about as safe as they come, Westbrook is the player I'm most concerned about. I definitely go high reward with my picks because I'm in it to win it...no points for second place ladies.
 
So, I come out of stud wr theory with Jacobs and Parker, rbs 23 and 24. I feel fine with this. I see a deep foggy tier of RBs starting in the late top ten that includes both of these backs and maybe a couple more still available. I'm not saying either deserves top 10 consideration as draft choices, just that both should be included in a discussion of top potential.

Jacobs has contract issues, but he was strong last year when healthy. Sure he'll share a little, but I think I have the featured back on a high very good team. Likewise Parker. Not bad, I'll certainly take it.

The Brady Housh team has Graham and ???

The SSmith Moss team has Edge and ???

RB is getting watered down by committees, age, uncertainty, etc. making it pretty comfortable to own TO and Wayne then wait to see who falls. If I'm redrafting in August from a late slot, I wonder if I'll still feel this way and take this route. My primary money redraft has two wrwr champs since 02, and my other has one that fell short in the title game.

Good year for this or too soon to tell?

 
RedZone said:
It is a little uncomfortably critiquing teams when I don't know any of you guys well and have only posted or pm'd to a couple of you.
No need to be uncomfortable. More critique/discussion, the better. Thanks for doing this.
Shadowfax - no weaknesses. Romo is Manning good this year, ADP is money if he stays injury free and Holt is dependable. St Louis is a bit of a shambles and I would have picked one of the other available WRs at this spot but nice start.
Just curious which WR you would have picked. Here are the ones drafted after Holt. Holt - picked. StL was in a bit of shambles last year but hopefully, they can improve this year and stay healthy. Holt's WR rank last 5 yrs: 11, 4, 4, 4, 2. Don't see a dropoff for him this year.

Marshall - personal/injury concerns, only 1 proven year, same bye week as ADP

CJ - I think he'll play but didn't want the risk. Team chemistry issues? Same bye week as ADP.

Welker - like him but too high here for my taste and not over Holt. Great last year but # should decrease and only had better #s than Holt by a 7-80-1 game.

Boldin - injury and QB issues. Already have him on other survivor teams...wanted someone different here.

Holmes - like him and he could take it to the next level this year and break top 10. I don't think it's this year though and once again not over Holt.

Roy Williams - meh...just not a huge fan. Detroit should be less pass happy and Det has solid WRs2-4. And who knows who will be QBing later in the season.

Lee Evans - way too inconsistent for me as WR1. QB issues here too.

 
So, I come out of stud wr theory with Jacobs and Parker, rbs 23 and 24. I feel fine with this. I see a deep foggy tier of RBs starting in the late top ten that includes both of these backs and maybe a couple more still available. I'm not saying either deserves top 10 consideration as draft choices, just that both should be included in a discussion of top potential.

Jacobs has contract issues, but he was strong last year when healthy. Sure he'll share a little, but I think I have the featured back on a high very good team. Likewise Parker. Not bad, I'll certainly take it.

The Brady Housh team has Graham and ???

The SSmith Moss team has Edge and ???

RB is getting watered down by committees, age, uncertainty, etc. making it pretty comfortable to own TO and Wayne then wait to see who falls. If I'm redrafting in August from a late slot, I wonder if I'll still feel this way and take this route. My primary money redraft has two wrwr champs since 02, and my other has one that fell short in the title game.

Good year for this or too soon to tell?
Love your start. Getting Parker and Jacobs with picks 47-48 is as solid as it gets. Nice job.
 
RedZone said:
I went QB-WR this year and it mirrors the strategy that had me at the top of the points total list almost the entire season last year for all four SSL leagues. Granted Welker was on the team from a mid-teen round pick as a major bonus, but I had crappy RBs. Had I (or the Texans or Panthers) been able to count on David Carr for one game (week 10), I may have won the league.Aside from LT, ADP, SJax and Westy, I didn't see a RB that justified losing Brady. NE should be a powerhouse again, and with Stallworth being the only loss, I think Brady was a justifiable first round pick.
With the RBs left, I don't fault anyone for picking Brady (or Moss) in your spot. Knowing that the top of the orders haven't been uber RB heavy in rounds 2-3, I like that you went WR in round 2. TJ should be top 10 again but Cincy seems a mess right now and TJ did seem to cool down towards the end of the year. I really like Graham and I think people are under-estimating him for next year. I actually like him better than McGahee, Lynch, Turner and Maroney. I think things have worked well for those teams that bypassed RB in rounds 1-2.
 
Shadowfax said:
RedZone said:
I went QB-WR this year and it mirrors the strategy that had me at the top of the points total list almost the entire season last year for all four SSL leagues. Granted Welker was on the team from a mid-teen round pick as a major bonus, but I had crappy RBs. Had I (or the Texans or Panthers) been able to count on David Carr for one game (week 10), I may have won the league.Aside from LT, ADP, SJax and Westy, I didn't see a RB that justified losing Brady. NE should be a powerhouse again, and with Stallworth being the only loss, I think Brady was a justifiable first round pick.
With the RBs left, I don't fault anyone for picking Brady (or Moss) in your spot. Knowing that the top of the orders haven't been uber RB heavy in rounds 2-3, I like that you went WR in round 2. TJ should be top 10 again but Cincy seems a mess right now and TJ did seem to cool down towards the end of the year. I really like Graham and I think people are under-estimating him for next year. I actually like him better than McGahee, Lynch, Turner and Maroney. I think things have worked well for those teams that bypassed RB in rounds 1-2.
Glad to see the comments inspire further conversation. TJ did fall off the last couple of games but he has made a couple positive comments relative to the CJ situation that I read as him showing a) class and b) leadership. Rudi will keep the running game strong. Cincy is a mess and that seems to be due to the front office. No, solution focusing just on the players with that. I don't see Caddy coming back so Graham seemed like a strong option. If he does, I still see Graham getting the important carries. Couple of OK options for 2nd RB and depth. Just have to decide on best value at each pick and of course, watch what everyone else needs.
 
Shadowfax said:
So, I come out of stud wr theory with Jacobs and Parker, rbs 23 and 24. I feel fine with this. I see a deep foggy tier of RBs starting in the late top ten that includes both of these backs and maybe a couple more still available. I'm not saying either deserves top 10 consideration as draft choices, just that both should be included in a discussion of top potential.

Jacobs has contract issues, but he was strong last year when healthy. Sure he'll share a little, but I think I have the featured back on a high very good team. Likewise Parker. Not bad, I'll certainly take it.

The Brady Housh team has Graham and ???

The SSmith Moss team has Edge and ???

RB is getting watered down by committees, age, uncertainty, etc. making it pretty comfortable to own TO and Wayne then wait to see who falls. If I'm redrafting in August from a late slot, I wonder if I'll still feel this way and take this route. My primary money redraft has two wrwr champs since 02, and my other has one that fell short in the title game.

Good year for this or too soon to tell?
Love your start. Getting Parker and Jacobs with picks 47-48 is as solid as it gets. Nice job.
Nice for those two positions, especially with the Parker pick. I had hopes he would be forgotten but for fifteen people to get amnesia at once would be a bit of a stretch. I am not as excited about Jacobs but he is the primary back for a team that can move the ball. He didn't really seem to have much a role in the red zone or passing game if I am recalling correctly, but I was never a Giants fan. The opportunity cost, again needs to be determined.
 
Shadowfax said:
RedZone said:
It is a little uncomfortably critiquing teams when I don't know any of you guys well and have only posted or pm'd to a couple of you.
No need to be uncomfortable. More critique/discussion, the better. Thanks for doing this.
Shadowfax - no weaknesses. Romo is Manning good this year, ADP is money if he stays injury free and Holt is dependable. St Louis is a bit of a shambles and I would have picked one of the other available WRs at this spot but nice start.
Just curious which WR you would have picked. Here are the ones drafted after Holt. Holt - picked. StL was in a bit of shambles last year but hopefully, they can improve this year and stay healthy. Holt's WR rank last 5 yrs: 11, 4, 4, 4, 2. Don't see a dropoff for him this year.

Marshall - personal/injury concerns, only 1 proven year, same bye week as ADP

CJ - I think he'll play but didn't want the risk. Team chemistry issues? Same bye week as ADP.

Welker - like him but too high here for my taste and not over Holt. Great last year but # should decrease and only had better #s than Holt by a 7-80-1 game.

Boldin - injury and QB issues. Already have him on other survivor teams...wanted someone different here.

Holmes - like him and he could take it to the next level this year and break top 10. I don't think it's this year though and once again not over Holt.

Roy Williams - meh...just not a huge fan. Detroit should be less pass happy and Det has solid WRs2-4. And who knows who will be QBing later in the season.

Lee Evans - way too inconsistent for me as WR1. QB issues here too.
Well, of the list you have, I would have picked Holmes, then CJ (not for my team but yours as I have TJ Housh), then toss up between Roy and Holt. I live in Columbia, MO and watch most of the Rams games and have attended some of the pre-season practices. Holt was looking very... non-committed during practices and didn't have the "game" last year that he had in previous years. Whether it was his knees of the general breakdown of the Rams O, I can't say. Bennett has little to offer as well, runs very soft routes and rounds his corners. I like Bowe out of KC as well. I see that team doing more airtime as well, given the revamping of the line. It was a dominant O line for years but Father Time caught up. Could be a big year for Gonzo if he doesn't get held in to block again. I have had Holt for years in a keeper league and will let him go to keep Wayne, SJax and M Turner. May be kool aid for Turner over Holt, but RBs are a premium in that league (non-ppr).

 
Shadowfax said:
So, I come out of stud wr theory with Jacobs and Parker, rbs 23 and 24. I feel fine with this. I see a deep foggy tier of RBs starting in the late top ten that includes both of these backs and maybe a couple more still available. I'm not saying either deserves top 10 consideration as draft choices, just that both should be included in a discussion of top potential.

Jacobs has contract issues, but he was strong last year when healthy. Sure he'll share a little, but I think I have the featured back on a high very good team. Likewise Parker. Not bad, I'll certainly take it.

The Brady Housh team has Graham and ???

The SSmith Moss team has Edge and ???

RB is getting watered down by committees, age, uncertainty, etc. making it pretty comfortable to own TO and Wayne then wait to see who falls. If I'm redrafting in August from a late slot, I wonder if I'll still feel this way and take this route. My primary money redraft has two wrwr champs since 02, and my other has one that fell short in the title game.

Good year for this or too soon to tell?
Love your start. Getting Parker and Jacobs with picks 47-48 is as solid as it gets. Nice job.
Nice for those two positions, especially with the Parker pick. I had hopes he would be forgotten but for fifteen people to get amnesia at once would be a bit of a stretch. I am not as excited about Jacobs but he is the primary back for a team that can move the ball. He didn't really seem to have much a role in the red zone or passing game if I am recalling correctly, but I was never a Giants fan. The opportunity cost, again needs to be determined.
FWIW, I had Edge and FWP targetted for my 3.9 pick. I have them as nearly equal, but Edge as a safer pick between the two. Parker has a lower floor and an higher ceiling than Edge does this year, IMO.
 
Chaos Commish said:
PDSL was 20 rounds. I believe I read somewhere around here today that the SSLs are 18 rounds. Is this correct?
Yup. WSL and PDSL are 20 rounds due to unknowns about the NFL draft. SSL and MBSL are 18 rounds.
 
Gore

Maroney

Braylon

CJII

Shockey

So far so good. Especially if that simmering Shockey to the Saints thing finally goes to a boil.

 
Just noticed that Jeff's first two picks share a bye (obviously both being Saints) as well as Duckboy's. Thoughts on this stragegy? Worries? Unsubstantiated worries? Do you take the player you like best regardless of bye weeks early in the draft and work around it? Or is it better to try and spread the bye weeks throughout the draft?Would you tend to ignore the bye weeks if they are early in the season, like Week 4? Would you feel the same way if they shared a Week 10 bye? Week 4 seems like a more viable strategy due to it's early in the season and there are 6 teams on bye. Do you now feel you have to work around that bye week and perhaps shy away from players that share that bye week?
For the first couple of rounds, and especially if there is a tier dropoff imo, I don't pay attention to bye weeks. Would have been more important to me if the bye weeks were at the same position (RB or WR) since that means I need to make up for it more greatly within one spot. Earlier byes or weeks with many byes (4 and 8 this year) are more ideal for group since more teams will have issues.I will need to work around the bye week now, but will not decline talent just to avoid the issue. Had a similar issue in PDSL last year when my top 4 picks, all on different teams, ended up with the same bye week. Went out before the bye came up anyway. So more likely to emphasize talent but can't ignore the coverage either.
I think I may put too much emphasis on bye weeks at times. ETA: it looks like several teams have major players on same bye so maybe I'm too conservative here. Obviously I won't pass on big talent dropoffs, but I've had trouble in the past with bye weeks, especially the big bye weeks. I've double up or two on those big bye weeks and it seems like all the players I want later in the draft share that bye week...due to more teams/players sharing that bye. Doubling up on the smaller bye weeks allows more player flexibility later in the draft but with smaller bye weeks...but theres an inherent risk with having a couple players off on small bye weeks. Then again...you may not even make it to the bye...or get immunity. I think the accident is playing with my mind. :D
 
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Well, that sucks. I misread Shockey's bye week - which matches up with two of my other first five picks. I'd like to make it through one of these without making an out and out bonehead pick sometime.

 
Well, that sucks. I misread Shockey's bye week - which matches up with two of my other first five picks. I'd like to make it through one of these without making an out and out bonehead pick sometime.
Were you looking at the bye week for NO or NYG?
 
Ruffrodys05

1.12 (12): Larry Johnson, KC, RB10 (6) Still a stud, I believe.

2.05 (21): Ronnie Brown, Mia, RB15 (4) The trading of Booker speaks volumes about his health.

3.12 (44): Roy Williams, Det, WR18 (4) Not a huge fan, but he is a premier WR. (might be traded)

4.05 (53): Greg Jennings, GB, WR21 (8) I am seeing him as one of Rogers relief valves.

5.12 (76): Kevin Curtis, Phi, WR29 (7) You never know.

I am very happy with the way my draft has unfolded up to this point. I did not get a single player I was targetting in any round, but I think I made good picks with what eventually was available at my spot. I was actually looking forward to drafting out of the 14 slot, but those bootee's gave me a bump up to 12. And again, congrats to rzrback77 for nabbing Gates one pick before me. Way to be alert!

 
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So far for me:

Ben Roeth

Edge

Moss, Ssmith, Driver

Was hoping (not likely though) that Jonathan Stewart or J Jones would fall to me where I took Driver, but I'll take 3rd WR who has stud potential. At this point I should be able to piecemeal a few RBBC guys together to get me through. Pretty happy with this so far.

 
there is no way johnathan stewart would have fallen past me I almost pulled the trigger on him in the 4th
Just a little curious RN, why not pull the trigger on Stewart????? Too Skerred????? D. Williams got you spooked?????
 
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rzrback:

Nice pick on Coles. He was having a good year before getting injured. I think he puts up slightly less #s than Cotchery and you got him 2 rounds later.

I knew I was going with Heap for the 4th/5th round and I had inked Ward into my list for my other pick. Then the natives stole Ward and I had Coles typed in until I noticed Coles had the same bye as Holt. Crap. Then I went back and forth between Chambers and Driver....had Chambers typed in and then got cold feet and went in a completely different direction with Stewart. From the looks of things, it was a good call as he wasn't making it back around 30 picks later.

Been doing these drafts for years and certain rounds just have me stumped on which direction to go. I hardly ever seem to get a middle draft slot so I'm always near the ends. You'd think I'd have it figured out by now.

 
4.6 QB Carson Palmer Bengals

1.11 RB M Lynch Bills

2.6 WR Andre Johnson Texans

5.11 WR Lav Coles J-E-T-S

3.11 TE A Gates

Wishing that I had twi RBs already cause the pickins are slim now, but like Carson Palmer this year. The Bengals defense just can't seem to get it together and I see them trailing in a lot of games. Lynch should be featured RB and in the RBBC League, those are hard to come by. I really like my two WRs as they are both high target guys. Anotnio Gates was a risk I was willing to take. He has been at the top of the TE chain for several years. He slid partially due to injury, but maybe also because of Chambers, but I like him still and in this format a featured TE is king.

Definitely need some RB assistance and depth overall, but I like the corp of this squad.

 
1.08 Redzone - Tom Brady, NE, QB1 4

3.08 Redzone - Earnest Graham, TB, RB19 10

2.09 Redzone - T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Cin, WR8 8

5.08 Redzone - Jerry Porter, Jac, WR26 7

4.09 Redzone - Chris Cooley, Was, TE5 10

OK, trying to look objectively at my team and draft strategy thus far. Granted, the spygate things could be disruptive if a0 they accounted for a lot of the NE success and b) Bellichick is off the field or organization drops him. I don't see either happening because I think this is going to open a Pandora's box. Who can't pay someone to watch the opposing team's signals? This is more widespread than is being let on. The shame is some kid lost a chance of being the first round pick by the top team.

Brady will, if my projections are correct, outscore all qbs and by a significant margin with the exception of Romo and P Manning who could be close. Romo could even top his production if many of Barber's scores are screens, dump offs. Emergence of Mauroney post season is somewhat worrisome. I think the value and margin by position makes Brady an easy first round decision and the foundation for the team.

RB is obviously a weakness. Graham does not have the lock on the position, as the status of Caddy is uncertain. Don't see him coming back, reminds me of the AZ running back, can't even remember his name now. I think he changed it last year anyhow. I was really targeting Julius Jones, as I see him as a 250 - 300 carry back and Duckett is no competition to anyone. Well, he is better than me but I haven't played since college twenty years ago. I will have to hope for a feature back on a weak team or a strong RBBC back. With the injuries seen last year, there could be a diamond in the rough out there. Trades are always a possiblity too. :Crossfingers:

WR - TJ is going to continue to be the fantasy play at Cincy. I see CJ playing and drawing the top cover, so TJ should do well. This is a contract year for him(?) so he has lots of motivation. Porter showed he can play well, especially in the red zone, and he is not getting $30 million to be a spot player. Jax O line, running game and qb all are great ingredients for him to succeed if he develops chemistry with Garrard (sp?). I think these two are solid.

TE - Cooley is the #2 receiver at Was and is a player. The qb situation there is a little iffy and if Portis comes back strong, the running game could dominate. I thought about Clark instead, especially given Harrison's status, but decided that I liked Cooley better. I may lose a few points not taking Clark here.

I don't have the top or even second best team, but from the eight spot in a sixteen teamer, not bad so far. Last year, my RB were weak, but I was really helped by Welker and Witten who both have been taken. This will be a leaner year but I see a competitive team.

 
There really isn't a weak team, though there is one that I don't really agree with most or any of the picks. I think I like Shadowfax's the best, especially if St Louis can get Holt back up to top-ten numbers.

Fullback Fro has three people I was targeting and LHucks has chosen well (much as it pains to admit) and... whichever team had the 4.04 pick are strong.

This league is going to be competitive

 
So far for me:Ben RoethEdgeMoss, Ssmith, DriverWas hoping (not likely though) that Jonathan Stewart or J Jones would fall to me where I took Driver, but I'll take 3rd WR who has stud potential. At this point I should be able to piecemeal a few RBBC guys together to get me through. Pretty happy with this so far.
ACP, if you can get something going for your #2 RB by committee, I think your team is a strong contender. I like the Driver pick although I'm unsure about Edge, who I have in WSL.
 

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