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Stallworth Detained in traffic fatality (1 Viewer)

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Browns WR Donte' Stallworth has reportedly been detained in Miami after an automobile accident that killed a pedestrian.

According to ProFootballTalk.com, Miami police are looking into the matter to determine whether Stallworth was driving under the influence. He's expected to be prosecuted regardless, but the DUI charge would come with much more serious consequences. This news comes just two days after former University of Tennessee teammate Albert Haynesworth was indicted for an auto accident that seriously injured the other driver. Rotoworld

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He didn't have a lot of fantasy value, but if he is put away/suspended someone's value will go up some. Who that is, I have no idea.

I'm talking dynasty leagues, deep leagues, large leagues, leagues with lots of roster spots before anyone says there is noone who will have any value.

 
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Accident happened at 7:17 am in the morning and he is fully cooperating with police. I seriously doubt he was drinking. I think its a little bit early to jump to conclusions.

That being said, its ironic that he earned a $4.75m bonus by staying on the roster thru yesterday.

 
Accident happened at 7:17 am in the morning and he is fully cooperating with police. I seriously doubt he was drinking. I think its a little bit early to jump to conclusions.That being said, its ironic that he earned a $4.75m bonus by staying on the roster thru yesterday.
Also too early to assume he wasn't 'under the influence' @ 7:17 am.I think it's more common than you think...
 
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So...

Let me be the first to pose this question.

"IF" he was indeed intoxicated when he hit and killed this person, should and/or will he serve a longer prison term than one Michael Dwayne Vick?

:popcorn:

 
Accident happened at 7:17 am in the morning and he is fully cooperating with police. I seriously doubt he was drinking. I think its a little bit early to jump to conclusions.That being said, its ironic that he earned a $4.75m bonus by staying on the roster thru yesterday.
Also to early to assume he wasn't 'under the influence' @ 7:17 am.I think it's more common than you think...
Yep, if he was blitzed at 3:00 am (lets say .15 BAC), four hours later his BAC is teetering on leagl/illegal. Any more at 3:00 am or if he was drinking later and he's over the limit.
 
Leonard Little got 90 days in jail, 4 years probation, 1000 hours community service, and an 8 game suspention. His BAC was .19

That was in Missouri in 1999 and he plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter. Don't know anything about what Florida does in these cases. Hopefully Stallworth wasn't intoxicated.

 
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RIP innocent pedestrian.

With Joe J. just cut, Stallworth probably in the hole and/or suspended, I'm thinking the Browns just became a dark horse in the Torry Holt sweepstakes.

Hopefully, Dante was sober and driving to work out, and this is only a terrible accident. Not tanked and heading home from a booty call.

 
RIP innocent pedestrian.With Joe J. just cut, Stallworth probably in the hole and/or suspended, I'm thinking the Browns just became a dark horse in the Torry Holt sweepstakes.Hopefully, Dante was sober and driving to work out, and this is only a terrible accident. Not tanked and heading home from a booty call.
Might give some snaps to Paul Hubbard, who was relatively well regarded coming out of Wisconsin.
 
Leonard Little got 90 days in jail, 4 years probation, 1000 hours community service, and an 8 game suspention. His BAC was .19That was in Missouri in 1999 and he plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter. Don't know anything about what Florida does in these cases. Hopefully Stallworth wasn't intoxicated.
That is an extraordinary light sentence. In PA if there is an accident related death and you are under the influence it is a minimum 4 years I believe. Even if no one is injured and you get your 2nd DUI with a BAC over .16 the minimum sentence is 90 days jail/work release or 180 days house arrest.
 
Accident happened at 7:17 am in the morning and he is fully cooperating with police. I seriously doubt he was drinking. I think its a little bit early to jump to conclusions.That being said, its ironic that he earned a $4.75m bonus by staying on the roster thru yesterday.
It's MIAMI. Club Space doesn't even open until 8:00 am.
 
So...

Let me be the first to pose this question.

"IF" he was indeed intoxicated when he hit and killed this person, should and/or will he serve a longer prison term than one Michael Dwayne Vick?

:thumbup:
Yes, and he will.
Not Necessarily...
Off-field issues

[edit] Manslaughter Conviction

After attending a drunken birthday party in 1998, Little crashed into and killed another motorist, Susan Gutweiler in St. Louis, MO. When tested, his blood alcohol level measured 0.19 percent, a level that exceeds the statutory level of intoxication of 0.08 in the state of Missouri.[5] Little received 90 days in jail, four years probation and 1000 hours of community service.

[edit] Second arrest

Six years later, in 2004, Little was again arrested for drunk driving and speeding.[5] The probable cause statement filed by police said Little had bloodshot and watery eyes, smelled of alcohol and failed three sobriety tests. [6] Because of Little's 1999 guilty plea to involuntary manslaughter in his drunken-driving crash case, prosecutors charged him as a persistent offender. This made it a felony case.[6] Little was acquitted of driving while intoxicated, but was convicted only of the misdemeanor speeding charge.
Federal sentencing

On December 10, Vick was sentenced to 23 months in federal prison. Judge Hudson said he was "convinced that it was not a momentary lack of judgment" on Vick's part, and that Vick was a "full partner" in the dog fighting ring.[55] Hudson also noted that, despite Vick's claims that he accepted responsibility for his actions, his failure to cooperate fully with Federal officials coupled with a failed drug test and a failed polygraph showed that Vick had not accepted full responsibility for "promoting, funding and facilitating this cruel and inhumane sporting activity".[49]

[edit] State criminal prosecution

Long anticipated separate Virginia charges against all four men were placed following indictments by the Surry County grand jury when it met on September 25, 2007. The principal evidence considered was the sworn statements of the defendants during their plea agreement process before the federal court, although the indictments are for different charges. Vick was charged with two class 6 felonies in Virginia, which carry a maximum penalty of five years imprisonment for conviction on each charge.[56]

After several delays, Vick's trial in Surry County Circuit Court was postponed in June, 2008 until after his eventual release from federal custody. Virginia's local prosecutor, Gerald Poindexter, cited the high costs and transportation logistics of proceeding while he was still in federal prisons in Kansas and Florida. With good behavior Vick, could be out [of federal custody] on July 20, 2009, Poindexter said. [57] On October 14, 2008, Vick's original attorney, Lawrence Woodward filed a motion to enter a plea via two-way electronic video with the Surry County Courts.[58] The Norfolk Virginia-Pilot newspaper reported that Vick planned to plead guilty to state charges in an effort to get an early release from federal prison and enter a halfway house. [59]

[edit] State trial and sentencing

In late November, 2008 Vick was transported to Virginia to face the state charges. [8] On November 25, he appeared before the Surry County Circuit Court at a session held in neighboring Sussex County (because the Surry court building was undergoing renovation). He submitted a guilty plea to a single Virginia felony charge for dog fighting, receiving a 3 year prison sentence and $2500 fine. In return for the plea agreement, additional state charges were dropped. [3] [5]
 
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So...Let me be the first to pose this question. "IF" he was indeed intoxicated when he hit and killed this person, should and/or will he serve a longer prison term than one Michael Dwayne Vick? :thumbup:
Yeah, particularly if he picked the guy up by the collar and repeatedly smashed him into the wall.
 
Come on now, we all know there a different standards if you've got power/play in the NFL/can afford the best lawyers money can buy. If he was drunk, the Browns should cut him and no other NFL team should ever sign him, but if Leonard freaking Little is still playing in the NFL, we all know it's a farce.

 
It could have just been a person trying to cross a busy street and Stallworth happened to be the one to hit them. He hasn't been charged with anything. Yet.

 
A Friday night/Saturday morning at 7:17? Highly unlikely he was on his way to the gym. I am guessing liquor, and/or drugs were involved. My guess is he was hangng out with Matt Jones, why else would he be up that late?

That being said, hopefully it was just a unfortunate accident.

 
A Friday night/Saturday morning at 7:17? Highly unlikely he was on his way to the gym. I am guessing liquor, and/or drugs were involved. My guess is he was hangng out with Matt Jones, why else would he be up that late?

That being said, hopefully it was just a unfortunate accident.
That's the exact hour I head for the gym on Saturdays. Why would that be so weird for an athlete? Stallworth has been in the league since 2002 and I don't recall him ever being in trouble for alcohol or other substances. Let's hold off on these sorts of assumptions for a bit.
 
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RIP innocent pedestrian.With Joe J. just cut, Stallworth probably in the hole and/or suspended, I'm thinking the Browns just became a dark horse in the Torry Holt sweepstakes.Hopefully, Dante was sober and driving to work out, and this is only a terrible accident. Not tanked and heading home from a booty call.
Might give some snaps to Paul Hubbard, who was relatively well regarded coming out of Wisconsin.
Not that Stallworth has done a darn thing w/ the Browns or anyone really....but maybe this makes Crabtree a bigger possibility than it previously was. They've said Cribbs' role is going to increase on offense, but I'm not sure they meant starting WR. JJ gone, and now possibly DS, there is no WR depth in Cleveland.
 
Oh, the irony.

If Stallworth would have killed a NFL player who was crossing the street, everybody would be upset b/c the conversation has partially been diverted towards "which Browns player gets an upgrade if Stallworth has legal issues". In this case, however, it was only a "normal" person who was killed.

 
Oh, the irony. If Stallworth would have killed a NFL player who was crossing the street, everybody would be upset b/c the conversation has partially been diverted towards "which Browns player gets an upgrade if Stallworth has legal issues". In this case, however, it was only a "normal" person who was killed.
This is a fantasy football website and about 155,000 people die every day, a lot of them in automobile accidents.
 
Oh, the irony. If Stallworth would have killed a NFL player who was crossing the street, everybody would be upset b/c the conversation has partially been diverted towards "which Browns player gets an upgrade if Stallworth has legal issues". In this case, however, it was only a "normal" person who was killed.
This is a fantasy football website and about 155,000 people die every day, a lot of them in automobile accidents.
Agreed. You and I are on the same page. In the thread discussing the missing NFL players who were boating, a few people were blasted when positional upgrades/downgrades were mentioned. I simply wondered if the same would have held true if Stallworth killed an NFL player while driving...
 
A Friday night/Saturday morning at 7:17? Highly unlikely he was on his way to the gym. I am guessing liquor, and/or drugs were involved. My guess is he was hangng out with Matt Jones, why else would he be up that late?

That being said, hopefully it was just a unfortunate accident.
That's the exact hour I head for the gym on Saturdays. Why would that be so weird for an athlete? Stallworth has been in the league since 2002 and I don't recall him ever being in trouble for alcohol or other substances. Let's hold off on these sorts of assumptions for a bit.
If i were a betting man, i would bet on booze being involved. Sure, he could have been going to the gym, but i think the odds are against it.
 
Knowing very little of law, I would have to think Stallworth contacted his attorney after the accident. Assuming Stallworth contacted his attorney, I would think Stallworth would not freely submit a blood sample w/o some stall tactics from his attorney...if Stallworth were drinking, drugging, whatever.

 
Knowing very little of law, I would have to think Stallworth contacted his attorney after the accident. Assuming Stallworth contacted his attorney, I would think Stallworth would not freely submit a blood sample w/o some stall tactics from his attorney...if Stallworth were drinking, drugging, whatever.
I don't know that he has a choice if he's involved in a fatal accident.
 
Knowing very little of law, I would have to think Stallworth contacted his attorney after the accident. Assuming Stallworth contacted his attorney, I would think Stallworth would not freely submit a blood sample w/o some stall tactics from his attorney...if Stallworth were drinking, drugging, whatever.
In a lot of states you do NOT have the right to speak to an attorney in a DUI case. The government gets around it by arguing that, while waiting for an attorney, too much time could lapse and the results of the blood/breath tests would spoil. Legally, they get around constitutional requirements (You have the right to an attorney, etc...) by saying that you implicitly waive the right to an attorney in a DUI case when you agree to drive on the government's roads.Crazy, huh?But, I think that you can try to stall on your own. Or maybe flat out refuse the tests? But I think there are usually harsh consequences for that as well...
 
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Knowing very little of law, I would have to think Stallworth contacted his attorney after the accident. Assuming Stallworth contacted his attorney, I would think Stallworth would not freely submit a blood sample w/o some stall tactics from his attorney...if Stallworth were drinking, drugging, whatever.
In a lot of states you do NOT have the right to speak to an attorney in a DUI case. The government gets around it by arguing that, while waiting for an attorney, too much time could lapse and the results of the blood/breath tests would spoil. Legally, they get around constitutional requirements (You have the right to an attorney, etc...) by saying that you implicitly waive the right to an attorney in a DUI case when you agree to drive on the government's roads.Crazy, huh?But, I think that you can try to stall on your own. Or maybe flat out refuse the tests? But I think there are usually harsh consequences for that as well...
But...uhhh, I guess this is a Stallworth thread. So I'm looking at Cribbs next year to be a great late round/sleeper pickup.
 
Knowing very little of law, I would have to think Stallworth contacted his attorney after the accident. Assuming Stallworth contacted his attorney, I would think Stallworth would not freely submit a blood sample w/o some stall tactics from his attorney...if Stallworth were drinking, drugging, whatever.
In a lot of states you do NOT have the right to speak to an attorney in a DUI case. The government gets around it by arguing that, while waiting for an attorney, too much time could lapse and the results of the blood/breath tests would spoil. Legally, they get around constitutional requirements (You have the right to an attorney, etc...) by saying that you implicitly waive the right to an attorney in a DUI case when you agree to drive on the government's roads.Crazy, huh?But, I think that you can try to stall on your own. Or maybe flat out refuse the tests? But I think there are usually harsh consequences for that as well...
But...uhhh, I guess this is a Stallworth thread. So I'm looking at Cribbs next year to be a great late round/sleeper pickup.
I hope you're wrong. Filling one hole by creating another would be a dumb idea.
 
PROSECUTORS POISED TO CHARGE STALLWORTH WITH DUI

Posted by Mike Florio on March 14, 2009, 6:47 p.m. EDT

As authorities in South Florida wait for the results of a blood draw performed on Browns receiver Donte’ Stallworth, a source with knowledge of the investigation tells us that prosecutors are preparing an indictment for DUI manslaughter, under the assumption that the results will show that Stallworth’s blood alcohol content exceeded the legal limit of 0.08 percent when he collided with a pedestrian, who later died.

Per the source, Stallworth admitted to drinking at least four Patrons and two Margaritas. A separate source called that information “basically right,” but added that Stallworth contends he had his last drink at midnight. The incident occurred after 7:00 a.m. local time.

We’re also told that Stallworth claimed in his statement to police that he saw the man crossing the street from a distance, and flashed the high beams and honked the horn of the Bentley he was driving. Apparently, there’s an issue as to whether Stallworth could have taken evasive action because of a barrier along the median.

We’re told that Stallworth is badly shaken by the news that the pedestrian had died.

And, frankly, he should be. Apart from the fact that he was involved in an accident that claimed a man’s life, Stallworth could be facing serious criminal liability, if the pending test reveals an impermissibly high concentration of alcohol in his blood.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/14/...worth-with-dui/

 
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Doesn't look good for Mr. Stallworth, but no one should feel bad for him. We will see what money/power can buy in this country...

 
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PROSECUTORS POISED TO CHARGE STALLWORTH WITH DUI

We’re also told that Stallworth claimed in his statement to police that he saw the man crossing the street from a distance, and flashed the high beams and honked the horn of the Bentley he was driving. Apparently, there’s an issue as to whether Stallworth could have taken evasive action because of a barrier along the median.
I'm curious if the guy was hit in a croswalk.
 
Knowing very little of law, I would have to think Stallworth contacted his attorney after the accident. Assuming Stallworth contacted his attorney, I would think Stallworth would not freely submit a blood sample w/o some stall tactics from his attorney...if Stallworth were drinking, drugging, whatever.
In a lot of states you do NOT have the right to speak to an attorney in a DUI case. The government gets around it by arguing that, while waiting for an attorney, too much time could lapse and the results of the blood/breath tests would spoil. Legally, they get around constitutional requirements (You have the right to an attorney, etc...) by saying that you implicitly waive the right to an attorney in a DUI case when you agree to drive on the government's roads.Crazy, huh?But, I think that you can try to stall on your own. Or maybe flat out refuse the tests? But I think there are usually harsh consequences for that as well...
I'm sure this varies by the state, but in Texas, the cops can get a 'probable cause' warrant to draw blood in about eleven seconds with a situation like that. You can refuse to take sobriety tests all day long, but they can apparently force the blood draw.
 
Knowing very little of law, I would have to think Stallworth contacted his attorney after the accident. Assuming Stallworth contacted his attorney, I would think Stallworth would not freely submit a blood sample w/o some stall tactics from his attorney...if Stallworth were drinking, drugging, whatever.
In a lot of states you do NOT have the right to speak to an attorney in a DUI case. The government gets around it by arguing that, while waiting for an attorney, too much time could lapse and the results of the blood/breath tests would spoil. Legally, they get around constitutional requirements (You have the right to an attorney, etc...) by saying that you implicitly waive the right to an attorney in a DUI case when you agree to drive on the government's roads.Crazy, huh?But, I think that you can try to stall on your own. Or maybe flat out refuse the tests? But I think there are usually harsh consequences for that as well...
I'm sure this varies by the state, but in Texas, the cops can get a 'probable cause' warrant to draw blood in about eleven seconds with a situation like that. You can refuse to take sobriety tests all day long, but they can apparently force the blood draw.
I heard earlier on NPR that if there is a fatality, then there is a mandatory blood test per Florida law.
 
In a lot of states you do NOT have the right to speak to an attorney in a DUI case. The government gets around it by arguing that, while waiting for an attorney, too much time could lapse and the results of the blood/breath tests would spoil. Legally, they get around constitutional requirements (You have the right to an attorney, etc...) by saying that you implicitly waive the right to an attorney in a DUI case when you agree to drive on the government's roads.Crazy, huh?But, I think that you can try to stall on your own. Or maybe flat out refuse the tests? But I think there are usually harsh consequences for that as well...
I'm sure this varies by the state, but in Texas, the cops can get a 'probable cause' warrant to draw blood in about eleven seconds with a situation like that. You can refuse to take sobriety tests all day long, but they can apparently force the blood draw.
I heard earlier on NPR that if there is a fatality, then there is a mandatory blood test per Florida law.
Thanks for the info. Also, I'm not sure how the government gets around the Sixth Amendment (the Supreme Court apparently decided in 1966 that forced blood draws didn't violate the Fourth), but I'm virtually certain that it doesn't involve waiving the right when you agree to drive on the government's roads. My guess is that the Sixth guarantees counsel at trial and the government argues that you're not on trial at the point of the draw.
 
I heard earlier on NPR that if there is a fatality, then there is a mandatory blood test per Florida law.
That makes sense. When I lived down there twice drivers slammed into people at busstops, one took out 7 people and several died.They take drunk driving seriously there.
 
Carver said:
So...Let me be the first to pose this question. "IF" he was indeed intoxicated when he hit and killed this person, should and/or will he serve a longer prison term than one Michael Dwayne Vick? :popcorn:
Leonard Little should be the measuring stick here.
 
Carver said:
So...Let me be the first to pose this question. "IF" he was indeed intoxicated when he hit and killed this person, should and/or will he serve a longer prison term than one Michael Dwayne Vick? :confused:
Leonard Little should be the measuring stick here.
The NFL should be ashamed of themselves in regards to Little which is why they will distance themselves from that decision and will not even take into affect what happened there. Stallworth will not get off as easily as Little if he is found guilty of manslaughter.
 

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