STAR WARS: EP 7 ***SPOILER ZONE*** - Go here if you've seen it (2 Viewers)

[Andy Dufresne]

This is why real fans still watch the originals on their Laserdisc players and guys like Andy get confused with all the new added crap.

Calm down, superstar. If you were as in tune as you're implying you'd know that real fans watch the originals on the 2006 DVDs that are on the supplemental discs, albeit only in non-anamorphic widescreen.

Why would you watch a lesser version on dvd than on your widescreen laserdiscs?

Gotcha again. The DVD versions are lifted right from the laserdisc.

 

[mcintyre1]

I wasn't a fan of the tentacle monsters. They could've made better monsters there.

Lucky for us they ate everyone except Finn.

Yeah, hard to believe it wouldn't just immediately devour Finn when that was what it did to any of the other characters, but, you know, plot armor.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

This is why real fans still watch the originals on their Laserdisc players and guys like Andy get confused with all the new added crap.

Calm down, superstar. If you were as in tune as you're implying you'd know that real fans watch the originals on the 2006 DVDs that are on the supplemental discs, albeit only in non-anamorphic widescreen.

Why would you watch a lesser version on dvd than on your widescreen laserdiscs?

Gotcha again. The DVD versions are lifted right from the laserdisc.

You really need to break out your laserdiscs and look at the difference.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This is why real fans still watch the originals on their Laserdisc players and guys like Andy get confused with all the new added crap.

Calm down, superstar. If you were as in tune as you're implying you'd know that real fans watch the originals on the 2006 DVDs that are on the supplemental discs, albeit only in non-anamorphic widescreen.

Why would you watch a lesser version on dvd than on your widescreen laserdiscs?

Gotcha again. The DVD versions are lifted right from the laserdisc.

You really need to break out your laserdiscs and look at the difference.

Which laserdisc version - CAV or CLV?Edit: No. It wouldn't matter.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

This is why real fans still watch the originals on their Laserdisc players and guys like Andy get confused with all the new added crap.

Calm down, superstar. If you were as in tune as you're implying you'd know that real fans watch the originals on the 2006 DVDs that are on the supplemental discs, albeit only in non-anamorphic widescreen.

Why would you watch a lesser version on dvd than on your widescreen laserdiscs?

Gotcha again. The DVD versions are lifted right from the laserdisc.

You really need to break out your laserdiscs and look at the difference.

Which laserdisc version - CAV or CLV?

the last special editions that were released. c'mon dude. lots of difference. do some more google research

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This is why real fans still watch the originals on their Laserdisc players and guys like Andy get confused with all the new added crap.

Calm down, superstar. If you were as in tune as you're implying you'd know that real fans watch the originals on the 2006 DVDs that are on the supplemental discs, albeit only in non-anamorphic widescreen.

Why would you watch a lesser version on dvd than on your widescreen laserdiscs?

Gotcha again. The DVD versions are lifted right from the laserdisc.

You really need to break out your laserdiscs and look at the difference.

Which laserdisc version - CAV or CLV?

the last special editions that were released. c'mon dude. lots of difference. do some more google research

(What's sad is I DIDN'T need Google for that stuff.)

 

[Capella]

Going again Friday.



My wife may never let me touch her again.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

What's the opinion on the 3d conversion?

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Are we all supposed to be upset that Andy didn't like the movie? Sorry I started on this thread recently and I"m not up to speed.

I have to imagine that most people actually don't give a ####. Way to many people get offended by a strangers opinion about a piece of fiction that the offended person had no part in making.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

This is why real fans still watch the originals on their Laserdisc players and guys like Andy get confused with all the new added crap.

Calm down, superstar. If you were as in tune as you're implying you'd know that real fans watch the originals on the 2006 DVDs that are on the supplemental discs, albeit only in non-anamorphic widescreen.

Why would you watch a lesser version on dvd than on your widescreen laserdiscs?

Gotcha again. The DVD versions are lifted right from the laserdisc.

You really need to break out your laserdiscs and look at the difference.

Which laserdisc version - CAV or CLV?

the last special editions that were released. c'mon dude. lots of difference. do some more google research

(What's sad is I DIDN'T need Google for that stuff.)

Then break them out and watch and listen to them, lots of differences, the dvd's are of lesser quality.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Are we all supposed to be upset that Andy didn't like the movie? Sorry I started on this thread recently and I"m not up to speed.

Not just Andy. Anyone who doesn't love it.

I think its more about fans of the originals not liking it because of plot holes etc when the originals had numerous plot holes themselves. Failure to judge the first 3 with same that you are judging the new one is not entirely fair.

I wasn't thrilled that Rey was able to use the force as well as she did with little training( that we know of, I believe in the mind erase theory) but I also dont fault New Hope/Empire/Jedi that Luke trained with Yoda for maybe 2-3 days or a few minutes depending on your opinion and became a Jedi

 

[ScottNorwood]

Are we all supposed to be upset that Andy didn't like the movie? Sorry I started on this thread recently and I"m not up to speed.

Not just Andy. Anyone who doesn't love it.

I think its more about fans of the originals not liking it because of plot holes etc when the originals had numerous plot holes themselves. Failure to judge the first 3 with same that you are judging the new one is not entirely fair.

I wasn't thrilled that Rey was able to use the force as well as she did with little training( that we know of, I believe in the mind erase theory) but I also dont fault New Hope/Empire/Jedi that Luke trained with Yoda for maybe 2-3 days or a few minutes depending on your opinion and became a Jedi

Some of us were 6-7 years old when we saw the first 3 and in our 30s/40s when we saw the new one. Not exactly the same lens.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Are we all supposed to be upset that Andy didn't like the movie? Sorry I started on this thread recently and I"m not up to speed.

Not just Andy. Anyone who doesn't love it.

I think its more about fans of the originals not liking it because of plot holes etc when the originals had numerous plot holes themselves. Failure to judge the first 3 with same that you are judging the new one is not entirely fair.

I wasn't thrilled that Rey was able to use the force as well as she did with little training( that we know of, I believe in the mind erase theory) but I also dont fault New Hope/Empire/Jedi that Luke trained with Yoda for maybe 2-3 days or a few minutes depending on your opinion and became a Jedi

Some of us were 6-7 years old when we saw the first 3 and in our 30s/40s when we saw the new one. Not exactly the same lens.

I apologize, I assumed most people have seen them quite a few times since the first time they saw them.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

There's a difference between plot holes and stuff that just doesn't work.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

There's a difference between plot holes and stuff that just doesn't work.

And you do not think there was anything in the first three that "just didn't work"?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

There's a difference between plot holes and stuff that just doesn't work.

And you do not think there was anything in the first three that "just didn't work"?

Not much in the first two. A few in Jedi. Just about everything in the prequels.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

There's a difference between plot holes and stuff that just doesn't work.

And you do not think there was anything in the first three that "just didn't work"?

Not much in the first two. A few in Jedi. Just about everything in the prequels.

Something as simple as the Rebels paying off Han's debt to Jabba?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

There's a difference between plot holes and stuff that just doesn't work.

And you do not think there was anything in the first three that "just didn't work"?

Not much in the first two. A few in Jedi. Just about everything in the prequels.

Something as simple as the Rebels paying off Han's debt to Jabba?

Sure.This is getting less fun the more I realize you're genuinely being a #### about this.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

There's a difference between plot holes and stuff that just doesn't work.

And you do not think there was anything in the first three that "just didn't work"?

Not much in the first two. A few in Jedi. Just about everything in the prequels.

Something as simple as the Rebels paying off Han's debt to Jabba?

Sure.This is getting less fun the more I realize you're genuinely being a #### about this.

I am not trying to be a jerk. But you act as if there aren't some very questionable "things that don't work" in the originals. Thats all.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I am not trying to be a jerk. But you act as if there aren't some very questionable "things that don't work" in the originals. Thats all.

There aren't many...To me.And you're acting like all shortcomings are the same.

 

[Hang 10]

There's a difference between plot holes and stuff that just doesn't work.

And you do not think there was anything in the first three that "just didn't work"?

Not much in the first two. A few in Jedi. Just about everything in the prequels.

Something as simple as the Rebels paying off Han's debt to Jabba?

Maybe the rebels don't have a ton of disposable cash to pay off smugglers debts. Intergalactic war ain't cheap y'know.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I am not trying to be a jerk. But you act as if there aren't some very questionable "things that don't work" in the originals. Thats all.

There aren't many...To me.And you're acting like all shortcomings are the same.

And how many jails post guards INSIDE the cells? I know they had to show Rey's Force awakening but it's those plot contrivance that drive me crazy

And IMO there are plenty of these "plot contrivances" in the first three.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I am not trying to be a jerk. But you act as if there aren't some very questionable "things that don't work" in the originals. Thats all.

There aren't many...To me.And you're acting like all shortcomings are the same.

And how many jails post guards INSIDE the cells? I know they had to show Rey's Force awakening but it's those plot contrivance that drive me crazy

And IMO there are plenty of these "plot contrivances" in the first three.

Cool. IMO, there's not.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I am not trying to be a jerk. But you act as if there aren't some very questionable "things that don't work" in the originals. Thats all.

There aren't many...To me.And you're acting like all shortcomings are the same.

And how many jails post guards INSIDE the cells? I know they had to show Rey's Force awakening but it's those plot contrivance that drive me crazy

And IMO there are plenty of these "plot contrivances" in the first three.

Cool. IMO, there's not.

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

 

[Insein]

I am not trying to be a jerk. But you act as if there aren't some very questionable "things that don't work" in the originals. Thats all.

There aren't many...To me.And you're acting like all shortcomings are the same.

And how many jails post guards INSIDE the cells? I know they had to show Rey's Force awakening but it's those plot contrivance that drive me crazy

And IMO there are plenty of these "plot contrivances" in the first three.

Cool. IMO, there's not.

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Obiwan Ben Larry Kenobi. Actually he goes by Steve now.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

Christ. I'm pretty sure my wife won't have sex with me tonight for just reading that. Talk about .

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

Christ. I'm pretty sure my wife won't have sex with me tonight for just reading that. Talk about .

Some of that may not be completely accurate.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

"And these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only imperial storm troopers are so precise" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

Christ. I'm pretty sure my wife won't have sex with me tonight for just reading that. Talk about .

Some of that may not be completely accurate.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

"And these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only imperial storm troopers are so precise" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

Eveyone in that galaxy was just a WORSE shot than storm troopers.

 

[Hang 10]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

"And these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only imperial storm troopers are so precise" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

Lucas made a liar out of Kenobi constantly in the proceeding movies. That line worked perfectly at the time though.

 

[Jobber]

Luke's hands conveniently tied in front of him at the sarlacc pit, to enable him receiving his light saber.

 

[Insein]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

"And these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only imperial storm troopers are so precise" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

"That wizard's just a crazy old hermit." Clearly Owen knew he was going senile.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Luke's hands conveniently tied in front of him at the sarlacc pit, to enable him receiving his light saber.

His hands were unbound on the plank.

 

[Hang 10]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

"And these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only imperial storm troopers are so precise" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

"That wizard's just a crazy old hermit." Clearly Owen knew he was going senile.

What's funny is besides storm troopers being horrible shots, TPM shows sand people shooting pods going hundreds of miles per hour with a sniper rifle.

 

[Jobber]

Luke's hands conveniently tied in front of him at the sarlacc pit, to enable him receiving his light saber.

His hands were unbound on the plank.

Oh yeah! Now I remember the salute to R2. That makes it even worse.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

What's funny is besides storm troopers being horrible shots, TPM shows sand people shooting pods going hundreds of miles per hour with a sniper rifle.

That was Lucas' attempt at humor.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Ben Kenobi = Obi Wan Kenobi...pretty tough code to crack.

Kenobi is the Smith of that galaxy.In the cantina alone there was Ownellco Kenobi and Muftak Kenobi. Dice Ibegon's maiden name was Kenobi.

"And these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only imperial storm troopers are so precise" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

"That wizard's just a crazy old hermit." Clearly Owen knew he was going senile.

What's funny is besides storm troopers being horrible shots, TPM shows sand people shooting pods going hundreds of miles per hour with a sniper rifle.

Pretty racist to just lump all "sand people" into one group. Sure, they may look similar, but let's not go saying "they all do this..." or "they all are bad at that..." It's this type of racism that is running rampant in the outer rim.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Thought Carrie Fisher was awful. Any scene she was in flopped, particularly those with Harrison Ford.

In a movie full of really good acting, she was definitely the worst. It's probably why she didn't get a lot of lines.

I don't think she was awful, but she was mediocre and the rest of the cast was excellent.

 

[ScottNorwood]

So who is organizing the Star Wars draft?

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Vader: I want the hyper drive from the Millennium Falcon damaged so that they cannot reach light speed

Mechanic: Any thought to just totally disabling the engine?

Vader: *force choke*

 

[Hang 10]

Luke's hands conveniently tied in front of him at the sarlacc pit, to enable him receiving his light saber.

His hands were unbound on the plank.

Oh yeah! Now I remember the salute to R2. That makes it even worse.

Your memory is full of plot holes.

 

[PatsWillWin]

There's a difference between plot holes and stuff that just doesn't work.

And you do not think there was anything in the first three that "just didn't work"?

Not much in the first two. A few in Jedi. Just about everything in the prequels.

How about how it looks like Luke has weeks of training with Yoda when really it all happened while Han & Co. flew to and ate lunch at Cloud City?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

How can they have life scanners that work at a distance but R2 has to manually plug into the Empire's mainframe like a goon?

 

[Jobber]

Luke's hands conveniently tied in front of him at the sarlacc pit, to enable him receiving his light saber.

His hands were unbound on the plank.

Oh yeah! Now I remember the salute to R2. That makes it even worse.

Your memory is full of plot holes.

FYI, the above is an old debate trick.

 

[AcerFC]

So who is organizing the Star Wars draft?

you

 

[Andy Dufresne]

There's a difference between plot holes and stuff that just doesn't work.

And you do not think there was anything in the first three that "just didn't work"?

Not much in the first two. A few in Jedi. Just about everything in the prequels.

How about how it looks like Luke has weeks of training with Yoda when really it all happened while Han & Co. flew to and ate lunch at Cloud City?

And you know how long it took to get to Cloud City?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Vader: I want the hyper drive from the Millennium Falcon damaged so that they cannot reach light speed

Mechanic: Any thought to just totally disabling the engine?

Vader: *force choke*

Leia: They only sent two TIE fighters after us, they easily could've sent 100. Obviously the only explanation is that the Empire put a tracking device on the Falcon. #### it, let's go straight to our hidden base anyway, I'm sure we'll figure out a way to blow up the space station that just turned my home planet into dust in time!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

How can they have life scanners that work at a distance but R2 has to manually plug into the Empire's mainframe like a goon?

WiFi isn't as fast as being plugged in. And I think R2 was running with a DOCSIS 2.0 modem.