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STAR WARS: EP 7 ***SPOILER ZONE*** - Go here if you've seen it (1 Viewer)

Great movie.

Brought my 12 yr old who hasn't seen any of the of the previous movies - he enjoyed it as well. Stood well on its own.

Also did a great job mixing the old characters into the new.

Definitely going to see again - next time IMAX.

 
Stupid Question:

It was Corsucont(sp) they blew up, right?

They only identify the planet as "the seat of the Republic."
thats what I assumed but the Star Wars boards say no it was hosnian prime or something.Sure looked like coruscant to me.

 
Reading the thread, I can understand a little better how expectations built up and disappointed some of you a little.

A few observations about topics discussed:

I think one reason lightsabers are given a Mjolnir treatment because of the EU lore of each Jedi carefully crafting this powerful weapon, and because of that only Force users have such an item in their possession. It makes sense to think only Force users can use a lightsaber, but what if we haven't seen "normal" users is because they just never had the opportunity on the big screen?

A big revelation to me about Finn was, I believe, he said the attack on Jakku was his first combat experience. Did Hux or Phasma mention a spotless record for brainwashing, or is it possible there have been other defectors? Adding this with the above... It still seems Finn is Force-sensitive but there are explanatory tidbits out there for him being a normal human.

It seems highly likely Rey keeps it all in the family, but it's also possible some of the recognition in Luke's face is of his old lightsaber, something he thought had been lost to time.

 
Stupid Question:

It was Corsucont(sp) they blew up, right?

They only identify the planet as "the seat of the Republic."
thats what I assumed but the Star Wars boards say no it was hosnian prime or something.Sure looked like coruscant to me.
It felt like JJ almost went out of his way to not name a bunch of the planets.

I don't know the planets that were blown up nor the planet Leia was on or the planet Luke was on.

If they were mentioned in the movie I simply missed it and will have to listen closer next viewing.

 
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.

 
Damn. Rey not Ren. Whatever they both had nice asses though.
In their prime, how do we rate in comparison Fisher, Portman and Ridley?
Portman, Ridley, Fisher.Though Ridley I don't think has hit her prime yet.
I think Ridley was slightly older for 7 than Fisher was in 4 and a couple of years older than Portman was in 1.

Portman was dressed down in 1 to make her look closer to 14 when the actress was 19 if memory serves.

 
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Had I not known for 20 years that Ford wanted this character to die, it would have had more emotion for me. I simply expected it going in.

 
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Like always, completely disagree. My theatre was in shock. Very gripping scene.

 
Reading the thread, I can understand a little better how expectations built up and disappointed some of you a little.

A few observations about topics discussed:

I think one reason lightsabers are given a Mjolnir treatment because of the EU lore of each Jedi carefully crafting this powerful weapon, and because of that only Force users have such an item in their possession. It makes sense to think only Force users can use a lightsaber, but what if we haven't seen "normal" users is because they just never had the opportunity on the big screen?

A big revelation to me about Finn was, I believe, he said the attack on Jakku was his first combat experience. Did Hux or Phasma mention a spotless record for brainwashing, or is it possible there have been other defectors? Adding this with the above... It still seems Finn is Force-sensitive but there are explanatory tidbits out there for him being a normal human.

It seems highly likely Rey keeps it all in the family, but it's also possible some of the recognition in Luke's face is of his old lightsaber, something he thought had been lost to time.
That robot guy that fought Kenobi was skilled and he wasn't a Sith.

I don't think Light Sabers are sentient like Mjolnir or wands in Harry Potter. Perhaps the Jedi keep their making a secret or the Force is used in creating one. It could also be that for those without force abilities, a light saber isn't as effective of a weapon as a blaster. Without force abilities, you aren't going to be blocking laser blasts reliably and it's only going to be a melee weapon.

 
I still say we need to forget the term Sith. They are the Knights of Ren, the Sith are gone and they don't follow the same rules.
Maybe but I am not sure of that. I just think Ren hasn't completed his training.
Knights of Ren an indication that the bad guys are going away from the rule of only 2 Sith at a time?
Most idiotic rule in history - if Sith are so dangerous to another Sith then why would you train one? :lmao:

 
netnalp said:
hagmania said:
Reading the thread, I can understand a little better how expectations built up and disappointed some of you a little.

A few observations about topics discussed:

I think one reason lightsabers are given a Mjolnir treatment because of the EU lore of each Jedi carefully crafting this powerful weapon, and because of that only Force users have such an item in their possession. It makes sense to think only Force users can use a lightsaber, but what if we haven't seen "normal" users is because they just never had the opportunity on the big screen?

A big revelation to me about Finn was, I believe, he said the attack on Jakku was his first combat experience. Did Hux or Phasma mention a spotless record for brainwashing, or is it possible there have been other defectors? Adding this with the above... It still seems Finn is Force-sensitive but there are explanatory tidbits out there for him being a normal human.

It seems highly likely Rey keeps it all in the family, but it's also possible some of the recognition in Luke's face is of his old lightsaber, something he thought had been lost to time.
That robot guy that fought Kenobi was skilled and he wasn't a Sith. I don't think Light Sabers are sentient like Mjolnir or wands in Harry Potter. Perhaps the Jedi keep their making a secret or the Force is used in creating one. It could also be that for those without force abilities, a light saber isn't as effective of a weapon as a blaster. Without force abilities, you aren't going to be blocking laser blasts reliably and it's only going to be a melee weapon.
I agree that they are not sentient.

General Grevious was not a robot. He was a Kalesh warrior that chose to get cybernetic parts to enhance his power. He was eventually recruited by Dooku and trained in the Jedi arts.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Had I not known for 20 years that Ford wanted this character to die, it would have had more emotion for me. I simply expected it going in.
I'm not so sure that was a factor this time. Yes, Ford said that back then. But now it made sense for him to die because you want to remove the impression that a big name character can't die. Helps to move on to the new characters. Leia isn't as essential to fans. Chewie is ageless, you can change his actors and it wouldn't make a difference. Chewie is a great way to maintain a link to the older films and kids will love him too. So basically that left Han or Luke to die. Luke has the greater role in the scheme of things. So, it was Han.

 
GoFishTN said:
Thought it was OK until Han's death. Really picked up after that.

Maybe it's been discussed, but my biggest gripe is Chewy walking right past Leia after they return.
I took it as he was too guilt ridden. He let Han die which is basically one of the worst Offenses a Wookie can commit. He failed his life debt.

 
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cstu said:
netnalp said:
Capella said:
Billy Bats said:
I still say we need to forget the term Sith. They are the Knights of Ren, the Sith are gone and they don't follow the same rules.
Maybe but I am not sure of that. I just think Ren hasn't completed his training.
Knights of Ren an indication that the bad guys are going away from the rule of only 2 Sith at a time?
Most idiotic rule in history - if Sith are so dangerous to another Sith then why would you train one? :lmao:
From what I read was the rule was initiated by the Sith because prior to that there was so much in fighting that they couldn't accomplish much. Plus with only two they could act more discretely.

 
Leia says they shouldn't have sent Ben away to Luke, which I presume was done at a young age. You can call that bad parenting but I think its reasonable considering it was to train with Luke--no way they could know how that would turn out and in fact they had reason to believe that if he never got training or waited until he was older it could actually be riskier.
Why even send him away in the first place - why couldn't Luke train where Han and Leia lived?

Also, I don't agree that waiting is riskier - you should train someone when they are ready for it. It sounds like either Ben wasn't ready for it or Luke is a bad teacher.

 
sports_fan said:
Is stormtrooper armor able to deflect any type of attack?
small pebbles? Smoke according to Finn. Crazy that it would be effective against smoke and not poison. It can't be that the poison from the Falcon was a contact toxin. Finn and Rey were only wearing respirators, so they'd have skin exposure.

Storm Trooper armor must not be armor and is more just a uniform.

 
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Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Just came back from the second viewing. Enjoyed it much more than the first time around. One thing I noticed in greater detail, was when Han is talking to Kylo, the "light" is shining on them from the outside sun that's being drained when Kylo is asking for Han's help. As soon as the sun dies, the light goes out with it they zoom in on them two and Kylos face is lit up in red and that's when he turns back and kills Han. Pretty cool effect Indidnt pick up on the first time.

 
netnalp said:
hagmania said:
Reading the thread, I can understand a little better how expectations built up and disappointed some of you a little.

A few observations about topics discussed:

I think one reason lightsabers are given a Mjolnir treatment because of the EU lore of each Jedi carefully crafting this powerful weapon, and because of that only Force users have such an item in their possession. It makes sense to think only Force users can use a lightsaber, but what if we haven't seen "normal" users is because they just never had the opportunity on the big screen?

A big revelation to me about Finn was, I believe, he said the attack on Jakku was his first combat experience. Did Hux or Phasma mention a spotless record for brainwashing, or is it possible there have been other defectors? Adding this with the above... It still seems Finn is Force-sensitive but there are explanatory tidbits out there for him being a normal human.

It seems highly likely Rey keeps it all in the family, but it's also possible some of the recognition in Luke's face is of his old lightsaber, something he thought had been lost to time.
That robot guy that fought Kenobi was skilled and he wasn't a Sith. I don't think Light Sabers are sentient like Mjolnir or wands in Harry Potter. Perhaps the Jedi keep their making a secret or the Force is used in creating one. It could also be that for those without force abilities, a light saber isn't as effective of a weapon as a blaster. Without force abilities, you aren't going to be blocking laser blasts reliably and it's only going to be a melee weapon.
I agree that they are not sentient.

General Grevious was not a robot. He was a Kalesh warrior that chose to get cybernetic parts to enhance his power. He was eventually recruited by Dooku and trained in the Jedi arts.
Did Grevious have any force powers?

 
netnalp said:
hagmania said:
Reading the thread, I can understand a little better how expectations built up and disappointed some of you a little.

A few observations about topics discussed:

I think one reason lightsabers are given a Mjolnir treatment because of the EU lore of each Jedi carefully crafting this powerful weapon, and because of that only Force users have such an item in their possession. It makes sense to think only Force users can use a lightsaber, but what if we haven't seen "normal" users is because they just never had the opportunity on the big screen?

A big revelation to me about Finn was, I believe, he said the attack on Jakku was his first combat experience. Did Hux or Phasma mention a spotless record for brainwashing, or is it possible there have been other defectors? Adding this with the above... It still seems Finn is Force-sensitive but there are explanatory tidbits out there for him being a normal human.

It seems highly likely Rey keeps it all in the family, but it's also possible some of the recognition in Luke's face is of his old lightsaber, something he thought had been lost to time.
That robot guy that fought Kenobi was skilled and he wasn't a Sith. I don't think Light Sabers are sentient like Mjolnir or wands in Harry Potter. Perhaps the Jedi keep their making a secret or the Force is used in creating one. It could also be that for those without force abilities, a light saber isn't as effective of a weapon as a blaster. Without force abilities, you aren't going to be blocking laser blasts reliably and it's only going to be a melee weapon.
I agree that they are not sentient.

General Grevious was not a robot. He was a Kalesh warrior that chose to get cybernetic parts to enhance his power. He was eventually recruited by Dooku and trained in the Jedi arts.
Did Grevious have any force powers?
Much of his back story comes from the books but I don't think he did but I can't be sure. I think when he referred to Jedi arts he was being specific about fighting with light sabers.

 
NewlyRetired said:
netnalp said:
Insein said:
AAABatteries said:
Insein said:
Great that it was based on action and less politics but at times I felt lost.
Can you explain what you mean here? I get most of the complaints about the story not being new, about DeathStar 3.0, Rey being powerful quickly, etc. but I'm not sure what you mean by being lost - the story seemed to be right there in front you. Nothing confusing or convoluted which is another reason to like it IMO. They kept it simple and executed it very, very well.
I guess that was my problem. It was simple to the point that I was like, there's more to this right? It's not just rebels, empire, death Star, boom again right?
Yes. There are 3 groups. The Resistance, Senate and New Order. Resistance is the former Rebels. Senate is the political powers duped by the Sith and was part of The Empire. New Order appears to be the military forces that were part of The Empire, though minus the clones and robots. Looks like the Resistance and the Senate might be allied, either way they are both enemies of the New Order.
They blew up Coruscant in this movie so there may be no senate left.
Coruscant is still around, it wasn't blown up. They blew up the Hosnian system which didn't include Coruscant.

 
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Just came back from the second viewing. Enjoyed it much more than the first time around. One thing I noticed in greater detail, was when Han is talking to Kylo, the "light" is shining on them from the outside sun that's being drained when Kylo is asking for Han's help. As soon as the sun dies, the light goes out with it they zoom in on them two and Kylos face is lit up in red and that's when he turns back and kills Han. Pretty cool effect Indidnt pick up on the first time.
Did you catch anything in the Rey flash back scene we have overlooked? I feel like I need to watch that in slow motion to get everything.

 
NewlyRetired said:
netnalp said:
Insein said:
AAABatteries said:
Insein said:
Great that it was based on action and less politics but at times I felt lost.
Can you explain what you mean here? I get most of the complaints about the story not being new, about DeathStar 3.0, Rey being powerful quickly, etc. but I'm not sure what you mean by being lost - the story seemed to be right there in front you. Nothing confusing or convoluted which is another reason to like it IMO. They kept it simple and executed it very, very well.
I guess that was my problem. It was simple to the point that I was like, there's more to this right? It's not just rebels, empire, death Star, boom again right?
Yes. There are 3 groups. The Resistance, Senate and New Order. Resistance is the former Rebels. Senate is the political powers duped by the Sith and was part of The Empire. New Order appears to be the military forces that were part of The Empire, though minus the clones and robots. Looks like the Resistance and the Senate might be allied, either way they are both enemies of the New Order.
They blew up Coruscant in this movie so there may be no senate left.
Coruscant is still around, it wasn't blown up. They blew up the Hosnian system which didn't include Coruscant.
Yeah I have read that since I posted this. It looked a lot like Coruscant.

Did they move the political center from Coruscant to Hosnian system after they started to rebuild after 6?

 
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Just came back from the second viewing. Enjoyed it much more than the first time around. One thing I noticed in greater detail, was when Han is talking to Kylo, the "light" is shining on them from the outside sun that's being drained when Kylo is asking for Han's help. As soon as the sun dies, the light goes out with it they zoom in on them two and Kylos face is lit up in red and that's when he turns back and kills Han. Pretty cool effect Indidnt pick up on the first time.
Did you catch anything in the Rey flash back scene we have overlooked? I feel like I need to watch that in slow motion to get everything.
It sounds like the alien she was trading scraps for food with was the one who was holding her arm when she was 10 and screaming "come back". So many whispers going on was hard to differentiate. Definitely hear old school Obi-Wan say either Rey or run. I even videoed it on my phone :lol: but couldn't pick up anything else significant.

 
NewlyRetired said:
netnalp said:
Insein said:
AAABatteries said:
Insein said:
Great that it was based on action and less politics but at times I felt lost.
Can you explain what you mean here? I get most of the complaints about the story not being new, about DeathStar 3.0, Rey being powerful quickly, etc. but I'm not sure what you mean by being lost - the story seemed to be right there in front you. Nothing confusing or convoluted which is another reason to like it IMO. They kept it simple and executed it very, very well.
I guess that was my problem. It was simple to the point that I was like, there's more to this right? It's not just rebels, empire, death Star, boom again right?
Yes. There are 3 groups. The Resistance, Senate and New Order. Resistance is the former Rebels. Senate is the political powers duped by the Sith and was part of The Empire. New Order appears to be the military forces that were part of The Empire, though minus the clones and robots. Looks like the Resistance and the Senate might be allied, either way they are both enemies of the New Order.
They blew up Coruscant in this movie so there may be no senate left.
Coruscant is still around, it wasn't blown up. They blew up the Hosnian system which didn't include Coruscant.
Yeah I have read that since I posted this. It looked a lot like Coruscant.Did they move the political center from Coruscant to Hosnian system after they started to rebuild after 6?
Not sure, I had assumed everything (Republic government and resistance base) was all part of their last target. :shrug:

 
Capella said:
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Like always, completely disagree. My theatre was in shock. Very gripping scene.
:goodposting:

I was totally :jawdrop:

 
The Ref said:
I just blew by a bunch of pages so if I missed it forgive me..... Did we ever figure out what was up with 3PO's red arm?
Anyone?
Abrams: “Moments like Threepio’s arm came from the desire to, well, mark time. It’s almost like...”

Reporter: Unknown events have transpired?

Abrams: “Exactly. You know the moment when you reconnect with someone after years apart? You see the lines on their face, you think, oh, they’ve lived 10 years!”

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-11-10/jj-abrams-reveals-the-secret-of-c-3pos-red-arm-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens

 
KarmaPolice said:
GoFishTN said:
Thought it was OK until Han's death. Really picked up after that.

Maybe it's been discussed, but my biggest gripe is Chewy walking right past Leia after they return.
Well, she did basically send him to get their son.
:confused: I'm talking about the end, after Han was dead.

 
What was the specific reason R2 woke up right when he did? They had been in that location for a while and BB8 tried to get him to move but he would not.

What made him later realize he had the rest of the map info that he could have given earlier?

 
NewlyRetired said:
netnalp said:
Insein said:
AAABatteries said:
Insein said:
Great that it was based on action and less politics but at times I felt lost.
Can you explain what you mean here? I get most of the complaints about the story not being new, about DeathStar 3.0, Rey being powerful quickly, etc. but I'm not sure what you mean by being lost - the story seemed to be right there in front you. Nothing confusing or convoluted which is another reason to like it IMO. They kept it simple and executed it very, very well.
I guess that was my problem. It was simple to the point that I was like, there's more to this right? It's not just rebels, empire, death Star, boom again right?
Yes. There are 3 groups. The Resistance, Senate and New Order. Resistance is the former Rebels. Senate is the political powers duped by the Sith and was part of The Empire. New Order appears to be the military forces that were part of The Empire, though minus the clones and robots. Looks like the Resistance and the Senate might be allied, either way they are both enemies of the New Order.
They blew up Coruscant in this movie so there may be no senate left.
Did they though? I couldn't tell what any of those planets were.

 
What was the specific reason R2 woke up right when he did? They had been in that location for a while and BB8 tried to get him to move but he would not.

What made him later realize he had the rest of the map info that he could have given earlier?
Rey.

 
Insein said:
NewlyRetired said:
Insein said:
Kylo ren had potential but even with injury, no way Finn should have ever gotten a hit on him. And Rey never trained in her life. She wins?
People had some interesting speculation earlier in the thread that she was trained by Luke and then had her mind wiped and stashed on a out of the way planet, after Luke lost Ben to the dark side.

I don't know if it is true but it would match some of the "awakening" she had which fits in the title.
That would make some sense but they showed her as a little kid. Training is kind of physical and she grew a lot since then. Would take some time to get caught up on the motions with her older body.
Did you miss the part when she kicked the asses of the two guys that attacked her just before she met Finn? She obviously was a pretty good fighter even before she found the force.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Had I not known for 20 years that Ford wanted this character to die, it would have had more emotion for me. I simply expected it going in.
This was me. No idea Ford wanted Solo to die. Why?
 
What was the specific reason R2 woke up right when he did? They had been in that location for a while and BB8 tried to get him to move but he would not.

What made him later realize he had the rest of the map info that he could have given earlier?
Rey.
So he could have programmed himself in low power mode to wake up when he sensors picked up Luke, but then woke up when they instead picked up Rey?

I could buy that assuming Rey is his daughter.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Had I not known for 20 years that Ford wanted this character to die, it would have had more emotion for me. I simply expected it going in.
This was me. No idea Ford wanted Solo to die. Why?
He thought it would've added a lot more to the ROTJ story. It wasn't all unicorns and rainbows, somebody that was loved died.It's probably why he's been so giddy on all his TFA promos. He LOVES this movie, that probably has a lot to do with it from his end.

 
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NewlyRetired said:
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Had I not known for 20 years that Ford wanted this character to die, it would have had more emotion for me. I simply expected it going in.
This was me. No idea Ford wanted Solo to die. Why?
He's an ###hole. HTH.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Had I not known for 20 years that Ford wanted this character to die, it would have had more emotion for me. I simply expected it going in.
This was me. No idea Ford wanted Solo to die. Why?
He has since recanted but he told Lucas he was sick of the character and wanted to give Jedi some gravitas by killing him off.

George could not see the reasoning behind it because of the finances looking into the future.

 
NewlyRetired said:
netnalp said:
Insein said:
AAABatteries said:
Insein said:
Great that it was based on action and less politics but at times I felt lost.
Can you explain what you mean here? I get most of the complaints about the story not being new, about DeathStar 3.0, Rey being powerful quickly, etc. but I'm not sure what you mean by being lost - the story seemed to be right there in front you. Nothing confusing or convoluted which is another reason to like it IMO. They kept it simple and executed it very, very well.
I guess that was my problem. It was simple to the point that I was like, there's more to this right? It's not just rebels, empire, death Star, boom again right?
Yes. There are 3 groups. The Resistance, Senate and New Order. Resistance is the former Rebels. Senate is the political powers duped by the Sith and was part of The Empire. New Order appears to be the military forces that were part of The Empire, though minus the clones and robots. Looks like the Resistance and the Senate might be allied, either way they are both enemies of the New Order.
They blew up Coruscant in this movie so there may be no senate left.
Did they though? I couldn't tell what any of those planets were.
You are a bit behind in reading. It turns out the system was Hosnian, not Coruscant.

 
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Just came back from the second viewing. Enjoyed it much more than the first time around. One thing I noticed in greater detail, was when Han is talking to Kylo, the "light" is shining on them from the outside sun that's being drained when Kylo is asking for Han's help. As soon as the sun dies, the light goes out with it they zoom in on them two and Kylos face is lit up in red and that's when he turns back and kills Han. Pretty cool effect Indidnt pick up on the first time.
Did you catch anything in the Rey flash back scene we have overlooked? I feel like I need to watch that in slow motion to get everything.
What kind of ship was leaving when Rey was a little girl? They showed the back of it. Looked similar to the first ship Leia was on in IV... I forget the name of the freighter.

 
Scoresman said:
NewlyRetired said:
Sabertooth said:
Damn. Rey not Ren. Whatever they both had nice asses though.
In their prime, how do we rate in comparison Fisher, Portman and Ridley?
Portman, Ridley >>>>>> Fisher.

Portman edges out due to the nipply scene in 2.
Portman's ### is all kinds of spectacular for a tiny girl. Check her out in "Closure"

 
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Just came back from the second viewing. Enjoyed it much more than the first time around. One thing I noticed in greater detail, was when Han is talking to Kylo, the "light" is shining on them from the outside sun that's being drained when Kylo is asking for Han's help. As soon as the sun dies, the light goes out with it they zoom in on them two and Kylos face is lit up in red and that's when he turns back and kills Han. Pretty cool effect Indidnt pick up on the first time.
Did you catch anything in the Rey flash back scene we have overlooked? I feel like I need to watch that in slow motion to get everything.
What kind of ship was leaving when Rey was a little girl? They showed the back of it. Looked similar to the first ship Leia was on in IV... I forget the name of the freighter.
Tantive IV: http://www.comicvine.com/api/image/scale_medium/3401952-5603261127-wallp.jpg

Interesting thought, I'll check my phone video see if I can tell it's a match. I rememebr this ship being more rounded. I'll get back to ya...

 
NewlyRetired said:
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Had I not known for 20 years that Ford wanted this character to die, it would have had more emotion for me. I simply expected it going in.
I'm not so sure that was a factor this time. Yes, Ford said that back then. But now it made sense for him to die because you want to remove the impression that a big name character can't die. Helps to move on to the new characters. Leia isn't as essential to fans. Chewie is ageless, you can change his actors and it wouldn't make a difference. Chewie is a great way to maintain a link to the older films and kids will love him too. So basically that left Han or Luke to die. Luke has the greater role in the scheme of things. So, it was Han.
I look forward to Chewie in a "Red Viper vs. The Mountain" fight scene to avenge Han's death.
 
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NewlyRetired said:
Mario Kart said:
Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.
Had I not known for 20 years that Ford wanted this character to die, it would have had more emotion for me. I simply expected it going in.
Yup. I posted that too. That's where knowing so much behind-the-scenes stuff influences my reaction to the story. If I didn't know anything about Ford's desire to have Han killed that scene would've been far more powerful.

 

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