STAR WARS: EP 7 ***SPOILER ZONE*** - Go here if you've seen it (1 Viewer)

[Wingnut]

Darth Troll.

 

[KarmaPolice]

And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.

I grew up with this, and I think the weakest scene of the movie involved Han, Leia was bad, and cringed when c3-po showed up.I think Kylo, Rey, and Poe were great. For me Finn was just good - just a few too mang jokes and snarks.

I will admit that I wouldn't have had quite the reaction if there wasnt X-Wing fighters and other stuff I love in it, but all I wanted out of this is some good acting, good looking action and no stupid physical humor and fart jokes. It delivered on those big time.

Talk to me about the action because I almost fell asleep in most of the "action" scenes. I felt the special efx were very so so. Nothing blew me away they did this in this film form a technical aspect.

I am not going to argue this was the best action ever shot. IMO this is the bsst action this series has seen. OT didn't have the technology, and Lucas has such a boner for his computers and green screen that everything looked super fake in the prequels . That is why I don't get fans of the series not loving every second of the Falcon chase, X-Wing battles, etc.

 

[Mario Kart]

Darth Troll.

Don't put the Sith down like that.

Jar Jar Troll

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Darth Troll.

He's not trolling.

 

[Insein]

Rey was awesome and Finn was good/funny. Poe seems to be the new Han Solo. Great casting all around

I felt Poe was Wedge. I know they're trying to make him into Han but he felt like a 3rd wheel instead of the completion of a triangle. Han was the man the moment he entered the screen. Poe can almost be a side character. Finn and Rey drive the show.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.

I grew up with this, and I think the weakest scene of the movie involved Han, Leia was bad, and cringed when c3-po showed up.

I think Kylo, Rey, and Poe were great. For me Finn was just good - just a few too mang jokes and snarks.

I will admit that I wouldn't have had quite the reaction if there wasnt X-Wing fighters and other stuff I love in it, but all I wanted out of this is some good acting, good looking action and no stupid physical humor and fart jokes. It delivered on those big time.

Talk to me about the action because I almost fell asleep in most of the "action" scenes. I felt the special efx were very so so. Nothing blew me away they did this in this film form a technical aspect.

You really want to have a discussion about it, this is how I felt:

The X-wing/Tie Fighter stuff didn't get me that juiced up, Poe was almost too good during that one scene where he took out like 7 Tie Fighters in 11 seconds.

But the scene with the X-Wings coming over the water was amazing. Visually, the crashed Star Destroyer Rey rode by on the speeder was incredible, but we saw that in the trailer. That's actually the shot that sold me on Abrams' vision for this.

As far as action goes, the Falcon/Tie Fighter chase at the beginning was excellent.

And most importantly, the lightsaber duels. WOW. They were raw, passionate, and intense, like the ones in ESB and ROTJ. Didn't look choreographed to death or performed by 130 lb acrobats twirling batons. The lightsaber battles had some weight to them, very gritty compared to the prequels which were just like circus acts, too clean and rehearsed-looking.

So much easier to have an exchange of thoughts when we stick to the facts and reasons for our opinions. I overlooked the Falcon scene, they did look good, the twirly she pulls into the ship seemed like a mix of Empire where Han pulls into the creature hole and in ROtJ when they fly thru tight quarters inside the Death Star. Abrahams I think also used that in the 2nd Star Trek as well flying thru very tight quarters.

As I am reading other posts I see there is some feeling that the movie slowed down when Solo shows up.

I want to switch to how the actors portray things. In Star Wars and Empire there really isn't much campy. But in this one, Finn is a little campy and jokes around, others including Solo deliver some of the lines with a campy vibe. Sci Fi can be campy and fun like Guardians of the Galaxy if you liked that, but Star Wars should not be treated with campy deliveries and I found some of them to be campy.

 

[Pipes]

It is quite naive to believe that the leads were cast without certain considerations.

So what?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And what do they have Finn, the only black character in the entire film I could find, what do they have his profession within the First Order?

JANITORIAL SERVICES!!!

You can't make this stuff up. Let's make him the custodian.

Star Wars

Janitor to Jedi

 

[Insein]

And what do they have Finn, the only black character in the entire film I could find, what do they have his profession within the First Order?

JANITORIAL SERVICES!!!

You can't make this stuff up. Let's make him the custodian.

Star Wars

Janitor to Jedi

Hadn't thought about that but that is almost Jar Jar steps in poop bad.

 

[flysack]

MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.

 

[skol asylum]

Just watched.

Yeah, a little too much back to the well with the destruction of the death planet but...

Best....Star Wars....movie...EVER.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.

I grew up with this, and I think the weakest scene of the movie involved Han, Leia was bad, and cringed when c3-po showed up.

I think Kylo, Rey, and Poe were great. For me Finn was just good - just a few too mang jokes and snarks.

I will admit that I wouldn't have had quite the reaction if there wasnt X-Wing fighters and other stuff I love in it, but all I wanted out of this is some good acting, good looking action and no stupid physical humor and fart jokes. It delivered on those big time.

Talk to me about the action because I almost fell asleep in most of the "action" scenes. I felt the special efx were very so so. Nothing blew me away they did this in this film form a technical aspect.

You really want to have a discussion about it, this is how I felt:

The X-wing/Tie Fighter stuff didn't get me that juiced up, Poe was almost too good during that one scene where he took out like 7 Tie Fighters in 11 seconds.

But the scene with the X-Wings coming over the water was amazing. Visually, the crashed Star Destroyer Rey rode by on the speeder was incredible, but we saw that in the trailer. That's actually the shot that sold me on Abrams' vision for this.

As far as action goes, the Falcon/Tie Fighter chase at the beginning was excellent.

And most importantly, the lightsaber duels. WOW. They were raw, passionate, and intense, like the ones in ESB and ROTJ. Didn't look choreographed to death or performed by 130 lb acrobats twirling batons. The lightsaber battles had some weight to them, very gritty compared to the prequels which were just like circus acts, too clean and rehearsed-looking.

So much easier to have an exchange of thoughts when we stick to the facts and reasons for our opinions. I overlooked the Falcon scene, they did look good, the twirly she pulls into the ship seemed like a mix of Empire where Han pulls into the creature hole and in ROtJ when they fly thru tight quarters inside the Death Star. Abrahams I think also used that in the 2nd Star Trek as well flying thru very tight quarters. As I am reading other posts I see there is some feeling that the movie slowed down when Solo shows up.

I want to switch to how the actors portray things. In Star Wars and Empire there really isn't much campy. But in this one, Finn is a little campy and jokes around, others including Solo deliver some of the lines with a campy vibe. Sci Fi can be campy and fun like Guardians of the Galaxy if you liked that, but Star Wars should not be treated with campy deliveries and I found some of them to be campy.

A New Hope was pretty campy, that was part of the charm. That's what this was going for, not an ESB vibe.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.

I grew up with this, and I think the weakest scene of the movie involved Han, Leia was bad, and cringed when c3-po showed up.

I think Kylo, Rey, and Poe were great. For me Finn was just good - just a few too mang jokes and snarks.

I will admit that I wouldn't have had quite the reaction if there wasnt X-Wing fighters and other stuff I love in it, but all I wanted out of this is some good acting, good looking action and no stupid physical humor and fart jokes. It delivered on those big time.

Talk to me about the action because I almost fell asleep in most of the "action" scenes. I felt the special efx were very so so. Nothing blew me away they did this in this film form a technical aspect.

You really want to have a discussion about it, this is how I felt:

The X-wing/Tie Fighter stuff didn't get me that juiced up, Poe was almost too good during that one scene where he took out like 7 Tie Fighters in 11 seconds.

But the scene with the X-Wings coming over the water was amazing. Visually, the crashed Star Destroyer Rey rode by on the speeder was incredible, but we saw that in the trailer. That's actually the shot that sold me on Abrams' vision for this.

As far as action goes, the Falcon/Tie Fighter chase at the beginning was excellent.

And most importantly, the lightsaber duels. WOW. They were raw, passionate, and intense, like the ones in ESB and ROTJ. Didn't look choreographed to death or performed by 130 lb acrobats twirling batons. The lightsaber battles had some weight to them, very gritty compared to the prequels which were just like circus acts, too clean and rehearsed-looking.

So much easier to have an exchange of thoughts when we stick to the facts and reasons for our opinions. I overlooked the Falcon scene, they did look good, the twirly she pulls into the ship seemed like a mix of Empire where Han pulls into the creature hole and in ROtJ when they fly thru tight quarters inside the Death Star. Abrahams I think also used that in the 2nd Star Trek as well flying thru very tight quarters. As I am reading other posts I see there is some feeling that the movie slowed down when Solo shows up.

I want to switch to how the actors portray things. In Star Wars and Empire there really isn't much campy. But in this one, Finn is a little campy and jokes around, others including Solo deliver some of the lines with a campy vibe. Sci Fi can be campy and fun like Guardians of the Galaxy if you liked that, but Star Wars should not be treated with campy deliveries and I found some of them to be campy.

A New Hope was pretty campy, that was part of the charm. That's what this was going for, not an ESB vibe.

 

[Insein]

Another thing that bugged me, Hosnian Prime. I've read now that it was 4 moons destroyed along with it so the visuals of 5 planets that close don't bother me. However, without the back story from the novel, why would I ever care about this planet? Never been mentioned before. No mention of the Senate being moved there. I just assumed coruscant was still the capital since most of the galactic economy runs through it. Instead we get a planet and its moons with humanoid people on it being destroyed for a republic we know about by an offhand comment from the bad guys. Who cares. Had they actually destroyed coruscant, a planet we've seen, then we'd have some take on how serious the first order is. For all we know they just destroyed some hick world in the middle of the podunk system. Congratulations. Glad you shot your one load on that first order. Hope the resources you wasted on it were worth it.

 

[flysack]

And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.

I grew up with this, and I think the weakest scene of the movie involved Han, Leia was bad, and cringed when c3-po showed up.

I think Kylo, Rey, and Poe were great. For me Finn was just good - just a few too mang jokes and snarks.

I will admit that I wouldn't have had quite the reaction if there wasnt X-Wing fighters and other stuff I love in it, but all I wanted out of this is some good acting, good looking action and no stupid physical humor and fart jokes. It delivered on those big time.

Talk to me about the action because I almost fell asleep in most of the "action" scenes. I felt the special efx were very so so. Nothing blew me away they did this in this film form a technical aspect.

You really want to have a discussion about it, this is how I felt:

The X-wing/Tie Fighter stuff didn't get me that juiced up, Poe was almost too good during that one scene where he took out like 7 Tie Fighters in 11 seconds.

But the scene with the X-Wings coming over the water was amazing. Visually, the crashed Star Destroyer Rey rode by on the speeder was incredible, but we saw that in the trailer. That's actually the shot that sold me on Abrams' vision for this.

As far as action goes, the Falcon/Tie Fighter chase at the beginning was excellent.

And most importantly, the lightsaber duels. WOW. They were raw, passionate, and intense, like the ones in ESB and ROTJ. Didn't look choreographed to death or performed by 130 lb acrobats twirling batons. The lightsaber battles had some weight to them, very gritty compared to the prequels which were just like circus acts, too clean and rehearsed-looking.

Holy hell, spot on.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

 

[KarmaPolice]

And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.

I grew up with this, and I think the weakest scene of the movie involved Han, Leia was bad, and cringed when c3-po showed up.I think Kylo, Rey, and Poe were great. For me Finn was just good - just a few too mang jokes and snarks.

I will admit that I wouldn't have had quite the reaction if there wasnt X-Wing fighters and other stuff I love in it, but all I wanted out of this is some good acting, good looking action and no stupid physical humor and fart jokes. It delivered on those big time.

Talk to me about the action because I almost fell asleep in most of the "action" scenes. I felt the special efx were very so so. Nothing blew me away they did this in this film form a technical aspect.

You really want to have a discussion about it, this is how I felt:

The X-wing/Tie Fighter stuff didn't get me that juiced up, Poe was almost too good during that one scene where he took out like 7 Tie Fighters in 11 seconds.

But the scene with the X-Wings coming over the water was amazing. Visually, the crashed Star Destroyer Rey rode by on the speeder was incredible, but we saw that in the trailer. That's actually the shot that sold me on Abrams' vision for this.

As far as action goes, the Falcon/Tie Fighter chase at the beginning was excellent.

And most importantly, the lightsaber duels. WOW. They were raw, passionate, and intense, like the ones in ESB and ROTJ. Didn't look choreographed to death or performed by 130 lb acrobats twirling batons. The lightsaber battles had some weight to them, very gritty compared to the prequels which were just like circus acts, too clean and rehearsed-looking.

 

[timschochet]

Another thing that bugged me, Hosnian Prime. I've read now that it was 4 moons destroyed along with it so the visuals of 5 planets that close don't bother me. However, without the back story from the novel, why would I ever care about this planet? Never been mentioned before. No mention of the Senate being moved there. I just assumed coruscant was still the capital since most of the galactic economy runs through it. Instead we get a planet and its moons with humanoid people on it being destroyed for a republic we know about by an offhand comment from the bad guys. Who cares. Had they actually destroyed coruscant, a planet we've seen, then we'd have some take on how serious the first order is. For all we know they just destroyed some hick world in the middle of the podunk system. Congratulations. Glad you shot your one load on that first order. Hope the resources you wasted on it were worth it.

You know, I just saw the movie today, really enjoyed it, and I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. This really bothered you? Seriously?

 

[Mario Kart]

Here's a plot twist, Empire like, for episode VIII.

Ren turns Rey into a Dark Jedi. Leia is killed off similar to Han. Luke comes out of exile only to lose in Episode IX. The Sith rise again with no Jedi in sight to stop them.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Another thing that bugged me, Hosnian Prime. I've read now that it was 4 moons destroyed along with it so the visuals of 5 planets that close don't bother me. However, without the back story from the novel, why would I ever care about this planet? Never been mentioned before. No mention of the Senate being moved there. I just assumed coruscant was still the capital since most of the galactic economy runs through it. Instead we get a planet and its moons with humanoid people on it being destroyed for a republic we know about by an offhand comment from the bad guys. Who cares. Had they actually destroyed coruscant, a planet we've seen, then we'd have some take on how serious the first order is. For all we know they just destroyed some hick world in the middle of the podunk system. Congratulations. Glad you shot your one load on that first order. Hope the resources you wasted on it were worth it.

You know, I just saw the movie today, really enjoyed it, and I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. This really bothered you? Seriously?

Did you cry when they blew up 4 planets at once? I felt very little connection to things that I needed to be in order for everything to flow.

But let's focus for a second on Luke being gone. Why would this guy Ren want to go try and stir up a hornet's nest which is essentially what he is doing. Seems like he could destroy the Rebels...oh sorry my bad...Resistance and then when he mastered the dark side he could hunt down Luke and tell him he killed everyone he ever cared about.

Solo Jr had the galaxy pretty much to himself but he decides to go wake the dead and now has the most powerful Jedi in the universe who will be hunting him instead. Brilliant!

 

[Insein]

Another thing that bugged me, Hosnian Prime. I've read now that it was 4 moons destroyed along with it so the visuals of 5 planets that close don't bother me. However, without the back story from the novel, why would I ever care about this planet? Never been mentioned before. No mention of the Senate being moved there. I just assumed coruscant was still the capital since most of the galactic economy runs through it. Instead we get a planet and its moons with humanoid people on it being destroyed for a republic we know about by an offhand comment from the bad guys. Who cares. Had they actually destroyed coruscant, a planet we've seen, then we'd have some take on how serious the first order is. For all we know they just destroyed some hick world in the middle of the podunk system. Congratulations. Glad you shot your one load on that first order. Hope the resources you wasted on it were worth it.

You know, I just saw the movie today, really enjoyed it, and I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. This really bothered you? Seriously?

Very much so. They blew up a planet and its moons. BFD. We only knew that the republic was some how based there from the bad guys brief mention right before blowing it up. Otherwise, the republic has always been on Coruscant. Had they blown that up, then people take notice. What is Hosnian Prime? The first mention we get of it is that it's getting blown up.

Similar to Alderaan but you felt more trepidation there because that was Leia's homeworld. You could feel her desperation and helplessness while getting a glimpse of just how unabashedly evil the Empire is. They blew up a planet because it had rebels on it. They had enough spare time and resources to build a monstrosity that could destroy planets because why not.

Other than bring a cool shot, that scene added nothing emotionally.

 

[Ladsud]

Why would Ren want to emulate a failure? He has to know that Vader turned away from the dark and went back to Anakin. Why worship Vader when Vader abandoned the dark side cause it sucks?

 

[skol asylum]

Another thing that bugged me, Hosnian Prime. I've read now that it was 4 moons destroyed along with it so the visuals of 5 planets that close don't bother me. However, without the back story from the novel, why would I ever care about this planet? Never been mentioned before. No mention of the Senate being moved there. I just assumed coruscant was still the capital since most of the galactic economy runs through it. Instead we get a planet and its moons with humanoid people on it being destroyed for a republic we know about by an offhand comment from the bad guys. Who cares. Had they actually destroyed coruscant, a planet we've seen, then we'd have some take on how serious the first order is. For all we know they just destroyed some hick world in the middle of the podunk system. Congratulations. Glad you shot your one load on that first order. Hope the resources you wasted on it were worth it.

You know, I just saw the movie today, really enjoyed it, and I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. This really bothered you? Seriously?

Did you cry when they blew up 4 planets at once? I felt very little connection to things that I needed to be in order for everything to flow. But let's focus for a second on Luke being gone. Why would this guy Ren want to go try and stir up a hornet's nest which is essentially what he is doing. Seems like he could destroy the Rebels...oh sorry my bad...Resistance and then when he mastered the dark side he could hunt down Luke and tell him he killed everyone he ever cared about.

Solo Jr had the galaxy pretty much to himself but he decides to go wake the dead and now has the most powerful Jedi in the universe who will be hunting him instead. Brilliant!

Kinda like Hitler trying to take out the Russians before he finished taking care of the Brits.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

SW is not Sci Fi.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Another thing that bugged me, Hosnian Prime. I've read now that it was 4 moons destroyed along with it so the visuals of 5 planets that close don't bother me. However, without the back story from the novel, why would I ever care about this planet? Never been mentioned before. No mention of the Senate being moved there. I just assumed coruscant was still the capital since most of the galactic economy runs through it. Instead we get a planet and its moons with humanoid people on it being destroyed for a republic we know about by an offhand comment from the bad guys. Who cares. Had they actually destroyed coruscant, a planet we've seen, then we'd have some take on how serious the first order is. For all we know they just destroyed some hick world in the middle of the podunk system. Congratulations. Glad you shot your one load on that first order. Hope the resources you wasted on it were worth it.

You know, I just saw the movie today, really enjoyed it, and I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. This really bothered you? Seriously?

Did you cry when they blew up 4 planets at once? I felt very little connection to things that I needed to be in order for everything to flow. But let's focus for a second on Luke being gone. Why would this guy Ren want to go try and stir up a hornet's nest which is essentially what he is doing. Seems like he could destroy the Rebels...oh sorry my bad...Resistance and then when he mastered the dark side he could hunt down Luke and tell him he killed everyone he ever cared about.

Solo Jr had the galaxy pretty much to himself but he decides to go wake the dead and now has the most powerful Jedi in the universe who will be hunting him instead. Brilliant!

1. Did you care about Alderaan in ANH when it was destroyed? Never heard of it till right then, and didn't even see anyone die on the planet.

2. The movie started with someone giving the Resistance the puzzle piece to find Luke. That's what Ren was after, so the Resistance didn't get to him first. He didn't go looking for him out of the blue. Did you even watch the movie you're criticizing?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Another thing that bugged me, Hosnian Prime. I've read now that it was 4 moons destroyed along with it so the visuals of 5 planets that close don't bother me. However, without the back story from the novel, why would I ever care about this planet? Never been mentioned before. No mention of the Senate being moved there. I just assumed coruscant was still the capital since most of the galactic economy runs through it. Instead we get a planet and its moons with humanoid people on it being destroyed for a republic we know about by an offhand comment from the bad guys. Who cares. Had they actually destroyed coruscant, a planet we've seen, then we'd have some take on how serious the first order is. For all we know they just destroyed some hick world in the middle of the podunk system. Congratulations. Glad you shot your one load on that first order. Hope the resources you wasted on it were worth it.

You know, I just saw the movie today, really enjoyed it, and I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. This really bothered you? Seriously?

Did you cry when they blew up 4 planets at once? I felt very little connection to things that I needed to be in order for everything to flow. But let's focus for a second on Luke being gone. Why would this guy Ren want to go try and stir up a hornet's nest which is essentially what he is doing. Seems like he could destroy the Rebels...oh sorry my bad...Resistance and then when he mastered the dark side he could hunt down Luke and tell him he killed everyone he ever cared about.

Solo Jr had the galaxy pretty much to himself but he decides to go wake the dead and now has the most powerful Jedi in the universe who will be hunting him instead. Brilliant!

1. Did you care about Alderaan in ANH when it was destroyed? Never heard of it till right then, and didn't even see anyone die on the planet.

2. The movie started with someone giving the Resistance the puzzle piece to find Luke. That's what Ren was after, so the Resistance didn't get to him first. He didn't go looking for him out of the blue. Did you even watch the movie you're criticizing?

In the 1st one we have Cushing and Vader doing a sandwich/gangbang on Leia and it had more intensity to it. Also we had Sir Alec fall to one knee almost and talk about millions of voices being silenced...this didn't have that element to it.

It seemed like the Resistance already had a good chunk of the map. Shame they haven't developed software capable of filling in the blank or projecting the most likely path.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

SW is not Sci Fi.

Documentary?

 

[Daywalker]

And what do they have Finn, the only black character in the entire film I could find, what do they have his profession within the First Order?

JANITORIAL SERVICES!!!

You can't make this stuff up. Let's make him the custodian.

Star Wars

Janitor to Jedi

Hadn't thought about that but that is almost Jar Jar steps in poop bad.

Going with an interracial romance is a big deal with a global movie like this.

 

[flysack]

MOP sure does bring the fun, doesn't he?

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

I didn't expect it to be essentially a remake of a new hope

It was entertaining enough, I suppose, but I wish it hadn't been the exact same movie.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

SW is not Sci Fi.

Documentary?

Fantasy

 

[Ministry of Pain]

So Kylo Ren learned from Luke but couldn't tackle big bad Finn and Rey from the boys n girls club?

And now he is going to go kill Luke?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

SW is not Sci Fi.

Documentary?

Fantasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq09UkPRdFY

 

[flysack]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

SW is not Sci Fi.

Documentary?

Fantasy

Sway me to agree with this.

Let's say I want to believe.

 

[dparker713]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

SW is not Sci Fi.

Documentary?

Fantasy

Sway me to agree with this.

Its about wizards. They just happen to be in space.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

SW is not Sci Fi.

Documentary?

Fantasy

Sway me to agree with this.

Its about wizards. They just happen to be in space.

Sci fi by definition is based on science. There is very little science in Star Wars. It is much more correctly classified as a fantasy as you said.

Star Trek = Sci Fi

Star Wars = Fantasy

Firefly = Western

Just because a show is based in space does not always mean it is sci fi.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

SW is not Sci Fi.

Documentary?

Fantasy

Sway me to agree with this.

Its about wizards. They just happen to be in space.

Well...yeah.

 

[skol asylum]

Thinking back to JJ and the way he tells of being asked to do the movie, he's says Kennedy asked him a question and he was hooked immediately to doing SW. The simple question she asked was "who is Luke Skywalker?". It's weird considering we see him for about :45 seconds in the one he directed, but also telling in that the next two will focus mainly on him, and what had happened to him.

At his center, the Star Wars saga has been about the Skywalker family with Luke the focal point. Given his age he's no longer in position probably to fight valiantly to save the galaxy anymore which would mean it would be left to someone else in his family. I doubt the next two films are about Kylo suddenly turning good so that leaves Rey to be revealed as Luke's daughter and the new savior of the galaxy.

It's not. The first six were about Anakin and his fall and subsequent return to the light side. "Return of the Jedi" is referring to Anakin.(as much as its referring to Luke)

I don't consider the prequels Star Wars films. It ensures I enjoy everything much more by doing it that way. I think the first three films are clearly about Luke at their core. Not dismissing what Vader does at the end but in my opinion it's about Luke growing up and becoming a man (i.e. Jedi). It's his story. I'm guessing Abrams would agree and if so it's likely a Skywalker will remain front and center going forward. Kylo is a Solo so that leaves us with ...

Rey.

Unless you think Luke was gettin some Jungle Fever action and Finn is really his kid. Which would be a pretty cool plot twist.

Maybe Finn is Lando and Leia's son.

 

[Billy Bats]

Another thing that bugged me, Hosnian Prime. I've read now that it was 4 moons destroyed along with it so the visuals of 5 planets that close don't bother me. However, without the back story from the novel, why would I ever care about this planet? Never been mentioned before. No mention of the Senate being moved there. I just assumed coruscant was still the capital since most of the galactic economy runs through it. Instead we get a planet and its moons with humanoid people on it being destroyed for a republic we know about by an offhand comment from the bad guys. Who cares. Had they actually destroyed coruscant, a planet we've seen, then we'd have some take on how serious the first order is. For all we know they just destroyed some hick world in the middle of the podunk system. Congratulations. Glad you shot your one load on that first order. Hope the resources you wasted on it were worth it.

You know, I just saw the movie today, really enjoyed it, and I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. This really bothered you? Seriously?

Did you cry when they blew up 4 planets at once? I felt very little connection to things that I needed to be in order for everything to flow. But let's focus for a second on Luke being gone. Why would this guy Ren want to go try and stir up a hornet's nest which is essentially what he is doing. Seems like he could destroy the Rebels...oh sorry my bad...Resistance and then when he mastered the dark side he could hunt down Luke and tell him he killed everyone he ever cared about.

Solo Jr had the galaxy pretty much to himself but he decides to go wake the dead and now has the most powerful Jedi in the universe who will be hunting him instead. Brilliant!

Well you didn't understand that point. Snoke was in a race against Leia and the resistance to find him first and the resistance was closer at the start of the movie. The first order wants him dead so there is absolutely no Jedi left to ever challenge them. Knowing that they'll have a bigger fight if Luke is found, and their free reign over the Galaxy challenged, they had to find him first, and destroy the last possible remaining threat. The rush to find Luke, if at all, was hastened by the resistance being so close to finding him.

 

[Insein]

Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness are not campy. Part of the appeal in the first one was the seriousness these guys could inject into a Sci Fi script. Guardians of the Galaxy is campy and makes no apologies but Star Wars not so much IMHO.

SW is not Sci Fi.

Documentary?

Fantasy

Sway me to agree with this.

Let's say I want to believe.

He's actually correct. Star wars has more fantasy elements than Sci Fi.

 

[Insein]

Thinking back to JJ and the way he tells of being asked to do the movie, he's says Kennedy asked him a question and he was hooked immediately to doing SW. The simple question she asked was "who is Luke Skywalker?". It's weird considering we see him for about :45 seconds in the one he directed, but also telling in that the next two will focus mainly on him, and what had happened to him.

At his center, the Star Wars saga has been about the Skywalker family with Luke the focal point. Given his age he's no longer in position probably to fight valiantly to save the galaxy anymore which would mean it would be left to someone else in his family. I doubt the next two films are about Kylo suddenly turning good so that leaves Rey to be revealed as Luke's daughter and the new savior of the galaxy.

It's not. The first six were about Anakin and his fall and subsequent return to the light side. "Return of the Jedi" is referring to Anakin.(as much as its referring to Luke)

I don't consider the prequels Star Wars films. It ensures I enjoy everything much more by doing it that way. I think the first three films are clearly about Luke at their core. Not dismissing what Vader does at the end but in my opinion it's about Luke growing up and becoming a man (i.e. Jedi). It's his story. I'm guessing Abrams would agree and if so it's likely a Skywalker will remain front and center going forward. Kylo is a Solo so that leaves us with ...

Rey.

Unless you think Luke was gettin some Jungle Fever action and Finn is really his kid. Which would be a pretty cool plot twist.

Maybe Finn is Lando and Leia's son.

We've covered this. Leia is the mother to the whole next generation.

 

[AAABatteries]

I forgot how nice it was when MOP didn't post.

 

[snogger]

Thanks to MOP and my wanting to get by the I may have missed if someone linked this story:

Star Wars: The Force Awakens: Gruesome Chewbacca Scene Cut From Film

The novelisation of ‘The Force Awakens’ contains a scene where Chewie protects Rey from the scrap dealer she ‘borrowed’ the Millennium Falcon off named Unkar Plutt (the uncredited character played by Simon Pegg).

Remember Han warning C-3PO something about ripping one’s arms out of one’s sockets? Well that’s what we finally get to see!

Can't wait for the extended DVD cut

 

[KarmaPolice]

So Kylo Ren learned from Luke but couldn't tackle big bad Finn and Rey from the boys n girls club?

And now he is going to go kill Luke?

This has been covered to death. You just disagree.

 

[Hang 10]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

Critics loved it but the top user reviews at IMDB are pretty harsh. I have a feeling time will not be kind to this movie.

 

[AAABatteries]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

Critics loved it but the top user reviews at IMDB are pretty harsh. I have a feeling time will not be kind to this movie.

I know I typically base my enjoyment of a movie on what sonofhades, FabledGentleman and gogoschka-1 think of it. It's a shame too, I had such high hopes.

 

[Hang 10]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

Critics loved it but the top user reviews at IMDB are pretty harsh. I have a feeling time will not be kind to this movie.

I know I typically base my enjoyment of a movie on what sonofhades, FabledGentleman and gogoschka-1 think of it. It's a shame too, I had such high hopes.

Hey, it's alright. You're still allowed to like it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

Critics loved it but the top user reviews at IMDB are pretty harsh. I have a feeling time will not be kind to this movie.

I cannot imagine most guys on this board watching the new Star Wars again and again. I would like to see it on an IMax 3D just to see it one more time with perhaps added efx. But the story isn't going to change much.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Where Rey is getting the storm trooper to leave the room, the campy line where she asks him to drop his weapon...all he had to do was drop his weapon but instead JJ has him repeat the line back to her and the joke falls flat.

That is space camp folks and it's not something you saw much of if at all in the 1st 3 films. Usually C3PO and R2D2 handle a lot of the comedy relief but of course like Luke they are nowhere to be seen.

 

[Rick James]

Where Rey is getting the storm trooper to leave the room, the campy line where she asks him to drop his weapon...all he had to do was drop his weapon but instead JJ has him repeat the line back to her and the joke falls flat.

That is space camp folks and it's not something you saw much of if at all in the 1st 3 films. Usually C3PO and R2D2 handle a lot of the comedy relief but of course like Luke they are nowhere to be seen.

You're 100% wrong. Go youtube all of the instances where someone uses the "Jedi mind trick". The victim always repeats whatever the jedi says.

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

death sticks