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Start-up Dynasty & Rookie Dynasty Draft Links (1 Viewer)

I did the averages here.1 Peterson 1.1

2 Johnson 2.3

3 Lynch 2.7

4 Russell 4.9

5 Jackson 5.8

6 Bush 8.1

7 Meachem 8.3

8 Quinn 8.7

9 Bowe 8.9

10 Jarrett 11.6

11 Ginn 11.6

12 Henry 12.0

13 Darby 12.0 <--- (He was only drafted in one of these drafts, at #12. Dont be misleaded.)

14 Irons 12.3

15 Rice 12.4

16 Gonzalez 13.3

17 Booker 17.8

18 Willis 18.6

19 Hunt 18.7

20 Smith 18.8

21 Davis 21.0

22 Leonard 21.3

23 Posluszny 21.8

24 Olsen 22.4

25 Adams 23.3

26 Stanton 23.4

27 Wolfe 23.7

28 Beason 24.6

29 Beck 24.8

30 Timmons 25.0

31 Hill 26.0

32 Pittman 26.7

33 Allison 27.0

34 Landry 27.3

35 Miller 28.0

36 Jac. Jones 28.5

37 Bradshaw 29.0

38 Wright 29.5

39 Higgins 34.3

40 Weddle 36.0

41 Hall 36.0

42 Buster Davis 36.0

43 Meriweather 37.0

44 Pa. Williams 37.0

45 Wynn 37.5

46 Jam. Anderson 38.0

47 M. Walker 39.0

48 Piscitelli 40.0

49 D. Harris 41.0

50 Kolb 43.0

51 Spencer 44.0

52 Waters 45.0

53 Hughes 46.0

54 T. Smith 47.0

55 Ross 48.0

56 Q. Black 50.0

57 Crosby 53.0

58 Moss 54.0

59 Nelson 55.0

60 Durant 56.0

61 Nicholas 57.0

62 K. Smith 58.0

63 L. Robinson 59.0
Peterson's ADP in a dynasty redraft is 1.01 over LT ? :yes:
:goodposting: even more :mellow: with the screenname...

 
Updated averages of that set of Zealot rookie drafts... I can stop posting them. Was doing this for personal info really... trying to get a gauge on things.

Peterson 1.1

Johnson 2.3

Lynch 2.7

Russell 4.9

Jackson 5.8

Bush 8.1

Meachem 8.6

Quinn 8.7

Bowe 8.9

Jarrett 11.6

Henry 12.0

Rice 12.4

Irons 12.8

Ginn 13.0

Gonzalez 13.4

Willis 18.1

Hunt 19.1

Smith 19.8

Booker 19.9

Cra. Davis 21.0

Posluszny 22.3

Olsen 22.6

Stanton 23.4

Leonard 25.2

Beason 25.8

Beck 26.0

Hill 27.8

Adams 28.1

Timmons 28.2

Pittman 28.4

Landry 28.4

Miller 28.5

Okwo 31.5

Wolfe 32.3

Jac. Jones 32.8

Okoye 33.0

Allison 35.8

Higgins 36.0

Jam. Anderson 36.4

Darby 37.3

Kolb 38.0

Spencer 39.3

Wright 40.2

D. Harris 40.5

Edwards 41.8

Breaston 42.0

Buster Davis 42.5

Weddle 42.7

Pa. Williams 43.2

Meriweather 43.3

Piscitelli 45.8

Hughes 46.0

T. Smith 46.0

J. Moss 46.7

Bradshaw 46.8

L. Robinson 46.8

Nelson 47.0

K. Smith 47.3

Wynn 47.8

Ross 48.0

D. Ball 48.0

Walker 49.0

Alexander 49.0

Q. Black 50.0

Durant 50.3

Hall 50.5

S. Bradley 51.0

Waters 53.0

Clayton 54.0

Griffin 55.0

Ah You 55.0

Harsiton 55.0

Crosby 57.0

Nicholas 57.0

C. Taylor 60.0

James Jones 60.0

Carriker 60.5

Revis 61.0

Battle 62.0

Filani 62.0

Figurs 63.0

T. Moss 64.0

Ch. Davis 64.0

Stanback 67.0

Patrick 69.0

Blades 72.0

 
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You have Peterson at an ADP of 1.01 and Calvin at 2.03? Are you sure you don't have the 1.01 ADP spot wrong for Peterson? I could see 1.07 or 1.11 but not 1.01?

 
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You have Peterson at an ADP of 1.01 and Calvin at 2.03? Are you sure you don't have the 1.01 ADP spot wrong for Peterson? I could see 1.07 or 1.11 but not 1.01?
The link is for a series of drafts (zealots) that are rookie only. they are not start-up dynasty leagues.
 
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the number next to the player is the average pick number.

1 is the 1st pick

2 is the 2nd pick

need I go on?

this is for rookie drafts only.

 
You have Peterson at an ADP of 1.01 and Calvin at 2.03? Are you sure you don't have the 1.01 ADP spot wrong for Peterson? I could see 1.07 or 1.11 but not 1.01?
Actually, he has Peterson at 1.1 and Calvin at 2.3. It's just rookies. No vets.

Everyone has gotten averaged out. In other words, lets say there was 3 drafts, and Peterson went at #1 in two of them, and #2 in the other one. His average is 1.3, you see. Not 3rd pick in the first round but actually 1.3.

2.3 is NOT the 2nd round, 3th pick. It means if you average out CJ's position, it falls in between the 2nd and third pick, closer to the 2rd pick.

You could also click on any of those links provided, shouldn't take too long to realize that no vets are being drafted.

 
I assume he picked ROCKET as his FBG ID because GENIUS was already taken?
this is what I was thinking as well. he made me go back and reread everything I typed to make sure I didn't mess something up. i thought it was pretty self explanatory as well.
 
This was a rookie draft of a 16 team dynasty league, with IDP's. Standard scoring, 6 points per TDs. My picks/moves are in bold.

1.01 1 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB ®

1.02 2 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB ®

1.03 3 Johnson, Calvin DET WR ®

1.04 4 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB ®

1.05 5 Jackson, Brandon GBP RB ®

1.06 6 Henry, Chris TEN RB ®

1.07 7 Bush, Michael OAK RB ®

1.08 8 Quinn, Brady CLE QB ®

1.09 9 Meachem, Robert NOS WR ®

1.10 10 Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR ®

1.11 11 Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR ®

1.12 12 Rice, Sidney MIN WR ®

1.13 13 Irons, Kenny CIN RB ®

1.14 14 Willis, Patrick SFO LB ®

1.15 15 Jarrett, Dwayne CAR WR ®

1.16 16 Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR ®

2.01 17 Beck, John MIA QB ®

2.02 18 Landry, LaRon WAS S ®

2.03 19 Stanton, Drew DET QB ®

2.04 20 Hunt, Tony PHI RB ®

2.05 21 Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB ®

2.06 22 Smith, Steve NYG WR ® Traded out of this spot when on the clock for a 1st in 08

2.07 23 Davis, Craig SDC WR ®

2.08 24 Hill, Jason SFO WR ®

2.09 25 Posluszny, Paul BUF LB ®

2.10 26 Timmons, Lawrence PIT LB ®

2.11 27 Beason, Jon CAR LB ®

2.12 28 Jones, Jacoby HOU WR ®

2.13 29 Leonard, Brian STL RB ®

2.14 30 Kolb, Kevin PHI QB ®

2.15 31 Miller, Zach OAK TE ®

2.16 32 Pittman, Antonio NOS RB ®

3.01 33 Adams, Gaines TBB DE ® Traded out of this spot when on the clock for a 2nd in 08.

3.02 34 Anderson, Jamaal ATL DE ®

3.03 35 Olsen, Greg CHI TE ®

3.04 36 Higgins, Johnnie Lee OAK WR ®

3.05 37 Durant, Justin JAC LB ®

3.06 38 Crowder, Tim DEN DE ®

3.07 39 Clayton, Thomas SFO RB ®

3.08 40 Harris, David NYJ LB ®

3.09 41 Young, Usama NOS CB ®

3.10 42 Allison, Aundrae MIN WR ®

3.11 43 Smith, Troy BAL QB ®

3.12 44 Spencer, Anthony DAL DE ®

3.13 45 Williams, Paul TEN WR ®

3.14 46 Edwards, Trent BUF QB ®

3.15 47 Wright, Dwayne BUF RB ®

3.16 48 Clowney, David GBP WR ®

4.01 49 Rouse, Aaron GBP S ®

4.02 50 Carriker, Adam STL DE ®

4.03 51 Jones, James GBP WR ®

4.04 52 Davis, Buster ARI LB ®

4.05 53 Siler, Brandon SDC LB ®

4.06 54 Okwo, Michael CHI LB ®

4.07 55 Moses, Quentin OAK DE ®

4.08 56 Bradley, Stewart PHI LB ®

4.09 57 Medlock, Justin KCC PK ®

4.10 58 Meriweather, Brandon NEP S ®

4.11 59 Adkisson, James OAK TE

4.12 60 Moss, Jarvis DEN DE ®

4.13 61 Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB ®

4.14 62 Nicholas, Stephen ATL LB ®

4.15 63 Smith, Kolby KCC RB ®

4.16 64 Weddle, Eric SDC S ®

5.01 65 Payne, Kevin CHI S ®

5.02 66 Wolfe, Garrett CHI RB ®

5.03 67 Griffin, Michael TEN S ®

5.04 68 Piscitelli, Sabby TBB S ®

5.05 69 Woodley, LaMarr PIT DE ®

5.06 70 Wynn, DeShawn GBP RB ®

5.07 71 Waters, Anthony SDC LB ®

5.08 72 Robertson, Dewayne NYJ DT

5.09 73 Darby, Kenneth TBB RB ®

5.10 74 Nelson, Reggie JAC S ®

5.11 75 Davis, Chris TEN WR ®

5.12 76 Timer Expired

5.13 77 Timer Expired

5.14 78 Alcorn, Zac GBP TE

5.15 79 Timer Expired

5.16 80 Alexander, Gerald DET S ®

 
I assume he picked ROCKET as his FBG ID because GENIUS was already taken?
this is what I was thinking as well. he made me go back and reread everything I typed to make sure I didn't mess something up. i thought it was pretty self explanatory as well.
I knew it was a rookie draft and wtf breaks down ADP into decimals? That's ####ing ridiculous. 1.03 and 2.03 mean 3rd pick 1st round and 3rd pick 2nd round to 99% of the fantasy sites I've ever seen. Why don't you just go and break it down further and say Peterson is the consensus 1.037775 pick and CJ is 2.036666 ? Gee' I'm sure all you calculus guru's have a leg up on the average drafter after calculating ADP into deicmals. It never fails to amaze me how people think useless information like that gives them some type of advantage. Why don't you put it all on some spreadheets too while you're at it. :shrug:
 
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I assume he picked ROCKET as his FBG ID because GENIUS was already taken?
this is what I was thinking as well. he made me go back and reread everything I typed to make sure I didn't mess something up. i thought it was pretty self explanatory as well.
I knew it was a rookie draft and wtf breaks down ADP into decimals? That's ####ing ridiculous. 1.03 and 2.03 mean 3rd pick 1st round and 3rd pick 2nd round to 99% of the fantasy sites I've ever seen. Why don't you just go and break it down further and say Peterson is the consensus 1.037775 pick and CJ is 2.036666 ? Gee' I'm sure all you calculus guru's have a leg up on the average drafter after calculating ADP into deicmals. It never fails to amaze me how people think useless information like that gives them some type of advantage. Why don't you put it all on some spreadheets too while you're at it. :boxing:
Gidday ROCKET :) Decimals? Check, just keep them to two otherwise I get too enamoured of all the pretty numbers if I extend them out to five or more.Spreadsheets? Check, use them for everything. Perhaps I chould start to chart how many times I visit this thread?Ridiculous? Check, according to you. You'll have to forgive me cos I'm sort of new at this FF caper having only been active for a decade. Plus, as one of those damn foreigners I really don't understand how the NFL and FF works either.Apology? Nup, if ya can't handle a little yanking on your chain that ain't my problem.Cheers mate, have a good one. I'll have a drink for ya. :doh:
 
Updated averages of that set of Zealot rookie drafts... I can stop posting them. Was doing this for personal info really... trying to get a gauge on things.

Peterson 1.1

Johnson 2.3

Lynch 2.7

Russell 4.9

Jackson 5.8

Bush 8.1

Meachem 8.6

Quinn 8.7

Bowe 8.9

Jarrett 11.6

Henry 12.0

Rice 12.4

Irons 12.8

Ginn 13.0

Gonzalez 13.4

Willis 18.1

Hunt 19.1

Smith 19.8

Booker 19.9

Cra. Davis 21.0

Posluszny 22.3

Olsen 22.6

Stanton 23.4

Leonard 25.2

Beason 25.8

Beck 26.0

Hill 27.8

Adams 28.1

Timmons 28.2

Pittman 28.4

Landry 28.4

Miller 28.5

Okwo 31.5

Wolfe 32.3

Jac. Jones 32.8

Okoye 33.0

Allison 35.8

Higgins 36.0

Jam. Anderson 36.4

Darby 37.3

Kolb 38.0

Spencer 39.3

Wright 40.2

D. Harris 40.5

Edwards 41.8

Breaston 42.0

Buster Davis 42.5

Weddle 42.7

Pa. Williams 43.2

Meriweather 43.3

Piscitelli 45.8

Hughes 46.0

T. Smith 46.0

J. Moss 46.7

Bradshaw 46.8

L. Robinson 46.8

Nelson 47.0

K. Smith 47.3

Wynn 47.8

Ross 48.0

D. Ball 48.0

Walker 49.0

Alexander 49.0

Q. Black 50.0

Durant 50.3

Hall 50.5

S. Bradley 51.0

Waters 53.0

Clayton 54.0

Griffin 55.0

Ah You 55.0

Harsiton 55.0

Crosby 57.0

Nicholas 57.0

C. Taylor 60.0

James Jones 60.0

Carriker 60.5

Revis 61.0

Battle 62.0

Filani 62.0

Figurs 63.0

T. Moss 64.0

Ch. Davis 64.0

Stanback 67.0

Patrick 69.0

Blades 72.0
ROCKET...this is for you, buddythe "ADP" for these players is signifigant because you can "see" by the ADP exactly how these guys are going, on avg.

For example, CJohnson is 2.3 and Lynch is 2.7

So Peterson goes first in virtually every draft, then in 70% of the drafts CJ goes 2nd(2.3) and 30% Lynch goes 2nd(2.7)...does this make sense?

Then when you get to the grouping of Bush, Meachem, Quinn and Bowe, they become almost interchangeable...ADP's between 8.1-8.9

hopefully this explains it to you in a way you'll understand--for those of us in dynasty drafts holding a particular pick, this kind of info helps determine who we might get w/that pick, and what we'd have to do to move up to get a guy we have a strong positive opinion about

...carry on!

 
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I assume he picked ROCKET as his FBG ID because GENIUS was already taken?
this is what I was thinking as well. he made me go back and reread everything I typed to make sure I didn't mess something up. i thought it was pretty self explanatory as well.
I knew it was a rookie draft and wtf breaks down ADP into decimals?
Really? You know it was a rookie draft? This post doesn't seem to imply that:
You have Peterson at an ADP of 1.01 and Calvin at 2.03? Are you sure you don't have the 1.01 ADP spot wrong for Peterson? I could see 1.07 or 1.11 but not 1.01?
 
Updated averages of that set of Zealot rookie drafts... I can stop posting them. Was doing this for personal info really... trying to get a gauge on things.

Peterson 1.1

Johnson 2.3

Lynch 2.7

Russell 4.9

Jackson 5.8

Bush 8.1

Meachem 8.6

Quinn 8.7

Bowe 8.9

Jarrett 11.6

Henry 12.0

Rice 12.4

Irons 12.8

Ginn 13.0

Gonzalez 13.4

Willis 18.1

Hunt 19.1

Smith 19.8

Booker 19.9

Cra. Davis 21.0

Posluszny 22.3

Olsen 22.6

Stanton 23.4

Leonard 25.2

Beason 25.8

Beck 26.0

Hill 27.8

Adams 28.1

Timmons 28.2

Pittman 28.4

Landry 28.4

Miller 28.5

Okwo 31.5

Wolfe 32.3

Jac. Jones 32.8

Okoye 33.0

Allison 35.8

Higgins 36.0

Jam. Anderson 36.4

Darby 37.3

Kolb 38.0

Spencer 39.3

Wright 40.2

D. Harris 40.5

Edwards 41.8

Breaston 42.0

Buster Davis 42.5

Weddle 42.7

Pa. Williams 43.2

Meriweather 43.3

Piscitelli 45.8

Hughes 46.0

T. Smith 46.0

J. Moss 46.7

Bradshaw 46.8

L. Robinson 46.8

Nelson 47.0

K. Smith 47.3

Wynn 47.8

Ross 48.0

D. Ball 48.0

Walker 49.0

Alexander 49.0

Q. Black 50.0

Durant 50.3

Hall 50.5

S. Bradley 51.0

Waters 53.0

Clayton 54.0

Griffin 55.0

Ah You 55.0

Harsiton 55.0

Crosby 57.0

Nicholas 57.0

C. Taylor 60.0

James Jones 60.0

Carriker 60.5

Revis 61.0

Battle 62.0

Filani 62.0

Figurs 63.0

T. Moss 64.0

Ch. Davis 64.0

Stanback 67.0

Patrick 69.0

Blades 72.0
ROCKET...this is for you, buddythe "ADP" for these players is signifigant because you can "see" by the ADP exactly how these guys are going, on avg.

For example, CJohnson is 2.3 and Lynch is 2.7

So Peterson goes first in virtually every draft, then in 70% of the drafts CJ goes 2nd(2.3) and 30% Lynch goes 2nd(2.7)...does this make sense?

Then when you get to the grouping of Bush, Meachem, Quinn and Bowe, they become almost interchangeable...ADP's between 8.1-8.9

hopefully this explains it to you in a way you'll understand--for those of us in dynasty drafts holding a particular pick, this kind of info helps determine who we might get w/that pick, and what we'd have to do to move up to get a guy we have a strong positive opinion about

...carry on!
I understand the concept, I just think it's useless. Example, let's say I draft 1.03 in a rookie draft. ADP's for Peterson , Johnson and Lynch are 1.01, 1.02 and 1.03. I pretty much will be waiting for either Johnson or Lynch at 1.03. If I knew the ADP's were 1.03, 2.03 and 2.07 I'd be in the same situation. I don't need to see any more than a normal ADP cheatsheet to pretty much figure where players will go. Breaking it down further isn't an advantage.You never know where players are going to come off the board, there are always some anomalies along the way. If you want to break down the averages further then knock yourself out. Just realize you have zero advantage over anyone who just looks at a normal ADP list and possibly zero advantage over someone with no ADP list at all. Some people think they have some upper hand by all these spreadsheets, and endless # crunching. I say bs, anyone that follows football can be just as competent without all that garbage. It's fantasy football not nuclear physics.

 
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If you are sitting somewhere in the top 3, then this list of averages SHOULD be pretty pointless to you.

I use the list to break down picks into blocks of players that are valued in a certain range, in this case rounds.

You mentioned something once earlier in this thread about being able to see Adrian Peterson at 1.07 or 1.11, but not 1.01. you sure you arent confused and think this is a start up dynasty draft analysis?

my guess is you lived under power lines. leave me and my spreadsheet alone.

 
now that i have that damn spreadsheet guilt off my conscious, i have another guilty admission.

dont tell anyone though.

i also do mock drafts, where I "pretend" to be other managers in my league and select players I "think" they might take according to their needs.

i feel better now, thanks. back to crunching numbers!

 
now that i have that damn spreadsheet guilt off my conscious, i have another guilty admission.dont tell anyone though.i also do mock drafts, where I "pretend" to be other managers in my league and select players I "think" they might take according to their needs. i feel better now, thanks. back to crunching numbers!
First of all, have you considered therapy? Do you spend every waking hour trying to predict how your dynasty draft might unfold? I have a surprise, when you get by the top half of round one some of your owners are going to take lots of players nowhere near your projected range. What then? Will you just improvise and realize there wasn't really a hell of a lot of difference between the 15.05 rated guy and the 23.9 rated guy? :confused: As far as my thinking you had Peterson ranked at 1.01 and CJ at 2.03 yes I thought you must have had him confused with possibly 1.07 figuring it must have been for a redraft. Then low and behold I see a few supposed die-hard fantasy fans here (like they are more diehard than some guy who has a life and doesn't spend all day masterminding his fantasy rookie draft) actually go to the trouble of breaking a simple ADP list down to decimals. What's next, you'll start graphing the average points historically scored by a rookie from USC as opposed to Georgia, Auburn and Michigan or maybe do a pie chart on production of past rookies by their zodiac signs? Maybe we can gain access into Google and use their systems to process all the valuable info.. If you throw that info. in along with your theory of ADP relativity you should be a lock to win that elusive title which has been your life's calling. The rest of us will just throw together a basic cheatsheet based on need, check out other teams' needs and tendancies ( oh yeah big Joe is a diehard Georgia Tech fan) maybe check out a few rookie drafts to get a feel for where players are going. Then we'll go to the fridge, have a few beers and go to bed while you're up all night crunching for your rookie draft finals. I'm thru, have a nice day. :lmao:
 
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now that i have that damn spreadsheet guilt off my conscious, i have another guilty admission.dont tell anyone though.i also do mock drafts, where I "pretend" to be other managers in my league and select players I "think" they might take according to their needs. i feel better now, thanks. back to crunching numbers!
First of all, have you considered therapy? Do you spend every waking hour trying to predict how your dynasty draft might unfold? I have a surprise, when you get by the top half of round one some of your owners are going to take lots of players nowhere near your projected range. What then? Will you just improvise and realize there wasn't really a hell of a lot of difference between the 15.05 rated guy and the 23.9 rated guy? :confused: As far as my thinking you had Peterson ranked at 1.01 and CJ at 2.03 yes I thought you must have had him confused with possibly 1.07 figuring it must have been for a redraft. Then low and behold I see a few supposed die-hard fantasy fans here (like they are more diehard than some guy who has a life and doesn't spend all day masterminding his fantasy rookie draft) actually go to the trouble of breaking a simple ADP list down to decimals. What's next, you'll start graphing the average points historically scored by a rookie from USC as opposed to Georgia, Auburn and Michigan or maybe do a pie chart on production of past rookies by their zodiac signs? Maybe we can gain access into Google and use their systems to process all the valuable info.. If you throw that info. in along with your theory of ADP relativity you should be a lock to win that elusive title which has been your life's calling. The rest of us will just throw together a basic cheatsheet based on need, check out other teams' needs and tendancies ( oh yeah big Joe is a diehard Georgia Tech fan) maybe check out a few rookie drafts to get a feel for where players are going. Then we'll go to the fridge, have a few beers and go to bed while you're up all night crunching for your rookie draft finals. I'm thru, have a nice day. :lmao:
GB people coming to a fantasy football forum and making fun of people for being into fantasy football.Feel free to move on dude.
 
The rest of us will just throw together a basic cheatsheet based on need, check out other teams' needs and tendancies ( oh yeah big Joe is a diehard Georgia Tech fan) maybe check out a few rookie drafts to get a feel for where players are going. Then we'll go to the fridge, have a few beers and go to bed while you're up all night crunching for your rookie draft finals. I'm thru, have a nice day. :popcorn:
It's OK, man. You're a little embarrassed that you misunderstood the ADP numbers. No biggie. And I know, you felt committed because you had already pulled out the :lmao: smiley, more than once. So rather than pull out the :bag: smiley, you just explained it all away that you are far too busy/cool to bother with it.None of us are buying it, but I understand where you're coming from.
 
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http://football18.myfantasyleague.com/2007...=43257&O=17

Zealots 16 just completed its rookie draft so thought I would post up for all of you.
by the way, here are some updated numbers of those Zealots drafts and the one above figured in as well. :popcorn: Peterson 1.1

Johnson 2.3

Lynch 2.7

Russell 4.8

Jackson 5.9

Meachem 8.2

Bush 8.3

Bowe 8.6

Quinn 8.7

Jarrett 11.6

Henry 11.6

Rice 12.3

Irons 12.9

Ginn 13.0

Gonzalez 13.9

Willis 17.9

Hunt 18.9

Booker 20.8

Olsen 21.6

Posluszny 21.8

Cra. Davis 22.1

Smith 22.4

Stanton 23.4

Beason 26.4

Beck 27.2

Leonard 28.3

Landry 28.4

Adams 29.2

Hill 29.5

Pittman 30.4

Miller 31.4

Timmons 32.4

Jac. Jones 32.7

Wolfe 33.8

Higgins 36.8

Allison 38.1

Wright 38.2

Jam. Anderson 38.5

Darby 40.0

D. Harris 40.8

Kolb 41.3

Meriweather 42.5

T. Smith 42.5

Spencer 43.8

Pa. Williams 43.8

Weddle 45.8

Breaston 46.0

Hughes 46.0

L. Robinson 46.8

Piscitelli 46.8

K. Smith 46.9

Edwards 46.9

Okoye 47.5

Bradshaw 48.0

Ross 48.0

D. Ball 48.0

Okwo 48.6

Buster Davis 49.0

Alexander 49.0

Naanee 49.0

Crosby 49.5

Wynn 50.0

J. Moss 50.2

Nelson 50.6

S. Bradley 51.0

Durant 52.6

Waters 53.0

Rouse 53.0

Carriker 53.6

Clayton 54.0

Walker 54.1

Griffin 55.0

Ah You 55.0

Hall 55.7

Clowney 56.0

Cha. Johnson 56.0

Clark Harris 56.0

James Jones 57.3

Patrick 57.5

Woodley 58.0

C. Taylor 60.0

Harsiton 60.5

Q. Black 61.3

Nicholas 61.5

Battle 62.0

Moses 62.5

Figurs 63.0

T. Moss 64.0

Ch. Davis 64.0

Eric Wright 64.0

Revis 64.3

J. Baldwin 65.0

Session 65.5

Filani 66.0

Stanback 66.0

Darche 67.0

DeOssie 68.0

Blades 69.5

 
"Dude", I'm as avid a FF person as any so don't start with that bs. I stand by my arguement that breaking down ADP's into decimals does nothing for anyone's football intellect or success. You can be just as informed with a simple standard ADP list. There are many forms of usefull analysis (crank scores, etc.) but that isn't one of them.

And yes, I guess I'm guilty of laughing at some of the ridiculous ways people think they are putting themselves ahead of the pack. If you choose to go that route than knock yourself out but don't tout yourself as being superior to someone who doesn't value it.

 
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Take any arguments to PM. Nobody wants to surf through pages of a dumb argument to find draft links that they are looking for.

Thanks to those that are adding links. Very helpful!

 
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Fair enough.Don't tout yourself and your methods as being superior to someone who does value it.
I have'nt touted any methods aside from saying a crank score is a good tool to determine value when drafting. He did with his ADP system after I asked him what the hell it was and what good it was in determing draft position. Why would a rational fantasy player find the need to expand an ADP list to decimals? It has zero value over a standard ADP list. I already stated that aside from the top few picks ADP is only a way of getting a ROUGH idea of where players will be taken. There is just way too many variables in a draft and narrowing down ADP further doesn't pin point accuracy any more or give anyone an advantage. It's great to have a personal mock as to where players will go in a given league but narrowing ADP decimals does nothing to achieve that. So where is the advantage?
 
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The rest of us will just throw together a basic cheatsheet based on need, check out other teams' needs and tendancies ( oh yeah big Joe is a diehard Georgia Tech fan) maybe check out a few rookie drafts to get a feel for where players are going. Then we'll go to the fridge, have a few beers and go to bed while you're up all night crunching for your rookie draft finals. I'm thru, have a nice day. :(
It's OK, man. You're a little embarrassed that you misunderstood the ADP numbers. No biggie. And I know, you felt committed because you had already pulled out the :drive: smiley, more than once. So rather than pull out the :bag: smiley, you just explained it all away that you are far too busy/cool to bother with it.None of us are buying it, but I understand where you're coming from.
:nerd: "I'm not stupid - I'm TOO COOL!"
 
"Dude", I'm as avid a FF person as any so don't start with that bs. I stand by my arguement that breaking down ADP's into decimals does nothing for anyone's football intellect or success. You can be just as informed with a simple standard ADP list. There are many forms of usefull analysis (crank scores, etc.) but that isn't one of them.
Othert than this being an overly obvious :thumbup: Joe and David should consider it an immediate bannable offense for making that statement on a website whose signiture line is "You'll know what we know"

David, Joe. Never change that attitude. It sets you apert.

 
Updated averages of that set of Zealot rookie drafts... I can stop posting them. Was doing this for personal info really... trying to get a gauge on things.

Peterson 1.1

Johnson 2.3

Lynch 2.7

Russell 4.9

Jackson 5.8

Bush 8.1

Meachem 8.6

Quinn 8.7

Bowe 8.9

Jarrett 11.6

Henry 12.0

Rice 12.4

Irons 12.8

Ginn 13.0

Gonzalez 13.4

Willis 18.1

Hunt 19.1

Smith 19.8

Booker 19.9

Cra. Davis 21.0

Posluszny 22.3

Olsen 22.6

Stanton 23.4

Leonard 25.2

Beason 25.8

Beck 26.0

Hill 27.8

Adams 28.1

Timmons 28.2

Pittman 28.4

Landry 28.4

Miller 28.5

Okwo 31.5

Wolfe 32.3

Jac. Jones 32.8

Okoye 33.0

Allison 35.8

Higgins 36.0

Jam. Anderson 36.4

Darby 37.3

Kolb 38.0

Spencer 39.3

Wright 40.2

D. Harris 40.5

Edwards 41.8

Breaston 42.0

Buster Davis 42.5

Weddle 42.7

Pa. Williams 43.2

Meriweather 43.3

Piscitelli 45.8

Hughes 46.0

T. Smith 46.0

J. Moss 46.7

Bradshaw 46.8

L. Robinson 46.8

Nelson 47.0

K. Smith 47.3

Wynn 47.8

Ross 48.0

D. Ball 48.0

Walker 49.0

Alexander 49.0

Q. Black 50.0

Durant 50.3

Hall 50.5

S. Bradley 51.0

Waters 53.0

Clayton 54.0

Griffin 55.0

Ah You 55.0

Harsiton 55.0

Crosby 57.0

Nicholas 57.0

C. Taylor 60.0

James Jones 60.0

Carriker 60.5

Revis 61.0

Battle 62.0

Filani 62.0

Figurs 63.0

T. Moss 64.0

Ch. Davis 64.0

Stanback 67.0

Patrick 69.0

Blades 72.0
ROCKET...this is for you, buddythe "ADP" for these players is signifigant because you can "see" by the ADP exactly how these guys are going, on avg.

For example, CJohnson is 2.3 and Lynch is 2.7

So Peterson goes first in virtually every draft, then in 70% of the drafts CJ goes 2nd(2.3) and 30% Lynch goes 2nd(2.7)...does this make sense?

Then when you get to the grouping of Bush, Meachem, Quinn and Bowe, they become almost interchangeable...ADP's between 8.1-8.9

hopefully this explains it to you in a way you'll understand--for those of us in dynasty drafts holding a particular pick, this kind of info helps determine who we might get w/that pick, and what we'd have to do to move up to get a guy we have a strong positive opinion about

...carry on!
I understand the concept, I just think it's useless.
the bolded portion above explains why it is usefulbut NO, ### wipe, you didn't understand the concept---you thought we were talking about ADP in redraft terms, where 2.3= round 2, pick 3

said so yourself...I tried to be decent and explain the results, as you clearly didn't grasp the concept

you had to be an ###---

:finger:

 
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Updated averages of that set of Zealot rookie drafts... I can stop posting them. Was doing this for personal info really... trying to get a gauge on things.

Peterson 1.1

Johnson 2.3

Lynch 2.7

Russell 4.9

Jackson 5.8

Bush 8.1

Meachem 8.6

Quinn 8.7

Bowe 8.9

Jarrett 11.6

Henry 12.0

Rice 12.4

Irons 12.8

Ginn 13.0

Gonzalez 13.4

Willis 18.1

Hunt 19.1

Smith 19.8

Booker 19.9

Cra. Davis 21.0

Posluszny 22.3

Olsen 22.6

Stanton 23.4

Leonard 25.2

Beason 25.8

Beck 26.0

Hill 27.8

Adams 28.1

Timmons 28.2

Pittman 28.4

Landry 28.4

Miller 28.5

Okwo 31.5

Wolfe 32.3

Jac. Jones 32.8

Okoye 33.0

Allison 35.8

Higgins 36.0

Jam. Anderson 36.4

Darby 37.3

Kolb 38.0

Spencer 39.3

Wright 40.2

D. Harris 40.5

Edwards 41.8

Breaston 42.0

Buster Davis 42.5

Weddle 42.7

Pa. Williams 43.2

Meriweather 43.3

Piscitelli 45.8

Hughes 46.0

T. Smith 46.0

J. Moss 46.7

Bradshaw 46.8

L. Robinson 46.8

Nelson 47.0

K. Smith 47.3

Wynn 47.8

Ross 48.0

D. Ball 48.0

Walker 49.0

Alexander 49.0

Q. Black 50.0

Durant 50.3

Hall 50.5

S. Bradley 51.0

Waters 53.0

Clayton 54.0

Griffin 55.0

Ah You 55.0

Harsiton 55.0

Crosby 57.0

Nicholas 57.0

C. Taylor 60.0

James Jones 60.0

Carriker 60.5

Revis 61.0

Battle 62.0

Filani 62.0

Figurs 63.0

T. Moss 64.0

Ch. Davis 64.0

Stanback 67.0

Patrick 69.0

Blades 72.0
ROCKET...this is for you, buddythe "ADP" for these players is signifigant because you can "see" by the ADP exactly how these guys are going, on avg.

For example, CJohnson is 2.3 and Lynch is 2.7

So Peterson goes first in virtually every draft, then in 70% of the drafts CJ goes 2nd(2.3) and 30% Lynch goes 2nd(2.7)...does this make sense?

Then when you get to the grouping of Bush, Meachem, Quinn and Bowe, they become almost interchangeable...ADP's between 8.1-8.9

hopefully this explains it to you in a way you'll understand--for those of us in dynasty drafts holding a particular pick, this kind of info helps determine who we might get w/that pick, and what we'd have to do to move up to get a guy we have a strong positive opinion about

...carry on!
I understand the concept, I just think it's useless.
the bolded portion above explains why it is usefulbut NO, ### wipe, you didn't understand the concept---you thought we were talking about ADP in redraft terms, where 2.3= round 2, pick 3

said so yourself...I tried to be decent and explain the results, as you clearly didn't grasp the concept

you had to be an ###---

:finger:
Guys please chill on this. Thanks.J

 
Thanks for posting all the links guys!

Do the Zealots leagues all use the same IDP scoring system? I am wondering b/c I am pretty sure my league values defensive players more than most other leagues.

Our scoring:

solo tackle: 2pts

asst: 1pt

sacks: 4 pts

1/2 sack: 2pts

PD: 2pts

INT:5pts

FF/FR: 3 pts

TIA

 
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