Starting RB in Dallas. (1 Viewer)

[PatsWillWin]

I really think Parcells days as a coach should be over , the guy is just on a power trip and that s it .He lost it

Good thing you don't own an NFL team, or are the GM of one. Your ability to judge Coaching talent is shaky, to say the least.

Explain , i am not the only one ( and by the way there are some experts out there who thinks axactly the same, the Cowboys would be a much better organization without Parcells and Jerry jones )

Has it really come to this around here? This is so brutal to read it's sickens me to be doing so. Threads like this really do hurt this site IMO. I would hope its a sign of the times and that this site is just about unbearable in season. Wow some of these threads really just make you say, get me out of here fast. Is their anything more aggravating than a thread that makes you pissed off because of its stupidity? Bye out of here..jeez.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

I really think Parcells days as a coach should be over , the guy is just on a power trip and that s it .He lost it

Good thing you don't own an NFL team, or are the GM of one. Your ability to judge Coaching talent is shaky, to say the least.

Explain , i am not the only one ( and by the way there are some experts out there who thinks axactly the same, the Cowboys would be a much better organization without Parcells and Jerry jones )

Has it really come to this around here? This is so brutal to read it's sickens me to be doing so. Threads like this really do hurt this site IMO. I would hope its a sign of the times and that this site is just about unbearable in season. Wow some of these threads really just make you say, get me out of here fast. Is their anything more aggravating than a thread that makes you pissed off because of its stupidity? Bye out of here..jeez.

Pretty funny that you said The majority of what he was talking about were your idiotic posts.

 

[Futility]

So take a guy who is starting now but may not in the future, and trade him for a guy who is not starting now and may not in the future.Good call.

For knowing so much about rb's your dynasty rb's are horrible. I'd take Barber anyday over Bell 'the flavor of the week' in Denver.GDB relying on Skeletor for anything,ever

thepont ispeopleMike Bell is the starting RB for Denver today. I share the same concerns about his long-term value as you do. I think the "shark" move (while I hate that term) is to sell high on Mike Bell, as I did in Ron Dayne.Selling high is not MBIII straight up. So when I say that you traded the starting Denver RB for the Dallas backup RB, I'm not implying that Mike Bell will remain the starting RB permanently, I'm implying that you didn't get enough for M. Bell given his current value.Let me know if you need anything else explained letter by letter, I'm happy to do it.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you've never been in a dynasty league. How much do you think most dynasty owners are going to give you for a Denver-flavor-of-the-week? Getting Barber is pretty damn good in my book.

He could've gotten more. He probably could've gotten Barber + another player/pick. It was a bad trade, even if it swings his way in the long run, because of the value he left on the table.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I really think Parcells days as a coach should be over , the guy is just on a power trip and that s it .He lost it

Good thing you don't own an NFL team, or are the GM of one. Your ability to judge Coaching talent is shaky, to say the least.

Explain , i am not the only one ( and by the way there are some experts out there who thinks axactly the same, the Cowboys would be a much better organization without Parcells and Jerry jones )

Has it really come to this around here? This is so brutal to read it's sickens me to be doing so. Threads like this really do hurt this site IMO. I would hope its a sign of the times and that this site is just about unbearable in season. Wow some of these threads really just make you say, get me out of here fast. Is their anything more aggravating than a thread that makes you pissed off because of its stupidity? Bye out of here..jeez.

Pretty funny that you said The majority of what he was talking about were your idiotic posts.

Oh yeah? He quoted a list of posts none of which were written by me, so Igo ahead and show me where you get that. Thanks a lot,Bye.

 

[PatsWillWin]

He could've gotten more. He probably could've gotten Barber + another player/pick. It was a bad trade, even if it swings his way in the long run, because of the value he left on the table.

Thank you - I don't get why this is so difficult to understand.

 

[suchislife]

He could've gotten more. He probably could've gotten Barber + another player/pick. It was a bad trade, even if it swings his way in the long run, because of the value he left on the table.

Thank you - I don't get why this is so difficult to understand.

Jets, you started by saying it was a terrible trade. Bell-for-Barber represents an upgrade. How's that terrible? I guess in any league you can find someone to go overboard for an overhyped player. But in my leagues, if I can trade a likely bust for an upgrade, I consider it a good trade.Everyone values players differently. The last 5 years have shown us that if you rely on Shanny and the Denver RB's, you have about a 75% for disappointment.Have a great season.

 

[Legion of Doom]

Let me know if you need anything else explained letter by letter, I'm happy to do it.

Cool,Let me know if you need any advice on how to draft a dynasty team

 

[Noahs Troopers]

Let me know if you need anything else explained letter by letter, I'm happy to do it.

Cool,Let me know if you need any advice on how to draft a dynasty team

 

[PatsWillWin]

Let me know if you need anything else explained letter by letter, I'm happy to do it.

Cool,Let me know if you need any advice on how to draft a dynasty team

Anything to say about the actual content of the post, or do you just want to keep pissing in the shark pool (in direct contradicdtion of your sig, I might add).

 

[suchislife]

He could've gotten more. He probably could've gotten Barber + another player/pick. It was a bad trade, even if it swings his way in the long run, because of the value he left on the table.

Thank you - I don't get why this is so difficult to understand.

Of course, maybe MBarber was the most that the TBell/CCobbs/CSapp/KJohnson owner was willing to part with.

 

[tecmo bo]

here is a pretty good article from another mb

JFE-Julius isnt the real problem

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By Jennifer Floyd Engel

Star-Telegram Staff Writer

STAR-TELEGRAM/DARRELL BYERS

Despite an unimpressive preseason, Julius Jones has already shown he can be a go-to running back.Julius Jones is one of those rare athletes who actually admits to knowing exactly what is being written and said about him. By everybody. Every day. Good, bad and ugly.

So this should come as no shock to him: Some people believe Jones is "just a guy," a JAG, a not-so-special running back.

Possibly even his head coach agrees.

Sir William spent a good portion of this off-season underwhelming us when talk turned to Jones. Whatever the question, Sir William dodged mentioning Jones exclusively and instead launched into why a buddy system with Marion Barber is a much better idea.

Parcells stands on somewhat sound statistical ground.

Jones finished the preseason averaging a very Troy Hambrick-esque 2.3 yards per carry. There is also that little detail of him only starting 19 games in two NFL seasons. Oh yeah, of his 1,812 career rushing yards, 691 came in four games.

Does this make him a JAG? Hardly.

If anything, just knowing those four games exist, that on some days he has that kind of game in him, should be enough to earn him another go at being this team's carry-the-mail back. This is his third year. The Tom Landry Rule requires at least that much patience.

He is not likely to get it.

Certain chatter boxes, as Sir William has tabbed us media types, already have begun opining that Barber has looked better. "Go with him," seems to be the hip thinking.

Funny because, on Thursday, when the Cowboys' offensive line was getting blown off the ball, it seemed Barber had his share of problems, too. Or maybe one carry for 1 yard against the Vikings' real defense is sneaky good?

The reality is this whole team is trying to work around the fact that the offensive line remains a big, fat question mark. Running backs, quarterbacks, everybody.

Owner Jones keeps talking about going to backup QB Tony Romo if the line has problems. How about this idea, Jerry? Fix the problems with the line.

This is what everybody was talking about when it was pointed out that money spent on "The Player" might have been better spent on a lineman.

I'm not talking about Kyle Kosier or Jason Fabini, either. Kosier will be lucky if he avoids being supplanted by Cory Procter at some point. And Fabini should have been cut Saturday, not Rob Petitti. But apparently being a former Jet is more important than being a 16-game starter with upside.

For anybody looking for a "who" the Cowboys could have signed, try Steve Hutchinson.

He is also the guy the Cowboys could have drafted if they had not traded the pick for wide receiver Joey Galloway.

Imagine how good Julius might be with Hutchinson.

Instead, the Cowboys are content to cross their fingers about the line and rotate their running backs.

"If that is what they want to do, that is what they are going to do," Julius said recently. "I'm not bitter. I'm not anything."

What he is not is a JAG.

Seriously, JAGs don't do what he did at Carolina last year, rushing for 194 yards. He has talent, no matter what he reads or hears. And he hears and reads everything.

"Sometimes, man, it does [anger me]," Julius said. "I go out there every year and try to prove to everybody that I'm worthy to be here. I know what things are said about me, and I just go out and try to prove people wrong."

What he needs to hope is the offensive line is doing likewise.

 

[Traders2001]

I really think Parcells days as a coach should be over , the guy is just on a power trip and that s it .He lost it

Good thing you don't own an NFL team, or are the GM of one. Your ability to judge Coaching talent is shaky, to say the least.

Explain , i am not the only one ( and by the way there are some experts out there who thinks axactly the same, the Cowboys would be a much better organization without Parcells and Jerry jones )

Has it really come to this around here? This is so brutal to read it's sickens me to be doing so. Threads like this really do hurt this site IMO. I would hope its a sign of the times and that this site is just about unbearable in season. Wow some of these threads really just make you say, get me out of here fast. Is their anything more aggravating than a thread that makes you pissed off because of its stupidity? Bye out of here..jeez.

The truth is always brutal to hear my friend . Parcells has been a great coach ( Probably a future HOF ) but he plain and simple lost it ( I think anyone working for Jerry Jones for a few years loses it ).

 

[PatsWillWin]

I really think Parcells days as a coach should be over , the guy is just on a power trip and that s it .He lost it

Good thing you don't own an NFL team, or are the GM of one. Your ability to judge Coaching talent is shaky, to say the least.

Explain , i am not the only one ( and by the way there are some experts out there who thinks axactly the same, the Cowboys would be a much better organization without Parcells and Jerry jones )

Has it really come to this around here? This is so brutal to read it's sickens me to be doing so. Threads like this really do hurt this site IMO. I would hope its a sign of the times and that this site is just about unbearable in season. Wow some of these threads really just make you say, get me out of here fast. Is their anything more aggravating than a thread that makes you pissed off because of its stupidity? Bye out of here..jeez.

The truth is always brutal to hear my friend . Parcells has been a great coach ( Probably a future HOF ) but he plain and simple lost it ( I think anyone working for Jerry Jones for a few years loses it ).

Aren't you supposed to be finding some links to all of the experts that have said Parcells has "lost it"?And care to produce any other kind of evidence of him losing it other than he won't start MBIII because you have him on your roster?

 

[Ned]

4. You made a terrible trade (talk about relying on pre-season performance TOO MUCH on one hand (Jones vs. Barber) and NOT ENOUGH on another (M. Bell locking down the starting gig in Denver)

I would take MBIII over a Denver RB in a dynasty league any time. In the last 5 years, Denver's had 4 different leading rushers. Why does everyone think MBell will be the one? Bell owners can enjoy their 3 games as a starter then suffer thru the uncertainty.

Portis is the man. No wait, its Droughns. Here's Mike Anderson. Tatum's the guy! No, its Quintin...back to Bell....Mike Bell. Eh, you can have the headache.

Thats exactly it , Bell has no value at all ( He aint a starting RB , Cobbs will probably end up starting by week 2 or 3 i had him and kept him did nt include him in the trade)so it will be a one sided trade but going my way .Guys who are keeping Bell remeber Q Griffin same thing ( I got Chris Brown and Larry Fitzgerald when i traded Griffin before the season started two years back )

No matter what you think about Mike Bell's chances of being a long-term starter, the point is that this is a sell-high time for Mike Bell. He's starting right now, and that in itself is more than anyone can say for Marion Barber. You in fact sold LOW trading the starting Denver RB for a backup Dallas RB.terrible

trade

can i join your league?

 

[Traders2001]

I really think Parcells days as a coach should be over , the guy is just on a power trip and that s it .He lost it

Good thing you don't own an NFL team, or are the GM of one. Your ability to judge Coaching talent is shaky, to say the least.

Explain , i am not the only one ( and by the way there are some experts out there who thinks axactly the same, the Cowboys would be a much better organization without Parcells and Jerry jones )

Has it really come to this around here? This is so brutal to read it's sickens me to be doing so. Threads like this really do hurt this site IMO. I would hope its a sign of the times and that this site is just about unbearable in season. Wow some of these threads really just make you say, get me out of here fast. Is their anything more aggravating than a thread that makes you pissed off because of its stupidity? Bye out of here..jeez.

The truth is always brutal to hear my friend . Parcells has been a great coach ( Probably a future HOF ) but he plain and simple lost it ( I think anyone working for Jerry Jones for a few years loses it ).

Aren't you supposed to be finding some links to all of the experts that have said Parcells has "lost it"?And care to produce any other kind of evidence of him losing it other than he won't start MBIII because you have him on your roster?

Worst he lost it way back when he was still coaching the Jets. ( so links are hard to find but i am working on it )

 

[Legion of Doom]

Let me know if you need anything else explained letter by letter, I'm happy to do it.

Cool,Let me know if you need any advice on how to draft a dynasty team

Anything to say about the actual content of the post, or do you just want to keep pissing in the shark pool (in direct contradicdtion of your sig, I might add).

I've stated my opinion. If you think Bell is the second coming of__________ good for you,he's not IMO.I think you are grossly over valuing his worth,especially in a dynasty league. He's going to split carries as long as he's in Denver,Skeletor,nuff said.

If this was a redraft league I might agree with you(well prolly not),but it's not,were talking dynasty.Most dynasty owners are not going to overpay for him.

The driving force of his value IMO is based on the success of prior Denver RB's in the system. For this reason alone people are willing to overpay for the 'starter' at Denver.

I think its a mistake this year and would not be surprised to see Tatum Bell have the best year of any denver rb.

Truth be told I hope I'm wrong as I own Mike Bell in several leagues.

shakes/zipsup

 

[zenzephyros]

Who on Earth said that Thompson was the third down guy? Parcells LOVES MBIII... he has already stated that Barber will have a huge role in the offense being the 3rd down and goal-line back. Playing behind injury prone Julius Jones and having a coach that has a lot of confidence in you is a not a bad gig.

 

[Clayton Gray]

There were a few decent posts in this thread, but most of you simply wanted to make fun of others. That's not what this forum is for.