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SteelerNation - OMFG are we the new "America's Team" (1 Viewer)

I know that the local steeler club here in memphis that meets at Fox & Hound Sanderlin is about 90% straight out thugs. There are frequent fights wtih non-steeler patrons and servers dread it because they don't tip at all and generally are complete malcontents that act like they own the place. THey've been dropped by another bar in the past and I don't see the arrangement with this one lasting much longer. On the other side of the coin, the Packers group has been at Mulligans Quince for about a decade or more now. They have an elaborate tailgate setup in the parking lot every Sunday rain or shine, and typically are quite gracious to the bar for their support. There are a couple older women who are ornery #####es but for the most part everyone's pretty cool. Take from that what you will. :)
:yes: Packer fans are second to none.Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, Rams fans...you see them at the bar, its rare they even know who their QB is, let alone what a QB is....
 
It's sad that you would put "OMFG" in any post, much less the topic title. I'm not a fan of the politcally correct police, but how can that expression NOT be considered offensive if every way, shape and form? I have nothing against the Steelers but if you're an accurate representation of their fans, I'm not impressed.Right up there with the first ever Oregon State apprearance I've ever seen on national TV. Three of four times during the game you could hear the clear and obvious chant of "B S" from the fans. Way to represent!Stay classy San Diego...
"oh my friggin' god" isn't offensive, Nancy.
 
I know that the local steeler club here in memphis that meets at Fox & Hound Sanderlin is about 90% straight out thugs. There are frequent fights wtih non-steeler patrons and servers dread it because they don't tip at all and generally are complete malcontents that act like they own the place. THey've been dropped by another bar in the past and I don't see the arrangement with this one lasting much longer.

On the other side of the coin, the Packers group has been at Mulligans Quince for about a decade or more now. They have an elaborate tailgate setup in the parking lot every Sunday rain or shine, and typically are quite gracious to the bar for their support. There are a couple older women who are ornery #####es but for the most part everyone's pretty cool.

Take from that what you will. :shrug:
:yes: Packer fans are second to none.

Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, Rams fans...you see them at the bar, its rare they even know who their QB is, let alone what a QB is....
:)
 
I know that the local steeler club here in memphis that meets at Fox & Hound Sanderlin is about 90% straight out thugs. There are frequent fights wtih non-steeler patrons and servers dread it because they don't tip at all and generally are complete malcontents that act like they own the place. THey've been dropped by another bar in the past and I don't see the arrangement with this one lasting much longer.

On the other side of the coin, the Packers group has been at Mulligans Quince for about a decade or more now. They have an elaborate tailgate setup in the parking lot every Sunday rain or shine, and typically are quite gracious to the bar for their support. There are a couple older women who are ornery #####es but for the most part everyone's pretty cool.

Take from that what you will. :shrug:
:bs: Packer fans are second to none.

Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, Rams fans...you see them at the bar, its rare they even know who their QB is, let alone what a QB is....
:rolleyes:
Come out to California and ask 20 random dudes with Raider gear on who their QB is.Those type of "fans" are adopting PIT as their team. Sorry.

 
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Steelers SUCK!!!!!!!

J/K. Hard to argue with your record or success or with anyone who supports your team. That said the immaculate reception was a crock!

 
I know that the local steeler club here in memphis that meets at Fox & Hound Sanderlin is about 90% straight out thugs. There are frequent fights wtih non-steeler patrons and servers dread it because they don't tip at all and generally are complete malcontents that act like they own the place. THey've been dropped by another bar in the past and I don't see the arrangement with this one lasting much longer.

On the other side of the coin, the Packers group has been at Mulligans Quince for about a decade or more now. They have an elaborate tailgate setup in the parking lot every Sunday rain or shine, and typically are quite gracious to the bar for their support. There are a couple older women who are ornery #####es but for the most part everyone's pretty cool.

Take from that what you will. :shrug:
:goodposting: Packer fans are second to none.

Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, Rams fans...you see them at the bar, its rare they even know who their QB is, let alone what a QB is....
:o
Come out to California and ask 20 random dudes with Raider gear on who their QB is.Those type of "fans" are adopting PIT as their team. Sorry.
It's a funny thing. There are fans that stick with their team (whatever it is) for a long time. Then there are the bandwagon types and it's funny.At the place where I was watching the game was someone who roots for the Packers who didn't even know how many Super Bowls they had won :lol:

Then there was the time this year watching Colts-Bengals and the Colts fan (who'd been rooting for them all of 4 years) needs to keep saying to me "how does it feel?" I can only hope she'll find out soon and for a long time, since she missed the Colts era right before Manning. I'm sure it felt good to see Manning throw all those INTs lately. :) Somethings tell me she'll find something else to do once Manning is gone and if the Colts have a prolonged period of 4-12 type seasons.

:shrug: the point is of course that bandwagon fans are always the most annoying, but beyond that certain fan bases are annoying in and of themselves and don't need the bandwagoners to help any.

-QG

 
OPS said:
Dizzy said:
OPS said:
rapy QB - check

NFL's dirtiest player (H. Ward) - check

NFL's biggest cheap shot artist (J. Harrison) - check

women beaters - check

douchy fans - check

Why wouldn't the whole country embrace them?
It's OK OPS... you can put your Cleveland Browns logo under your name.We won't pick on you too much. You're still the best NFL team in Ohio. :yes:
lolI'll get around to doing that. In all honesty, the players are just like any other players and the fans are just like any other fans. They do have superior ownership though. Of course their success is going to lead to plenty of bandwagon fans.
Yeah you're absolutely right... hence my earlier comments about Saints "fans" not being old enough to drink.Funny, it was sibling rivalry (I guess) that brought me to Steeler Nation... it was the game following the Imacculate Reception (which I did not see "live")... my older brother - a die hard Dolphins fan - was watching the AFC Championship game, so of course I became a Steelers fan for a day... and it stuck ever since (even though they lost). It was all with that game too... I started out cheering for the Steelers just because my brother was cheering for the Dolphins, and as the game went on he needled me relentlessly as if I'd been a Steelers fan for the entire 6 years of my life to that point. And I actually found myself defending them, solely based on his needling.

Never looked back... Steelers fan for life... even though Cliff Stoudt tested my will at times! :excited:

 
the turnip said:
It's sad that you would put "OMFG" in any post, much less the topic title.

I'm not a fan of the politcally correct police, but how can that expression NOT be considered offensive if every way, shape and form?

I have nothing against the Steelers but if you're an accurate representation of their fans, I'm not impressed.

Right up there with the first ever Oregon State apprearance I've ever seen on national TV. Three of four times during the game you could hear the clear and obvious chant of "B S" from the fans. Way to represent!

Stay classy San Diego...
Turnip,Obviously he's a member of Steeler Nation - Memphis Chapter.

I heard bad things about those guys.

 
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I know that the local steeler club here in memphis that meets at Fox & Hound Sanderlin is about 90% straight out thugs. There are frequent fights wtih non-steeler patrons and servers dread it because they don't tip at all and generally are complete malcontents that act like they own the place. THey've been dropped by another bar in the past and I don't see the arrangement with this one lasting much longer.

On the other side of the coin, the Packers group has been at Mulligans Quince for about a decade or more now. They have an elaborate tailgate setup in the parking lot every Sunday rain or shine, and typically are quite gracious to the bar for their support. There are a couple older women who are ornery #####es but for the most part everyone's pretty cool.

Take from that what you will. :shrug:
:goodposting: Packer fans are second to none.

Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, Rams fans...you see them at the bar, its rare they even know who their QB is, let alone what a QB is....
I agree... as far as sports fans go, you've got your Total Zero's (no offense Philly), and then the Packers fans are next in line!
 
OPS said:
rapy QB - checkNFL's dirtiest player (H. Ward) - checkNFL's biggest cheap shot artist (J. Harrison) - checkwomen beaters - checkdouchy fans - checkWhy wouldn't the whole country embrace them?
:thanks:
 
1. A lot of Steelers fans have a huge sense of entitlement which makes them douchy. Some fans were calling for Tomlin to be fired after last year. You guys also seem to whine the most compared to other fan bases.

2. The team itself plays dirty (or at the very least borderline dirty). The star QB might be a rapist. The team also whines a lot.

3. Timscotchet is a Steeler fan.
Bingo. I can't even speak too much to the fans, I just remember the team expecting to make the SB in 2001, and later on in Roethlisberger's rookie year. The fact that the "shut up and play" New England Patriots knocked them off both times made me the only thing worse than a Steelers fan: a Patriots fan.Like most people, I can't stand the Dallas Cowboys, but they are America's Team. The moniker "America's Team" wouldn't exist without them, and it would've died long ago if they had the track record of most teams.

 
1. A lot of Steelers fans have a huge sense of entitlement which makes them douchy. Some fans were calling for Tomlin to be fired after last year. You guys also seem to whine the most compared to other fan bases.

2. The team itself plays dirty (or at the very least borderline dirty). The star QB might be a rapist. The team also whines a lot.

3. Timscotchet is a Steeler fan.
Bingo. I can't even speak too much to the fans, I just remember the team expecting to make the SB in 2001, and later on in Roethlisberger's rookie year. The fact that the "shut up and play" New England Patriots knocked them off both times made me the only thing worse than a Steelers fan: a Patriots fan.
1) Any player playing in the Conference Championship game that doesn't expect to go to the Super Bowl shouldn't be playing.2) The Patriots were the defending Super Bowl Champions in Roethlisberger's rookie season and my recollection is they were the favorites to win the AFC Championship game, even though the Steelers were playing at home. I was at that game and it was colder than hell. The Steelers got off to a horrible start and while they mounted a bit of a comeback they were clearly outmatched by the Patriots who went on to win the Super Bowl.

 
I agree... as far as sports fans go, you've got your Total Zero's (no offense Philly), and then the Packers fans are next in line!
Helping Steelers fans earn their bad rep... one post at a time :lmao:
With an assist of course from people that take quotes out of context. :lmao: I don't mean to harp on the Iggles fans... actually between the Birds and Steelers, Pennsylvania has 6 SB rings!
 
Life long Steelers fan of 38 years. I don't subscribe to the "America's Team" thing. Country's too big with too many people with too many varied tastes. There is no denying the Steelers incredible stability and amazing sustained success as an NFL franchise. Here is an article in today's Post Gazette that alludes to why the Steelers are one of the best, and certainly "Pittsburgh's Team". The last part of the article, "A Steady Course' with insight from Antwaan Randle El says it all.

Steelers leading division against oddshttp://postgazette.com/pg/10346/1109887-66.stmSunday, December 12, 2010By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Matt Freed/Post-GazetteSteelers wide receiver Hines Ward on preseason predictions for the AFC North: "Everyone was picking the Bengals and Ravens."For a city that averages approximately 60 cloudless days a year, dark skies on the horizon are nothing out of the ordinary. But it is when leaden clouds are hovering above the Steelers.

A storm was brewing long before they would even get to training camp in late July, and at its center was a four-game suspension handed to quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for violating the National Football League's personal conduct policy. But also swirling among the debris was the release of their top receiver and former Super Bowl XLIII MVP, Santonio Holmes, and a season-ending injury to their best offensive lineman, Willie Colon.

It was not the ideal way to begin after a season in which the Steelers not only failed to defend their Super Bowl XLIII title, they missed the playoffs with a 9-7 record that was largely attributable to a five-game losing streak.

"Everyone was picking the Bengals and Ravens," said wide receiver Hines Ward. "Not having our quarterback, losing Santonio, losing Willie Colon and stuff like that, it didn't look good. I wouldn't have picked us, either."

That, though, was just the beginning.

In the final preseason game, the Steelers lost quarterback Byron Leftwich (sprained knee), the player they signed specifically to replace Roethlisberger during his suspension. Leftwich's replacement, Dennis Dixon, started the first two games but was injured in the second quarter against the Tennessee Titans and eventually was placed on injured reserve.

And it just went from there.

The Steelers lost left tackle Max Starks for the season with a neck injury; lost both defensive ends, Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel, for extended periods of time; and last week lost punter Daniel Sepulveda with a season-ending torn anterior cruciate ligament. On top of that, they released kicker Jeff Reed, one of the longest tenured players on the team and the NFL's most accurate kicker the previous three seasons.

"It could have destroyed the whole season," said inside linebacker and defensive captain James Farrior, one of the oldest players on the team. "We had numerous things happen to this team that probably would have brought another team down."

And yet, despite the summer gloom, despite all the turbulence that would have rocked just about any other NFL franchise, the Steelers are heading into the final quarter of the season with an outlook rosier than a 10-day forecast in Maui.

They have won three in a row, are tied for the second-best record in the league (9-3) and are in prime position to get one of the two first-round byes in the American Football Conference playoffs. What's more, they play their next three games at home, beginning at 1 p.m. today against the Cincinnati Bengals (2-10) at Heinz Field.

Amazing might not be a strong enough word.

"We're a close-knit family," said Ward, who, in his 13th NFL season, is the longest tenured player on the team along with Smith. "This team has been battle-tested more than any team this year. We're winning the games we're supposed to win and finding ways to win. The resiliency of the past three weeks, never giving up, speaks volume to the character of our team, the players we have on our team."

The Bengals wish they could find the same resiliency.

First to worstIt wasn't supposed to work this way for the Bengals. This was the year they would disregard their recent history and do something they have been unable to do in eight years under their head coach, Marvin Lewis -- put together back-to-back winning seasons.

With nearly their entire roster returning, and the addition of Terrell Owens and Adam "PacMan" Jones in free agency, the Bengals were prepared to follow up their AFC North title-winning season of 2009 with, at the very least, another winning season in 2010. Seemed as certain as snow in Buffalo.

But, as they drag their tails into Heinz Field, the Bengals have done more than morph back to their former ways. For the third time in the past 20 years, they have lost nine consecutive games in a single season -- a dubious feat achieved by only 16 other teams since 1991.

And, if they manage to lose to the Steelers, the losing streak will be at 10, matching the same stretch of futility set by the 1993 Bengals under David Shula.

"It just hasn't been our year at all," said Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco. "The games that we've been close in are the games we pulled off last year."

To be sure, the Bengals have had their share of injuries, too.

They lost four of their top defensive linemen to season-ending injuries: Tank Johnson, Antwan Odom, Jonathan Fanene and Frostee Rucker. They put four other starters on injured reserve: fullback Fui Vakapuna, safety Chris Crocker, kicker Mike Nugent and right tackle Andre Smith, their 2009 No. 1 draft pick. Three reserves in the secondary also went on IR: Jones, cornerback Morgan Trent and safety Jabril Wilson.

And that doesn't include the tragic loss of No. 3 wide receiver Chris Henry, who was killed in a vehicular accident last December.

All that has conspired to send the Bengals from first to worst in the AFC North, the only 2009 playoff team to fall so hard so quickly in their division. Even the Arizona Cardinals, who have lost seven in a row after winning the NFC West in 2009, cannot match the Bengals' futility. The Cardinals, though, have an excuse -- they lost quarterback Kurt Warner to retirement.

"The teams that are losing close games just can't find ways to win games like that," Ward said.

The Steelers are doing that this year, further defining the fine line that exists between a 9-7 non-playoff team and a team that can conceivably clinch a playoff spot today, two weeks before Christmas.

Consider:

• A dropped interception by rookie cornerback Joe Burnett against the Oakland Raiders last season is replaced by a dropped touchdown by Stevie Johnson of the Buffalo Bills this season.

• A fourth-and-10 conversion in the final minute by the Bengals last season was a fourth-and-5 failure with 34 seconds remaining by the Bengals in Paul Brown Stadium this season.

• Dennis Dixon's overtime interception in Baltimore last season was replaced by Troy Polamalu's stunning forced fumble in the final minutes last Sunday night.

"We're a resilient bunch of guys," Farrior said. "We've been going through this for a while. It seems every year someone goes down or a group gets hit and we've always done a good job of plugging someone else in and getting the job done."

Indeed, in their most recent history, the Steelers have managed to avoid the monumental collapses that have afflicted the Bengals, even when it appeared they were headed in that direction.

After winning Super Bowl XL in the 2005 season, they started 2-6 the following season, only to go 6-2 in the final eight games to finish at .500.

Last year, following a five-game losing streak in which the Steelers lost to three teams with no more than two victories -- Kansas City, Oakland, Cleveland -- they won their final three games to finish at 9-7, just a game from making the playoffs.

"If we do have that one bad year, we find ways to rectify it," Ward said. "As players, we have a lot of prideful guys. I thought winning those last three, I knew what kind of club we were going to be because nobody ever quit, nobody gave up."

A steady courseThe Steelers' ability to avoid such colossal meltdowns comes as no surprise to Lewis, the Bengals coach who spent four years with the Steelers as an assistant coach, all as a playoff participant.

"The system has stayed in place, year after year," said Lewis, who is in the final year of his contract with the Bengals. "I think that is important. If you look at the backup players and take a look at the defensive line, [John] Mitchell has coached those guys for a long time and they have one new guy [Ziggy Hood] who was drafted a year ago.

"But I think that makes a huge difference, so when you lose a fine player in Aaron Smith for an extended period of time, the other guys are there. Charlie Batch has stayed in the mix throughout and Byron [Leftwich] was there a couple of years ago, so you've got guys. And Kevin [Colbert] and Mike [Tomlin] have done a nice job of keeping guys in the family. I think when you can do that and if you choose the right ones and they are productive, that makes a big difference.

"Because the system stays the same, you are changing one, maybe two, pieces but the other nine pieces continue to roll forward."

Wide receiver Antwaan Randle El left the Steelers after back-to-back appearances in the AFC championship game and a Super Bowl victory in 2005. Now he is back, after four years with the Redskins in which they made the playoffs just once, and not much has seemed to change.

The Steelers remain on the same course as when he departed, even with all the injuries, suspensions and departures.

"It's a combination of the organization and the way they run things, the hires they make with Mike Tomlin and the staff, and the players," Randle El said. "They have players who have been here and won; they know what to expect. Everyone is on the same page of what we're trying to do to win. Everybody puts their self aside and just focuses on the team. I don't think we have any selfish guys in here and, if we did, you would hear the players talk about them and they'd be trying to get them out of here."

Amazing, really.

Gerry Dulac: gdulac@post-gazette.com.

Read more: http://postgazette.com/pg/10346/1109887-66.stm#ixzz17thstmnr

 
"Americas Team" Is the most ridiculous promotion idea I've ever heard of and Mr. Rooney said it right when he said "We're Pittsburghs team" to bad Dallas loved the idea and used it for shameless self promotion. I'm a fan of neither team and I think the whole thing should be dropped, there is no Americas team unless American football is someday accepted as an Olympic sport.
America's team to me means fans from other cities that still root for another team outside of their city. If more fans in other cities root for Pittsburgh than Dallas now, then that would be why they would be considered America's team.I understand why Rooney said we're Pittsburgh's team but I think he's selling a lot of fans nationwide short.What about the guy that lives in San Diego that loves Pittsburgh, does he not give a crap about him?What about the guy that lived in Pittsburgh for most of his life, got laid off in hard times and had to move to Iowa to get a job to support his family. Does he not give a crap about him?I live in Detroit and always have. I've been a Dallas Cowboy fan since 5 years old, so 35 years now. I'm glad Jerry Jones doesn't come out and say were Dallas team, making my lifetime support towards the Cowboys feel unwanted or needed. That's fine Pittsburgh if you don't want the title, piss on your fans across the country because that's all the title really means. It's not shameful to have fans from other cities or countries root for you.
 
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Dallas is still between 15-20% of the NFL licensed business...Steelers roughly 8-10%.
These are ridiculous numbers. Did you just make them up?I don't believe that 2 teams generate 25% of all NFL licensed business .... while 30 teams contribute the other 75%. That leaves about 2% contributed by each of the other 30 teams.Raiders? Packers? Bears? Patriots? Colts? Dolphins? Giants? Jets? Eagles? Chargers? Saints? C'mon now, use some common sense.
 

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