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**Steelers at Browns** (-2.5, 33) 1:00 (3 Viewers)

Incredible that a match with 2 "bums" at QB are having such a pivotal match this weekend.
The Browns have to do EVERYTHING they can to get this win. Everything. It will flip the script completely. LET'S GO ROOK!
 
The game is huge for the Steelers as well.

Everyone is making this game out to be the 2 QBs against two of the best defenses but it may come down more to the play of the offensive lines.
 
Forget the new NFL version of Madden.
These two teams are winning with old school defense and smash mouth football,sort of.
First team to 20? 17? 13?
How about...

Keebler Elves- 20
Steel City- 13
 
Feeling like DT Robinson is going to be a lot better than people think.

He was thrown into the fire at the last second in his previous start. With a full week preparing, I think he can keep the O afloat. This kid looked great in the preseason (yeah I know).
 
I think this is a low scoring slugfest, where both teams sell out to stop the run and force the other team's QB to make a play. Ultimately, I think the Browns D is a little better, and that swings the game, though I could see such an approach leading to a big play for Cooper or Pickens.

I do agree with Cleveland that with Watson out for the year, it makes more sense to roll with DTR.

Browns and the under
 
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kyoun1e said:
Feeling like DT Robinson is going to be a lot better than people think.

He was thrown into the fire at the last second in his previous start. With a full week preparing, I think he can keep the O afloat. This kid looked great in the preseason (yeah I know).
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Beware that Cleveland has also been decimated at tackle, lost Conklin earlier in the season, and recently lost Wills until mid-December, and Conklin’s replacement Dawand Jones is battling an injury of his own though insists he’ll play. Going up against T.J. Watt today I don’t suspect DTR will have much time to throw.
 
Lansdowne said:
kyoun1e said:
Feeling like DT Robinson is going to be a lot better than people think.

He was thrown into the fire at the last second in his previous start. With a full week preparing, I think he can keep the O afloat. This kid looked great in the preseason (yeah I know).
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Beware that Cleveland has also been decimated at tackle, lost Conklin earlier in the season, and recently lost Wills until mid-December, and Conklin’s replacement Dawand Jones is battling an injury of his own though insists he’ll play. Going up against T.J. Watt today I don’t suspect DTR will have much time to throw.
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Yeah, think Jones is playing.

All this talk of TJ Watt and PIT's D...they give up a pretty decent amount of yards, both rushing and passing. Not dominant by any means, but yes, that D line could create some disruption.

Then again, so can CLE's entire D.
 
kyoun1e said:
Lansdowne said:
kyoun1e said:
Feeling like DT Robinson is going to be a lot better than people think.

He was thrown into the fire at the last second in his previous start. With a full week preparing, I think he can keep the O afloat. This kid looked great in the preseason (yeah I know).
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Beware that Cleveland has also been decimated at tackle, lost Conklin earlier in the season, and recently lost Wills until mid-December, and Conklin’s replacement Dawand Jones is battling an injury of his own though insists he’ll play. Going up against T.J. Watt today I don’t suspect DTR will have much time to throw.
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Yeah, think Jones is playing.

All this talk of TJ Watt and PIT's D...they give up a pretty decent amount of yards, both rushing and passing. Not dominant by any means, but yes, that D line could create some disruption.

Then again, so can CLE's entire D.
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Even great defenses give up yards when their offense has them constantly on the field
 
Galileo said:
Galileo said:
They aren't overturning that
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So much for what I know. They had to have a different view
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I didn’t think it was clear cut enough to overturn, either. The refs extrapolated — they had an overhead still where Ford’s shoulders were perpendicular to the goal line and his helmet was almost on the goal line itself. From that shot, they probably figured the ball-holding right arm HAD to be over.
 
I normally don't complain about officiating, and I never blame a loss on them, but they aren't very good so far :lol:

Missed a safety on Pickett for sure, then probably another safety on 2nd down, then the overturned TD call was suspect.
 

Diontae Johnson must have slept with pickets and coaches wife and girlfreinds. sp far 0 for 2 weeks now. what a waste​

 
10 point deficit is completely insurmountable for this Steelers team against this Browns team. Steelers have 64 yards of offense at half time. Ridiculous.
 
Godsbrother said:
The game is huge for the Steelers as well.

Everyone is making this game out to be the 2 QBs against two of the best defenses but it may come down more to the play of the offensive lines.
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Dan Moore should not be an OLine starter. He is terrible and getting Kenny killed. The whole offense is offensive but Moore is in a league of his own.
 
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