Steelers Broke and 4-6, Bengals Division Champs (1 Viewer)

[MAC_32]

I'd take a 3rd round Ward or Brown any day.

Like Denard Robinson? Cool.

As a Browns fan, I do not want to see him in Pittsburgh.Get someone else.

 

[infantsam]

do we want slash-2?

Super magnetic guy though.

 

[MAC_32]

Please draft 7 more versions of Mike Adams, love the pick just as much now as I did then.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Please draft 7 more versions of Mike Adams, love the pick just as much now as I did then.

You mean our rookie of the year?

 

[Raider Nation]

Why the hell is this thread at the top of the page all day, every day?

 

[MAC_32]

Please draft 7 more versions of Mike Adams, love the pick just as much now as I did then.

You mean our rookie of the year?

Shows how awful of a draft it was for you guys last year. Still think DeCastro will be a baller though, even more angry now the Browns took Weeden instead of him.

 

[Sinrman]

I would still love to see Wallace in Detroit. We need a #2 BADLY.

 

[Chachi]

I would still love to see Wallace in Detroit. We need a #2 BADLY.

The Chachinator own Stafford. The Chachinator supports this.

 

[cstu]

The idiot does not realize he could have a 10 year career at a good salary on a team that usually has a chance... (in this case until Ben goes in 5-7 years or so)

Football, first and foremost, is a job. Obviously a player should look for a good situation with a chance to win a SB but Pittsburgh isn't the only one in the league. These guys have a very short time to make money so I don't blame them for trying to do so.

 

[cstu]

I think the Steelers intended to extend him before his contract expired, they were not prepared to pay the price he demanded though. Understandably caught them by surprise. I thought his demands were ridiculous.

And they will get a comp #3 for him, he will get paid. Mike Wallace is 5x the player Robert Meachem is and look at that contract. Jennings and Bowe will sign first, but Wallace should see the 3rd biggest WR contract in this haul. Given the premium on WR's that will be a pretty penny.

Pittsburgh played this right, Wallace played it wrong.

First you say he's going to get a huge contract and then you say he played it wrong.

 

[Chachi]

The Chachinator wonders if Wallace would consider SF? Crabtree and Wallace are both very good, different WRs. The Chachinator might be onto something here.

 

[Abrantes]

Why the hell is this thread at the top of the page all day, every day?

Because the Steelers are broke.

 

[MAC_32]

I think the Steelers intended to extend him before his contract expired, they were not prepared to pay the price he demanded though. Understandably caught them by surprise. I thought his demands were ridiculous.

And they will get a comp #3 for him, he will get paid. Mike Wallace is 5x the player Robert Meachem is and look at that contract. Jennings and Bowe will sign first, but Wallace should see the 3rd biggest WR contract in this haul. Given the premium on WR's that will be a pretty penny.

Pittsburgh played this right, Wallace played it wrong.

First you say he's going to get a huge contract and then you say he played it wrong.

That's because all WR's with talent get paid, probably cost himself a few pennies with his act over the last year, and may need to go to a bad team to get that $ now.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

If the Steelers let Mike Wallace walk they won't get anything for Wallace.

They didn't use him to reach the playoffs and didn't squeeze every last drop out of him in the post season as some were assuming.

The organization blew it by not trading him when he held value.

They had a valuable/tradable commodity at one point but got nothing, basically they let that opportunity slip away.

As was discussed earlier in the thread, this is not really true. Wallace was available to any team last season for a 1st round draft pick but received no offers. Therefore the best the Steelers could have gotten in a trade was a 2nd round pick, assuming some other team was even offering that. If Wallace gets the big contract that many think he is due the Steelers will likely receive a 3rd round compensatory pick. By holding Wallace to the final season of his contract the Steelers had his services for the 2012 season which, had the season unfolded differently, could have made a difference in a playoff run. And had Wallace put up a monster season they also would still have the option to slap the franchise tag on him for 2013.

The "cost" of this gamble was at best a 2nd round pick vs a 3rd round pick -- I think they did the right thing.

No one was going to pay a 1st round pick for him without a contract in place. No one was going to pay a 2nd round pick for him without a contract in place.

No one was going to pay a 3rd round pick for him without a contract in place.

They blew it by not trading him when he still had time on his contract and was making noise about wanting an extension that the Steelers had no intention of paying.

Now you can do your Homer spin all you want. The Steelers won't get a compensentory end of the third round selection because NOW no team will pay top dollar which is how compensentory selections are valued and the highest compensentory pick is the end of the third round.

Repeat END of the third round.

So if the Steelers were not willing to pay him they should have traded him and gotten more than whatever compensentory selection that they will get but it won't be a third (end of the third round) and they easily could have gotten more than a glorified early 4th round pick for him which means they BLEW IT.

First, if no team will pay him the amount of money that would get the Steelers a 3rd round pick, then he'll just re-sign in Pittsburgh. He's already said he prefers to stay. The deck is stacked for the franchises under this CBA, as much as you guys want to try to blast the Steelers organization, the vast majority of the national media types have said they've played it perfectly.Second, it's compensatory not compensentory.

Third, you will always be the guy that blasted me for suggesting that the Browns should trade Derek Anderson and/or Brady Quinn for the multiple draft picks that it was being suggested teams were offering. In addition, you accused me of baiting Browns fans by even being involved in the thread in the first place. So, has your stance on this changed, or can you simply not practice what you preach? And by the way, how'd holding on to those guys work out for you?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Please draft 7 more versions of Mike Adams, love the pick just as much now as I did then.

You mean our rookie of the year?

Shows how awful of a draft it was for you guys last year. Still think DeCastro will be a baller though, even more angry now the Browns took Weeden instead of him.

WAY too early to determine that.1st round - DeCastro - INJURED. Jury's out on him, played like crap when he had the chance, but had no time to prepare.2nd round - Adams - hot and cold, was very good in run blocking, lousy in pass blocking. I think he's our RT down the road, though, so I'm not going to argue with this pick yet.3rd round - Sean Spence - INJURED. Missed the entire year. Still think he has the chance to be a very good player in this league, though I still have questions on how he'll be used in LeBeau's system.Beyond that, Ta'Amu has had issues, but went way later than originally projected and has enough physical ability that he's still around the team even after all the chicanery he pulled. Rainey was an afterthought and by the end of the year, was returning kicks, getting snaps out of the backfield, being used in the slot, etc. Still think he will be a poor man's Percy Harvin before all is said and done. Liked the pick then, like it now.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I would still love to see Wallace in Detroit. We need a #2 BADLY.

Detroit would be a perfect place for him. He could do some real damage with teams forced to double cover Calvin all game long. With a lot of space, Wallace could be a MAJOR weapon, so long as he catches and holds onto the ball.

 

[Hoosier16]

Why are people assuming the compensatory pick is a given? It's going to depend upon whether or not the Steelers sign more FA than they lose.

 

[MAC_32]

Why are people assuming the compensatory pick is a given? It's going to depend upon whether or not the Steelers sign more FA than they lose.

Steelers rarely sign meaningful free agents.

 

[Hoosier16]

Why are people assuming the compensatory pick is a given? It's going to depend upon whether or not the Steelers sign more FA than they lose.

Steelers rarely sign meaningful free agents.

I don't think it necessarily has to be meaningful. I believe it has more to do with the quantity.

 

[Godsbrother]

Why are people assuming the compensatory pick is a given? It's going to depend upon whether or not the Steelers sign more FA than they lose.

Steelers rarely sign meaningful free agents.

I don't think it necessarily has to be meaningful. I believe it has more to do with the quantity.

The Steelers have a TON of free agents. The odds of them signing more FAs than leave is not very high.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Why are people assuming the compensatory pick is a given? It's going to depend upon whether or not the Steelers sign more FA than they lose.

Steelers rarely sign meaningful free agents.

I don't think it necessarily has to be meaningful. I believe it has more to do with the quantity.

Actually its more or better. Picks are awarded to teams that LOST more or better free agents. Better being determined by contract values.

 

[moondog]

Why are people assuming the compensatory pick is a given? It's going to depend upon whether or not the Steelers sign more FA than they lose.

Steelers rarely sign meaningful free agents.

I don't think it necessarily has to be meaningful. I believe it has more to do with the quantity.

The Steelers have a TON of free agents. The odds of them signing more FAs than leave is not very high.

From an NFL.COM article last year -Under the rules for compensatory draft selections, a team losing more or better compensatory free agents than it acquires in the previous year is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks.The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents up to a maximum of four.Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a club is covered by this formula.

 

[Hoosier16]

Why are people assuming the compensatory pick is a given? It's going to depend upon whether or not the Steelers sign more FA than they lose.

Steelers rarely sign meaningful free agents.

I don't think it necessarily has to be meaningful. I believe it has more to do with the quantity.

Actually its more or better. Picks are awarded to teams that LOST more or better free agents. Better being determined by contract values.

I could be wrong but I think the better only comes into play if they sign a number equal to what they lose.

 

[cstu]

I think the Steelers intended to extend him before his contract expired, they were not prepared to pay the price he demanded though. Understandably caught them by surprise. I thought his demands were ridiculous.

And they will get a comp #3 for him, he will get paid. Mike Wallace is 5x the player Robert Meachem is and look at that contract. Jennings and Bowe will sign first, but Wallace should see the 3rd biggest WR contract in this haul. Given the premium on WR's that will be a pretty penny.

Pittsburgh played this right, Wallace played it wrong.

First you say he's going to get a huge contract and then you say he played it wrong.

That's because all WR's with talent get paid, probably cost himself a few pennies with his act over the last year, and may need to go to a bad team to get that $ now.

If the crap VJax pulled didn't prevent him from getting a huge contract it's not going to hurt Wallace.

 

[MAC_32]

I think the Steelers intended to extend him before his contract expired, they were not prepared to pay the price he demanded though. Understandably caught them by surprise. I thought his demands were ridiculous.

And they will get a comp #3 for him, he will get paid. Mike Wallace is 5x the player Robert Meachem is and look at that contract. Jennings and Bowe will sign first, but Wallace should see the 3rd biggest WR contract in this haul. Given the premium on WR's that will be a pretty penny.

Pittsburgh played this right, Wallace played it wrong.

First you say he's going to get a huge contract and then you say he played it wrong.

That's because all WR's with talent get paid, probably cost himself a few pennies with his act over the last year, and may need to go to a bad team to get that $ now.

If the crap VJax pulled didn't prevent him from getting a huge contract it's not going to hurt Wallace.

He had to go to a bad team to get the $ though, Wallace may have to follow suit.

 

[Statcruncher]

I think the Steelers intended to extend him before his contract expired, they were not prepared to pay the price he demanded though. Understandably caught them by surprise. I thought his demands were ridiculous.

And they will get a comp #3 for him, he will get paid. Mike Wallace is 5x the player Robert Meachem is and look at that contract. Jennings and Bowe will sign first, but Wallace should see the 3rd biggest WR contract in this haul. Given the premium on WR's that will be a pretty penny.

Pittsburgh played this right, Wallace played it wrong.

First you say he's going to get a huge contract and then you say he played it wrong.

That's because all WR's with talent get paid, probably cost himself a few pennies with his act over the last year, and may need to go to a bad team to get that $ now.

If the crap VJax pulled didn't prevent him from getting a huge contract it's not going to hurt Wallace.

He had to go to a bad team to get the $ though, Wallace may have to follow suit.

Not sure about that. San Diego appears to declining while Tampa Bay is putting the pieces together. If I had to guess I would bet the Bucs win a Super Bowl before San Diego.

 

[MAC_32]

Disagree about Tampa, they fell apart again at the end of the season, FO is openly questioning whether Freeman is the guy long term, secondary is awful. San Diego finally crashed this year, but this is all in hindsight anyway, this time last year who was in the better spot? San Diego faded to Tampa territory this year, Tampa didn't do anything to rise up out of mediocrity.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

If the crap VJax pulled didn't prevent him from getting a huge contract it's not going to hurt Wallace.

No one's obligated to play without a contract.

 

[Donsmith753]

Disagree about Tampa, they fell apart again at the end of the season, FO is openly questioning whether Freeman is the guy long term, secondary is awful. San Diego finally crashed this year, but this is all in hindsight anyway, this time last year who was in the better spot? San Diego faded to Tampa territory this year, Tampa didn't do anything to rise up out of mediocrity.

Wherever you are in the toilet, you're still a turd.

 

[Silver & Black]

I think the Steelers intended to extend him before his contract expired, they were not prepared to pay the price he demanded though. Understandably caught them by surprise. I thought his demands were ridiculous.

And they will get a comp #3 for him, he will get paid. Mike Wallace is 5x the player Robert Meachem is and look at that contract. Jennings and Bowe will sign first, but Wallace should see the 3rd biggest WR contract in this haul. Given the premium on WR's that will be a pretty penny.

Pittsburgh played this right, Wallace played it wrong.

First you say he's going to get a huge contract and then you say he played it wrong.

That's because all WR's with talent get paid, probably cost himself a few pennies with his act over the last year, and may need to go to a bad team to get that $ now.

If the crap VJax pulled didn't prevent him from getting a huge contract it's not going to hurt Wallace.

He had to go to a bad team to get the $ though, Wallace may have to follow suit.

I'd love to see him in Silver & Black...

 

[MAC_32]

Disagree about Tampa, they fell apart again at the end of the season, FO is openly questioning whether Freeman is the guy long term, secondary is awful. San Diego finally crashed this year, but this is all in hindsight anyway, this time last year who was in the better spot? San Diego faded to Tampa territory this year, Tampa didn't do anything to rise up out of mediocrity.

Wherever you are in the toilet, you're still a turd.

Maybe you were ahead of the game, but I don't recall many thinking San Diego would face plant like they did this year. Lots of questions and people expected Norv to be just bad enough to finally get fired, but...this bad? Didn't think it and don't think many did.There were some that were buying into Tampa, but there's a reason they were picking 6th coming into this year and it wasn't all Raheem Morris' fault. For V Jacks to get his $ he had to go to a lousy team, I think Wallace will have to do the same.

 

[cstu]

I think the Steelers intended to extend him before his contract expired, they were not prepared to pay the price he demanded though. Understandably caught them by surprise. I thought his demands were ridiculous.

And they will get a comp #3 for him, he will get paid. Mike Wallace is 5x the player Robert Meachem is and look at that contract. Jennings and Bowe will sign first, but Wallace should see the 3rd biggest WR contract in this haul. Given the premium on WR's that will be a pretty penny.

Pittsburgh played this right, Wallace played it wrong.

First you say he's going to get a huge contract and then you say he played it wrong.

That's because all WR's with talent get paid, probably cost himself a few pennies with his act over the last year, and may need to go to a bad team to get that $ now.

If the crap VJax pulled didn't prevent him from getting a huge contract it's not going to hurt Wallace.

He had to go to a bad team to get the $ though, Wallace may have to follow suit.

I'd love to see him in Silver & Black...

Cutting DHB and signing Wallace would be a helluva upgrade for not much more more money.

 

[Psychopav]

I think the Steelers intended to extend him before his contract expired, they were not prepared to pay the price he demanded though. Understandably caught them by surprise. I thought his demands were ridiculous.

And they will get a comp #3 for him, he will get paid. Mike Wallace is 5x the player Robert Meachem is and look at that contract. Jennings and Bowe will sign first, but Wallace should see the 3rd biggest WR contract in this haul. Given the premium on WR's that will be a pretty penny.

Pittsburgh played this right, Wallace played it wrong.

First you say he's going to get a huge contract and then you say he played it wrong.

That's because all WR's with talent get paid, probably cost himself a few pennies with his act over the last year, and may need to go to a bad team to get that $ now.

If the crap VJax pulled didn't prevent him from getting a huge contract it's not going to hurt Wallace.

He had to go to a bad team to get the $ though, Wallace may have to follow suit.

I'd love to see him in Silver & Black...

Oh please no.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Please draft 7 more versions of Mike Adams, love the pick just as much now as I did then.

You mean our rookie of the year?

Shows how awful of a draft it was for you guys last year. Still think DeCastro will be a baller though, even more angry now the Browns took Weeden instead of him.

WAY too early to determine that.1st round - DeCastro - INJURED. Jury's out on him, played like crap when he had the chance, but had no time to prepare.2nd round - Adams - hot and cold, was very good in run blocking, lousy in pass blocking. I think he's our RT down the road, though, so I'm not going to argue with this pick yet.3rd round - Sean Spence - INJURED. Missed the entire year. Still think he has the chance to be a very good player in this league, though I still have questions on how he'll be used in LeBeau's system.Beyond that, Ta'Amu has had issues, but went way later than originally projected and has enough physical ability that he's still around the team even after all the chicanery he pulled. Rainey was an afterthought and by the end of the year, was returning kicks, getting snaps out of the backfield, being used in the slot, etc. Still think he will be a poor man's Percy Harvin before all is said and done. Liked the pick then, like it now.

What do you mean by Ta'Amu is "still around the team". I swore they released him.I agree this class is way too early to grade based on how injuries played out, but Ta'Amu looks like a wasted pick to me.

 

[MAC_32]

Fairly sure Ta'Amu was cut.What you saw out of Adams is the same as what he's always been, against any semblance of speed in pass pro he is obliterated. Lousy pick.Wasn't a fan of either the Rainey and Spence picks, unfair to judge Spence obviously and Rainey is who he was this year.

 

[H8fulHuck]

Wallace is good for 9 routes and quick screens. What teams have QBs who throw a good long ball and can buy time to throw it deep?He could be deadly in WAS with RGIII. The way they run the ball, Wallace would have to get several chances each game. Snyder doesn't mind paying for flash. Just sayin.

 

[treat88]

Fairly sure Ta'Amu was cut.What you saw out of Adams is the same as what he's always been, against any semblance of speed in pass pro he is obliterated. Lousy pick.Wasn't a fan of either the Rainey and Spence picks, unfair to judge Spence obviously and Rainey is who he was this year.

They released him 11/12 and resigned him to the practice squad 11/15 once he had cleared waivers.They then activated him to the active roster on 12/28.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Ta'Amu was cut, cleared waivers and was signed to PIT practice squad.

 

[MAC_32]

Fairly sure Ta'Amu was cut.What you saw out of Adams is the same as what he's always been, against any semblance of speed in pass pro he is obliterated. Lousy pick.Wasn't a fan of either the Rainey and Spence picks, unfair to judge Spence obviously and Rainey is who he was this year.

They released him 11/12 and resigned him to the practice squad 11/15 once he had cleared waivers.They then activated him to the active roster on 12/28.

 

[Donnybrook]

I would still love to see Wallace in Detroit. We need a #2 BADLY.

Detroit would be a perfect place for him. He could do some real damage with teams forced to double cover Calvin all game long. With a lot of space, Wallace could be a MAJOR weapon, so long as he catches and holds onto the ball.

Too bad the Lions can't even afford to pay for his airfare to Detriot. Lions are reported 1.1 M over the cap.

 

[Touchdown There]

Initial reports have Wallace at 5 years, 65 million with 30 million guaranteed. A lot of people in this thread said he was not worth $11 million per year and that Wallace was over-rating his free market rate. The rate is $13 million on the open market and the Steeler's screwed Wallace last year because they could not afford a player of this caliber in his prime.

As I mentioned in the first post. Big Ben wants to keep Wallace. As I mentioned in the OP, this is called parity in the league.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

As I mentioned in the first post.

You mean the one you edited as recently as today?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Cap or no, the Steelers are not giving Wallace a huge multiyear deal at $10 - 12 million per with a ton of guaranteed money.

This report has been overblown. Negotiations start high on the player side and low on the team side. They find a number in the middle somewhere.

 

[cstu]

Are all you Steelers fans on here going to forgive him when he returns? Or is he dead to you for trying to make his money?

love to have him back. nothing against him. he played holdem and went in with a pair of 2's.

I wouldn't say he's lost yet - let's see what he gets on the river next year.

 

[Touchdown There]

Cap or no, the Steelers are not giving Wallace a huge multiyear deal at $10 - 12 million per with a ton of guaranteed money.

This report has been overblown. Negotiations start high on the player side and low on the team side. They find a number in the middle somewhere.

I think it is funny too. The Steelers could have had him locked down at those numbers last year but they cant afford good players.

 

[Touchdown There]

Are all you Steelers fans on here going to forgive him when he returns? Or is he dead to you for trying to make his money?

love to have him back. nothing against him. he played holdem and went in with a pair of 2's.

I wouldn't say he's lost yet - let's see what he gets on the river next year.

Duece on the river to make dueces full!

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Cap or no, the Steelers are not giving Wallace a huge multiyear deal at $10 - 12 million per with a ton of guaranteed money.

This report has been overblown. Negotiations start high on the player side and low on the team side. They find a number in the middle somewhere.

I think it is funny too. The Steelers could have had him locked down at those numbers last year but they cant afford good players.

Why would we want him locked down at upwards 12 million a year? We don't.

 

[Acrobat7]

Cap or no, the Steelers are not giving Wallace a huge multiyear deal at $10 - 12 million per with a ton of guaranteed money.

This report has been overblown. Negotiations start high on the player side and low on the team side. They find a number in the middle somewhere.

I think it is funny too. The Steelers could have had him locked down at those numbers last year but they cant afford good players.

Why would we want him locked down at upwards 12 million a year? We don't.

TT is anti-Steelers and claims they're broke. nothing to see here.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Wallace is a very good WR but the Steelers have let this go on for a long time. The curious thing is they didn't bother to ink him to an extension before the draft, virtually allowing anyone to claim him for first and third round picks and no-one took a nibble, very puzzling.

The Steelers are infamous for not putting up with crap from anyone who has issues, Plax, Santonio, and any vet who asks for more than the Steelers want or can afford to pay so their has to be something else that we are not hearing about with this guy because he's really good and if their wasn't any baggage then they would have had this thing done long ago.

I could figure out why in the world they didn't get this done but now I'm sure that their has to be something else that we simply are not hearing about Wallace.

I know Antonio Brown is next up for a contract extension and then their is Emmanuel Sanders contract due soon as well but I don't think this is a cold hard case of hard ball negotiations because someone at the end of the first round would have taken Wallace.

Pro Football Focus did a series of articles pertaining to receiving and Wallace scored very high on multiple lists for all WRs in the NFL, he's very good and I think he's better than some Pittsburgh fans realize which makes this whole contract issue even more puzzling to me.

Do any homers have any insight as to what might be behind the Steelers reluctance to sign this kid to an extension?

He's not a great route runner and drops too many balls to be a true #1 WR. In fact, despite Wallace's speed advantage, I think Antonio Brown is a better overall receiver. I suspect the Steelers may agree. They're going to be in the exact same situation with Brown next year, so they have to think long term. I read that they're offering something in the 5 yr/$40 million range with half of it guaranteed. They think that's what he's worth. Wallace appears to want something in the $60 million range over 5 years, with at least half guaranteed. That's just what I've been hearing, no link, so I don't know that that's 100% true, but if it is, it explains the impasse. The Steelers simply are not going to overpay a WR. It won't happen. If Wallace won't take less than what he perceives he's worth, the deal won't get done. Bottom line is that he isn't worth the money he thinks he should get, so he can either sign the tender, possibly get franchised next year, then hit free agency in 2014 and hope to break the bank, or he can take a deal now for less than what he thinks he should be paid.

looks like it was true.of course, what did he end up at last year?

I can't remember how all this turned out.

 

[Touchdown There]

Wallace is a very good WR but the Steelers have let this go on for a long time. The curious thing is they didn't bother to ink him to an extension before the draft, virtually allowing anyone to claim him for first and third round picks and no-one took a nibble, very puzzling.

The Steelers are infamous for not putting up with crap from anyone who has issues, Plax, Santonio, and any vet who asks for more than the Steelers want or can afford to pay so their has to be something else that we are not hearing about with this guy because he's really good and if their wasn't any baggage then they would have had this thing done long ago.

I could figure out why in the world they didn't get this done but now I'm sure that their has to be something else that we simply are not hearing about Wallace.

I know Antonio Brown is next up for a contract extension and then their is Emmanuel Sanders contract due soon as well but I don't think this is a cold hard case of hard ball negotiations because someone at the end of the first round would have taken Wallace.

Pro Football Focus did a series of articles pertaining to receiving and Wallace scored very high on multiple lists for all WRs in the NFL, he's very good and I think he's better than some Pittsburgh fans realize which makes this whole contract issue even more puzzling to me.

Do any homers have any insight as to what might be behind the Steelers reluctance to sign this kid to an extension?

He's not a great route runner and drops too many balls to be a true #1 WR. In fact, despite Wallace's speed advantage, I think Antonio Brown is a better overall receiver. I suspect the Steelers may agree. They're going to be in the exact same situation with Brown next year, so they have to think long term. I read that they're offering something in the 5 yr/$40 million range with half of it guaranteed. They think that's what he's worth. Wallace appears to want something in the $60 million range over 5 years, with at least half guaranteed. That's just what I've been hearing, no link, so I don't know that that's 100% true, but if it is, it explains the impasse. The Steelers simply are not going to overpay a WR. It won't happen. If Wallace won't take less than what he perceives he's worth, the deal won't get done. Bottom line is that he isn't worth the money he thinks he should get, so he can either sign the tender, possibly get franchised next year, then hit free agency in 2014 and hope to break the bank, or he can take a deal now for less than what he thinks he should be paid.

looks like it was true.of course, what did he end up at last year?

I can't remember how all this turned out.

They rammed him in the brown star for 2.8 mil Larry.