Steelers Over the Patriots (1 Viewer)

[Evilgrin72]

Philly's O line is much better and should be better against the blitz.  Philly's facing them in a possible letdown week, after a big win against a team they'd been talking about and preparing for for two weeks with a bye.  Philly's got more playmakers if they get behind, and has been outscoring opponents badly.  Philly's got healthy corners and will be able to sneak a safety in the box.  A lot of people are going to be high on the Steelers after they ended the Patriots's streak, but I think the Philly game is going to be completely different.  I like Philly and would give the points, but if I were betting it, I'd wait to bet the game until the line moved a little in Pittsburgh's direction.

This after Philly was taken to OT by the Browns 2 weeks ago and winning by only 5 against the JLewis-less Ravens?

Philly came off their bye week and crushed Carolina, then almost lost to Cleveland. Pittsburgh came off their bye week and crushed the Patriots, then plays Philly. Looking closer, in the Cleveland game, Philly jumped out to a 21-10 lead early, scoring on three of their first four possessions, but got themselves in trouble when Garcia, TO's former QB, went on a tear.The Ravens are letting up 13 points per game, 27 of which came from KC. The Eagles scored 15 against them, which is above that average. I'm not a Philly apologist; they shouldn't have let Kyle Boller score at all. But they still had a good game. I'm also not a Pittsburgh hater. The Pats-Steelers rivalry has been pretty one sided until yesterday, especially during the Kordell era, so I don't really hate them, although their fans certainly hate the Pats and Patriots fans. And I'm not bitter about yesterday - you won't find many unhappy fans in New England right now. I'm just not sold on them. Pittsburgh has beaten Oakland, Miami, Cinci, Cleveland, Dallas - none of which is a great team. They came off their bye to crush a beaten up Pats team that lost both their starting corners, both their starting offensive tackles, their best WR, and their starting running back. I'm not taking anything away from that win - Pittsburgh did everything they were supposed to do, and did it exceptionally well - but the Patriots couldn't put up their best competition. They're coming off a huge win after a bye week. I see a big letdown here. Someone else will end Philly's win streak.

If the Steelers win this week, it'll be... "Oh, they beat an Eagles team without its top running threats. Westbrook is nursing injuries and Correll Buckhalter is out and yada yada yada."No idea what this team has to do to be viewed as a legit contender. Maybe if they win 12 games??

 

[Evilgrin72]

Sounds like the Patriots aren't as good at being graceful in defeat as some of their fans on this board.

PITTSBURGH - The New England Patriots were more generous with turnovers Sunday than they were with compliments for Steelers rookie quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.Roethlisberger outplayed Tom Brady, who threw two interceptions, one of which was returned for a touchdown by Deshea Townsend. Brady also lost a fumble as the Patriots' record 21-game winning streak ended with a 34-20 loss that wasn't even that close.Roethlisberger's passer rating was 126.4 to Brady's 72.9."He made some nice throws," Brady said. "He gave their guys a good chance to win."New England coach Bill Belichick was expected to have a full package of different looks to confuse Roethlisberger. Between quickly falling behind by 18 points and losing key personnel to injuries, the Patriots weren't able to do many of the things they'd planned."He made enough plays to win," was Belichick's terse evaluation of Roethlisberger.Patriots linebacker Mike Vrabel, an ex-Steeler, said, "I don't think we ever put him in a position where he had to win the game. He made some good throws and his numbers were good but I don't think we made him win the game. He handed it off and he didn't fumble it when he handed it to Duce (Staley) and Jerome (Bettis)."

He kicked your tails, just suck it up and admit it.

This is how the Patriots talk after every game. That's higher praise than Belichick gives Brady.

NO doubt - the Patriots almost NEVER talk about their opponents - that's why they win. They are confident that if they make the plays they are supposed to, and do what they are supoposed to, they will win the game or at least be there in the end, regardless of how many good plays the other team makes. They simply don't heap praise, or criticism, on their opponents.

I actually saw Belichick, McGinest, and Brady on Sportscenter last night basically saying "We got whupped out there. Pittsburgh was the better team and we lost."They took it like men and were gracious in defeat. Almost all the Pats fans on this board acted the same way. I imagine after 21 wins (and a Red Sox WS victory,) it's easier to be a good sport, but I think the Pats and their fans have been very good losers, gracious in defeat, making no excuses.

 

[Jason Wood]

Philly's O line is much better and should be better against the blitz.  Philly's facing them in a possible letdown week, after a big win against a team they'd been talking about and preparing for for two weeks with a bye.  Philly's got more playmakers if they get behind, and has been outscoring opponents badly.  Philly's got healthy corners and will be able to sneak a safety in the box.  A lot of people are going to be high on the Steelers after they ended the Patriots's streak, but I think the Philly game is going to be completely different.  I like Philly and would give the points, but if I were betting it, I'd wait to bet the game until the line moved a little in Pittsburgh's direction.

This after Philly was taken to OT by the Browns 2 weeks ago and winning by only 5 against the JLewis-less Ravens?

Philly came off their bye week and crushed Carolina, then almost lost to Cleveland. Pittsburgh came off their bye week and crushed the Patriots, then plays Philly. Looking closer, in the Cleveland game, Philly jumped out to a 21-10 lead early, scoring on three of their first four possessions, but got themselves in trouble when Garcia, TO's former QB, went on a tear.The Ravens are letting up 13 points per game, 27 of which came from KC. The Eagles scored 15 against them, which is above that average. I'm not a Philly apologist; they shouldn't have let Kyle Boller score at all. But they still had a good game. I'm also not a Pittsburgh hater. The Pats-Steelers rivalry has been pretty one sided until yesterday, especially during the Kordell era, so I don't really hate them, although their fans certainly hate the Pats and Patriots fans. And I'm not bitter about yesterday - you won't find many unhappy fans in New England right now. I'm just not sold on them. Pittsburgh has beaten Oakland, Miami, Cinci, Cleveland, Dallas - none of which is a great team. They came off their bye to crush a beaten up Pats team that lost both their starting corners, both their starting offensive tackles, their best WR, and their starting running back. I'm not taking anything away from that win - Pittsburgh did everything they were supposed to do, and did it exceptionally well - but the Patriots couldn't put up their best competition. They're coming off a huge win after a bye week. I see a big letdown here. Someone else will end Philly's win streak.

If the Steelers win this week, it'll be... "Oh, they beat an Eagles team without its top running threats. Westbrook is nursing injuries and Correll Buckhalter is out and yada yada yada."No idea what this team has to do to be viewed as a legit contender. Maybe if they win 12 games??

They should ABSOLUTELY be viewed as legit at this point. And I can tell you that if we lose in Pittsburgh this weekend, you won't hear any excuses from this Eagles fan.

 

[bryhamm]

hey bryhamm...... not to get off the steelers impressive win.. but..who tyhe hell is that gorgeous woman on you sig???? man!! thats hott

You mean the one where it says "Kelly Brook"?

 

[bostonfred2]

They came off their bye to crush a beaten up Pats team that lost both their starting corners, both their starting offensive tackles, their best WR, and their starting running back. I'm not taking anything away from that win - Pittsburgh did everything they were supposed to do, and did it exceptionally well - but the Patriots couldn't put up their best competition.

Don't say you aren't taking anything away from that win and then bring up all of the Patriots injuires.Don't forget that the Steelers were also playing without their starting CB, RG, NT and LB. Not to mention starting a rookie QB with a total of 5 starts to his credit.It looked to me that the Steelers were the more physical team yesterday.

Absolutely. I wrote a long thread on why the Steelers They played a great game, and did everything a good team should do to win. Don't try to play the no respect card on a Patriots fan. I'm not taking anything away from the team, nor blaming injuries for the loss. All I'm saying is that I have no basis for comparison as to whether they would have manhandled a team at full strength, and thus cannot comment on whether their blitz is really that good, or whether the Pats O line was really that bad. I'd prefer to find out that their blitz is really that good - the Patriots line is decimated right now, and I think that's a huge issue with my team going forward, but it'd be nice to find out that it was just the Pittsburgh blitz, and Plaxico having a great game, instead of the Patriots' line and secondary sucking for the next several weeks, which I'm afraid they will. So when I say that I'm not taking away anything from the Steelers, I'm saying that they played a great game and deserved to win. I'm not going to say they beat an undefeated team at full strength, because they didn't, and I'm not going to put money on their ability to do it again this week against the Eagles. Does that make sense?