Steelers sign Davenport (1 Viewer)

[CalBear]

Very true. I only see Davenport getting the short yardage work if Parker gets pooped.

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A big back like Najeh is clearly being signed to push it through the tight spots.

Actually, I think he'll be used as a third-down back. He'll get the occasional dump-off.

 

[pinequick]

The goalline carry when the fumble occurred....Haynes was in. Will the Davenport signing likely result in the end of goalline carries for Verron?

Verron was in but so were 10 other guys on offense. As the announcers stated and the public saw, it was mishandled by Batch and never had a chance to get to the RBTom

Geez louise, how many times are people in this thread going to misinterpret this guy's post??All he is saying that Haynes was in on the goalline play (when the fumble happened to occur--not that it was in any way Haynes' fault). So, if Haynes is in on goalline plays, does Davenport's signing indicate that Davenport will fulfill that role now for the Steelers?

 

[Two Deep]

I've had a talk with Willie at my fanatsy football practice and he has assured me that he will now run them in from outside the ten so that there is no more speculation.

 

[stbugs]

The goalline carry when the fumble occurred....Haynes was in. Will the Davenport signing likely result in the end of goalline carries for Verron?

Verron was in but so were 10 other guys on offense. As the announcers stated and the public saw, it was mishandled by Batch and never had a chance to get to the RBTom

Geez louise, how many times are people in this thread going to misinterpret this guy's post??All he is saying that Haynes was in on the goalline play (when the fumble happened to occur--not that it was in any way Haynes' fault). So, if Haynes is in on goalline plays, does Davenport's signing indicate that Davenport will fulfill that role now for the Steelers?

Probably the same amount of times that people will misinterpret a team signing a waived player as the new starter, 3rd down back or goal line back without ever even practicing one down.The Steelers traded for Patrick Cobb as a potential RB and waived him because they thought Najeh was better than him. It doesn't mean Najeh will get any opportunity at all. He might be waived in another week. There are tons of examples, Patrick Cobb :coughcough: where teams take chances on players who aren't getting paid diddly and run them in and out of town very quickly.Maybe Najeh will have some impact, but based on my memory, or lack thereof, of waived players getting picked up during the season predicts that he won't do much of anything.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Very true. I only see Davenport getting the short yardage work if Parker gets pooped.

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A big back like Najeh is clearly being signed to push it through the tight spots.

Actually, I think he'll be used as a third-down back. He'll get the occasional dump-off.

Not bad..

 

[SteelerMurf]

Najeh will get a lot of short yardage plays and will be a change of pace back.

Parker had 30+ touches last night because the Steelers have no real #2 RB. Najeh can be a #2 and is better than any other RB behind Parker on the Steeler roster. He was not signed to sit on the sideline with Duce, sorry FWP owners, Najeh is gonna get close to 7 touches a game, but be happy cause Parker can't keep getting 30 touches.

 

[jurb26]

So how many moves for a "big" RB will Pitt have to make before Parker owners realize taht the team just isn't that dang comfortable running Parker in those short yd and GL situations?

Don't worry about us Parker owners, jurb. We got him in the 3rd round and if he gets his 25 touches a game we will be doing just fine. You better worry about your boy Ronnie Brown and his 2 ypc average last night and how awulf the Mia line looked. Us Fast Willie owners are feeling just fine, thank you. We appreciate your concern though.

...and just like he should, Brown (a first rounder) outscored Parker (a second or third rounder) by a fair margin.

 

[jurb26]

Najeh will get a lot of short yardage plays and will be a change of pace back.

Parker had 30+ touches last night because the Steelers have no real #2 RB. Najeh can be a #2 and is better than any other RB behind Parker on the Steeler roster. He was not signed to sit on the sideline with Duce, sorry FWP owners, Najeh is gonna get close to 7 touches a game, but be happy cause Parker can't keep getting 30 touches.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Anytime it comes up that a steelers back will take carries away from the starter, you have to keep in mind the insane amount of carries that Steelers backs get. Over the past 2 years, they've run the ball 618 and 549 times. Even if FWP loses 30-40% of the carries to Duce/Dookie (or a combo of both), that still leaves 350 carries for FWP.

IMO, the Dookie signing is not a threat to FWP at all. It's to provide depth that Steelers will need and will use as they approach 600 carries again this year.

 

[DropKick]

I'd do that to if my RB1 called for a breather on 1st and goal at the 1.Of course the braintrust that makes up the posters on this site tell me there's nothing to worry about, he was just gassed.

Was that what happened? I really couldn't tell but I thought Parker did call for a breather. He was in on the carry before which was from I think the 7 yard line and almost scored. I was wondering if he was taken out or called for a breather. To be honest, he may not have been gassed, it was a pretty solid run and he might have gotten knocked around a bit. I have seen RBs come out of the game for a play if they get stung if you will.Then again, no RB in the league will average 29 carries a game or 464 for a year, although posters on this site also seem to think that every starter gets 90% of their team carries and 25+ rushes a game.For a 14th round pick, I am pretty happy with Parker and thought he looked great against a defense that clearly was playing against the run and giving Batch opportunities. He didn't go down on the first contact and finished runs well.

Parker? 14th round? Gimme a break, what kind of league is that?

 

[DropKick]

So how many moves for a "big" RB will Pitt have to make before Parker owners realize taht the team just isn't that dang comfortable running Parker in those short yd and GL situations?

Don't worry about us Parker owners, jurb. We got him in the 3rd round and if he gets his 25 touches a game we will be doing just fine. You better worry about your boy Ronnie Brown and his 2 ypc average last night and how awulf the Mia line looked. Us Fast Willie owners are feeling just fine, thank you. We appreciate your concern though.

...and just like he should, Brown (a first rounder) outscored Parker (a second or third rounder) by a fair margin.

Depends on your scoring system... but 30 yards... not very impressive. TDs aren't that easy to predict. I wouldn't be all that optimistic with the Brown (Dolphins/Culpepper) performance.

 

[jurb26]

So how many moves for a "big" RB will Pitt have to make before Parker owners realize taht the team just isn't that dang comfortable running Parker in those short yd and GL situations?

Don't worry about us Parker owners, jurb. We got him in the 3rd round and if he gets his 25 touches a game we will be doing just fine. You better worry about your boy Ronnie Brown and his 2 ypc average last night and how awulf the Mia line looked. Us Fast Willie owners are feeling just fine, thank you. We appreciate your concern though.

...and just like he should, Brown (a first rounder) outscored Parker (a second or third rounder) by a fair margin.

Depends on your scoring system... but 30 yards... not very impressive. TDs aren't that easy to predict. I wouldn't be all that optimistic with the Brown (Dolphins/Culpepper) performance.

Brown had 62 yds... why is it that people keep forgetting the Rec yds?30 rush yds + 32 rec yds + 2 TD = 18 FP

 

[stbugs]

Anytime it comes up that a steelers back will take carries away from the starter, you have to keep in mind the insane amount of carries that Steelers backs get. Over the past 2 years, they've run the ball 618 and 549 times. Even if FWP loses 30-40% of the carries to Duce/Dookie (or a combo of both), that still leaves 350 carries for FWP. IMO, the Dookie signing is not a threat to FWP at all. It's to provide depth that Steelers will need and will use as they approach 600 carries again this year.

They traded for Patrick Cobbs a few days ago, so obviously they were looking for more RB depth. They then thought Davenport was a better pickup than Cobbs, so they waived Cobbs and signed the pooper.I still don't understand why people assume just because a team signs someone that they are guaranteed anything. Some people have him penciled in for replacing Haynes and being the Bus part deux. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he doesn't make it the whole year with the Steelers. Do you think they gave him a signing bonus or are paying him more than the minimum?Last year Duce was getting paid more than Najeh is getting paid now and yet they inactivated him quite a bit, so Najeh is signed, but he might do nothing. I am not saying he has no chance, but if he can't stay with a team like GB then the board hype for him is flying.

 

[stbugs]

I'd do that to if my RB1 called for a breather on 1st and goal at the 1.Of course the braintrust that makes up the posters on this site tell me there's nothing to worry about, he was just gassed.

Was that what happened? I really couldn't tell but I thought Parker did call for a breather. He was in on the carry before which was from I think the 7 yard line and almost scored. I was wondering if he was taken out or called for a breather. To be honest, he may not have been gassed, it was a pretty solid run and he might have gotten knocked around a bit. I have seen RBs come out of the game for a play if they get stung if you will.Then again, no RB in the league will average 29 carries a game or 464 for a year, although posters on this site also seem to think that every starter gets 90% of their team carries and 25+ rushes a game.For a 14th round pick, I am pretty happy with Parker and thought he looked great against a defense that clearly was playing against the run and giving Batch opportunities. He didn't go down on the first contact and finished runs well.

Parker? 14th round? Gimme a break, what kind of league is that?

Ever hear of keeper leagues where you can keep people based on where you drafted people the year before?Don't be jealous that you didn't have the foresight last year to draft FWP late like I did. Most people tend to not look at the ailing vets like the Bus and Duce and realize that the kid making flashes in the pre-season could easily get an opportunity that year and beyond.

 

[stbugs]

So how many moves for a "big" RB will Pitt have to make before Parker owners realize taht the team just isn't that dang comfortable running Parker in those short yd and GL situations?

Don't worry about us Parker owners, jurb. We got him in the 3rd round and if he gets his 25 touches a game we will be doing just fine. You better worry about your boy Ronnie Brown and his 2 ypc average last night and how awulf the Mia line looked. Us Fast Willie owners are feeling just fine, thank you. We appreciate your concern though.

...and just like he should, Brown (a first rounder) outscored Parker (a second or third rounder) by a fair margin.

Depends on your scoring system... but 30 yards... not very impressive. TDs aren't that easy to predict. I wouldn't be all that optimistic with the Brown (Dolphins/Culpepper) performance.

Brown had 62 yds... why is it that people keep forgetting the Rec yds?30 rush yds + 32 rec yds = 2 TD = 18 FP

Hey, it isn't surprising if he doesn't know about keepers either. He might not have realized that the same guy who runs the ball is allowed to catch the ball even though he is lined up behind the QB. It is an honest mistake.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Anytime it comes up that a steelers back will take carries away from the starter, you have to keep in mind the insane amount of carries that Steelers backs get. Over the past 2 years, they've run the ball 618 and 549 times. Even if FWP loses 30-40% of the carries to Duce/Dookie (or a combo of both), that still leaves 350 carries for FWP. IMO, the Dookie signing is not a threat to FWP at all. It's to provide depth that Steelers will need and will use as they approach 600 carries again this year.

Finally some sanity in here.

 

[pinequick]

Anytime it comes up that a steelers back will take carries away from the starter, you have to keep in mind the insane amount of carries that Steelers backs get. Over the past 2 years, they've run the ball 618 and 549 times. Even if FWP loses 30-40% of the carries to Duce/Dookie (or a combo of both), that still leaves 350 carries for FWP.

IMO, the Dookie signing is not a threat to FWP at all. It's to provide depth that Steelers will need and will use as they approach 600 carries again this year.

Finally some sanity in here.

Not sure anybody is worried about the *volume* of carries that Davenport might siphon away from FWP. It’s the possible geographic location (READ: inside the 5) of those pilfered carries that would have me concerned if I owned FWP.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Anytime it comes up that a steelers back will take carries away from the starter, you have to keep in mind the insane amount of carries that Steelers backs get. Over the past 2 years, they've run the ball 618 and 549 times. Even if FWP loses 30-40% of the carries to Duce/Dookie (or a combo of both), that still leaves 350 carries for FWP.

IMO, the Dookie signing is not a threat to FWP at all. It's to provide depth that Steelers will need and will use as they approach 600 carries again this year.

Finally some sanity in here.

Not sure anybody is worried about the *volume* of carries that Davenport might siphon away from FWP. It’s the possible geographic location (READ: inside the 5) of those pilfered carries that would have me concerned if I owned FWP.

That's fair, but I guess it depends on where you set the bar originally for FWP. If you had him in the 10-15 range, with some concerns that he may lose some goalline carries (like most people had him most preseason) I don't think he moves much from there. If the last preseason game and the Miami game had you really gulping the kool-aid that he's going to be a tier 2, 5-10 running back, then you may want to temper some of the enthusiam. I don't think that the combo of Dookie/Duce/Haynes is any more of a threat to the number or type of carries than FWP will get than the combo of Duce/Haynes/Cobb was. He was signed for Depth. He'll probably see 100-125 carries this year, none of which FWP would have seen anyway.

ETA: This signing (like many others have said) speaks the loudest to me about what they think about Duce this year. He's old, injury prone, and he sucks. At least with Dookie, he's young, injury prone, and sucks. Slight improvement.

 

[The Jerk]

I see Davenport's addition as a mixed bag for Parker owners. The negative is that there is another RB who could take away some or all goal line carries. The upside is that Parker needs help to make it through the season. Willie owners want him to be at or near his best in the final quarter of the season. That's not going to happen if he gets 32 touches a game. I expect to see 18-20 carries a game for Willie, with 3-5 receptions added. I wouldn't rule out all runs inside the 5, but I wouldn't be remotely surprised if he doesn't get the ball at the 1.

Parker looks like a good candidate to get 100+ yards a game. If he can get 7-8 TDs, he'd flirt with top 10 status. Not bad for a player most picked at least 25 players into a draft.

 

[jurb26]

That's fair, but I guess it depends on where you set the bar originally for FWP. If you had him in the 10-15 range, with some concerns that he may lose some goalline carries (like most people had him most preseason) I don't think he moves much from there. If the last preseason game and the Miami game had you really gulping the kool-aid that he's going to be a tier 2, 5-10 running back, then you may want to temper some of the enthusiam.

I don't think that the combo of Dookie/Duce/Haynes is any more of a threat to the number or type of carries than FWP will get than the combo of Duce/Haynes/Cobb was. He was signed for Depth. He'll probably see 100-125 carries this year, none of which FWP would have seen anyway.

ETA: This signing (like many others have said) speaks the loudest to me about what they think about Duce this year. He's old, injury prone, and he sucks. At least with Dookie, he's young, injury prone, and sucks. Slight improvement.

Well if you read through any of the threads regarding Parker the last 2 days. I think it's rather obvious that a HIGH amount of people are thinking he is a top 10 RB this year. For a guy who has questionable GL attempts, that seems risky to me. Especially when the team his is on has at several moments in time looked to find a "bigger" power RB.

 

[Armando]

I won't put any RB that doesn't get 3rd downs and GL carries as a RB1. It remains to be see whether Parker gets the latter. If he does, then you can obviously reassess the situation.

I think case in point was shown in Thursday's game. A poor game by Ronnie Brown stat wise still outscored a good game by Willie Parker.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

A poor game by Ronnie Brown stat wise still outscored a good game by Willie Parker.

I'm not sure with Batch in there that's a fair assesment. I'd have to think the Dolphins committed to stopping Parker and figured the if the Steelers were going to win, Batch would be the one to do it to them and not FWP. I'd think with Ben in there that the Dolphins would have more to worry about that stopping Parker. Turns out they did with Batch too, but it doesn't seem like that's what they planned/schemed for.

 

[The Jerk]

I won't put any RB that doesn't get 3rd downs and GL carries as a RB1. It remains to be see whether Parker gets the latter. If he does, then you can obviously reassess the situation.I think case in point was shown in Thursday's game. A poor game by Ronnie Brown stat wise still outscored a good game by Willie Parker.

Yours is a reasonable position to take, but with question marks surrounding virtually every running back outside of the top 5 (add Tiki and Rudi to the mix), Parker is not vastly inferior to a RB1 either. I like him especially for teams that chose (or felt forced) to select WRs early in drafts.More importantly, Parker's value changes widely in different scoring formats:Yardage heavy - top 15 wth definite chance for top 10TD heavy - top 20 with virtually no chance for top 10Then there are the TD heavy leagues with bonuses for longer scores which makes Parker a better choice than TD heavy leagues but then offers a fairly inconsistent player at a position known for consistency.

 

[jurb26]

A poor game by Ronnie Brown stat wise still outscored a good game by Willie Parker.

I'm not sure with Batch in there that's a fair assesment. I'd have to think the Dolphins committed to stopping Parker and figured the if the Steelers were going to win, Batch would be the one to do it to them and not FWP. I'd think with Ben in there that the Dolphins would have more to worry about that stopping Parker. Turns out they did with Batch too, but it doesn't seem like that's what they planned/schemed for.

Actually, I didn't see that at all. Pitt lined up with 8 in the box all night long while Mia never seemed to do it all.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

A poor game by Ronnie Brown stat wise still outscored a good game by Willie Parker.

I'm not sure with Batch in there that's a fair assesment. I'd have to think the Dolphins committed to stopping Parker and figured the if the Steelers were going to win, Batch would be the one to do it to them and not FWP. I'd think with Ben in there that the Dolphins would have more to worry about that stopping Parker. Turns out they did with Batch too, but it doesn't seem like that's what they planned/schemed for.

Actually, I didn't see that at all. Pitt lined up with 8 in the box all night long while Mia never seemed to do it all.

I'd have to go back and watch again, as I wasn't exactly sober, but it seemed like Parker was seeing a lot of traffic up front, especially in the half. But, I'll defer to someone who may have been less inebriated.

 

[jurb26]

A poor game by Ronnie Brown stat wise still outscored a good game by Willie Parker.

I'm not sure with Batch in there that's a fair assesment. I'd have to think the Dolphins committed to stopping Parker and figured the if the Steelers were going to win, Batch would be the one to do it to them and not FWP. I'd think with Ben in there that the Dolphins would have more to worry about that stopping Parker. Turns out they did with Batch too, but it doesn't seem like that's what they planned/schemed for.

Actually, I didn't see that at all. Pitt lined up with 8 in the box all night long while Mia never seemed to do it all.

I'd have to go back and watch again, as I wasn't exactly sober, but it seemed like Parker was seeing a lot of traffic up front, especially in the half. But, I'll defer to someone who may have been less inebriated.

Running was tough for both teams, no doubt.

 

[Koya]

I won't put any RB that doesn't get 3rd downs and GL carries as a RB1. It remains to be see whether Parker gets the latter. If he does, then you can obviously reassess the situation.I think case in point was shown in Thursday's game. A poor game by Ronnie Brown stat wise still outscored a good game by Willie Parker.

Yours is a reasonable position to take, but with question marks surrounding virtually every running back outside of the top 5 (add Tiki and Rudi to the mix), Parker is not vastly inferior to a RB1 either. I like him especially for teams that chose (or felt forced) to select WRs early in drafts.More importantly, Parker's value changes widely in different scoring formats:Yardage heavy - top 15 wth definite chance for top 10TD heavy - top 20 with virtually no chance for top 10Then there are the TD heavy leagues with bonuses for longer scores which makes Parker a better choice than TD heavy leagues but then offers a fairly inconsistent player at a position known for consistency.

Actually, the 3rd down issue is silly. Goal line carries are one thing, because they give you a very good chance to get a good bunch of points. 3rd downs however, are no different than other downs in regard to touches. If one RB gets 29 carries and 3 catches but plays no third downs, and another gets 22 carries and 4 catches but never comes out of the game, I would rather have the first.But goal line, again, is different. As of right now, Parker will have a chance for GL carries and we have to see what happens. It is no guarantee but it is definately possible for Willie to get his share.And in regard to davenport, the guy has NEVER been able to stay healthy, EVER. He would come in for Green and within a game be dinged.

 

[CowboyFan]

I watched the game, and I think Parker did great. He would have scored had he not gotten tackled on the 1 yard line. I was simply stating why I would think they might would put a GL back in for Parker. I never said he wasn't good enough to do it himself. The only reasons I could think of for why they would put someone other than him in at the GL is to either give him a breather, use another big back to keep Parker healthy, or to put in a bigger back to move the pile. Either way, I think Parker will see some situations around the GL.

really? this "tackling" seems to be a problem. i wonder if he would have scored on every run if he just hadn't been tackled?

 

[Tau837]

Under Cowher, only 2 RBs have reached 300 carries in a season. Barry Foster did it in 1992, and Bettis did it 4 times, plus had 299 carries one other season. Parker's 255 carries last season was the first time since 2000 that a Pittsburgh RB had more than 250 carries.

I definitely think Cowher will be inclined to share carries and use all of his backs, including Haynes, Staley, and now Davenport. Unfortunately for Parker, a logical way to split carries is to give Haynes a third down role and to give Davenport a short yardage/goal line role. And any of them could be used periodically in any game situation to give Parker a breather.

Before the season, I predicted him for ~275 carries and 20 catches. I'd probably nudge those numbers up a bit considering the great start he is off to after one game. But I wouldn't bump them too much.

 

[JohnnyU]

[Hi jurb,Thanks for the posts. What makes you think Parker won't get the goal line and short yardage carries?J

Wasn't parker on the sideline when Pitt was in a goal line situation on Thurs night? FWP owners better get used to the idea of very few Tds this year. Unless he breaks severl runs to the house, FWP will get plenty of yds, but few scores in 2006.

 

[Koya]

[Hi jurb,Thanks for the posts. What makes you think Parker won't get the goal line and short yardage carries?J

Wasn't parker on the sideline when Pitt was in a goal line situation on Thurs night? FWP owners better get used to the idea of very few Tds this year. Unless he breaks severl runs to the house, FWP will get plenty of yds, but few scores in 2006.

JU - you may want to read the thread. Parker asked out because he had two carries to them them inside the ten, then to the two (or something like that. he was tired and asked out, he was not taken out at the 2).Now, Parker may not get the GL carries or it may be split, but thursday's game gave NO indication that he would be taken out all the time at the GL. Far from it.

 

[H.K.]

Any truth to the rumor that even bigger changes are under way?

"Ladies and gentlemen, now sporting their new brown and yellow uniform, here are your new look ####-tsburgh Steamers! Everyone wave those Terrible Bowels!!!!"

 

[JohnnyU]

[Hi jurb,Thanks for the posts. What makes you think Parker won't get the goal line and short yardage carries?J

Wasn't parker on the sideline when Pitt was in a goal line situation on Thurs night? FWP owners better get used to the idea of very few Tds this year. Unless he breaks severl runs to the house, FWP will get plenty of yds, but few scores in 2006.

JU - you may want to read the thread. Parker asked out because he had two carries to them them inside the ten, then to the two (or something like that. he was tired and asked out, he was not taken out at the 2).Now, Parker may not get the GL carries or it may be split, but thursday's game gave NO indication that he would be taken out all the time at the GL. Far from it.

Thanks, I missed that in the thread. I stand corrected....maybe....

 

[Koya]

[Hi jurb,Thanks for the posts. What makes you think Parker won't get the goal line and short yardage carries?J

Wasn't parker on the sideline when Pitt was in a goal line situation on Thurs night? FWP owners better get used to the idea of very few Tds this year. Unless he breaks severl runs to the house, FWP will get plenty of yds, but few scores in 2006.

JU - you may want to read the thread. Parker asked out because he had two carries to them them inside the ten, then to the two (or something like that. he was tired and asked out, he was not taken out at the 2).Now, Parker may not get the GL carries or it may be split, but thursday's game gave NO indication that he would be taken out all the time at the GL. Far from it.

Thanks, I missed that in the thread. I stand corrected....maybe....

NP. I saw the game, and about 90%+ people who saw it agree with me that Willie raised his hand because he needed a breather. Next play was the fumbled snap and turnover.Once again, there is nothing to say Willie IS the goal line back from this game - only the coach suggesting that Willie will at least be in the GL mix a couple weeks ago. So, we will have to see what happens next week.Besides, Davenport will be hurt within two weeks to make this moot.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Bump after Davenport has his first good game in Pittsburgh. 8 carries for 78 yards and a TD so far (including a 53 yard run).

Not sure if this is the natural development of Davenport into a role in the offense, or carries during garbage time - although, Parker was getting carries on the drive on which Davenport scored, and Davenport was getting carries earlier in the game.

Also worth noting - Davenport's TD was a 1 yard run - could we be seeing the goal line role changing hands? With the way Pittsburgh runs, he could develop into a decent RB4/5.

 

[mcd]

Also worth noting - Davenport's TD was a 1 yard run - could we be seeing the goal line role changing hands? With the way Pittsburgh runs, he could develop into a decent RB4/5.

I'm sure that's what Pittsburgh would like, but Davenport didn't look good in that short yardage series. They gave it to him on 2nd down at about the 2 & he didn't really move the pile. Went back to him on 4th down & he was stopped short, but twisted & reached the ball out past the goal line. Not what you want to see out of a 240 power back. Parker has actually looked much stronger at the goal.

 

[meanjoegreen]

could we be seeing the goal line role changing hands?

I doubt it. The Steelers are stomping the Chiefs. If it were close, I bet it would have been Parker in at the GL.