I know it's a longshot because they play Baltimore next week ,but what if they find a way to get to 5-6? Would you put them back in the playoff running. I think they proved last week ,that if they eliminate the ridiculous turnovers there a very good team. Potentially explosive offense.
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Steelers? What if they get to 5-6 (1 Viewer)
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
But they haven't proven that they can do this from week to week, so until they do, they are not even close to being a very good team. I would say they still have an outside shot, if they could get to 5-6, but given KC's schedule, which isn't that difficult down the stretch, except for two or maybe three games, 10-6 will probably be necessary to even have a shot at winning a wild card in the AFC, and the Steelers have shown nothing this year to indicate that they are good enough or consistent enough to win 8 games in a row, thus making it to 10-6.
The Jacket
Footballguy
Denver@ San DiegoBaltimoreJacksonvilleHardly a walk in the park. I'd much rather have the Steelers' remaining schedule.
The Jacket
Footballguy
It's not bad luck; it's bad football.Turning the ball over is not bad luck. Roethlisberger passing accurately to the wrong team is not bad luck.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Like was just said, that is bad football, not bad luck. When a team continues to lose games because they cannot stop turning the ball over, that is a bad team.
True, but three of those four games are at home. They always beat Denver at home, and Jacksonville, with the exception of the win at Philly, has not been a good road team this year, so I see them winning at least 2 of those 4. 10-6 is very attainable for KC.
nfl-forecast
Footballguy
A record of 5-6 is still a long way from the playoffs. If they could go 10-6 they would have pretty good chance, but still need a good bit of help. 9-7 is much more dicey. Even if they finish 9-7 my software (http://nfl-forecast.com) only gives them a 40% chance of making the playoffs, which I think might be a high estimate since it looks like at least 6 teams will finish 10-6 or better in the AFC.
Having won a SB last year, I'm not feeling too sorry for Steeler fans this season.
Having won a SB last year, I'm not feeling too sorry for Steeler fans this season.
Steeler
Footballguy
I obviously love the Steelers, but their defense pretty much sucked last week (and @ ATL) and the special teams has been horrible all year. They did play great on offense but that's only 1/3 of the game; they'll need more than one phase of the team playing well if they hope to run the table. So last week doesn't indicate to me that it's likely; although I certainly hope it happens.
redman
Footballguy
Using your own thinking, why would you then believe in the amount of good luck necessary to win 8 straight games? The best teams in the league rarely win 8 games in a row. Why would a team that has started 2-6 be expected to do that?
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
For some odd reason I think Cleveland will actually beat them this week and all this talk will be for not.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
The Steelers defense hasn't played well consistently, the return game has been brutal, a lot of key players have been banged up and missed time, and the Steelers still have a number of key games left against good teams. Eliminating the turnovers is only one piece of the puzzle.
Talking about them making the playoffs at this point is WAY premature. Let them rattle off 3 or 4 wins by playing good football and maybe the discussion will make sense. You don't win many games while giving up 500 yards of offense like they did last week against the Saints.
Talking about them making the playoffs at this point is WAY premature. Let them rattle off 3 or 4 wins by playing good football and maybe the discussion will make sense. You don't win many games while giving up 500 yards of offense like they did last week against the Saints.
Naught.
redman
Footballguy
Knot.
Are you retarded?
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Agreed. Talk about playoffs at this point for the Steelers is laughable. If they get to 6-6 then you might be able to include them in the discussion. Until then,
The only thing I will say about giving up 500 yards to the Saints is last week the Steelers defense was banged up going into the game. Then when they lose both Polamalu and Townsend the Steelers were VERY thin last week.This week they get both Polamalu and Townsend back as well as James Harrison and they're playing the Browns offense vs the Saints. I think the defense is due for a big game...
Chickenwang
Footballguy
all this damn steeler talk will be over after the browns beat them this weekend.
game over
game over
The Jacket
Footballguy
You're missing 2 key points:(1.) 5-6 is garbage. The Steelers can't lose another game and will need to finish 10-6. (2.) And more importantly, the Steelers would STILL need a lot of help at 10-6. They'd need Jacksonville to lose three more games, the Chiefs and Jets to lose, and the Bengals to finish with a worse record (unless Pittsburgh can win at Cincy, and even then Pittsburgh might lose on tiebreakers - I'd have to check it out).It's possible, but it's highly unlikely.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Agreed. The Steelers haven't won TWO games in a row and now we're talking about winning out...
I don't think either the Steelers or the Bengals finish 10-6 so if by some miracle one of them do, they probably won't have to worry about the other. As for the other AFC teams, there are still way to many game to be played to be worried about tiebreakers and such. If someone would have told me the Steelers would lose to the Raiders, that Jacksonville would lose to Houston (twice) or the Patriots would get beaten by the Jets I would have said they were crazy.I wish my fellow Steelers fans would hold off on talk about the playoffs until we are actually in the race. At 3-6, 4-6 or even 5-6 I think it is silly. As one person has said, if they lose to Cleveland tomorrow all of this talk for nothing (although I am confident they're going to beat the Browns I was sure they would beat the Raiders too).
Agreed.
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redman
Footballguy
Not.
C
CrossEyed
Guest
They are 1 aspect of the game from being 7-2, and that's turnovers. So I would say that yes, they are pretty close to being a very good team.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
In 2002 5 teams that were 4-4 made the playoffs, along with the Jets who started 2-5. Not sure if a 3-6 team ever made it.
The Jacket
Footballguy
Pretty big aspect of the game.I could take a handful of teams, dramatically improve one area in their game and suddenly they're very good.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
You aught naught mess with Chewyguru. He is the king of man on man pron.
C
CrossEyed
Guest
Possibly. But this isn't a talent or ability issue, it's a concentration issue. There's very little question that the Steelers are the best 3-6 team in the league. Of course that and $3.00 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
Ice Cream Man
Footballguy
Do you think the Titans will make the playoffs at 9-7? With VY at the helm there's no reason to think they can't win out. Heck, they held Indy to 17 points and the games they've lost have just been from stupid turnovers.
corpcow
Footballguy
But as Ben gets healthier - physically and mentally - I think the mistakes go down.
The Jacket
Footballguy
Maybe. Maybe not.I could say the same about my team who has been absolutely crippled all season. I don't know if there's another team who have gone through more injury problems than the Chiefs. Starting Pro Bowl QB, #2 RB, starting Pro Bowl LG, starting LT, starting RT, starting Pro Bowl TE, starting LDE, starting OLB, and starting FS (along with a number of key backups, e.g. nickelback, #2 OLB).Just brutal. But I don't think of how good they would be; only what they are.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Get real. Turnovers are a huge part of NFL games. The Browns are the same as the Steelers are in +/- ratio (-8). The Browns have lost four games by 8 points or less. So, can I say the Browns are also pretty close to being a very good team, since they might be also be 7-2 if you do not factor in turnovers?
redman
Footballguy
Naughty.You aught naught mess with Chewyguru. He is the king of man on man pron.
pghrob
Footballguy
The Steelers and their fans would be well served to focus on the remainder of the season by taking things one game at a time. The playoff will take care of themselves. Just focus on the game being played, the opponent on the schedule. Worrying about playoffs is pointless when you consider the current condition of the Steelers. A one game at time mentality is the best way the Steelers can even begin to think about the playoffs.
Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
Its confirmed. We suck. End of story/season. Even if this team somehow beats Cleveland they will go no where in the playoffs, and the Ravens are better than the Browns....Ugh
Season is not over yet. Steelers are slowly creeping there way back in to playoff contention. It's not like there 4 games out of a wild card spot. Coming in to today's game they were 2 games out with 7 games left. This was a big win. Its looking like the Big Ben Magic is back
jetpack
Footballguy
Were you in a coma last year?
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
sorry, but when your QB is leading the league in interceptions it's not a concentration issue, he's just bad.
RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
I don't think 5-6 will be enough to get them into the playoffs. I think it will depend on the remaining five games.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Did you even watch the game? I know that you hate the Steelers and you want to talk smack on Ben but get real. Ben's first pick was his fault. The other two were deflections off of his receivers. Ben played a great game in the second half.
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The Jacket
Footballguy
If every QB was excused for tipped balls or receivers mistakes, we'd have an entirely different view on most QBs in the NFL.
Bottom line: 3 INTs.
He isn't the league-leader out of coincedence.
Bottom line: 3 INTs.
He isn't the league-leader out of coincedence.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
dude he leads the league in interceptions. that's including his whole season, not just today's game. you can't blame 17 interceptions in 10 games on the WRs.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Still won the game, dude.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
never once did i mention today's game in any of my posts.
