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Is Steve Johnson worth a spot in my non ppr keeper league? I know Buffalo is awful, but they are always trailing in games and that equals laots a passing. What do you all think?

 
dmb3535 said:
Is Steve Johnson worth a spot in my non ppr keeper league? I know Buffalo is awful, but they are always trailing in games and that equals laots a passing. What do you all think?
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picked him up as a bye week filler this week while welker and wallace are out. don't think you can put a value on him just yet.
 
Played him last week out of necessity and he won me my game. With that said I might go for David Nelson if I was going to add a Buff WR. I had room so added both. I think Nelson will ultimately be the better player, but Johnson has enough talent, to where if he's on the field he can get you some points. I'd rather be starting him than a guy like Meachem or a lot of other early season WR3s. Nelson had more yards and looks last week, so if it wern't for the TD, im not sure he will do better than a regular slot receiver week to week.

 
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He has alligator armed a couple of passes over the middle of the field. He could be a decent underneath guy, because, for all intents and purposes, Evans occupies the deep part of the field. He does have quite a bit of potential I think though.

 
I wouldn't bother. I've liked him in past years, but this year he has been unimpressive. He doesn't seem to have "it" this year. Between the gator-arms mentioned above to a couple real bone-head plays I think he's only working his way down the depth chart. In deep leagues I think Nelson is the value play WR, at this point.

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
I wouldn't bother. I've liked him in past years, but this year he has been unimpressive. He doesn't seem to have "it" this year. Between the gator-arms mentioned above to a couple real bone-head plays I think he's only working his way down the depth chart. In deep leagues I think Nelson is the value play WR, at this point.
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The stats are interesting. Johnson has 18 targets and they have been steady 3...4...3...3...5

He now has 4 TDs in the past 3 games and this week he logged 5/46/2TD. He has 17 receptions on those 18 targets so he seems to catch much of what is thrown his way. Is he the WR3? Is he on the field a lot? I picked him up in best ball over the weekend and he cracked my line up. not sure if he has any shelf life or if this was the best he will do all season. He's on pace for about 50/650-700 yds and his TD ratio is thru the roof but safe to say he could doubl what he has in garbage time to maybe 8 for the year?

At least makes some depth or something you can throw in on a trade perhaps.

 
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It seems like everybody gets a little piece of the pie in Buffalo. So I guess he's a good bye week filler. Could score on any given week. Will probably have droughts in between. Id say serviceable because the team he plays on doesn't have any main offensive weapons. You could probably say the same for any of Buffalo's WR at this point that get on the field.

 
I dropped him in a bunch of leagues earlier this off-season, but scrambled to pick him back up where I could last week.

I think he's been basically uncoverable so far and that it's only a matter of time before they start sending a lot more targets his way. Buy. And bump Lee Evans too. Fitzpatrick is turning out to be a lot better than Edwards too.

 
Amazing we can't get more discussion going on a guy that probably is floating around on many waiver wires or will get picked up this week. Not saying the guy is special but Fitz is throwing it to him and getting results. 4 TDs. Even if it is garbage time stats it seems the Bills will have plenty of that this season.

 
I picked the guy up right before rosters locked this last week just in case he happened to put up solid numbers this week. One good week is a fluke. Two good weeks demand a pique of interest. Three might as well signify a trend. I think that the guy is going to be a top waiver option in deep PPR leagues this week.

While I didn't watch the entire Bills game (as that would be pure torture), I did watch him have one of his TD catches called back due to a holding play, I think. Not sure on the holding, just know that it was called back. However, Fitzpatrick went to him again on the very next play. While there's been some criticism due to his alligator arms and such, it's always comforting to know that a prospective waiver wire pick-up is being targeted in the end zone. In weeks where the top waiver wire guys might consist of players like Danny Amendola, Anthony Armstrong and Deji Karim, Johnson looks pretty darn solid.

 
Let's see, he's got a bye week, then Baltimore, KC, and Chicago is weeks 7-9. That's a tough stretch to say the least.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
The stats are interesting. Johnson has 18 targets and they have been steady 3...4...3...3...5

He now has 4 TDs in the past 3 games and this week he logged 5/46/2TD. He has 17 receptions on those 18 targets so he seems to catch much of what is thrown his way. Is he the WR3? Is he on the field a lot? I picked him up in best ball over the weekend and he cracked my line up. not sure if he has any shelf life or if this was the best he will do all season. He's on pace for about 50/650-700 yds and his TD ratio is thru the roof but safe to say he could doubl what he has in garbage time to maybe 8 for the year?

At least makes some depth or something you can throw in on a trade perhaps.
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I'm seeing 31 total targets on the year with 9 last week. Where are you seeing these numbers?ETS:

 
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Long term prospects? I'm thinking attempting to sell high in a salary cap/contract league where I got him this offseason.

 
Neofight said:
Ministry of Pain said:
The stats are interesting. Johnson has 18 targets and they have been steady 3...4...3...3...5

He now has 4 TDs in the past 3 games and this week he logged 5/46/2TD. He has 17 receptions on those 18 targets so he seems to catch much of what is thrown his way. Is he the WR3? Is he on the field a lot? I picked him up in best ball over the weekend and he cracked my line up. not sure if he has any shelf life or if this was the best he will do all season. He's on pace for about 50/650-700 yds and his TD ratio is thru the roof but safe to say he could doubl what he has in garbage time to maybe 8 for the year?

At least makes some depth or something you can throw in on a trade perhaps.
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I'm seeing 31 total targets on the year with 9 last week. Where are you seeing these numbers?ETS:

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I was looking at MFL, maybe those are off. I like him better with 31 targets. 6 a week is close to 100 for the year, that's pomising.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Neofight said:
The stats are interesting. Johnson has 18 targets and they have been steady 3...4...3...3...5

He now has 4 TDs in the past 3 games and this week he logged 5/46/2TD. He has 17 receptions on those 18 targets so he seems to catch much of what is thrown his way. Is he the WR3? Is he on the field a lot? I picked him up in best ball over the weekend and he cracked my line up. not sure if he has any shelf life or if this was the best he will do all season. He's on pace for about 50/650-700 yds and his TD ratio is thru the roof but safe to say he could doubl what he has in garbage time to maybe 8 for the year?

At least makes some depth or something you can throw in on a trade perhaps.
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I'm seeing 31 total targets on the year with 9 last week. Where are you seeing these numbers?ETS:

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Targets for the year are below (pardon the formatting) - Johnson's looks are definitely on the rise.
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Player	TM	Wk1	Wk2	Wk3	Wk4	Wk5	Targ	T/TmG	T/G	REC	YD	Y/R	TD	Rec%Steve Johnson	BUF	5	6	4	7	9	31	6.2	6.2	17	214	12.6	4	54.8Lee Evans	BUF	7	0	8	6	8	29	5.8	5.8	15	181	12.1	1	51.7Roscoe Parrish	BUF	3	4	6	4	5	22	4.4	4.4	14	217	15.5	1	63.6C.J. Spiller	BUF	6	4	3	2	2	17	3.4	3.4	13	48	3.7	1	76.5David Nelson	BUF	6	1	2	4	3	16	3.2	3.2	10	120	12.0	0	62.5Fred Jackson	BUF	4	1	0	2	2	9	1.8	1.8	3	-7	-2.3	0	33.3Jonathan Stupar	BUF	0	2	3	0	1	6	1.2	1.2	6	51	8.5	0	100.0Marshawn Lynch	BUF	2	0	1	0	dnp	3	0.6	0.8	1	7	7.0	0	33.3Corey McIntyre	BUF	0	0	1	1	0	2	0.4	0.4	1	1	1.0	0	50.0David Martin	BUF	0	dnp	0	1	0	1	0.2	0.2	1	4	4.0	1	100.0Donald Jones	BUF	0	0	0	0	0	0	0.0	0.0	0	0	0.0	0	0.0
 
Had him for a couple of years and never let him go because of his talent. Probably passed on som good waiver pick ups over that time, but it looks to be paying off. Everything I've ever read/watched about him is pretty positive. Good hands, physical, decent speed, great run after the catch. Just never had a good QB. Doubtful Fitzpatrick is the long term answer here, but it seems to be working for now.

I would say in redraft leagues of 12 teams or more with 20 roster spots or more, he should be on someones roster. He should be rostered in any dynasty league.

I guess I'm biased cause I own him, but I own him for a reason.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Is he the WR3? Is he on the field a lot?
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He's the WR3 in name only; for all intents and purposes, he's the WR2. Parrish doesn't have the skillset to be a true complement to Evans, and operates much better out of the slot.Johnson has had an up-and-down career here. He came out of nowhere as a 7th-rounder, and really shined when he got his chance a few years ago. No one expected much out of him, so his real breakout game (I remember a roughly 6-95 game late in the season a few years ago), it was a real revelation. As he slowly climbed the depth chart, his weaknesses started to come out - average route-running, the occasional drop (as mentioned in this thread).He was in the doghouse for pretty much all of camp, not for attitude or anything, but simply because he makes an occasional bonehead play. He managed to keep his starting job through the first few weeks but lost it as sort of a motivation ploy (from what the coaching staff seems to imply). That said, even with the demotion, his playing time hasn't dipped noticeably at all - not that I've noticed, at least, and I've had the pleasure of watching every Bills game this year.Obviously I don't watch his routes every play, but there's obviously some problem with him that the coaching staff doesn't like. In the short-term, I think he could be a decent bye week fill-in, but not much more. The Bills offense will be hit and miss, and Johnson will be a victim of it. In the long-term, I don't think he has a ton of fantasy value. He doesn't do anything particularly well - he has average NFL WR written all over him - average hands, average routes, average blocker, average speed, average size. That doesn't mean he can't carve out a nice NFL career, but maybe 700 yards/season with a handful of TDs is far, far more likely than a consistent 1000+ yards/season career. I think that the long-term WR to own in Buffalo, if there is one, has to be David Nelson.
 
Steve Tasker said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Is he the WR3? Is he on the field a lot?
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He's the WR3 in name only; for all intents and purposes, he's the WR2. Parrish doesn't have the skillset to be a true complement to Evans, and operates much better out of the slot.Johnson has had an up-and-down career here. He came out of nowhere as a 7th-rounder, and really shined when he got his chance a few years ago. No one expected much out of him, so his real breakout game (I remember a roughly 6-95 game late in the season a few years ago), it was a real revelation. As he slowly climbed the depth chart, his weaknesses started to come out - average route-running, the occasional drop (as mentioned in this thread).He was in the doghouse for pretty much all of camp, not for attitude or anything, but simply because he makes an occasional bonehead play. He managed to keep his starting job through the first few weeks but lost it as sort of a motivation ploy (from what the coaching staff seems to imply). That said, even with the demotion, his playing time hasn't dipped noticeably at all - not that I've noticed, at least, and I've had the pleasure of watching every Bills game this year.Obviously I don't watch his routes every play, but there's obviously some problem with him that the coaching staff doesn't like. In the short-term, I think he could be a decent bye week fill-in, but not much more. The Bills offense will be hit and miss, and Johnson will be a victim of it. In the long-term, I don't think he has a ton of fantasy value. He doesn't do anything particularly well - he has average NFL WR written all over him - average hands, average routes, average blocker, average speed, average size. That doesn't mean he can't carve out a nice NFL career, but maybe 700 yards/season with a handful of TDs is far, far more likely than a consistent 1000+ yards/season career. I think that the long-term WR to own in Buffalo, if there is one, has to be David Nelson.
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He looked very good today, for sure. Again, though, always have to be wary when you're talking about the Bills offense. He could have another 7-100-TD game next week, or he could have a 2-20 game.

He looked like an honest-to-god GOOD receiver today, though.

 
Didn't start him today unfortunately, but I'm very impressed by him. I'm not sure what exactly he does so well, but he seems to be able to create space and he has very good hands and good chemistry w/ Fitzpatrick. I think he might be a viable option the rest of the year, and could possibly pull some coverage away from Evans as well.

 
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Didn't start him today unfortunately, but I'm very impressed by him. I'm not sure what exactly he does so well, but he seems to be able to create space and he has very good hands and good chemistry w/ Fitzpatrick. I think he might be a viable option the rest of the year, and could possibly pull some coverage away from Evans as well.
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I feel like Evans pulls the coverage away and allows Johnson a little more wiggle roam.
 
Past 2 weeks I've hesitated to pick him up. He's still a free agent in my main league - he'll be gone next week. Oh well, I have enough trouble with Lee Evans on my bench.

 
Traded him for a 2nd rounder and Derek Mason last week. oops!

Thankfully, I also traded away Kenny Britt for Devon Bess and Louis Murphy the same day, otherwise I would have had to say it was my worst trade of the day!

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I went with the Danario hype with Big Mike Williams and Steve Johnson both on my bench.

I'm banking on these types of guys to make up for a trade I made that sent Brandon Marshall packing.

I think I may give them both a start next time out.

 
T J: BMW and SJohnson have decent matchups next week... if u could only start one, which one would u go with?

 
emge said:
T J: BMW and SJohnson have decent matchups next week... if u could only start one, which one would u go with?
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The advantages that Johnson has (IMO) are that Buffalo's D is truly terrible, and the Bills will be passing in most games no matter what they'd like to do. Additionally I'd be surprised if Johnson draws the #1 corner anytime soon with Evans on the opposite side. Really kicking myself for losing him in some leagues - but how could you see this coming?!
 
I'd likely start BMW, but Buffalo playing from behind most games is also likely going to prove to be correct. I may end up going with both over Maclin also - at least until Desean is back.

 
T J said:
I went with the Danario hype with ... Steve Johnson both on my bench.
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Did this same thing, except that I was decimated by byes, and went for the "Ravens shut everyone down" line of thinking.Whoops -- will only sit RBs agains the Ravens from now on. Passing games seem to do fine agains Baltimore. Or is Ed Reed still out?

 
I think Reed played. He blew up on my bench as well. Played Mike Williams (SEA) instead, so not a huge loss, unless Nicks completely sucks tonight.

 
Not to polish any knobs, but I saw the great feature that Sig and Cecil did on him on Draftguys TV when he came out and just really liked something about him. Hard to say what exactly but he just seems to move like a WR, if that makes any sense. Happy to have him on my dynasty team and happier he is on the Bills.

 
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