Steve McNair to retire (1 Viewer)

[Wildman]

He and Favre will be doing a lot more



My favorite player for the last decade. McNair, Fisher, and Eddie George were the reasons I became a Titans fan in the mid-90s. That 13-3 season in Baltimore wasn't bad at all. He did a great job leading them back against the Chargers. He didn't play great statistical football, but he was a big reason the Ravens went 13-3.

In hindsight, last year was a year too late. But anyone who seriously criticizes a guy for calling it quits too late when that guy has shown year after year the mentality to strap it on and produce extremely well in big games despite having to sleep sitting up or be wheeled off a plane like Hannibal Lecter, doesn't understand the warrior mentality. If you're going to praise someone for carrying a team while coping with injuries that kept most of his peers on the bench, don't criticize him for not knowing when to stop fighting through the pain.

I think Troy Smith will get real shot. I think in this year's draft class Smith would have been up there with Ryan and Brohm...he's a solid prospect who could develop into a decent starter.

 

[sho nuff]

Unlike Favre, McNair did this the right way. Kudos to McNair and his career in the NFL. He's a warrior.

Ummm...huh?

Welcome to America. I hope the E2L class helps out. All jokes aside, sorry for the minor hijack. Lets go back on the topic of hand, which is the wonderful career of Steve McNair and the impact his retirement will have on the Ravens.

Nice attempt at a foolish joke.But...why even post it if you are not going to even try to explain what the hell you meant?

 

[ravnzfan]

Seems to me this is a team that needs to win now, with a still-solid but aging D, an old possession WR in Mason, Clayton entering his prime, Heap in his prime (if he can stay healthy), McGahee turning 27 during the season, etc.

I wouldn't want to wait 2-3 years before a rookie is ready to be playoff-worthy, Smith has little experience, and we know Boller is not the answer.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Leftwich end up here, or maybe even CPep, as the 2008 starter.

Ozzie said during the presser that he expected 15 messages by the time he got back to his office---seriously...if I were the agent for Lefty, I'd be on the horn right now singing about how this was supposed to be how this played out w/his client, save a botched trade attempt in the draft 5 yrs ago---"starting QB for the Purple, Byron Leftwich!"Concerning the draft.....I'm thinking corner in the 1st, w/them being 1 of the teams moving up from the 2nd to land 1 of the other guys...unless Ryan slips to the 8---I just think it's way too expensive to move up higher, and I'm just getting over what we paid to get Boller...keep in mind, that price caused us to try to stash Anderson on the practice squad, rather than hold him on the 53 man--we all know how well that has worked out for us!

 

[Toxic Gatorade]

I met Steve McNair and Eddie George while they were Houston Oilers (way back in the days).......got 2 footballs signed by them both. But Steve was so down to Earth, it was hard to believe he was a professional sports player..........no ego, wanted to know what YOU thought of the team's performance, overall kickazz guy (Eddie too for that matter).

I just wish he would have played more of his career while in Houston.

When Houston was in limbo without a team, I still followed the Titans........those were OUR guys, not Tennessee's. We drafted them, loved them, supported them. We just revolted against Butt Adams when he held the team ransom over our heads. It was sad to see them go back then & it's sad to see him leave the game now.

Great guy, gutsy baller........I know this Houstonian will miss him in the NFL.

 

[Kirby]

Unlike Favre, McNair did this the right way. Kudos to McNair and his career in the NFL. He's a warrior.

Ummm...huh?

Welcome to America. I hope the E2L class helps out. All jokes aside, sorry for the minor hijack. Lets go back on the topic of hand, which is the wonderful career of Steve McNair and the impact his retirement will have on the Ravens.

Nice attempt at a foolish joke.But...why even post it if you are not going to even try to explain what the hell you meant?

I think he meant that Farve should have waited until he wasn't good anymore and then played another year... and then retire a week before the draft.

 

[sho nuff]

As for McNair...met him a few times...very nice guy.

Best was one night at BW3. Friends and I watching some sports...playing Golden Tee.

In he walks...asks us if anyone is playing the game next to us. One of my friends...setting up for his shot...does not look at him and just says to go ahead and use it. me and the other guy tell this friend to look at who it is...he keeps telling us to hold on and let him finish his shot...so again we insist he looks. He glances quick...goes back to his shot...then his eyes got big and it finally hit him that it was McNair.

He made a few jokes that we were "pros" playing that game compared to him.

Ended up talking with him for a bit after we were all done with the game.

I have heard it about some celebs/athletes...and it seemed true with him...just wanted to be treated like a normal guy rather than having people fawn all over him. He sat there and shot the #### with us for a while. Very cool. Just a regular guy...watch looked the same as mine...except it was covered in diamonds.

 

[twitch]

Ive got nothing but incredible respect for Steve McNair. Having been an NFL fan dating back to the 70s, and not a fan of any of McNair's teams, but a fan of many players like him on many different teams throughout the league, there isnt an NFL player in my lifetime that I could have any more respect for than Steve McNair. He was a gifted player in alot of ways, with a better arm than he probably ever got credit for, better legs than just about any QB Ive ever seen, and as much heart as any to have ever played the game, period. He lead by example, and you just knew that every teammate the guy ever had would have taken a bullet for him any day. I would have been proud to have that guy leading my team. The NFL, and certainly this football fan, are gonna miss Steve McNair. That guy was ALL heart!

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Farewell to one scrappy dude.

 

[millertyme1]

Not a minute too soon.

Not a fan of the player nor the man.

Why?

I'm just not going to hail anyone with a DUI as a great person. Very selfish timing of retirement as well IMO. Franchise stood behind you though you were pathetic for 2 years, you can't wait a month to announce your retirement and not make it so obvious that your franchise is after Ryan?

Despite what Newsome said, he was probably told he wasn't in the present or future plans the last few days and hung it up. I just don't happen to believe he went out solely due to injuries.

If someone wants to call him a gutty player, I'm not going to argue. At the same time, it's what you signed up for.

 

[sho nuff]

Not a minute too soon.

Not a fan of the player nor the man.

Why?

I'm just not going to hail anyone with a DUI as a great person. Very selfish timing of retirement as well IMO. Franchise stood behind you though you were pathetic for 2 years, you can't wait a month to announce your retirement and not make it so obvious that your franchise is after Ryan?

Despite what Newsome said, he was probably told he wasn't in the present or future plans the last few days and hung it up. I just don't happen to believe he went out solely due to injuries.

If someone wants to call him a gutty player, I'm not going to argue. At the same time, it's what you signed up for.

Selfish timing?When is a "retirement" not kind of selfish though.

If he waits a month...more people would whine that he waited til after the draft.

People were already speculating they were going after a QB anyway given McNair's age and Boller's sucktitude.

 

[pretender]

Not much love here for Troy Smith. What is the knock on him? Where does he stand with this years class of QB's? Admittedly I don't know much about him but why do most people ignore him and say - oh Baltimore will draft a QB. Or for that matter - why is Boller out of the picture almost immediately.

McNair was a tough guy and played through a lot of pain. I'm happy he knew himself well enough to know he couldn't do it another year and hung up his cleats. I hope he enjoys his retirement and all the wear and tear on his body doesn't make it a very painful retirement.

 

[Slinger]

Nice attempt at a foolish joke.But...why even post it if you are not going to even try to explain what the hell you meant?

My original comment was extremely simple, thus didn't need anymore explaining.This is a Steve McNair thread, so I don't want to hijack it anymore and would like to invite you to do the same.Edit to add: I'm actually afraid you're going to continue the 'angry guy on message board' battle that's so common on the internet nowadays. So we can go back to the topic in hand I would like to spell out my original comment.Steve McNair just retired out of the blue. He didn't leave fans and the media guessing every offseason. He didn't hold a press conference at his charity and act surprise when everyone there thought he was going to announce his retirement. McNair kept a low profile and just did it. In another words, McNair did what Favre didn't and I give him kudos for that.

 

[roadkill1292]

Not much love here for Troy Smith. What is the knock on him? Where does he stand with this years class of QB's? Admittedly I don't know much about him but why do most people ignore him and say - oh Baltimore will draft a QB. Or for that matter - why is Boller out of the picture almost immediately. McNair was a tough guy and played through a lot of pain. I'm happy he knew himself well enough to know he couldn't do it another year and hung up his cleats. I hope he enjoys his retirement and all the wear and tear on his body doesn't make it a very painful retirement.

Because of his relative lack of arm strength, Ratbird observers are hesitant to call him the "answer" to the problem. And while it should be noted that the team demonstrated a little offensive life in his starts at the end of the season, it's hard to tell if he was really getting the opponents' best efforts in those situations. Yes, he could come out smokin' in the preseason and blow us all away with his leadership and athleticism. But he could also be Akili Smith.

 

[sho nuff]

Nice attempt at a foolish joke.But...why even post it if you are not going to even try to explain what the hell you meant?

My original comment was extremely simple, thus didn't need anymore explaining.This is a Steve McNair thread, so I don't want to hijack it anymore and would like to invite you to do the same.Edit to add: I'm actually afraid you're going to continue the 'angry guy on message board' battle that's so common on the internet nowadays. So we can go back to the topic in hand I would like to spell out my original comment.Steve McNair just retired out of the blue. He didn't leave fans and the media guessing every offseason. He didn't hold a press conference at his charity and act surprise when everyone there thought he was going to announce his retirement. McNair kept a low profile and just did it. In another words, McNair did what Favre didn't and I give him kudos for that.

To end this hijack.Favre has that pres conference at his charity every year...so he was surprised when people jumped on it nad thought something.Favre did not leave fans guessing every offseason. One time he took til right before the draft.Every other year they knew early on he was coming back.That is why I questioned your comment and thought it was ridiculous.

 

[Slinger]

Sometimes people just can't admit when they're wrong. The heart of my message is that Brett Favre is a drama queen who milked the attention to the best of his ability on his way to his retirement while McNair just retired out of the blue without the any attention leading up to it.

If you don't get that, then that's a you problem. I don't need a smiley face to end my post here because I'm actually right.

Have your last word and smiley face, but I'll predict that you'll be wrong...again.

 

[Abraham]

Not a minute too soon.

Not a fan of the player nor the man.

Why?

I'm just not going to hail anyone with a DUI as a great person.

Very selfish timing of retirement as well IMO. Franchise stood behind you though you were pathetic for 2 years, you can't wait a month to announce your retirement and not make it so obvious that your franchise is after Ryan?

Despite what Newsome said, he was probably told he wasn't in the present or future plans the last few days and hung it up. I just don't happen to believe he went out solely due to injuries.

If someone wants to call him a gutty player, I'm not going to argue. At the same time, it's what you signed up for.

I disagree with everything bolded.

 

[Moe Green]

RIP

 

[sho nuff]

Sometimes people just can't admit when they're wrong.

What did I say that was factually incorrect?Ill give you a hint...I did not.

You going to admit that you were wrong about Favre leaving his fans and the media guessing every offseason (he did it once).

I doubt it.

The heart of my message is that Brett Favre is a drama queen who milked the attention to the best of his ability on his way to his retirement while McNair just retired out of the blue without the any attention leading up to it.

You are entitled to that ignorant opinion.

If you don't get that, then that's a you problem. I don't need a smiley face to end my post here because I'm actually right.

So you think.

Have your last word and smiley face, but I'll predict that you'll be wrong...again.

You can predict that...it only makes you wrong...again.Let me know when you have a single fact to back any of this BS up.

 

[sho nuff]

Not a minute too soon.

Not a fan of the player nor the man.

Why?

I'm just not going to hail anyone with a DUI as a great person.

Very selfish timing of retirement as well IMO. Franchise stood behind you though you were pathetic for 2 years, you can't wait a month to announce your retirement and not make it so obvious that your franchise is after Ryan?

Despite what Newsome said, he was probably told he wasn't in the present or future plans the last few days and hung it up. I just don't happen to believe he went out solely due to injuries.

If someone wants to call him a gutty player, I'm not going to argue. At the same time, it's what you signed up for.

I disagree with everything bolded.

His team seemed to disagree though...what with him announcing it to them first...and they giving him a standing ovation and congratulating him on a great career.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Helloooooooo Matt Ryan.

I know that's going to be the overwhelming projection now, but I think the Ravens will consider a number of QBs in the 2nd round instead; depending on whether one of their top rated players is there at 8. Either way, it means Cam Cameron is going to have to work some magic with the likes of Kyle Boller, Troy Smith & ROOKIE

I don't know if the Ravens will draft a QB or not, but I wouldn't do this Jason unless they think whomever they take in the 2nd round or beyond is better than Matt Ryan.If they truely believe that, then I would support that, but QB is just to important of a position to take anything less than who you think is the best guy.They are in position to take the top QB in the draft (whoever that may be) and they need a QB as bad as anyone. I don't like the thought process of trying to get some 1st rounder for another need and skimp on QB and go QB 2nd round (unless they actually believe that guy is better than anyone drafted in the 1st round.)I'd be more apt to support going whatever 1st round and not even going QB in the 2nd. Call it a rebuilding year, see if any of the guy's on the team can play the position and start planning on signing a young FA or scout the draft for a QB that they like since in a rebuilding year, that usually means top 10 pick.I'm not sure what way I'd go in terms of going QB or not in this draft for the Ravens...but I'd either be All in or not. I wouldn't just CALL the position and skimp on the position.FWIW, I think Henne is the best QB in this draft.

 

[Slinger]

I don't know if the Ravens will draft a QB or not...

They don't have to, but they pretty much have to (if that makes sense). The fans in Baltimore won't be happy with just Kyle Boller and Troy Smith at the helm. I would bet that they will take Matt Ryan if he's available, but Henne is not a bad choice either.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Sometimes people just can't admit when they're wrong.

What did I say that was factually incorrect?Ill give you a hint...I did not.

You going to admit that you were wrong about Favre leaving his fans and the media guessing every offseason (he did it once).

I doubt it.

The heart of my message is that Brett Favre is a drama queen who milked the attention to the best of his ability on his way to his retirement while McNair just retired out of the blue without the any attention leading up to it.

You are entitled to that ignorant opinion.

If you don't get that, then that's a you problem. I don't need a smiley face to end my post here because I'm actually right.

So you think.

Have your last word and smiley face, but I'll predict that you'll be wrong...again.

You can predict that...it only makes you wrong...again.Let me know when you have a single fact to back any of this BS up.

Give it up man. You've read the news articles that told you that Favre has been considering retirement since he was 33. There are none about Steve McNair...he didn't drag it out, he just did it. That's the difference, and it's a pretty big one, and it's a very obvious one.Quit it with this "one time" argument. If Favre didn't want the media to pester him about his retirment over the last several years he would have told them to #### 'cause he'd retire when he'd retire. One of these QB's who retired this offseason dragged things out the last several years. One retired when it was time, and the other one questioned when it would be time for the last five years. Get off it, already.

I wonder when we'll start to read the rumors about McNair making a comeback this offseason.

I'd bet that we don't.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

As for McNair...met him a few times...very nice guy.Best was one night at BW3. Friends and I watching some sports...playing Golden Tee.In he walks...asks us if anyone is playing the game next to us. One of my friends...setting up for his shot...does not look at him and just says to go ahead and use it. me and the other guy tell this friend to look at who it is...he keeps telling us to hold on and let him finish his shot...so again we insist he looks. He glances quick...goes back to his shot...then his eyes got big and it finally hit him that it was McNair.He made a few jokes that we were "pros" playing that game compared to him.Ended up talking with him for a bit after we were all done with the game.I have heard it about some celebs/athletes...and it seemed true with him...just wanted to be treated like a normal guy rather than having people fawn all over him. He sat there and shot the #### with us for a while. Very cool. Just a regular guy...watch looked the same as mine...except it was covered in diamonds.

"I put my pants on one leg at a time, same as you. But once I have 'em On I make gold records."

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Sometimes people just can't admit when they're wrong.

What did I say that was factually incorrect?Ill give you a hint...I did not.

You going to admit that you were wrong about Favre leaving his fans and the media guessing every offseason (he did it once).

I doubt it.

The heart of my message is that Brett Favre is a drama queen who milked the attention to the best of his ability on his way to his retirement while McNair just retired out of the blue without the any attention leading up to it.

You are entitled to that ignorant opinion.

If you don't get that, then that's a you problem. I don't need a smiley face to end my post here because I'm actually right.

So you think.

Have your last word and smiley face, but I'll predict that you'll be wrong...again.

You can predict that...it only makes you wrong...again.Let me know when you have a single fact to back any of this BS up.

Give it up man. You've read the news articles that told you that Favre has been considering retirement since he was 33. There are none about Steve McNair...he didn't drag it out, he just did it. That's the difference, and it's a pretty big one, and it's a very obvious one.Quit it with this "one time" argument. If Favre didn't want the media to pester him about his retirment over the last several years he would have told them to #### 'cause he'd retire when he'd retire. One of these QB's who retired this offseason dragged things out the last several years. One retired when it was time, and the other one questioned when it would be time for the last five years. Get off it, already.

I wonder when we'll start to read the rumors about McNair making a comeback this offseason.

I'd bet that we don't.

Kind of a different situation since Favre is still on of the top five passers in the league and McNair is toast..

 

[sho nuff]

Give it up man. You've read the news articles that told you that Favre has been considering retirement since he was 33. There are none about Steve McNair...he didn't drag it out, he just did it. That's the difference, and it's a pretty big one, and it's a very obvious one.Quit it with this "one time" argument. If Favre didn't want the media to pester him about his retirment over the last several years he would have told them to #### 'cause he'd retire when he'd retire. One of these QB's who retired this offseason dragged things out the last several years. One retired when it was time, and the other one questioned when it would be time for the last five years. Get off it, already.I wonder when we'll start to read the rumors about McNair making a comeback this offseason. I'd bet that we don't.

Yes...I have read news articles where he considered it in earlier years...but also where those articles were written in November and the team knew he was coming back before the end of the season (go ahead and read the accusation again...how is letting the team know before the end of the season the same as keeping the team guessing in the offseason every year?)Yes...one time he kept the team waiting up until the draft. Every single other year the team knew either before the end of the season...or by the Super Bowl. I will keep it up because its a fact that none of you can refute.One had the body to have to retire at this time...one (who is older) could still keep playing and showed he could still keep playing at a higher level. Get it?Id bet that nobody will start making up information and speculating about some big comeback like they are with #4.

 

[sho nuff]

The way the two announced things is interesting though.

McNair still has the mind to play (his words...body just could not take anymore)

Favre still has the body to play (his words...mind just could not take it anymore)

Can we put them together and have a few more years?

 

[ScottyFargo]

Yes...I have read news articles where he considered it in earlier years...but also where those articles were written in November and the team knew he was coming back before the end of the season (go ahead and read the accusation again...how is letting the team know before the end of the season the same as keeping the team guessing in the offseason every year?)

Yes...one time he kept the team waiting up until the draft. Every single other year the team knew either before the end of the season...or by the Super Bowl. I will keep it up because its a fact that none of you can refute.

One had the body to have to retire at this time...one (who is older) could still keep playing and showed he could still keep playing at a higher level. Get it?

Id bet that nobody will start making up information and speculating about some big comeback like they are with #4.

That has nothing to do with the point that everyone grew very, very tired of the Favre retirement circus that DID occur the last five years...regardless of the time he took to "decide" to come back. If the discussion was occuring during the season and we all knew about it, how is it any less relevent that people grew tired of it?It wasn't always spurred on by Favre but it was only denied by him one year out of the last five. The whole situation could have been avoided if Favre hadn't been the one bringing up his own retirement for nearly 1/3rd of his career.

That is why it is acceptable for anyone to have grown long tired of it, while when McNair retires you do not nearly hear the same kind of negative talk, because he decided it was time without discussing it with the media several years prior to actually doing it.

 

[Couch Potato]

Gentlemen, this thread isn't about Favre. Why does every friggin QB thread in this place have to end up being about Favre?????

 

[sho nuff]

That has nothing to do with the point that everyone grew very, very tired of the Favre retirement circus that DID occur the last five years...regardless of the time he took to "decide" to come back. If the discussion was occuring during the season and we all knew about it, how is it any less relevent that people grew tired of it?

How is it relevant?I was disagreeing with a poster who claimed he kept the fans and team hanging every offseason for xx amount of years.It matters quite a bit.

It wasn't always spurred on by Favre but it was only denied by him one year out of the last five. The whole situation could have been avoided if Favre hadn't been the one bringing up his own retirement for nearly 1/3rd of his career.

Though...he was not "bringing it up" that often. He was asked questions...he responded truthfully.

That is why it is acceptable for anyone to have grown long tired of it, while when McNair retires you do not nearly hear the same kind of negative talk, because he decided it was time without discussing it with the media several years prior to actually doing it.

I have no problem if people want to be tired of Favre talking about it.I have a problem with people talking BS and lying about what actually went down the past several years with Favre.

 

[sho nuff]

Gentlemen, this thread isn't about Favre. Why does every friggin QB thread in this place have to end up being about Favre?????

Ask those who actually brought him up.Though...people talk about Favre being about glory and all the Favre talk.I did not hear one interview with McNair on any radio station where Favre's name did not come up.That is ESPN for you.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Nice attempt at a foolish joke.

But...why even post it if you are not going to even try to explain what the hell you meant?

My original comment was extremely simple, thus didn't need anymore explaining.This is a Steve McNair thread, so I don't want to hijack it anymore and would like to invite you to do the same.

Edit to add: I'm actually afraid you're going to continue the 'angry guy on message board' battle that's so common on the internet nowadays. So we can go back to the topic in hand I would like to spell out my original comment.

Steve McNair just retired out of the blue. He didn't leave fans and the media guessing every offseason. He didn't hold a press conference at his charity and act surprise when everyone there thought he was going to announce his retirement. McNair kept a low profile and just did it. In another words, McNair did what Favre didn't and I give him kudos for that.

This is the crux of the argument here. However else you want to spin it, there have been questions propogated about Favre's retirement for the last 3rd of his career. He did anything but have a low profile about it. That's why I still say "Just stop" because the only fact you have on your side is that he didn't drag it out in the offseason "every year". Remove that and your argument is gone. The discussion of Favre's retirement began and ended with what Favre had to say about it. He was the one who brought it up in the first place as young as age 33...noone else would have expected him to retire so young but he has been playing the mentally drained card for 1/3rd of his career. You've read the articles and you can not say your entire argument doesn't hinge on the fact that somebody said "offseason". Favre openly discussed his retirement with the media mid season multiple times in the last several years. It had gone on for far too long.McNair just retired. He didn't let it drag out. You can not say the same about Favre. You say it was his honesty that led him to always admit he was considering retiring, and I am telling you, honestly, that it got played out.

 

[Couch Potato]

Don't get me wrong, I loved Favre. It's just that Favre overload on this board and has been going on for too long. Those who don't like him use any lame excuse to bash him, then the supporters have to come to his defense. I wish people would just let this thread be about McNair and leave it at that.

You're still my buddy sho nuff.

 

[sho nuff]

Nice attempt at a foolish joke.

But...why even post it if you are not going to even try to explain what the hell you meant?

My original comment was extremely simple, thus didn't need anymore explaining.This is a Steve McNair thread, so I don't want to hijack it anymore and would like to invite you to do the same.

Edit to add: I'm actually afraid you're going to continue the 'angry guy on message board' battle that's so common on the internet nowadays. So we can go back to the topic in hand I would like to spell out my original comment.

Steve McNair just retired out of the blue. He didn't leave fans and the media guessing every offseason. He didn't hold a press conference at his charity and act surprise when everyone there thought he was going to announce his retirement. McNair kept a low profile and just did it. In another words, McNair did what Favre didn't and I give him kudos for that.

This is the crux of the argument here. However else you want to spin it, there have been questions propogated about Favre's retirement for the last 3rd of his career. He did anything but have a low profile about it. That's why I still say "Just stop" because the only fact you have on your side is that he didn't drag it out in the offseason "every year". Remove that and your argument is gone. The discussion of Favre's retirement began and ended with what Favre had to say about it. He was the one who brought it up in the first place as young as age 33...noone else would have expected him to retire so young but he has been playing the mentally drained card for 1/3rd of his career. You've read the articles and you can not say your entire argument doesn't hinge on the fact that somebody said "offseason". Favre openly discussed his retirement with the media mid season multiple times in the last several years. It had gone on for far too long.McNair just retired. He didn't let it drag out. You can not say the same about Favre. You say it was his honesty that led him to always admit he was considering retiring, and I am telling you, honestly, that it got played out.

The every year thing is exactly what I disagreed with.So why would I remove that?

I disagreed with it...pointed out that it was factually incorrect...and still get you here spinning this crap around.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Before Eli's gutsy escape-and-amazing-throw in the SB, McNair had a pretty good one of his own against the Rams. They came up a little short, but it was a great 4th quarter.

 

[Slinger]

The every year thing is exactly what I disagreed with.

So why would I remove that?

I disagreed with it...pointed out that it was factually incorrect...and still get you here spinning this crap around.

GB - QB Favre On Letterman: 'Something's Bound To Happen'Source: Don Walker, Milwaukee Jounal-Sentinel

Brett Favre appeared on the "Late Show" with David Letterman on Thursday night and talked about going hunting on game days, the Green Bay Packers' loss to the New York Giants in the NFC Championship Game, and how the City of Green Bay is coping with Favre gone.

And, oh yes, the retirement question. Letterman asked Favre if he was retired or not.

"I have retired. Watch TV a lot, don't you?" Favre said.

Letterman then asked him whether he might start feeling something as mini-camps draw closer.

"You know what, not with mini-camps," Favre said.

Then Favre added: "I wasn't excited about it last year. I think when training camp gets close, I will - something's bound to happen."

That got Letterman excited. "You just said, 'Something's bound to happen,' so this makes me think you're not retired."

Said Favre: "Butterflies, or - I don't know, something's bound to happen."

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Is this Favre playing coy or is there really something there? Your guess is as good as mine. Trying to guess what Brett Favre's going to do is risky business at best. He certainly isn't going out of his way to put to rest any retirement talk though.

Proof #5,281 that I'm right and sho nuffer is wrong.

Steve McNair would never do this as he's 100 times less the drama queen than Favre.

 

[sho nuff]

I have retired

Not sure what is confusing to you.Where he said something is bound to happen? Context anyone....notice it was right after this...

etterman then asked him whether he might start feeling something as mini-camps draw closer."You know what, not with mini-camps," Favre said.

McNair would not do what?Hundreds of talk shows? Oh wait...he did those last week.