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Steven Jackson Owners and Homers (1 Viewer)

they just lost another Olineman...Claude Terrell, I think their RG. That's 3 starting Olinemen out. Im not sure how good things are going to be looking there in St Louis anytime soon.

 
SJax seems like a good guy. His head is on straight and he appears to care about the team and his own accountability. How that translates to the field this weekend is another question. The bottom line is that the OL is decimated and they're simply not opening holes for Jackson. How soon that gets better is anyone's guess. It could be a rough ride for a while at least until they get Incognito back and perhaps Stueisse. I also have not been impressed at all with the play calling. As soon as the Rams get behind, even by the smallest of margins, they abandon the run and start chucking it all over the lot. Extremely predictable. That's why Bulger looks like he got beat with the business end of a baseball bat. He's not going to last to the bye week if things continue as they have.

Problems on the OL are usually not quick fixes. I wouldn't expect much from SJax over the next several weeks. I hope I'm wrong (I dropped alot of coin on him in our auction league redraft this year), but that's how I read the tea leaves.

 
"The linemen said the criticism, which led to running backs coach Wayne Moses restraining Jackson from coach Scott Linehan, was something they did not take personally."

Glad to see Jackson is as frustrated with Linehan as I am. The play calling is atrocious and predictable. I heard a TV commentator this weekend say about the Rams "You pass to put points on the board, you run to win. Thats why they are not winning" I totally agree. In week 1 after his 2 fumbles they were only down 1 point with 23 minutes to play, and they only ran the ball TWICE. 2 times in 23 minutes when down 1. I thought that was bad, it couldn't get any worse right? Week 2- Up for much of the 3rd quarter, but then went down by a point and proceeded to run the ball 7 times in 27 minutes.

I attribute the 2 loses to the play calling. When you are running on 1st down and passing on 2nd and 3rd EVERY time, it becomes predictable. They need to mix things up a bit and give the running game more of a chance.

All that being said, I do expect 100+ yds and a TD this weekend. If not I start to press the panic button!

 
i'm benching him for Portis this week.

at some point during the season you have to realize that it is 2007, and 2006's numbers mean less and less as each week goes on.

granted to start 06 Jackson didnt have a TD til like week 5 anyways.

 
benbadman said:
i'm benching him for Portis this week.at some point during the season you have to realize that it is 2007, and 2006's numbers mean less and less as each week goes on.granted to start 06 Jackson didnt have a TD til like week 5 anyways.
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Problem is the week you sit him is the week he could go off and decisively beat your opponent like he's suppose to. The other problem is that I'm barely pulling wins out of my !@#$ with him on my roster right now.I keep going back and forth. I just don't know what to do with this guy. I know your supposed to play your studs every week but right now he's not anything remotely resembling a stud RB and who are you gonna trade him for?I know the line is beaten up but as another poster stated the play calling is a JOKE. How these guys get paid the amount of money they do to call these Atari- like junior school plays is beyond me. I for one was elated to read he blew up on the sidelines. I'm really surprised it wasn't Bulger who blew up and lost his composure as much as he was getting brutalized behind the line of scrimmage.
 
If you are a Rams fan or love watching them play (i'm the latter) this should be very familiar to you.

1st down - inside run - 3-4 yards

2nd down - pass

3rd down - pass

4th down - punt

the guy was open underneath on an OBSCENE amount of plays last week and IIRC had 3 catches for 36 yards or something like that. He has got to be more involved.

 
I have him in one league and LT2 in another. Luckily I drafted well enough to be 2-0 in both of those leagues. I don't expect to keep getting bailed out if they don't come around. But there's no way I trade them away to watch them rebound on someone else's roster.

They are my captains and will go down with their respective ships if need be.

 
Cowboys#1 said:
If you are a Rams fan or love watching them play (i'm the latter) this should be very familiar to you.1st down - inside run - 3-4 yards2nd down - pass 3rd down - pass 4th down - puntthe guy was open underneath on an OBSCENE amount of plays last week and IIRC had 3 catches for 36 yards or something like that. He has got to be more involved.
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I almost would swear the play calling for passes 90 percent of the time is just for show. Like wow did you see that 12-20 yard pass to Holt or Bruce, just spectacular!But no one says wow the Rams keep digging holes with these second and third and long yardage plays every series.
 
the spanker said:
benbadman said:
i'm benching him for Portis this week.at some point during the season you have to realize that it is 2007, and 2006's numbers mean less and less as each week goes on.granted to start 06 Jackson didnt have a TD til like week 5 anyways.
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Problem is the week you sit him is the week he could go off and decisively beat your opponent like he's suppose to. The other problem is that I'm barely pulling wins out of my !@#$ with him on my roster right now.
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The way I see it is if I leave him on my bench, I'm only going to miss that first week he gets rolling. If I keep starting him, I keep risking him drowning my team for the week. I'd rather miss that one high points game than deal with another week or two or three of poor numbers in my starting lineup.
 
TheLastDispatch said:
the spanker said:
benbadman said:
i'm benching him for Portis this week.at some point during the season you have to realize that it is 2007, and 2006's numbers mean less and less as each week goes on.granted to start 06 Jackson didnt have a TD til like week 5 anyways.
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Problem is the week you sit him is the week he could go off and decisively beat your opponent like he's suppose to. The other problem is that I'm barely pulling wins out of my !@#$ with him on my roster right now.
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The way I see it is if I leave him on my bench, I'm only going to miss that first week he gets rolling. If I keep starting him, I keep risking him drowning my team for the week. I'd rather miss that one high points game than deal with another week or two or three of poor numbers in my starting lineup.
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The problem I have with that theory is that most other teams have their game breakers that could bury your team before you have a chance to even get out of the gate ex. Steve Smith, LT, Moss, Owens, Westbrook, etc. It would be hard for me to live with SJAX busting out and at least negating your opponent's big hitter for the week to have a chance for the win.
 
I can't bench SJax at this point. I went the 2 stud WR route at the turn (Steve Smith, Harrison) and I really couldn't get a hold of any good backs.

Even if I had someone I thought could replace, I couldn't bench him. There's a reason we drafted him that high; you don't want him on your bench when that happens.

 
Yeah, I too am sticking with him one more week. I've got FWP as my #2, so hopefully he can cover for me. Only other options are ADP (still not sold enough to move him above SJax) and C. Brown. But ADP will potentially replace him if he continues to not perform...

 
Haven't seen any mention of his matchup this week?

TB's defense is still proud, it's still quick, it still creates turnovers, and has been invigorated with some youth (Ruud was NFC Defensive POTW).

BUT...even when this defense was in it's prime...it had problems with two things:

1) The Rams offense

2) Physical RBs

I see a decent game at least from SJ...if not 150 and 2 TDs.

 
majarrek said:
Yeah, I too am sticking with him one more week. I've got FWP as my #2, so hopefully he can cover for me. Only other options are ADP (still not sold enough to move him above SJax) and C. Brown. But ADP will potentially replace him if he continues to not perform...
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I'm this close to bench SJAX in favor of ADP.
 
twitch said:
they just lost another Olineman...Claude Terrell, I think their RG. That's 3 starting Olinemen out. Im not sure how good things are going to be looking there in St Louis anytime soon.
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God, really? Man, maybe he isn't worth waiting on if that's true. Any of these guys expected back any time soon?
 
gump said:
Haven't seen any mention of his matchup this week?TB's defense is still proud, it's still quick, it still creates turnovers, and has been invigorated with some youth (Ruud was NFC Defensive POTW).BUT...even when this defense was in it's prime...it had problems with two things:1) The Rams offense2) Physical RBsI see a decent game at least from SJ...if not 150 and 2 TDs.
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Hope your right, but I'm feeling 70 yards on 24 carry's and 0 TD's 4 receptions for 25 yards.
 
mdog1967 said:
gump said:
Haven't seen any mention of his matchup this week?TB's defense is still proud, it's still quick, it still creates turnovers, and has been invigorated with some youth (Ruud was NFC Defensive POTW).BUT...even when this defense was in it's prime...it had problems with two things:1) The Rams offense2) Physical RBsI see a decent game at least from SJ...if not 150 and 2 TDs.
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Hope your right, but I'm feeling 70 yards on 24 carry's and 0 TD's 4 receptions for 25 yards.
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If Jackson gets 24 carries he will be over 100yds, the problem is him getting the ball that much. I would also like to see more than 4 receptions, as would the rest of his owners.
 
the spanker said:
But no one says wow the Rams keep digging holes with these second and third and long yardage plays every series.
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By far the Rams biggest problem is that they do absolutely nothing on first down, and if they do they negate it with some sort of penalty. This doesn't give Jackson good opportunities to run the ball, at least in Linehan's mind. Incognito should be good for a couple false starts and a personal foul penalty per game.If Jackson has any hope of turning things around, the offensive line MUST protect Bulger. If he gets injured, defenses will be able to just key on Jackson. Bulger is taking a beating.
 
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LILB811 said:
the spanker said:
But no one says wow the Rams keep digging holes with these second and third and long yardage plays every series.
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By far the Rams biggest problem is that they do absolutely nothing on first down, and if they do they negate it with some sort of penalty. This doesn't give Jackson good opportunities to run the ball, at least in Linehan's mind. Incognito should be good for a couple false starts and a personal foul penalty per game.If Jackson has any hope of turning things around, the offensive line MUST protect Bulger. If he gets injured, defenses will be able to just key on Jackson. Bulger is taking a beating.
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Another part of the problem is when they do attempt to pass, many times Bulger gets sacked and they are further in the hole which takes the run completely out of the equation. I'm just so sick of seeing 1 minute drives by the Rams. Run, incomplete pass, incomplete pass, punt. It is very frustrating.
 
You don't bench Steven Jackson guys.

The guy is a dual threat running or catching the ball and he is featured. You NEVER bench those types of players, especially against a questionable and not "BAD" matchup. Anyone that benches SJax this week deserves to see those 15+ points on their bench.

PS- San Fran owns St. Louis guys, look it up. And don't overract to two games.

 
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Well, I just traded for him so he should turn it around this week.

I ALWAYS do well with my trades im just $$$ that way.

 
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North said:
mdog1967 said:
gump said:
Haven't seen any mention of his matchup this week?TB's defense is still proud, it's still quick, it still creates turnovers, and has been invigorated with some youth (Ruud was NFC Defensive POTW).BUT...even when this defense was in it's prime...it had problems with two things:1) The Rams offense2) Physical RBsI see a decent game at least from SJ...if not 150 and 2 TDs.
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Hope your right, but I'm feeling 70 yards on 24 carry's and 0 TD's 4 receptions for 25 yards.
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If Jackson gets 24 carries he will be over 100yds, the problem is him getting the ball that much. I would also like to see more than 4 receptions, as would the rest of his owners.
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Ain't that the truth. He was killer in PPR last year racking up points for receptions and yardage/reception bonuses. If the line is in such bad shape, it seems like he's going to have to protect Bulger more (meaning more yards/catches for Bruce as we saw last week).
 
LILB811 said:
the spanker said:
But no one says wow the Rams keep digging holes with these second and third and long yardage plays every series.
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By far the Rams biggest problem is that they do absolutely nothing on first down, and if they do they negate it with some sort of penalty. This doesn't give Jackson good opportunities to run the ball, at least in Linehan's mind. Incognito should be good for a couple false starts and a personal foul penalty per game.If Jackson has any hope of turning things around, the offensive line MUST protect Bulger. If he gets injured, defenses will be able to just key on Jackson. Bulger is taking a beating.
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Isn't he out?
kensat30 said:
You don't bench Steven Jackson guys.

The guy is a dual threat running or catching the ball and he is featured. You NEVER bench those types of players, especially against a questionable and not "BAD" matchup. Anyone that benches SJax this week deserves to see those 15+ points on their bench.

PS- San Fran owns St. Louis guys, look it up. And don't overract to two games.
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Think that very much depends on who you have to replace him. I have Portis. I'll take my chances with Portis till Jackson shows he's back. Shouldn't be more than another week or two, but why take the risk of him getting me another 5 point game when I have a back like Portis?
 
TheLastDispatch said:
LILB811 said:
the spanker said:
But no one says wow the Rams keep digging holes with these second and third and long yardage plays every series.
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By far the Rams biggest problem is that they do absolutely nothing on first down, and if they do they negate it with some sort of penalty. This doesn't give Jackson good opportunities to run the ball, at least in Linehan's mind. Incognito should be good for a couple false starts and a personal foul penalty per game.If Jackson has any hope of turning things around, the offensive line MUST protect Bulger. If he gets injured, defenses will be able to just key on Jackson. Bulger is taking a beating.
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Isn't he out?
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Yea, I meant when he comes back. I know you're not supposed to bench Jackson, but I don't think his #2 ranking this offseason counted on him being kept in as an extra blocker because the offensive line operates like a turnstile. They don't have any confidence and just need some time to gel. In the meantime, that could hurt Jackson.
 
Here are Steven Jackson's thoughts on the subject. Oh, and he's not a fan of handcuffing Brian Leonard to him.

:popcorn:

 
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Good words from SJax there. Encouraging. also encouraging was his explosion and apology to his teammates. Good to see he's frustrated by this too.

This could very well be the week he gets back on track.

 
Deal in my league that just got rejected by the Chad J owner:

S Jackson/L Evans

for

M Lynch/Ron Brown/C Johnson

Was surprised the guy passed on Jackson and Evans for that package

Talk about buying low

 
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RBM said:
Deal in my league that just got rejected by the Chad J owner:S Jackson/L EvansforM Lynch/Ron Brown/C JohnsonWas surprised the guy passed on Jackson and Evans for that packageTalk about buying low
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Chad's a dozen times more valuable than Evans and, with the Bills lousy offense, all they do is give the ball to Lynch. I'm not surprised he didn't take that trade. Things could look different any week now, but until then.......???????
 
TheLastDispatch said:
Good words from SJax there. Encouraging. also encouraging was his explosion and apology to his teammates. Good to see he's frustrated by this too.This could very well be the week he gets back on track.
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Screaming at your OL is not a good thing to see as you implied. Dividing a locker room is not a recipe for success, it is a recipe for failure.
 
To commish is my wish said:
RBM said:
Deal in my league that just got rejected by the Chad J owner:S Jackson/L EvansforM Lynch/Ron Brown/C JohnsonWas surprised the guy passed on Jackson and Evans for that packageTalk about buying low
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Chad's a dozen times more valuable than Evans and, with the Bills lousy offense, all they do is give the ball to Lynch. I'm not surprised he didn't take that trade. Things could look different any week now, but until then.......???????
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I was just figuring that you know Jackson and Evans are gonna get theirs still, and Chad will still throw up some of his usual stinkers. He wont go for 80-100 with a td every game.
 
Keith Lewis said:
TheLastDispatch said:
Good words from SJax there. Encouraging. also encouraging was his explosion and apology to his teammates. Good to see he's frustrated by this too.This could very well be the week he gets back on track.
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Screaming at your OL is not a good thing to see as you implied. Dividing a locker room is not a recipe for success, it is a recipe for failure.
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That lockeroom isn't divided. It's good to see SJax is frustrated by his performance and his teams performance so far this year. Would you want him to just say "Well, we're trying. I don't really care if I don't do any better. As long as everyone is happy." ?Of course not. also good to see he apologized and smoothed over any bumps with the team.
 
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