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Steven Jackson to ATL (2 Viewers)

The offensive line played really poorly in 2013. Matthews should be an immediate upgrade. Without Gonzalez it sounds like they will run more 3WR sets. They also may throw to the RB more.

 
If you look at his and Roddy's numbers once they both got healthy, they both were solid fantasy plays. With Julio out there, I think Jackson can do what Turner did 2 years ago which is about 900 and 10. That's significantly better than where he is going in drafts (around RB 30). Turner finished 18th that last year in Atlanta for a frame of reference.

 
Ilov80s said:
If you look at his and Roddy's numbers once they both got healthy, they both were solid fantasy plays. With Julio out there, I think Jackson can do what Turner did 2 years ago which is about 900 and 10. That's significantly better than where he is going in drafts (around RB 30). Turner finished 18th that last year in Atlanta for a frame of reference.
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Not to mention 30-40 recpts.

 
Biabreakable said:
The offensive line played really poorly in 2013. Matthews should be an immediate upgrade. Without Gonzalez it sounds like they will run more 3WR sets. They also may throw to the RB more.
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yeah, I think this is right on the money, but I drafted him last year, so maybe I'm just stubbornly trying to prove myself right.

it's pretty hard to run a serious 3 wide offense when harry douglas is your #1, and the te will be staying home to block, this year, rather than out running routes.

I mean, in week 1 last year, when he was supposedly old and washed up, he did pick up 77 yds on only 11 carries, and another 45 on 5 catches --- was aging a few more weeks the cliff for him?

 
I'm in the middle of a mock and just took SJax in the 6th as my RB3. I'm hoping people keep sleeping on him. The Falcons offense was a mess last year. With everyone healthy, I don't see why he can't bounce back and be a solid RB2/Flex option.

 
If you take him in the 7th and he plays, say, 12 games at his 2013 end of season productivity (rb2 caliber iirc) seems that would be a bargain especially if you avoid rb early as I'm planning to do.

If Atlantas ol and offense recover you could be looking at a Michael Turner-esque season.

 
Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson is out indefinitely with a left hamstring injury, but is expected to be ready for Week 1.

Coach Mike Smith claimed Tuesday the injury isn't serious, but was vague on Jackson's timeline, only saying he's expected to be ready for Week 1. It's not the same hamstring that cost S-Jax four games in 2013, but it's up for debate whether that's good or bad news. No matter how serious, it's a big blow for a player who had reportedly looked "rejuvenated." It's a reminder that Jackson's advancing age (31) and recent health woes make him a dicey RB2. Rookie Devonta Freeman is worth a draft flier in all formats.

Related: Devonta Freeman

Source: Jay Adams on Twitter

Jul 29 - 6:09 PM
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Monsters of the Midway said:
If you take him in the 7th and he plays, say, 12 games at his 2013 end of season productivity (rb2 caliber iirc) seems that would be a bargain especially if you avoid rb early as I'm planning to do.

If Atlantas ol and offense recover you could be looking at a Michael Turner-esque season.
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The problem of course being that he's going to be questionable every week and might leave several games early.

 
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson is out indefinitely with a left hamstring injury, but is expected to be ready for Week 1.

Coach Mike Smith claimed Tuesday the injury isn't serious, but was vague on Jackson's timeline, only saying he's expected to be ready for Week 1. It's not the same hamstring that cost S-Jax four games in 2013, but it's up for debate whether that's good or bad news. No matter how serious, it's a big blow for a player who had reportedly looked "rejuvenated." It's a reminder that Jackson's advancing age (31) and recent health woes make him a dicey RB2. Rookie Devonta Freeman is worth a draft flier in all formats.

Related: Devonta Freeman

Source: Jay Adams on Twitter

Jul 29 - 6:09 PM
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lol. I wouldn't draft him with a gun to my head. Let someone else deal with this headache.
 
Adam Rank's hard-hitting analysis on NFL Fantasy Live a little while ago:

"Steven Jackson's best days are probably behind him."

:mellow:

 
Is anyone flexing SJax this week? ATL is home and finally favored on a short week. TB is dealing with some key injuries up the middle. If ATL goes up, I can see him seeing more volume than he did vs. NO and CIN (say 15-17 touches) and punching one in at the GL. He's been averaging 4.3YPC on the season, he's looked better than last year. I'm thinking 15/65/1 with a little room to improve on that depending on the dynamic of the game. Too optimistic?

 
SameSongNDance said:
Is anyone flexing SJax this week? ATL is home and finally favored on a short week. TB is dealing with some key injuries up the middle. If ATL goes up, I can see him seeing more volume than he did vs. NO and CIN (say 15-17 touches) and punching one in at the GL. He's been averaging 4.3YPC on the season, he's looked better than last year. I'm thinking 15/65/1 with a little room to improve on that depending on the dynamic of the game. Too optimistic?
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I think you're spot on. I might start him over Chris Johnson if Gerald McCoy ends up being out.

 
I would agree he's looked good. Hard to tell whether the RBBC thus far is due to the fact that he missed virtually all of camp and they're working him in slowly; or that he just can't handle a workhorse role any more.

 
Sabertooth said:
Monsters of the Midway said:
If you take him in the 7th and he plays, say, 12 games at his 2013 end of season productivity (rb2 caliber iirc) seems that would be a bargain especially if you avoid rb early as I'm planning to do.

If Atlantas ol and offense recover you could be looking at a Michael Turner-esque season.
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The problem of course being that he's going to be questionable every week and might leave several games early.
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the main problem is that he is a plodder that sucks. he really doesnt even belong on the football field, he looks so bad. im stuck with him, hopefully for only this week, one league due to all the injuries and whatnot.

 
cvnpoka said:
Sabertooth said:
Monsters of the Midway said:
If you take him in the 7th and he plays, say, 12 games at his 2013 end of season productivity (rb2 caliber iirc) seems that would be a bargain especially if you avoid rb early as I'm planning to do.

If Atlantas ol and offense recover you could be looking at a Michael Turner-esque season.
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The problem of course being that he's going to be questionable every week and might leave several games early.
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the main problem is that he is a plodder that sucks. he really doesnt even belong on the football field, he looks so bad. im stuck with him, hopefully for only this week, one league due to all the injuries and whatnot.
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Not a rhetorical question, have to you actually watched SJax run at all this year? He's far from explosive but also doesn't look very plodding either. Close to half of his carries last week were for 5 or more yards. He's running well and the stars are aligning for a decent game this week (TNF, key injuries to TB). I think he has real flex value.

 
SameSongNDance said:
cvnpoka said:
Sabertooth said:
Monsters of the Midway said:
If you take him in the 7th and he plays, say, 12 games at his 2013 end of season productivity (rb2 caliber iirc) seems that would be a bargain especially if you avoid rb early as I'm planning to do.

If Atlantas ol and offense recover you could be looking at a Michael Turner-esque season.
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The problem of course being that he's going to be questionable every week and might leave several games early.
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the main problem is that he is a plodder that sucks. he really doesnt even belong on the football field, he looks so bad. im stuck with him, hopefully for only this week, one league due to all the injuries and whatnot.
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Not a rhetorical question, have to you actually watched SJax run at all this year? He's far from explosive but also doesn't look very plodding either.
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:goodposting:

He definitely looks leaner this year. He's a matchup play likely at this point, but you could do worse than this matchup vs. Bucs D missing McCoy.

 
With Roddy out for them, and McCoy out for Tampa, hopefully Atlanta comes out with a scheme predicated on the run game.

 
oswizzle said:
we'll see some Action Jackson tonight... Steve Smith SR style for all the Doubters
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If he's EVER going to turn back the clock it's tonight.

The Bucs are down 4 starters on D with the biggest impact in the middle.

Falcons should be run heavy early to set up play action deep.

SJax should get close to 100yds and at least 1 score.

fyi he's not on my team

 
Thinking about throwing him in over Bell (vs Carolina) tonight, Rainey already insterted….Hard to have faith in this guy though. Have not seen enough ATL games to know how he has looked. Gut says it is his night

 
SanDawg said:
Thinking about throwing him in over Bell (vs Carolina) tonight, Rainey already insterted….Hard to have faith in this guy though. Have not seen enough ATL games to know how he has looked. Gut says it is his night
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considering hes on TB im not sure how much that will help you in your analysis
 
This is it. This is the game that will determine if I keep him on the roster. The perfect storm is brewing for him, if he can't seize this opportunity and have a bad game, adios!

 
mrbigg said:
This is it. This is the game that will determine if I keep him on the roster. The perfect storm is brewing for him, if he can't seize this opportunity and have a bad game, adios!
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I feel the same way. I didn't have the guts to start him though.

 
cvnpoka said:
Sabertooth said:
Monsters of the Midway said:
If you take him in the 7th and he plays, say, 12 games at his 2013 end of season productivity (rb2 caliber iirc) seems that would be a bargain especially if you avoid rb early as I'm planning to do.

If Atlantas ol and offense recover you could be looking at a Michael Turner-esque season.
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The problem of course being that he's going to be questionable every week and might leave several games early.
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the main problem is that he is a plodder that sucks. he really doesnt even belong on the football field, he looks so bad. im stuck with him, hopefully for only this week, one league due to all the injuries and whatnot.
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I don't even think this is on the level of casual box score scouting.

this is more like the stuff people have said about andre johnson te last 3 yrs just because some dudes always need to have an opinion about everything.

 
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Kind of rough seeing him break tackles and carry defenders only to come out at the goaline and watch the backups get stuffed.

 
He's running hard, but I don't think he has the stamina to get a lot of touches. He's tapped out several times already in the 1st qtr.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Kind of rough seeing him break tackles and carry defenders only to come out at the goaline and watch the backups get stuffed.
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Yeah and Quizz has looked pretty ineffective. Freeman just got blown up on pass pro. I understand ATL's reasoning, I'd want SJax fresh for the stretch too but if the dudes running well I feel like you should feed him.

ETA: He'll never get 20 touches a game, including tonight.

 
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SameSongNDance said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Kind of rough seeing him break tackles and carry defenders only to come out at the goaline and watch the backups get stuffed.
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Yeah and Quizz has looked pretty ineffective. Freeman just got blown up on pass pro. I understand ATL's reasoning, I'd want SJax fresh for the stretch too but if the dudes running well I feel like you should feed him.

ETA: He'll never get 20 touches a game, including tonight.
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He might not get more than the 7 touches he already has tonight.

 
GDogg said:
SameSongNDance said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Kind of rough seeing him break tackles and carry defenders only to come out at the goaline and watch the backups get stuffed.
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Yeah and Quizz has looked pretty ineffective. Freeman just got blown up on pass pro. I understand ATL's reasoning, I'd want SJax fresh for the stretch too but if the dudes running well I feel like you should feed him.

ETA: He'll never get 20 touches a game, including tonight.
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He might not get more than the 7 touches he already has tonight.
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I'm 100% afraid that you're correct.

 
SameSongNDance said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Kind of rough seeing him break tackles and carry defenders only to come out at the goaline and watch the backups get stuffed.
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Yeah and Quizz has looked pretty ineffective. Freeman just got blown up on pass pro. I understand ATL's reasoning, I'd want SJax fresh for the stretch too but if the dudes running well I feel like you should feed him.

ETA: He'll never get 20 touches a game, including tonight.
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that's why I was banking on those ppr points that it doesn't look like we're getting.

jackson's biggest hurdle is they've got to be one of the passingest teams in the league

 
Kool-Aid Larry said:
SameSongNDance said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Kind of rough seeing him break tackles and carry defenders only to come out at the goaline and watch the backups get stuffed.
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Yeah and Quizz has looked pretty ineffective. Freeman just got blown up on pass pro. I understand ATL's reasoning, I'd want SJax fresh for the stretch too but if the dudes running well I feel like you should feed him.

ETA: He'll never get 20 touches a game, including tonight.
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that's why I was banking on those ppr points that it doesn't look like we're getting.

jackson's biggest hurdle is they've got to be one of the passingest teams in the league
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Yeah I think he got 3 targets the first game, 1 last week. Surprisingly, Freeman leads the team with 5 targets, Quizz only has 2.

 
Relax, it's only one half and a blowout. Overall, the outlook is good, as far as the season goes. I easily would've taken this situation when I drafted him; it's favorable, all things considered.

 
BRONG said:
Relax, it's only one half and a blowout. Overall, the outlook is good, as far as the season goes. I easily would've taken this situation when I drafted him; it's favorable, all things considered.
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No, it's 2 1/2 games. If you easily would've taken this situation when you drafted him, I hope it was in the last few rounds- he isn't getting receptions or goal line work.

 
Kool-Aid Larry said:
cvnpoka said:
Sabertooth said:
Monsters of the Midway said:
If you take him in the 7th and he plays, say, 12 games at his 2013 end of season productivity (rb2 caliber iirc) seems that would be a bargain especially if you avoid rb early as I'm planning to do.

If Atlantas ol and offense recover you could be looking at a Michael Turner-esque season.
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The problem of course being that he's going to be questionable every week and might leave several games early.
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the main problem is that he is a plodder that sucks. he really doesnt even belong on the football field, he looks so bad. im stuck with him, hopefully for only this week, one league due to all the injuries and whatnot.
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I don't even think this is on the level of casual box score scouting.

this is more like the stuff people have said about andre johnson te last 3 yrs just because some dudes always need to have an opinion about everything.
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hope you are watching this game. hes so unreal slow its funny.

 
cvnpoka said:
Kool-Aid Larry said:
cvnpoka said:
Sabertooth said:
Monsters of the Midway said:
If you take him in the 7th and he plays, say, 12 games at his 2013 end of season productivity (rb2 caliber iirc) seems that would be a bargain especially if you avoid rb early as I'm planning to do.

If Atlantas ol and offense recover you could be looking at a Michael Turner-esque season.
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The problem of course being that he's going to be questionable every week and might leave several games early.
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the main problem is that he is a plodder that sucks. he really doesnt even belong on the football field, he looks so bad. im stuck with him, hopefully for only this week, one league due to all the injuries and whatnot.
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I don't even think this is on the level of casual box score scouting.

this is more like the stuff people have said about andre johnson te last 3 yrs just because some dudes always need to have an opinion about everything.
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hope you are watching this game. hes so unreal slow its funny.
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:shrug:

 
humpback said:
BRONG said:
Relax, it's only one half and a blowout. Overall, the outlook is good, as far as the season goes. I easily would've taken this situation when I drafted him; it's favorable, all things considered.
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No, it's 2 1/2 games. If you easily would've taken this situation when you drafted him, I hope it was in the last few rounds- he isn't getting receptions or goal line work.
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and its a 4 way split with antone smith too.

there is a lot of misinformation in this thread and on this board. ppl pimp players that are playing poor so that they can unload them in trades. they downgrade players they dont own with the hope that it devalues them.

i post on another board and everyone is just laughing at how slow and plodding sjax looks and then i come here and ppl actually try to say he is playing well. he left a ton of yards on the field in the first half running thru big holes but failing to make anyone miss or break tackles at the 2nd level.

ofc, if his backups keep fumbling then mebbe he will get more work. it is pretty clear that all 3 of his competitors are far more explosive.

 
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