STL radio station reporting Steven Jackson is out this weekend against (1 Viewer)

[ddog9876]

This is great new for me. Im a Leonard owner in most my leagues and a SJax owner in none. Ive been praying for a Steven Jackson injury ever since preseason and God finally came through for me. Im just hoping the injury is worse than they are letting on and Jackson is out for the year. Leonard could become the steal of the draft this year.

Good thing God came through for you - congrats - you just might be the "chosen" one.

 

[fflnut]

This is great new for me. Im a Leonard owner in most my leagues and a SJax owner in none. Ive been praying for a Steven Jackson injury ever since preseason and God finally came through for me. Im just hoping the injury is worse than they are letting on and Jackson is out for the year. Leonard could become the steal of the draft this year.

I'm praying for a severe Micon injury. Also hoping Micon has an awful fantasy football season for every season he plays for the rest of his life.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

This is great new for me. Im a Leonard owner in most my leagues and a SJax owner in none. Ive been praying for a Steven Jackson injury ever since preseason and God finally came through for me. Im just hoping the injury is worse than they are letting on and Jackson is out for the year. Leonard could become the steal of the draft this year.

Welcome to Bannedville. Population: you.And every day of it deserved - hopefully it's a permanent IP ban.That's really tactless.

 

[Sea Bass]

This is great new for me. Im a Leonard owner in most my leagues and a SJax owner in none. Ive been praying for a Steven Jackson injury ever since preseason and God finally came through for me. Im just hoping the injury is worse than they are letting on and Jackson is out for the year. Leonard could become the steal of the draft this year.

Welcome to Bannedville. Population: you.And every day of it deserved - hopefully it's a permanent IP ban.That's really tactless.

The naked man happens to be right.

 

[BigTex]

So Leonard owners are not supposed to be happy about this news? I play to win and it helps my team a lot if my opponents 1st round pick is out and I hold the replacement that I drafted in the last few rounds of my drafts.

Dude, you had the nerve to thank God for harm that was caused on an individual............Hello! How old are you?

 

[Joe Bryant]

This is great new for me. Im a Leonard owner in most my leagues and a SJax owner in none. Ive been praying for a Steven Jackson injury ever since preseason and God finally came through for me. Im just hoping the injury is worse than they are letting on and Jackson is out for the year. Leonard could become the steal of the draft this year.

Welcome to Bannedville. Population: you.And every day of it deserved - hopefully it's a permanent IP ban.That's really tactless.

He's gone for a while.J

 

[RC94]

This is great new for me. Im a Leonard owner in most my leagues and a SJax owner in none. Ive been praying for a Steven Jackson injury ever since preseason and God finally came through for me. Im just hoping the injury is worse than they are letting on and Jackson is out for the year. Leonard could become the steal of the draft this year.

Welcome to Bannedville. Population: you.And every day of it deserved - hopefully it's a permanent IP ban.That's really tactless.

 

[hbkhbk]

SONAVU...

My preseaon trade of Romo, Randy Moss, J Norwood, and DeAn. Williams for D Brees and S Jackson was looking bad during the first 3 weeks of the season, now its just plain suck....

 

[SCT]

Upgrades/Downgrades on FBG says "he is not expected to miss an extended amount of time". Anyone know where they get this idea?

 

[circelli17]

What is Brian Leonard's upside with Jackson on the shelf? Leonard already seemed to be getting looks as a 3rd down receiver out of the backfield and he looked real good during the preseason when given the opportunity. Considering Jackson was the unanimous #2 pick in most drafts this year (granted he's struggled so far this year), would you consider Leonard a top 20 fantasy RB for the next week or two or perhaps he only has value in PPR leagues? I really loved Leonard coming out of Rutgers because he's one of those backs that can "do it all." That said I wonder if that will translate into fantasy output?

 

[nordstrom24]

Upgrades/Downgrades on FBG says "he is not expected to miss an extended amount of time". Anyone know where they get this idea?

Since our WW transactions clear tomorrow I'd be intrigued to know where this thought is coming from?

 

[letter_j]

No link for obvious reasons...ESPN 1050 Radio just reported on an update that SJax is OUT for 2-3 weeks.

 

[Keith Lewis]

No link for obvious reasons...ESPN 1050 Radio just reported on an update that SJax is OUT for 2-3 weeks.

 

[CiderHouse]

I am afraid that he might be out longer. I hope I am wrong.

 

[RUSF18]

What is Brian Leonard's upside with Jackson on the shelf? Leonard already seemed to be getting looks as a 3rd down receiver out of the backfield and he looked real good during the preseason when given the opportunity. Considering Jackson was the unanimous #2 pick in most drafts this year (granted he's struggled so far this year), would you consider Leonard a top 20 fantasy RB for the next week or two or perhaps he only has value in PPR leagues? I really loved Leonard coming out of Rutgers because he's one of those backs that can "do it all." That said I wonder if that will translate into fantasy output?

I am as big a Leonard homer as you'll find, but I think him being a top 20 RB at this time in his career, with that line, is a major stretch. I think he'll get about 15 carries and some help from the other guys.

 

[J R]

The Ram OL is not that bad. They're going to have trouble pass blocking at OT with Pace and Steussie both out, but they were a good run blocking team last year. If they can get Incognito back soon, they will have pretty much the OL they had at the end of last season. And the Rams had a lot of success running the ball at the end of last season.

FO ranks the 2006 Ram OL as the 6th best run-blocking team - with the caveat that they can only "somewhat separate" OL and RB. They scored particularly high running in the middle, where they ranked 2nd. So far this year, they rank lower overall, 20th, but still score high running in the middle.

 

[Urinal Mint]

Leonard will do a great deal better against the Cowboys than most think. The kid is, simply put, a good football player and good things happen when he has the rock.

Steven Jackson is chopped liver? How about Larry Johnson, is that guy garbage? Offensive lines play a HUGE role in how rb's perform. Guess what? The Rams have a pathetic o-line. Why will Leonard significantly outperform Jackson? Is he a better at running the football? Is he a better receiver? I'm not disputing the guy has talent-what I find hard to believe is people are acting as though he's a BETTER talent than Jackson. If Steven Jackson couldn't get the job done, why will an inferior talent do so much better?

Who said anything about Jackson being a joke? I just said that Leonard will do better against the Cowboys than most people think, underperforming O-Line or not. Put your Jump To Conclusions mat away

 

[Arnold. S]

Leonard won't do anything spectacular, but he'll grind out solid yards and get quite a few receptions. I just hope he'll last in there with that banged up STL oline...

 

[Keith Lewis]

The Ram OL is not that bad. They're going to have trouble pass blocking at OT with Pace and Steussie both out, but they were a good run blocking team last year. If they can get Incognito back soon, they will have pretty much the OL they had at the end of last season. And the Rams had a lot of success running the ball at the end of last season.FO ranks the 2006 Ram OL as the 6th best run-blocking team - with the caveat that they can only "somewhat separate" OL and RB. They scored particularly high running in the middle, where they ranked 2nd. So far this year, they rank lower overall, 20th, but still score high running in the middle.

In yet another major blow to the St. Louis Rams' offensive line, starting left guard Mark Setterstrom went down with a season-ending knee injury in a 24-3 loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Rams O-line not too bad?

Starting LT out for year, Backup LT out for year.....

Starting LG out for year

Starting RG Ingognito out for ???

 

[cstu]

The Ram OL is not that bad. They're going to have trouble pass blocking at OT with Pace and Steussie both out, but they were a good run blocking team last year. If they can get Incognito back soon, they will have pretty much the OL they had at the end of last season. And the Rams had a lot of success running the ball at the end of last season.FO ranks the 2006 Ram OL as the 6th best run-blocking team - with the caveat that they can only "somewhat separate" OL and RB. They scored particularly high running in the middle, where they ranked 2nd. So far this year, they rank lower overall, 20th, but still score high running in the middle.

The fact is they are 24th in YPC (3.5) with one of the best RB's in football and not having faced great run defenses. In the next four weeks they face three decent run defenses (Cowboys, Cardinals and Seahawks) and the #2 run defense (Ravens).

 

[Banger]

I am afraid that he might be out longer. I hope I am wrong.

I agree. Groin pulls can keep guys out a few weeks depending on the severity, a partial tear that just doesn't sound good. Even when he gets back you have to wonder his effectiveness and ability to go full speed.

 

[Raider Nation]

Rams O-line not too bad?Starting LT out for year, Backup LT out for year.....Starting LG out for yearStarting RG Ingognito out for ???

So you're saying that Jackson's poor start MIGHT have something to do with his O-line being inadequate? What a concept!Sincerely,C. Benson

 

[Keith Lewis]

Rams O-line not too bad?Starting LT out for year, Backup LT out for year.....Starting LG out for yearStarting RG Ingognito out for ???

So you're saying that Jackson's poor start MIGHT have something to do with his O-line being inadequate? What a concept!Sincerely,C. Benson

Dear Mr. Benson,Which 2 of your starting O-linemen are on IR, and which has missed the first 3 weeks? Thanks. Sincerely,J. Momma

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Rams O-line not too bad?Starting LT out for year, Backup LT out for year.....Starting LG out for yearStarting RG Ingognito out for ???

So you're saying that Jackson's poor start MIGHT have something to do with his O-line being inadequate? What a concept!Sincerely,C. Benson

Dear Mr. Benson,Which 2 of your starting O-linemen are on IR, and which has missed the first 3 weeks? Thanks. Sincerely,J. Momma

So now you have to have half your OL on IR for your line to suck?Musta missed the memo.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Rams O-line not too bad?Starting LT out for year, Backup LT out for year.....Starting LG out for yearStarting RG Ingognito out for ???

So you're saying that Jackson's poor start MIGHT have something to do with his O-line being inadequate? What a concept!Sincerely,C. Benson

Dear Mr. Benson,Which 2 of your starting O-linemen are on IR, and which has missed the first 3 weeks? Thanks. Sincerely,J. Momma

So now you have to have half your OL on IR for your line to suck?Musta missed the memo.

Ever think maybe the O-line doesn't suck and it's the fact that T. Jones was a better RB. Merriman just went right on by Benson and completely lit up Grossman because dumb dumb didn't do his job, he was probaly afraid Merriman. Ever think the bad YPC is because the RB isn't good? What a concept!!! I'm done talking about this bum, this topic is about Steven Jackson, who in my mind is 100X the back of the aforementioned bum. Let's keep it on topic fellas.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Rams O-line not too bad?Starting LT out for year, Backup LT out for year.....Starting LG out for yearStarting RG Ingognito out for ???

So you're saying that Jackson's poor start MIGHT have something to do with his O-line being inadequate? What a concept!Sincerely,C. Benson

Dear Mr. Benson,Which 2 of your starting O-linemen are on IR, and which has missed the first 3 weeks? Thanks. Sincerely,J. Momma

So now you have to have half your OL on IR for your line to suck?Musta missed the memo.

Ever think maybe the O-line doesn't suck and it's the fact that T. Jones was a better RB. Merriman just went right on by Benson and completely lit up Grossman because dumb dumb didn't do his job, he was probaly afraid Merriman. Ever think the bad YPC is because the RB isn't good? What a concept!!!

Easy Francis...I do think TJ is better. That still doesn't mean the line doesn't suck, and it doesn't mean TJ would do well in CHI this year behind this line. Ease up on the tunnel vision.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Rams O-line not too bad?Starting LT out for year, Backup LT out for year.....Starting LG out for yearStarting RG Ingognito out for ???

So you're saying that Jackson's poor start MIGHT have something to do with his O-line being inadequate? What a concept!Sincerely,C. Benson

Dear Mr. Benson,Which 2 of your starting O-linemen are on IR, and which has missed the first 3 weeks? Thanks. Sincerely,J. Momma

So now you have to have half your OL on IR for your line to suck?Musta missed the memo.

Ever think maybe the O-line doesn't suck and it's the fact that T. Jones was a better RB. Merriman just went right on by Benson and completely lit up Grossman because dumb dumb didn't do his job, he was probaly afraid Merriman. Ever think the bad YPC is because the RB isn't good? What a concept!!!

Easy Francis...I do think TJ is better. That still doesn't mean the line doesn't suck, and it doesn't mean TJ would do well in CHI this year behind this line. Ease up on the tunnel vision.

Chill out Nancy, Let's keep this focused on Steven Jackson. Thanks.

 

[ATRAIN56]

Rams O-line not too bad?

Starting LT out for year, Backup LT out for year.....

Starting LG out for year

Starting RG Ingognito out for ???

So you're saying that Jackson's poor start MIGHT have something to do with his O-line being inadequate? What a concept!Sincerely,

C. Benson

Dear Mr. Benson,Which 2 of your starting O-linemen are on IR, and which has missed the first 3 weeks? Thanks.

Sincerely,

J. Momma

So now you have to have half your OL on IR for your line to suck?Musta missed the memo.

Ever think maybe the O-line doesn't suck and it's the fact that T. Jones was a better RB. Merriman just went right on by Benson and completely lit up Grossman because dumb dumb didn't do his job, he was probaly afraid Merriman. Ever think the bad YPC is because the RB isn't good? What a concept!!! I'm done talking about this bum, this topic is about Steven Jackson, who in my mind is 100X the back of the aforementioned bum. Let's keep it on topic fellas.

Um it was Phillips

 

[J R]

Rams O-line not too bad?Starting LT out for year, Backup LT out for year.....Starting LG out for yearStarting RG Ingognito out for ???

I don't know, Keith, just trying to do some analysis rather than count up how many guys are hurt and call it a day. Setterstrom's just a guy. A year ago their starting LG went out for the year. Setterstrom eventually took his place. Now original LG is healthy. If the Rams can get Incognito back soon - and no more injuries - they won't be very different from what they closed last year well.

The fact is they are 24th in YPC (3.5) with one of the best RB's in football and not having faced great run defenses. In the next four weeks they face three decent run defenses (Cowboys, Cardinals and Seahawks) and the #2 run defense (Ravens).

According to FO's VOA through 3 weeks, the Rams have faced the 5th and 6th best run defenses so far. Dallas, Arizona, and Seattle rank 12, 17, and 19.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Leonard will do a great deal better against the Cowboys than most think. The kid is, simply put, a good football player and good things happen when he has the rock.

Steven Jackson is chopped liver? How about Larry Johnson, is that guy garbage? Offensive lines play a HUGE role in how rb's perform. Guess what? The Rams have a pathetic o-line. Why will Leonard significantly outperform Jackson? Is he a better at running the football? Is he a better receiver? I'm not disputing the guy has talent-what I find hard to believe is people are acting as though he's a BETTER talent than Jackson. If Steven Jackson couldn't get the job done, why will an inferior talent do so much better?

The Rams don't have a pathetic OL. They will get Incognito back soon. Terrell was a starter 2 years ago. They did an excellent job getting push up the middle against Tampa Bay. They just didn't convert it into points, and eventually Haslett's defense got out there and got run over.

You're stretching things here.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Leonard will do a great deal better against the Cowboys than most think. The kid is, simply put, a good football player and good things happen when he has the rock.

Steven Jackson is chopped liver? How about Larry Johnson, is that guy garbage? Offensive lines play a HUGE role in how rb's perform. Guess what? The Rams have a pathetic o-line. Why will Leonard significantly outperform Jackson? Is he a better at running the football? Is he a better receiver? I'm not disputing the guy has talent-what I find hard to believe is people are acting as though he's a BETTER talent than Jackson. If Steven Jackson couldn't get the job done, why will an inferior talent do so much better?

Who said anything about Jackson being a joke? I just said that Leonard will do better against the Cowboys than most people think, underperforming O-Line or not. Put your Jump To Conclusions mat away

I wasn't meaning to call you out. My response was meant for everyone who is jumping on Leonard's bandwagon.

 

[ramsfan]

This is great new for me. Im a Leonard owner in most my leagues and a SJax owner in none. Ive been praying for a Steven Jackson injury ever since preseason and God finally came through for me. Im just hoping the injury is worse than they are letting on and Jackson is out for the year. Leonard could become the steal of the draft this year.

Welcome to Bannedville. Population: you.And every day of it deserved - hopefully it's a permanent IP ban.That's really tactless.

FWIW, that was a GREAT trade in the preseason....After Week One I offered Portis and Big Ben (4 TD's), for Rudi and Brees. Thankfully that was declined....

 

[RC94]

This is great new for me. Im a Leonard owner in most my leagues and a SJax owner in none. Ive been praying for a Steven Jackson injury ever since preseason and God finally came through for me. Im just hoping the injury is worse than they are letting on and Jackson is out for the year. Leonard could become the steal of the draft this year.

Welcome to Bannedville. Population: you.And every day of it deserved - hopefully it's a permanent IP ban.That's really tactless.

FWIW, that was a GREAT trade in the preseason....After Week One I offered Portis and Big Ben (4 TD's), for Rudi and Brees. Thankfully that was declined....

 

[DoubleG]

This is great new for me. Im a Leonard owner in most my leagues and a SJax owner in none. Ive been praying for a Steven Jackson injury ever since preseason and God finally came through for me. Im just hoping the injury is worse than they are letting on and Jackson is out for the year. Leonard could become the steal of the draft this year.

Welcome to Bannedville. Population: you.And every day of it deserved - hopefully it's a permanent IP ban.That's really tactless.

FWIW, that was a GREAT trade in the preseason....After Week One I offered Portis and Big Ben (4 TD's), for Rudi and Brees. Thankfully that was declined....

 

[J R]

Leonard will do a great deal better against the Cowboys than most think. The kid is, simply put, a good football player and good things happen when he has the rock.

Steven Jackson is chopped liver? How about Larry Johnson, is that guy garbage? Offensive lines play a HUGE role in how rb's perform. Guess what? The Rams have a pathetic o-line. Why will Leonard significantly outperform Jackson? Is he a better at running the football? Is he a better receiver? I'm not disputing the guy has talent-what I find hard to believe is people are acting as though he's a BETTER talent than Jackson. If Steven Jackson couldn't get the job done, why will an inferior talent do so much better?

The Rams don't have a pathetic OL. They will get Incognito back soon. Terrell was a starter 2 years ago. They did an excellent job getting push up the middle against Tampa Bay. They just didn't convert it into points, and eventually Haslett's defense got out there and got run over.

You're stretching things here.

which part? they ran 34-136 against tampa bay. by FO's stats, tampa bay has the 5th best rush defense this year, 9th last year. does that sound like a pathetic run game to you? you are the one stretching things throwing around the word 'pathetic' when you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[ramsfan]

SONAVU...My preseaon trade of Romo, Randy Moss, J Norwood, and DeAn. Williams for D Brees and S Jackson was looking bad during the first 3 weeks of the season, now its just plain suck....

FWIW, that was a GREAT trade in the preseason....After Week One I offered Portis and Big Ben (4 TD's), for Rudi and Brees. Thankfully that was declined....NOTE: Oops, hit the wrong reply button on my previous post.

 

[DoubleG]

SONAVU...My preseaon trade of Romo, Randy Moss, J Norwood, and DeAn. Williams for D Brees and S Jackson was looking bad during the first 3 weeks of the season, now its just plain suck....

FWIW, that was a GREAT trade in the preseason....After Week One I offered Portis and Big Ben (4 TD's), for Rudi and Brees. Thankfully that was declined....NOTE: Oops, hit the wrong reply button on my previous post.

There ya go.

 

[FFFanaticc]

Upgrades/Downgrades on FBG says "he is not expected to miss an extended amount of time". Anyone know where they get this idea?

http://www.bnd.com/sports/rams/story/136641.html

Rams coach Scott Linehan said Jackson was injured cutting on a run in the fourth quarter of the team's 24-3 loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday.

"The MRI shows a little bit of an injury there, and he will be out for this game," Linehan said. "He'll be week to week after that."

Linehan said rest was the recommended treatment for Jackson's injury.

"From what (Dr.) Matt Matava told me, if there is such a thing as good news on something like this, it was closer to the end of the groin as opposed to the middle," Linehan said. " I am not a doctor. I guess that means less time out. I just know that he is out for this game."

I am not sure if this is just coach spin, or an honest assesment. Hopefully he is just out for a short period of time. Their bye week is 9, so it could be a situation where they wait until after the bye to bring him back.As an SJax owner, I am not sure what I want. Sure, I'd love to have him available in 1-3 weeks, but perhaps the best coarse of action is lengthy rest, so he can come back solid for the Fantasy stretch and playoffs. I'd hate to see them rush him back, in order to try and save the season, and then he goes down for good in week 7.

I am not too concerned about the Rams O-line, as others have posted, they are getting some guys back from last year. The more concerning thing for me is the Rams are 0-3, and could be totally out of it by the time SJax comes back.

 

[Tanner9919]

Ouch. How long does a groin tear typically take to heal??

they linger almost as long as a Lisfranc injury does.this is a disaster for Sjax owners..if you've ever pulled a groin,you know how long it lasts..weeks if not months.and this is a tear..for a RB , that is bad news..

 

[Max Power]

Even if Sjax misses 3 weeks...

The 0-3 Rams play 3-0 Dallas, 1-2 Ariz, and 2-1 BAL.

I think best case scenario is that they are 1-5 at that point. Maybe 0-6.

Why rush one of your best players back too soon on a lost season?

Just a thought...

 

[packersfan]

Update from RotoWorld:

Sources tell the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that Steven Jackson has a 40 percent tear of his groin.

He's out two weeks at a minimum. The Rams have listed Jackson as "week to week," but the possibility seems real that he could miss a month of action.

Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

 

[Couch Potato]

Update from RotoWorld:Sources tell the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that Steven Jackson has a 40 percent tear of his groin.He's out two weeks at a minimum. The Rams have listed Jackson as "week to week," but the possibility seems real that he could miss a month of action.Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

I wish we could get a doctor into this thread who could give an honest evaluation of what a 40% tear would mean in terms of time on the shelf, and the chances of reinjury if he comes back in a few weeks. To me it sounds like a season-long problem, not 1-3 weeks. In a couple of weeks if this team is 0-5 with BAL up next, the season is down the crapper. If he's still hobbling around, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go on IR at that point. No sense screwing with the franchise RB's health for no reason. Shut him down and have him ready for next year.

 

[Lash]

i think leonard will do better than sjax because he will just jump over all those defenders that have been getting upfield against the rams OL

 

[pantherclub]

Update from RotoWorld:Sources tell the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that Steven Jackson has a 40 percent tear of his groin.He's out two weeks at a minimum. The Rams have listed Jackson as "week to week," but the possibility seems real that he could miss a month of action.Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

I wish we could get a doctor into this thread who could give an honest evaluation of what a 40% tear would mean in terms of time on the shelf, and the chances of reinjury if he comes back in a few weeks. To me it sounds like a season-long problem, not 1-3 weeks. In a couple of weeks if this team is 0-5 with BAL up next, the season is down the crapper. If he's still hobbling around, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go on IR at that point. No sense screwing with the franchise RB's health for no reason. Shut him down and have him ready for next year.

I am no doctor but a 40% tear seems really significant. It would not surprise me that if he is out 4-5 weeks and the Rams are hovering in the one win column that they might shut him down. 40% tear seems really bad.

 

[Tom Baker]

I am no doctor but a 40% tear seems really significant. It would not surprise me that if he is out 4-5 weeks and the Rams are hovering in the one win column that they might shut him down. 40% tear seems really bad.

It's less than half. They don't make athletes like they used to . . .

 

[Dave Stauff]

I know all the early money is on Leonard to get the bulk of the work during the next few weeks, but this might be the time to put Antonio Pittman back on your radar. He's been with the Rams long enough to have a fundamental understanding of the offense, but I have no idea if he is ready for pass blocking duties. If so, we may see him factor into the game plan while Jackson rehabs.

 

[kensat30]

Was Jackson on the cover or any magazines?

Or maybe it was that commercial he did. Guy is getting screwed this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't see the field again for the rest of the season.