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It doesn’t necessarily mean it was frivolous. I don’t know the particulars at issue, but fees are comparatively easy to get under Anti-SLAPP provisions (as opposed to on other matters.) 
I was probably annoyed and a beer in. However I am still annoyed and now working off coffee instead of brew. I don't think this was a Slapp suit by Stormy at Trump. It certainly could have been, but I think it was defamation and fraud and that kind of thing. But even if it was Slapp it would be her seeking the fees from Trump not the other way around. I guess I've expressed myself about this. The goal of the suit was to get Cohen/EC LLC/Trump to drop their arbitration against her and let her out of the NDA, which apparently happened but which Avenatti just couldn't say Yes to. - Maybe I'm wrong (typically am, I think I'd defer to you just about on any point, seriously... so just pontificating here) as I'd really be as happy as anyone to see Trump dragged into deposition or hearing and be forced to provide documentation and the like.

 
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I was probably annoyed and a beer in. However I am still annoyed and now working off coffee instead of brew. I don't think this was a Slapp suit by Stormy at Trump. It certainly could have been, but I think it was defamation and fraud and that kind of thing. But even if it was Slapp it would be her seeking the fees from Trump not the other way around. I guess I've expressed myself about this. The goal of the suit was to get Cohen/EC LLC/Trump to drop their arbitration against her and let her out of the NDA, which apparently happened but which Avenatti just couldn't say Yes to. - Maybe I'm wrong (typically am, I think I'd defer to you just about on any point, seriously... so just pontificating here) as I'd really be as happy as anyone to see Trump dragged into deposition or hearing and be forced to provide documentation and the like.
No, I'm saying anti-SLAPP provisions (basically first amendment add-on laws based on political rivalry) can get a case dismissed and get fees awarded.  I'm not sure what you're talking about.  SLAPP stands for Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation, which isn't something you'd argue when you file a lawsuit, it's a defense.

 
No, I'm saying anti-SLAPP provisions (basically first amendment add-on laws based on political rivalry) can get a case dismissed and get fees awarded.  I'm not sure what you're talking about.  SLAPP stands for Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation, which isn't something you'd argue when you file a lawsuit, it's a defense.
Thanks, I think we're talking about the same thing. - But wouldn't that have done by Stormy the citizen to defend herself against Donald, perhaps the world's most powerful politician, as he had filed the suit to enforce the NDA and silence her? And not by Donald the world class blowhard politician seeking to defend himself against against the citizen?

 
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Thanks, I think we're talking about the same thing. - But wouldn't that have done by Stormy the citizen to defend herself against Donald, perhaps the world's most powerful politician, as he had filed the suit to enforce the NDA and silence her? And not by Donald the world class blowhard politician seeking to defend himself against against the citizen?
No, she sued him for defamation for his tweet that it was a con job.  He responded saying he was entitled to speak politically and hyperbolically because she was claiming he paid her off to keep her quiet so he could win the election, a political claim.  Anti-SLAPP applies because her defamation suit was (according to the judge) intended to stop him from engaging in this political discussion.

 
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No, she sued him for defamation for his tweet that it was a con job.  He responded saying he was entitled to speak politically and hyperbolically because she was claiming he paid her off to keep her quiet so he could win the election, a political claim.  Anti-SLAPP applies because her defamation suit was (according to the judge) intended to stop him from engaging in this political discussion.
Wow, I hope that's not what happened because that would be a real abomination of the purpose of that litigation (IMO). But thanks for the insight, it's an interesting possibility.

 
Privately, Trump not only thought it was strategically smart to call Stormy Daniels 'horseface'; he workshopped the insult before tweeting, Daily Beast reports.

He trial-ballooned it among aides. One source recalled Trump saying, "that ####### horseface."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-believed-his-stormy-daniels-horseface-tweet-was-politically-brilliant?ref=home

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Did Stormy Daniels face change that much since they had their, um, tryst? If not, then he must have a thing for porn actresses with equine features.

 
Privately, Trump not only thought it was strategically smart to call Stormy Daniels 'horseface'; he workshopped the insult before tweeting, Daily Beast reports.

He trial-ballooned it among aides. One source recalled Trump saying, "that ####### horseface."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-believed-his-stormy-daniels-horseface-tweet-was-politically-brilliant?ref=home

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Did Stormy Daniels face change that much since they had their, um, tryst? If not, then he must have a thing for porn actresses with equine features.
The Onion:

Melania’s Heart Sinks After Realizing Husband Uses Pet Name ‘Horseface’ For Every Woman He *****

 
Trump’s Press Sec: He Called Me to Insist His Penis Wasn’t Toadstool-Shaped

According to Trump’s former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham, the description by Stormy Daniels of President Trump’s Penis didn’t go down very well.

In her new book, Grisham says that Trump once felt the need to call her from Air Force One to inform her that his penis was neither small nor shaped like a toadstool.

Amazon link for the book:

I’ll Take Your Questions Now

by former WH Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham.

 
Trump’s Press Sec: He Called Me to Insist His Penis Wasn’t Toadstool-Shaped

According to Trump’s former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham, the description by Stormy Daniels of President Trump’s Penis didn’t go down very well.

In her new book, Grisham says that Trump once felt the need to call her from Air Force One to inform her that his penis was neither small nor shaped like a toadstool.

Amazon link for the book:

I’ll Take Your Questions Now

by former WH Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham.
https://youtu.be/IRI8FDzP71I?t=45

https://youtu.be/68_41cfn5kc?t=343

 
Trump’s Press Sec: He Called Me to Insist His Penis Wasn’t Toadstool-Shaped

According to Trump’s former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham, the description by Stormy Daniels of President Trump’s Penis didn’t go down very well.

In her new book, Grisham says that Trump once felt the need to call her from Air Force One to inform her that his penis was neither small nor shaped like a toadstool.

Amazon link for the book:

I’ll Take Your Questions Now

by former WH Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham.
Correction the first penis wasn't described as "toadstool" shape...it was described as "Toad" from the "Mario" series of games.

 
The statute of limitations has run out to charge Trump for paying hush money to Stormy


Daniels


- the same payment that sent Michael


Cohen


to prison. 

Sickening how Donald Trump continues to slither out of accountability.


Really?  Wasn't it your side that impeached him TWICE?  And isn't your side the one who fought in the courts to get his tax returns so the SDNY can charge him?

Your hyperbole and drama is off the charts here.

 
Really?  Wasn't it your side that impeached him TWICE?  And isn't your side the one who fought in the courts to get his tax returns so the SDNY can charge him?

Your hyperbole and drama is off the charts here.
Why do you run around to protect this guy so much if you don't like him?  You have no opinion on the matter at all ?

 
Why do you run around to protect this guy so much if you don't like him?  You have no opinion on the matter at all ?


Blade Runner is correctly assessing that there were multiple high profile attempts to put Donald Trump in prison and so far he's still prevailed.

You can't blame the opposing team's defense if your team just can't punch the ball into the end zone. It's Trump's fault he has a strong goal line defensive front?

Let's clear some issues up front. If someone out there said Donald Trump likely did something, or multiple things, as President that would be worthy of being sent to prison for life - I'd say sure, that's probably true.

But I'd also say we have an established legal system where you have to prove that. That's not a blanket defense of Trump, that's a blanket defense of THE LEGAL PRINCIPLES that are the foundation of our legal system. When you defend the principles in place you also defend everyone in our society over time. No, it's not always "justice", but it is the law. Notice I said LEGAL PRINCIPLES and not a raw pathway to justice.

And I'd also say that Bill Clinton, George W Bush and Barack Obama don't want Donald Trump in prison. Because if one former POTUS can get tossed in the pokey, all of them can. And who are we kidding. It's not like any of them are immune to the same issue that it's likely each and every US President likely did something in office that should have him sent to prison. It doesn't absolve the crimes committed, but it's a discussion of the motive behind why Trump is getting protected from angles that some people wouldn't normally expect.

Don't be salty if you are a political tribalist and your "team" can't get into the end zone. Orange Man Bad isn't justification for having poor Red Zone execution. If you suck at converting in the Red Zone, it's only proof that you suck at converting in the Red Zone and not some other bizarre narrative you want to conjure up.

You don't like Blade Runner's personal politics, so you want to use that as a means to dismiss the very possibility that he could actually have a point. Just because you don't like someone nor their views does not automatically remove the possibility that they actually have a point. Lots of people despised Jose Canseco. And was he lying about PEDs use in MLB?

What did Herb Brooks say to Mike Eruzione at Lake Placid?

Worry about your own game first, there's plenty there to keep you busy.

 
Blade Runner is correctly assessing that there were multiple high profile attempts to put Donald Trump in prison and so far he's still prevailed.

You can't blame the opposing team's defense if your team just can't punch the ball into the end zone. It's Trump's fault he has a strong goal line defensive front?

Let's clear some issues up front. If someone out there said Donald Trump likely did something, or multiple things, as President that would be worthy of being sent to prison for life - I'd say sure, that's probably true.

But I'd also say we have an established legal system where you have to prove that. That's not a blanket defense of Trump, that's a blanket defense of THE LEGAL PRINCIPLES that are the foundation of our legal system. When you defend the principles in place you also defend everyone in our society over time. No, it's not always "justice", but it is the law. Notice I said LEGAL PRINCIPLES and not a raw pathway to justice.

And I'd also say that Bill Clinton, George W Bush and Barack Obama don't want Donald Trump in prison. Because if one former POTUS can get tossed in the pokey, all of them can. And who are we kidding. It's not like any of them are immune to the same issue that it's likely each and every US President likely did something in office that should have him sent to prison. It doesn't absolve the crimes committed, but it's a discussion of the motive behind why Trump is getting protected from angles that some people wouldn't normally expect.

Don't be salty if you are a political tribalist and your "team" can't get into the end zone. Orange Man Bad isn't justification for having poor Red Zone execution. If you suck at converting in the Red Zone, it's only proof that you suck at converting in the Red Zone and not some other bizarre narrative you want to conjure up.

You don't like Blade Runner's personal politics, so you want to use that as a means to dismiss the very possibility that he could actually have a point. Just because you don't like someone nor their views does not automatically remove the possibility that they actually have a point. Lots of people despised Jose Canseco. And was he lying about PEDs use in MLB?

What did Herb


Brooks


say to Mike Eruzione at Lake Placid?

Worry about your own game first, there's plenty there to keep you busy.


Nailed it.  :thumbup:

 

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