Student attacked for hairstyle and 'stealing culture' (1 Viewer)

[IvanKaramazov]

This is accurate. Flynn (the guy who discovered the consistent rise in IQ) was on an interesting podcast discussing his observations. Not all areas of intelligence have grown and the demands made on the brain by the environment most definitely create generational strengths and weaknesses in intelligence. 

My personal experience (hooray for anecdotal evidence) is that this is correct.  Any generational Flynn effect is going to be pretty small and easily swamped by other factors.  For example, I'm pretty sure that students at my university have actually gotten a little worse at math, on average, since I arrived 15+ years ago.  Obviously that's not because they have lower IQs.  It's much more likely to be the result of atrocious and declining K-12 math education.

I don't teach any courses that require major research papers, but when I talk with colleagues who do, they almost all seem to think that today's students have a more difficult time crafting an argument or even just following along with one.  Given the norms of social media, I don't see any reason to find that observation surprising.   

 

[The General]

Hey Fellas, FYI - the guy leading the republican field for the nomination says stupid stuff daily. Just pointing that out.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Hey Fellas, FYI - the guy leading the republican field for the nomination says stupid stuff daily. Just pointing that out.

Notice that black people aren't claiming exclusive cultural rights to Trump's hair style.

 

[The General]

Notice that black people aren't claiming exclusive cultural rights to Trump's hair style.

 nobody wants to claim that rat nest.

 

[Ilov80s]

My personal experience (hooray for anecdotal evidence) is that this is correct.  Any generational Flynn effect is going to be pretty small and easily swamped by other factors.  For example, I'm pretty sure that students at my university have actually gotten a little worse at math, on average, since I arrived 15+ years ago.  Obviously that's not because they have lower IQs.  It's much more likely to be the result of atrocious and declining K-12 math education.

I don't teach any courses that require major research papers, but when I talk with colleagues who do, they almost all seem to think that today's students have a more difficult time crafting an argument or even just following along with one.  Given the norms of social media, I don't see any reason to find that observation surprising.   

Are you at a competitive university or a community college?

 

[The General]

Notice that black people aren't claiming exclusive cultural rights to Trump's hair style.

Seriously though this is some liberal arts 20 year old barista, the other guy is close to having the nuke codes.

 

[SWC]

I believe Donald Trump has appropriated the culture of early 19th century frontiersmen.  Only he and Davy Crocket, and their like, so proudly sport the wearing of dead animals on their heads.

Actually maybe his hair plays big in Texas where Crocket rocked that style with aplomb at the Alamo.

this was awesome brohan it sort of does look like that awwww man you made the old swcer chuckle take that to the bank bromigo

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The only big deal of it should be where that girl is kicked out of that college.

Her actions rise to that level?

She comes across foolishly, but surely you've seen worse behavior than that?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

this was awesome brohan it sort of does look like that awwww man you made the old swcer chuckle take that to the bank bromigo

Glad to lighten your day.  Later on I may try out a riff on his small hands based on Austin Powers' observations on carnival workers and their small hands. 

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Are you at a competitive university or a community college?

It's a four year doctoral university, but I certainly wouldn't describe it as "competitive."  It's not technically open enrollment, but it's not too far off from that.  We've always admitted students with ACTs in the upper teens, and we have a high percentage of first-generation college students.

On reflection, our enrollment is almost 50% higher than it was when I first got here, so its stands to reason that I should see more poorly-prepared students for that reason alone (both in absolute and proportional terms).  

 

[Ilov80s]

It's a four year doctoral university, but I certainly wouldn't describe it as "competitive."  It's not technically open enrollment, but it's not too far off from that.  We've always admitted students with ACTs in the upper teens, and we have a high percentage of first-generation college students.

On reflection, our enrollment is almost 50% higher than it was when I first got here, so its stands to reason that I should see more poorly-prepared students for that reason alone (both in absolute and proportional terms).  

Right, you came across the point I was thinking. I am a high school teacher and we have similar issues. When I started teaching, students were required to take 3 years of math. Some kids went Alg1-Geo-Alg2, others had PreAlg-Alg1-Geo and others needed 2 years of remedial courses before finishing with algebra. The State changed the curriculum about 8 years ago to say all students must take Alg1-Geo-Alg2 and a 4th year of math. To try and deal with this, we have started the kids taking Algebra in 8th grade. We are considering moving it to 7th grade even. Since then, our failure rates for math classes has gone up, class averages gone down and many veteran teachers are quick to blame "kids today". I don't think it's the kids so much as the expectations. Most of the parents that I deal with tell me they never learned algebra in high school and can't help their kids with math.  In more "working class" areas, the kids are passing up the parents by 6th or 7th grade.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Why the hell are you guys arguing about math?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Why the hell are you guys arguing about math when we all agree that no one likes it?

 

[Ilov80s]

Why the hell are you guys arguing about math?

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[Cold Dead Hands]

Right, you came across the point I was thinking. I am a high school teacher and we have similar issues. When I started teaching, students were required to take 3 years of math. Some kids went Alg1-Geo-Alg2, others had PreAlg-Alg1-Geo and others needed 2 years of remedial courses before finishing with algebra. The State changed the curriculum about 8 years ago to say all students must take Alg1-Geo-Alg2 and a 4th year of math. To try and deal with this, we have started the kids taking Algebra in 8th grade. We are considering moving it to 7th grade even. Since then, our failure rates for math classes has gone up, class averages gone down and many veteran teachers are quick to blame "kids today". I don't think it's the kids so much as the expectations. Most of the parents that I deal with tell me they never learned algebra in high school and can't help their kids with math.  In more "working class" areas, the kids are passing up the parents by 6th or 7th grade.

But how much should I pay for a large pizza as opposed to how much I pay for two mediums?

 

[GROOT]

A funny thing is that dreadlocks are thought to have originated in India, not Africa. So that girl was admonishing that boy for stealing from her culture which "borrowed" from the Indian culture.

Actually they originated from homeless people

 

[Ilov80s]

But how much should I pay for a large pizza as opposed to how much I pay for two mediums?

Mr. Dead Hands, my answer is that you should pay the same for both: Nothing.  Your name doesn't sound Italian so you should not be consuming pizza under any circumstances. Got that you insensitive culinary culture appropriating beast? You are a menace. A walking pestilence. 

 

[Concept Coop]

The guy's fine wearing his hair however he wants; the woman is displaying major ignorance; this is not news.  Racial tension is quick and dirty money for media outlets these days.  

 

[JohnnyU]

This woman has to get expelled.  Can you imagine if that boy had confronted her about her hair being blonde by grabbing her harm, threatening to cut her hair for being blonde? That she was stealing the "white culture".  They would not only have kicked him out of school after the riots, but he probably would serve some jail time and most certainly would be involved in a civil suit and banned a racist for the rest of his life.  My guess is nothing happens to her.  You know, the liberals will say "these are just college kids being college kids".

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

These are just college kids being college kids.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Just kidding.

 

[IC FBGCav]

There are a number of ways people measure this. There are more people in college than ever. More people taking AP classes in high school than ever. More people taking advanced math and science courses than ever. IQ scores also have been increasing consistently over the last 100 years or so.  Look up the Flynn Effect. 

The bolded may or may not be true. It is hard to say. For example, I believe SAT/ACT scores are down from 30 years ago. However, there has been a massive increase in the number of people taking the SAT/ACT. 30 years ago, a much more specific group of high school students attended college and took the SAT/ACT. Now, many states require all students (even students with cognitive disabilities) to take the SAT/ACT. 

Plus said number of people have access to all answers at a click of a button.    Sure that doesn't hurt their intelligence.   There is a huge difference in being smart and knowing how to google to find answers.

 

[Ilov80s]

Plus said number of people have access to all answers at a click of a button.    Sure that doesn't hurt their intelligence.   There is a huge difference in being smart and knowing how to google to find answers.

On standard intelligence tests there is a section for concrete knowledge, so internet access could improve scores in that area. The internet likely has a positive impact on other areas of intelligence, but I don't think that is because you can use it to just look up answers.