Students turned away from schools for not having vaccinations (1 Viewer)

[grateful zed]

Dec. 1 was the deadline many school districts, including Missoula County Public Schools, set for students to provide documentation of having received their required vaccinations. All students are required to have two doses of the varicella vaccine, and students in grades 7-12 are required to have the tetanus and pertussis vaccines.

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i'm not sure what to think on this one, can FBG help me sort this out?

 

[jonessed]

This is one of those cases where the greater good outweighs the loss of some personal liberty.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Sort what out? It's a great policy.

 

[grateful zed]

yeah, but shots hurt and getting them can very traumatic.

 

[joffer]

good

 

[sbonomo]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Sort what out? It's a great policy.

 

[grateful zed]

it's not like there is a black plague or leprosy out break going on.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Sort what out? It's a great policy.

 

[grateful zed]

is this a nationwide thing or just a local phenomena?

 

[joffer]

is this a nationwide thing or just a local phenomena?

science? It's everywhere

 

[grateful zed]

do they do this in europe?

 

[Binky The Doormat]

This is one of those cases where the greater good outweighs the loss of some personal liberty.

#### in' eh mother ####ers.

 

[Christo]

good

 

[PatsWillWin]

do they do this in europe?

Don't know about Europe, but here in Australia, everyone gets childcare costs subsidized. At least 50% is paid for by the government, more so based on your family's income. They just recently passed a law saying that if you don't vaccinate your kids, you will not receive the government subsidies. They call it the "No Jab, No Pay" policy. I assume it's a first step.

 

[joffer]

do they do this in europe?

why?

 

[saintfool]

love this.

next thing you know, they'll make teachers teach to an agreed-on, shared education standards. a "common" core of education, if you will.

 

[grateful zed]

think of the collateral damage

 

[steelerfan1]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

 

[NCCommish]

Long overdue for a return to common sense on this issue. This should be the law everywhere. Way it worked when I was a kid.

 

[The Future Champs]

About time. Screw the anti vaxxers.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Some kids can't be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems.

 

[The Future Champs]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Nope. Some of the vaccines in question have limited effectiveness. unvaccinated kids raise the risk level for everyone.

 

[steelerfan1]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Some kids can't be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems.

so these kids with compromised immune systems aren't allowed in school then?

 

[steelerfan1]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Nope. Some of the vaccines in question have limited effectiveness. unvaccinated kids raise the risk level for everyone.

ok, makes sense. thanks.

 

[Mister CIA]

Dec. 1 was the deadline many school districts, including Missoula County Public Schools, set for students to provide documentation of having received their required vaccinations. All students are required to have two doses of the varicella vaccine, and students in grades 7-12 are required to have the tetanus and pertussis vaccines.

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i'm not sure what to think on this one, can FBG help me sort this out?

I hear there is a lot of sheep ####### going on up there. Can't be too safe.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

yeah, but shots hurt and getting them can very traumatic.

But not as traumatic, or have the long lasting effects as the diseases they prevent.

 

[grateful zed]

Dec. 1 was the deadline many school districts, including Missoula County Public Schools, set for students to provide documentation of having received their required vaccinations. All students are required to have two doses of the varicella vaccine, and students in grades 7-12 are required to have the tetanus and pertussis vaccines.

link

i'm not sure what to think on this one, can FBG help me sort this out?

I hear there is a lot of sheep ####### going on up there. Can't be too safe.

touche

 

[joffer]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

holy crap. I can't believe no one has ever thought of this

 

[FreeBaGeL]

it's not like there is a black plague or leprosy out break going on.

Well yeah, because of vaccines. Otherwise we might all be freaking out about smallpox right now.

 

[matuski]

it's not like there is a black plague or leprosy out break going on.

Well yeah, because of vaccines. Otherwise we might all be freaking out about smallpox right now.

You have a small what?

 

[skol asylum]

I work for a healthcare system and all employees are required to get flu shots yearly. No shot no work even for corporate people who don't interact with patients. I think you can sign some sort of religious objection form and wear a mask during flu season.

 

[NCCommish]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Actually herd immunity is a thing. In other words if a large majority of children are vaccinated it does protect non-vaccinated kids to some degree. The problem is we have gone from a handful of people not getting them to nearly majority in some places. It doesn't work when that's the case. It's why people were allowed to opt out to start with but the numbers are too high now and its time to crackdown.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Some kids can't be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems.

so these kids with compromised immune systems aren't allowed in school then?

Those kids' parents don't have a choice, so yes they are allowed to go to school.

 

[grateful zed]

im just glad we get to hash this out.

 

[sbonomo]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

if the vaccines were 100% effective that would be true.

 

[[scooter]]

I will wait to see where Donald Trump stands on this.

 

[elbowrm]

He'll get rid of the diseases and it will be tremendous.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

is this a nationwide thing or just a local phenomena?

science? It's everywhere

I wish.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

think of the collateral damage

Vaccines make you fugly?

 

[grateful zed]

think of the collateral damage

Vaccines make you fugly?

they make you fugly.

 

[steelerfan1]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Some kids can't be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems.

so these kids with compromised immune systems aren't allowed in school then?

Those kids' parents don't have a choice, so yes they are allowed to go to school.

if this is the case, it doesn't make much sense. non vaccinated is non vaccinated. shouldn't matter the reason.

 

[joffer]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Some kids can't be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems.

so these kids with compromised immune systems aren't allowed in school then?

Those kids' parents don't have a choice, so yes they are allowed to go to school.

if this is the case, it doesn't make much sense. non vaccinated is non vaccinated. shouldn't matter the reason.

wow

 

[steelerfan1]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Some kids can't be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems.

so these kids with compromised immune systems aren't allowed in school then?

Those kids' parents don't have a choice, so yes they are allowed to go to school.

if this is the case, it doesn't make much sense. non vaccinated is non vaccinated. shouldn't matter the reason.

wow

sorry as this is text and may have come across cold which was not my intention. but why would the reason a child isn't vaccinated, be it the family believes it may harm the child or the child has a compromised immune system matter? if a vaccinated person is what the school deems is needed for the protection of the masses shouldn't it be black and white? you are either vaccinated and able to attend or you are not and can't.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Some kids can't be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems.

so these kids with compromised immune systems aren't allowed in school then?

Those kids' parents don't have a choice, so yes they are allowed to go to school.

if this is the case, it doesn't make much sense. non vaccinated is non vaccinated. shouldn't matter the reason.

wow

sorry as this is text and may have come across cold which was not my intention. but why would the reason a child isn't vaccinated, be it the family believes it may harm the child or the child has a compromised immune system matter? if a vaccinated person is what the school deems is needed for the protection of the masses shouldn't it be black and white? you are either vaccinated and able to attend or you are not and can't.

I've got a student that only has to do half of the classwork I assign because he has a learning disability. Do you think I should give this same accommodation to lazy little pukes because their parents ask for it?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

it's not like there is a black plague or leprosy out break going on.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-47229/The-return-polio.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/12/measles-elimination-vaccine/418155/

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/Whooping-cough-outbreak-in-southern-Manitoba-related-to-non-vaccination-342114331.html

 

[babydemon90]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Some kids can't be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems.

so these kids with compromised immune systems aren't allowed in school then?

Those kids' parents don't have a choice, so yes they are allowed to go to school.

if this is the case, it doesn't make much sense. non vaccinated is non vaccinated. shouldn't matter the reason.

wow

sorry as this is text and may have come across cold which was not my intention. but why would the reason a child isn't vaccinated, be it the family believes it may harm the child or the child has a compromised immune system matter? if a vaccinated person is what the school deems is needed for the protection of the masses shouldn't it be black and white? you are either vaccinated and able to attend or you are not and can't.

The number of kids who medically cannot get vaccinated is a very small percentage. It is well within the acceptable threshold, so it presents very little risk. It's when you up the percentage of the unvaccinated by allowing people who just don't feel like it to join the school population that it increases the risk and becomes unacceptable.

 

[steelerfan1]

Let the whack jobs that endanger all of the other kids home school their own brats. Great rule.

no children here, and probably a stupid question, but if all the other kids were vaccinated wouldn't only the whack job kids be in trouble?

Some kids can't be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems.

so these kids with compromised immune systems aren't allowed in school then?

Those kids' parents don't have a choice, so yes they are allowed to go to school.

if this is the case, it doesn't make much sense. non vaccinated is non vaccinated. shouldn't matter the reason.

wow

sorry as this is text and may have come across cold which was not my intention. but why would the reason a child isn't vaccinated, be it the family believes it may harm the child or the child has a compromised immune system matter? if a vaccinated person is what the school deems is needed for the protection of the masses shouldn't it be black and white? you are either vaccinated and able to attend or you are not and can't.

I've got a student that only has to do half of the classwork I assign because he has a learning disability. Do you think I should give this same accommodation to lazy little pukes because their parents ask for it?

no, but I guess I am not getting it so will quit while I am behind as I am clearly clueless, so my apologies. my thought s were along the lines of, the disease is not going to discriminate and say, oh the person wasn't vaccinated because they have an immune issue therefore I won't put him/her at risk but this child didn't get vaccinated because he/she was against vaccinations so I am going to infect them.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Yeah, you're not getting it.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Sort what out? It's a great policy.