Suicide (2 Viewers)

[cstu]

However, the main reason so few players will ever show a long-term profit -- minimal or enough to live on -- is ...

5.) The "rake" casinos and online sites charge, which is the money they take out of each pot (or the hourly seat fee some charge for no-limit games) that allows them to stay in business most profitably.

Consider the following typical example, and the inevitability that follows:

Generally speaking, most casinos and online sites will take $4 out of any reasonably-sized pot. If you play, say, 60 hands per hour in a 10-handed $10-20 game online, the site will wind up taking about $240 out of the game. So, in theory, if you play with the same 10 players for 40 hours over a week, and all the players are fairly evenly matched in ability, and all have a similar amount of luck -- good and bad -- during that time, the casino/site will have taken about $10,000 out of the game by the end of the week. This means that if each player starts with a $1,000 bankroll -- which is a reasonable amount to take part in a $10-20 game -- by the end of the week, everybody would be completely broke. (And if you play in two or more games simultaneously -- especially of they are six-handed games or, worse, high-speed games -- it might not take anywhere near a week.)

So much wrong about that I don't even know where to start.

Lol @ a $1000 being a "reasonable amount" to take part in a $10-20 game (I assume NL). Good lord. Maybe it was a typo and they meant to say $1-$2 NL

ETA -- Don't want to make this about poker. It's mind-boggling to me that he's not motivated to look for a job because he knows he can win at poker.

It was just an example and maybe a typo, but do you disagree that the rake makes it more difficult to profit?

 

[shader]

Why are you so against trying to find a job? When did you last work?

It is a mental block. I feel like I am being forced to go back to work because I made a bad decision to loan my friend money and she won't pay me back. It's taken a bankroll that should be in 5 figures to 0. It's my fault. I shouldn't have loaned her a cent. But I did. Because when she said 'I pay you back' I thought 'Well, she'll pay me back.' So I blame her as much as I blame myself.

It's not like I can get a job and start working tomorrow.

I left my job last April.

Most of us are forced to work because we enjoy eating, having homes, paying the electric bills, and such.

This is a strange attitude. Reminds me of my children who don't want to go to school.

Work stinks. Few of us really WANT to work...but it's just a necessary part of life, unless you are one of the few that happen to be independently wealthy, are a complete mooch, or want to live on the streets.

Just get a job, and mentally commit to the fact that this is part of life. It doesn't mean life is over. Get an office job and surf the FFA all day like most of the yahoos on this board.

 

[fred_1_15301]

However, the main reason so few players will ever show a long-term profit -- minimal or enough to live on -- is ...

5.) The "rake" casinos and online sites charge, which is the money they take out of each pot (or the hourly seat fee some charge for no-limit games) that allows them to stay in business most profitably.

Consider the following typical example, and the inevitability that follows:

Generally speaking, most casinos and online sites will take $4 out of any reasonably-sized pot. If you play, say, 60 hands per hour in a 10-handed $10-20 game online, the site will wind up taking about $240 out of the game. So, in theory, if you play with the same 10 players for 40 hours over a week, and all the players are fairly evenly matched in ability, and all have a similar amount of luck -- good and bad -- during that time, the casino/site will have taken about $10,000 out of the game by the end of the week. This means that if each player starts with a $1,000 bankroll -- which is a reasonable amount to take part in a $10-20 game -- by the end of the week, everybody would be completely broke. (And if you play in two or more games simultaneously -- especially of they are six-handed games or, worse, high-speed games -- it might not take anywhere near a week.)

So much wrong about that I don't even know where to start.

Lol @ a $1000 being a "reasonable amount" to take part in a $10-20 game (I assume NL). Good lord. Maybe it was a typo and they meant to say $1-$2 NL

ETA -- Don't want to make this about poker. It's mind-boggling to me that he's not motivated to look for a job because he knows he can win at poker.

It was just an example and maybe a typo, but do you disagree that the rake makes it more difficult to profit?

Yes it makes it more difficult but certainly not impossible. There are a lot of winning poker players at the casino.

 

[El Floppo]

Why are you so against trying to find a job? When did you last work?

It is a mental block. I feel like I am being forced to go back to work because I made a bad decision to loan my friend money and she won't pay me back. It's taken a bankroll that should be in 5 figures to 0. It's my fault. I shouldn't have loaned her a cent. But I did. Because when she said 'I pay you back' I thought 'Well, she'll pay me back.' So I blame her as much as I blame myself.

It's not like I can get a job and start working tomorrow.

I left my job last April.

If you want to be a professional, act like one. You don't loan someone your bankroll, let alone someone with no way to pay it back.

How are you surviving now with no money and no income?

I'm worn out right now- but this post doesn't seem to help at all... telling bw what he knows already, and then asking the question that's the reason he's here talking about this in the first place. wtf.

best of luck, bw- I agree with the others regarding the gf. I'd throw out that you should tell her you're up a roaring rapids creek because of her... if she's your friend, wtf is she going to do about it. something, or gtfo permanently.

after that- what has always pulled me out of the depths is taking steps... any kind of steps, in any direction, to break out of the hopelessly frozen stasis that I (and sounds like you) get stuck in from depression. steps, for me, leads to more steps in better directions until I can find the surface again. I was about to write to make the steps useful... make a plan or whatever- but #### that. for me, I end up getting frozen trying to find the right plan- so just start stepping, IMO.

 

[Major]

I wish all the best to those stuck in the mud. Speaking from personal experience, hitting rock bottom is a great place to rebuild your life on a solid foundation and make positive change. You cant see it now but trust me, this to shall pass.

"And once the storm is over, you won't remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won't even be sure, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the storm, you won't be the same person who walked in. That's what this storm's all about."- Haruki Murakami

 

[johnnycakes]

Court date on Monday to hear motions to suppress and motions to dismiss on the laundry list of charges pending against me relating to the events of this past Christmas Day 2014.

Good thing I called Saul!!!

I also suffer from cluster headaches... Have been since I turned 40. They're brutal. Nicknamed "suicide headaches" because the pain is so bad. One of the most effective treatments is to breathe pure oxygen. I'm doing that right now. Doctor is arranging to have an O2 tank of my very own delivered to my home this afternoon, along with all the paraphernalia.

Just in time for court on Monday.

I'll go wheeling in with my oxygen tank and mask and take a seat to hear them talk about what should become of these charges relating to a bona fide suicide attempt. My attorney can explain to the judge the oxygen is used to treat suicide headaches.

 

[MikeIke]

Good luck, Johnnycakes

 

[CurlyNight]

Court date on Monday to hear motions to suppress and motions to dismiss on the laundry list of charges pending against me relating to the events of this past Christmas Day 2014.

Good thing I called Saul!!!

I also suffer from cluster headaches... Have been since I turned 40. They're brutal. Nicknamed "suicide headaches" because the pain is so bad. One of the most effective treatments is to breathe pure oxygen. I'm doing that right now. Doctor is arranging to have an O2 tank of my very own delivered to my home this afternoon, along with all the paraphernalia.

Just in time for court on Monday.

I'll go wheeling in with my oxygen tank and mask and take a seat to hear them talk about what should become of these charges relating to a bona fide suicide attempt. My attorney can explain to the judge the oxygen is used to treat suicide headaches.

Will be thinking of you on Monday. X

 

[skillz]

I had dinner with Kevin Hines last night since he was in town speaking and my wife was one of the team that booked his speaking engagement. He survived a suicide attempt jumping off the Golden Gate bridge and now goes around telling his story and how suicide is not the answer. He also has a book that shares that message. I encourage anyone that is down and contemplating suicide to research his story and message. It may help you process your thoughts and figure out life is worth living and there are many people who care about you.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I had dinner with Kevin Hines last night since he was in town speaking and my wife was one of the team that booked his speaking engagement. He survived a suicide attempt jumping off the Golden Gate bridge and now goes around telling his story and how suicide is not the answer. He also has a book that shares that message. I encourage anyone that is down and contemplating suicide to research his story and message. It may help you process your thoughts and figure out life is worth living and there are many people who care about you.

Is he the guy from The Bridge documentary? Kind of looks like him. I was just talking about him the other day and that movie. Crazy doc. And his story was chilling. When he's talking about how he jumped over the railing and as soon as his hands left the rail he thought "I don't want to die", it gave me chills.

 

[Swing 51]

Court date on Monday to hear motions to suppress and motions to dismiss on the laundry list of charges pending against me relating to the events of this past Christmas Day 2014.

What happend during Xmas of 2014? Thread on it in here somewhere?

Good luck Johnny!

 

[johnnycakes]

I had dinner with Kevin Hines last night since he was in town speaking and my wife was one of the team that booked his speaking engagement. He survived a suicide attempt jumping off the Golden Gate bridge and now goes around telling his story and how suicide is not the answer. He also has a book that shares that message. I encourage anyone that is down and contemplating suicide to research his story and message. It may help you process your thoughts and figure out life is worth living and there are many people who care about you.

Is he the guy from The Bridge documentary? Kind of looks like him. I was just talking about him the other day and that movie. Crazy doc. And his story was chilling. When he's talking about how he jumped over the railing and as soon as his hands left the rail he thought "I don't want to die", it gave me chills.

In contrast, I was angry when my wife pulled the pistol up and it fired over my head. When I figured out I wasn't dead, I went in for the .45. I'm still not all that thrilled she saved me. But I'll deal with it for now.

 

[El Floppo]

I had dinner with Kevin Hines last night since he was in town speaking and my wife was one of the team that booked his speaking engagement. He survived a suicide attempt jumping off the Golden Gate bridge and now goes around telling his story and how suicide is not the answer. He also has a book that shares that message. I encourage anyone that is down and contemplating suicide to research his story and message. It may help you process your thoughts and figure out life is worth living and there are many people who care about you.

Is he the guy from The Bridge documentary? Kind of looks like him. I was just talking about him the other day and that movie. Crazy doc. And his story was chilling. When he's talking about how he jumped over the railing and as soon as his hands left the rail he thought "I don't want to die", it gave me chills.

that movie is horrible- in a 'can't unsee' way. I felt like it went too far into snuff realm with some of what they decided to show.

the underlying idea of it- important. but ugh.

I hope you feel better johnny and best of luck with the hearing. didn't Junior go to court with an oxygen tank?

 

[Johnnymac]

Court date on Monday to hear motions to suppress and motions to dismiss on the laundry list of charges pending against me relating to the events of this past Christmas Day 2014.

Good thing I called Saul!!!

I also suffer from cluster headaches... Have been since I turned 40. They're brutal. Nicknamed "suicide headaches" because the pain is so bad. One of the most effective treatments is to breathe pure oxygen. I'm doing that right now. Doctor is arranging to have an O2 tank of my very own delivered to my home this afternoon, along with all the paraphernalia.

Just in time for court on Monday.

I'll go wheeling in with my oxygen tank and mask and take a seat to hear them talk about what should become of these charges relating to a bona fide suicide attempt. My attorney can explain to the judge the oxygen is used to treat suicide headaches.

I hope things work out Ok for you Johnnycakes. Keep your head up.

 

[skillz]

I had dinner with Kevin Hines last night since he was in town speaking and my wife was one of the team that booked his speaking engagement. He survived a suicide attempt jumping off the Golden Gate bridge and now goes around telling his story and how suicide is not the answer. He also has a book that shares that message. I encourage anyone that is down and contemplating suicide to research his story and message. It may help you process your thoughts and figure out life is worth living and there are many people who care about you.

Is he the guy from The Bridge documentary? Kind of looks like him. I was just talking about him the other day and that movie. Crazy doc. And his story was chilling. When he's talking about how he jumped over the railing and as soon as his hands left the rail he thought "I don't want to die", it gave me chills.

Yes, same guy. I watched that documentary years ago and didn't really remember much about his part.

It was a real interesting dinner, he is a very nice guy. Travels all over now - he was telling us about being in Australia a while ago. I asked him a lot of questions at the dinner and I think my wife was worried I was being too invasive, but he was fine talking about the whole experience. It was eerie when he was talking about being in the water without being able to use his legs and how he thought "I can't believe I didn't die yet and now I am going to drown in the water." Somehow though he was propped up in the water by a sea lion. He was also rescued by the Coast Guard and that saved his life because the lady who saw him jump called her friend in the Coast Guard and they got there quicker than if she would have called 911. He was able to get pulled out before succumbing to hypothermia. So not only did he have to survive the fall, but once he got in the water he didn't drown due to the sea lion and didn't freeze to death due to the lady calling the Coast Guard right away.

It's good to see him use that experience to try to make a positive impact on other people who struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Love ya johnny cakes.

 

[Statcruncher]

He survived a suicide attempt jumping off the Golden Gate bridge and now goes around telling his story and how suicide is not the answer.

How does failing while attempting to do something make him the authority about what he never did? Not saying he's wrong, just seems like an odd situation to me.

Let me be clear, I truly hope for the best for everyone who has ever struggled with this topic and hope they can find the strength to continue to try to find happiness and joy.

 

[Henry Ford]

He survived a suicide attempt jumping off the Golden Gate bridge and now goes around telling his story and how suicide is not the answer.

How does failing while attempting to do something make him the authority about what he never did? Not saying he's wrong, just seems like an odd situation to me.

Let me be clear, I truly hope for the best for everyone who has ever struggled with this topic and hope they can find the strength to continue to try to find happiness and joy.

Yeah, we should definitely ask the people who successfully committed suicide how they feel about it instead.

Think, McFly. Think.

 

[CurlyNight]

Love ya johnny cakes.

Ditto. You don't have to know someone in real life to give them love. I truly wish you well. I wish I could do more than that, but all I can do is give you love, encouragement, well wishes and support. Living with my cousin who is under my care struggling gives me good perspective on you moment to moment struggles. Take it a moment at a time and take advantage of all your support system. Too many people are counting on you to get better and enjoy life. X

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

Johnnycakes,

I dont post a whole lot so maybe this will carry a little weight.

It breaks my heart that you think that suicide is the only only way out (or have been in a place at times that makes it feel that way). I will never be able to fathom the mind set that you must be in when in gets to that point.

From a random Internet guy, there has to be something, maybe buried deep in the back of your mind, that makes you second guess your intentions when you feel like the only way out is suicide. Anything. Focus on that.

We all see how much pain and sorrow people feel when loved ones leave us too early. I'm glad you have stayed around, even if you feel like no one would miss you.

One think I can say is, when those thoughts creep up on you, just think that maybe there is something you are supposed to do before you leave. You'll never know what that is probably but the rest of us will. If it is to open up dialogue so people can talk about this subject openly then maybe you are on the right path. It's a tough subject and perhaps you are supposed to be here so the rest of us can better undertand. Stick around bud.

 

[bweiser]

Johnnycakes,

I dont post a whole lot so maybe this will carry a little weight.

It breaks my heart that you think that suicide is the only only way out (or have been in a place at times that makes it feel that way). I will never be able to fathom the mind set that you must be in when in gets to that point.

From a random Internet guy, there has to be something, maybe buried deep in the back of your mind, that makes you second guess your intentions when you feel like the only way out is suicide. Anything. Focus on that.

We all see how much pain and sorrow people feel when loved ones leave us too early. I'm glad you have stayed around, even if you feel like no one would miss you.

One think I can say is, when those thoughts creep up on you, just think that maybe there is something you are supposed to do before you leave. You'll never know what that is probably but the rest of us will. If it is to open up dialogue so people can talk about this subject openly then maybe you are on the right path. It's a tough subject and perhaps you are supposed to be here so the rest of us can better undertand. Stick around bud.

Can't speak for anyone else, but sometimes you just reach a point where you are like 'There is no other way out (other than suicide).'

I know. I feel like I'm at that point again.

I started working last weekend. I have been driving for Uber. It's not a bad gig. Long Friday and Saturday nights. I made about $150 each night. It would have been more Saturday, but toward the end of the night, I start experiencing car trouble. I decide not to take on any more riders and start heading home.

As I'm driving home, the 'service engine soon' light comes on. The last thing I can afford at this point is to get my car fixed.

It really feels like someone upstairs has decided to just take a dump on my head and enjoy a non-stop laugh at my expense.

I can't make enough money in the next few weeks to avoid eviction. I might have been close if I could have driven for Uber every night and now I can't.

So you tell me: Why wouldn't I think suicide is the only way out?

 

[fantasycurse42]

$150 a night gets most people on their feet. Most Meinekes will give a free diagnostic - They say this in their commercials IIRC...

Could be something stupid like an oxygen sensor which doesn't cost much or something along those lines.

We can compare options:

A) Death, everything is over... In all circumstances this feels like the wrong option.

B) Worst case, eviction - you continue with Uber, $150 a night, get a monthly efficiency for cheap, start saving, looking for a job in what your field is, start saving, and put things back together.

Option B feels like the right move here dude. Think things through.

 

[sports_fan]

Congrats on the job!

The service engine light is constantly on in my car. It's usually a really minor issue. The last time it was something wrong with my gas cap not sealing properly. I bought a new one for a few dollars and that was that.

 

[bweiser]

I was having trouble accelerating from a stop so I think it is something more serious. Crappy thing is, the car only has 14,700 miles on it.

Also, I'm not sure I can get $150/night from Uber. That's a good weekend rate. Not sure what weeknights will bring. Was hoping to be out there again tonight to see.

 

[fantasycurse42]

14,700 miles, do you have a warranty on the car?

Is it less than 3 years since you purchased it?

 

[chet]

JC--how are you doing, GB?

 

[cstu]

Can't speak for anyone else, but sometimes you just reach a point where you are like 'There is no other way out (other than suicide).'

I know. I feel like I'm at that point again.

I started working last weekend. I have been driving for Uber. It's not a bad gig. Long Friday and Saturday nights. I made about $150 each night. It would have been more Saturday, but toward the end of the night, I start experiencing car trouble. I decide not to take on any more riders and start heading home.

As I'm driving home, the 'service engine soon' light comes on. The last thing I can afford at this point is to get my car fixed.

It really feels like someone upstairs has decided to just take a dump on my head and enjoy a non-stop laugh at my expense.

I can't make enough money in the next few weeks to avoid eviction. I might have been close if I could have driven for Uber every night and now I can't.

So you tell me: Why wouldn't I think suicide is the only way out?

You're not going to be out on the street any time soon.

Depending on where you live it can be a very long process if you choose to fight it.

http://uzohlaw.com/?page_id=118

Also, a check engine light when you have a car with 14k miles on it is no reason to kill yourself. Get it checked out, it's probably something minor.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Johnnycakes,

I dont post a whole lot so maybe this will carry a little weight.

It breaks my heart that you think that suicide is the only only way out (or have been in a place at times that makes it feel that way). I will never be able to fathom the mind set that you must be in when in gets to that point.

From a random Internet guy, there has to be something, maybe buried deep in the back of your mind, that makes you second guess your intentions when you feel like the only way out is suicide. Anything. Focus on that.

We all see how much pain and sorrow people feel when loved ones leave us too early. I'm glad you have stayed around, even if you feel like no one would miss you.

One think I can say is, when those thoughts creep up on you, just think that maybe there is something you are supposed to do before you leave. You'll never know what that is probably but the rest of us will. If it is to open up dialogue so people can talk about this subject openly then maybe you are on the right path. It's a tough subject and perhaps you are supposed to be here so the rest of us can better undertand. Stick around bud.

Can't speak for anyone else, but sometimes you just reach a point where you are like 'There is no other way out (other than suicide).'

I know. I feel like I'm at that point again.

I started working last weekend. I have been driving for Uber. It's not a bad gig. Long Friday and Saturday nights. I made about $150 each night. It would have been more Saturday, but toward the end of the night, I start experiencing car trouble. I decide not to take on any more riders and start heading home.

As I'm driving home, the 'service engine soon' light comes on. The last thing I can afford at this point is to get my car fixed.

It really feels like someone upstairs has decided to just take a dump on my head and enjoy a non-stop laugh at my expense.

I can't make enough money in the next few weeks to avoid eviction. I might have been close if I could have driven for Uber every night and now I can't.

So you tell me: Why wouldn't I think suicide is the only way out?

Because:-

-we live in the era of waxing and thongs for women

not your thing?

-we live in the most gay friendly united states we've ever seen?

not your thing?

-we live in an autistics paradise with permanent connectivity to games or forums like this at rock bottom prices?

not your thing?

-drugs are on their way to being legal, they already are in some states

Yes you might tell me you need money for these things but its amazing how well we can live without a lot of money.

My friend, I think if you're entertaining ending it, there are more things afoot but circumstances like you laid out don't deserve the permanent solution of suicide.

I'm sorry about your spot but it will get better. I have been 60K in the hole before but you just chop wood and do it man.

In the meantime, maybe call the suicide help line? I'm just a bozo in a forum so I would advise to seek some qualified help, and I'm sure they can find low or no cost therapy options. It might help.

Please keep us posted and keep your chin up buddy. It will get better.

 

[eoMMan]

Johnnycakes,

I dont post a whole lot so maybe this will carry a little weight.

It breaks my heart that you think that suicide is the only only way out (or have been in a place at times that makes it feel that way). I will never be able to fathom the mind set that you must be in when in gets to that point.

From a random Internet guy, there has to be something, maybe buried deep in the back of your mind, that makes you second guess your intentions when you feel like the only way out is suicide. Anything. Focus on that.

We all see how much pain and sorrow people feel when loved ones leave us too early. I'm glad you have stayed around, even if you feel like no one would miss you.

One think I can say is, when those thoughts creep up on you, just think that maybe there is something you are supposed to do before you leave. You'll never know what that is probably but the rest of us will. If it is to open up dialogue so people can talk about this subject openly then maybe you are on the right path. It's a tough subject and perhaps you are supposed to be here so the rest of us can better undertand. Stick around bud.

Can't speak for anyone else, but sometimes you just reach a point where you are like 'There is no other way out (other than suicide).'

I know. I feel like I'm at that point again.

I started working last weekend. I have been driving for Uber. It's not a bad gig. Long Friday and Saturday nights. I made about $150 each night. It would have been more Saturday, but toward the end of the night, I start experiencing car trouble. I decide not to take on any more riders and start heading home.

As I'm driving home, the 'service engine soon' light comes on. The last thing I can afford at this point is to get my car fixed.

It really feels like someone upstairs has decided to just take a dump on my head and enjoy a non-stop laugh at my expense.

I can't make enough money in the next few weeks to avoid eviction. I might have been close if I could have driven for Uber every night and now I can't.

So you tell me: Why wouldn't I think suicide is the only way out?

Because:--we live in the era of waxing and thongs for women

not your thing?

-we live in the most gay friendly united states we've ever seen?

not your thing?

-we live in an autistics paradise with permanent connectivity to games or forums like this at rock bottom prices?

not your thing?

-drugs are on their way to being legal, they already are in some states

Yes you might tell me you need money for these things but its amazing how well we can live without a lot of money.

My friend, I think if you're entertaining ending it, there are more things afoot but circumstances like you laid out don't deserve the permanent solution of suicide.

I'm sorry about your spot but it will get better. I have been 60K in the hole before but you just chop wood and do it man.

In the meantime, maybe call the suicide help line? I'm just a bozo in a forum so I would advise to seek some qualified help, and I'm sure they can find low or no cost therapy options. It might help.

Please keep us posted and keep your chin up buddy. It will get better.

Yup, all of this. Keep your head up and keep working.

And, you don't want to hear this, but stay out of the poker room. If money is tight, you shouldn't be playing. I don't care if your stats are great and look like Phil Ivey's in the long term. Don't go there. Based on your postings, I think poker is your biggest obstacle.

Good luck.

 

[CurlyNight]

Thinking and praying for johnnycakes!.. Hope his day goes as well as it can for him today. X

Spurrier: It's apparent to me that your problems go much deeper than the financials and job you mention here. Keep plucking at it. There's always a light at the end of the tunnel even if you don't see it right now. If you feel you need more help, please seek a professional. You may need it to help you over this hump and to help on your quest to get back on your feet. Always take things one moment at a time and be grateful, even if it looks like there is nothing to be grateful for, you are alive. You want to stay that way even if you don't feel it at the moment.

Having been around so many mentally ill people (not saying your are..) and being a guardian to my cousin for the past few years after her multiple attempts at suicide, I can tell you that those who survived it have come to be thankful that it wasn't a success.

I wish you well and try to look at what you have going for you. Everyone has something if not just being alive alone. X

 

[johnnycakes]

Just got back from court... went better than I had hoped. Got a judge with some sense for a change... an old timer with white hair who talked like Mayor Menino. Anyhow, the prosecution called their first witness... a police officer who responded on Christmas Day. She testified for perhaps 20-30 minutes. After that we took a recess and when we came back the judge immediately called the prosecutor and my attorney for a side-bar. It was a long sidebar, after which my attorney summoned me outside.

All charges were getting dropped except one.. and that one was for discharging a firearm within 500' of a building.. a misdemeanor. With respect to that charge, it's continued without a finding. I do probation for 6 months and if I am good for that time, that charge will be automatically dismissed in 6 months, too.

Now to see about getting all the property back they seized.

 

[El Floppo]

Just got back from court... went better than I had hoped. Got a judge with some sense for a change... an old timer with white hair who talked like Mayor Menino. Anyhow, the prosecution called their first witness... a police officer who responded on Christmas Day. She testified for perhaps 20-30 minutes. After that we took a recess and when we came back the judge immediately called the prosecutor and my attorney for a side-bar. It was a long sidebar, after which my attorney summoned me outside.

All charges were getting dropped except one.. and that one was for discharging a firearm within 500' of a building.. a misdemeanor. With respect to that charge, it's continued without a finding. I do probation for 6 months and if I am good for that time, that charge will be automatically dismissed in 6 months, too.

Now to see about getting all the property back they seized.

seized property?

 

[Henry Ford]

Just got back from court... went better than I had hoped. Got a judge with some sense for a change... an old timer with white hair who talked like Mayor Menino. Anyhow, the prosecution called their first witness... a police officer who responded on Christmas Day. She testified for perhaps 20-30 minutes. After that we took a recess and when we came back the judge immediately called the prosecutor and my attorney for a side-bar. It was a long sidebar, after which my attorney summoned me outside.

All charges were getting dropped except one.. and that one was for discharging a firearm within 500' of a building.. a misdemeanor. With respect to that charge, it's continued without a finding. I do probation for 6 months and if I am good for that time, that charge will be automatically dismissed in 6 months, too.

Now to see about getting all the property back they seized.

seized property?

I'm guessing the guns.

 

[johnnycakes]

Just got back from court... went better than I had hoped. Got a judge with some sense for a change... an old timer with white hair who talked like Mayor Menino. Anyhow, the prosecution called their first witness... a police officer who responded on Christmas Day. She testified for perhaps 20-30 minutes. After that we took a recess and when we came back the judge immediately called the prosecutor and my attorney for a side-bar. It was a long sidebar, after which my attorney summoned me outside.

All charges were getting dropped except one.. and that one was for discharging a firearm within 500' of a building.. a misdemeanor. With respect to that charge, it's continued without a finding. I do probation for 6 months and if I am good for that time, that charge will be automatically dismissed in 6 months, too.

Now to see about getting all the property back they seized.

seized property?

I'm guessing the guns.

I can call my local FFL and have them pick up the guns from the PD. They can sell the guns on consignment.

But they also seized a lot more... knives, flashlights, anything that had anything to do with marijuana at all... storage tins, vaporizers, grinders, flower... and I am a physician-certificated MMJ patient... allowed to have everything they took... including the guns when they took them. That said, my attorney said not to push for return of the MMJ itself, which is fine since it's probably all crap now, anyhow, but with respect to everything else (except the guns).... yeah, they shouldn't have taken it in the first place, so I want it back. I really should be entitled to the MMJ as well, but I understand the courts may not quite be up to speed on the implications of legalization, and I won the war, so I'm fine with losing this small battle.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Just got back from court... went better than I had hoped. Got a judge with some sense for a change... an old timer with white hair who talked like Mayor Menino. Anyhow, the prosecution called their first witness... a police officer who responded on Christmas Day. She testified for perhaps 20-30 minutes. After that we took a recess and when we came back the judge immediately called the prosecutor and my attorney for a side-bar. It was a long sidebar, after which my attorney summoned me outside.

All charges were getting dropped except one.. and that one was for discharging a firearm within 500' of a building.. a misdemeanor. With respect to that charge, it's continued without a finding. I do probation for 6 months and if I am good for that time, that charge will be automatically dismissed in 6 months, too.

Now to see about getting all the property back they seized.

seized property?

I'm guessing the guns.

I can call my local FFL and have them pick up the guns from the PD. They can sell the guns on consignment. But they also seized a lot more... knives, flashlights, anything that had anything to do with marijuana at all... storage tins, vaporizers, grinders, flower... and I am a physician-certificated MMJ patient... allowed to have everything they took... including the guns when they took them. That said, my attorney said not to push for return of the MMJ itself, which is fine since it's probably all crap now, anyhow, but with respect to everything else (except the guns).... yeah, they shouldn't have taken it in the first place, so I want it back. I really should be entitled to the MMJ as well, but I understand the courts may not quite be up to speed on the implications of legalization, and I won the war, so I'm fine with losing this small battle.

Yes that is a small loss on a big day. Congrats.

And for you Johnny cakes or for anyone in a place they don't want to be or shouldn't be, I listened to this pretty good podcast with Tim feriss and Anthony Robbins. Apparently he has dealt with suicidal people, and he says he's never lost one. I thought his stuff on priming was interesting and even though, thank god, I'm in a level state of mind, this is interesting for any and all. His words do more justice than mine and the whole thing is worth a listen but the priming stuff is about 20 minutes in

http://youtu.be/xrL_wv218Wk

 

[cstu]

not your thing?

-we live in an autistics paradise with permanent connectivity to games or forums like this at rock bottom prices?

 

[bweiser]

Can't speak for anyone else, but sometimes you just reach a point where you are like 'There is no other way out (other than suicide).'

I know. I feel like I'm at that point again.

I started working last weekend. I have been driving for Uber. It's not a bad gig. Long Friday and Saturday nights. I made about $150 each night. It would have been more Saturday, but toward the end of the night, I start experiencing car trouble. I decide not to take on any more riders and start heading home.

As I'm driving home, the 'service engine soon' light comes on. The last thing I can afford at this point is to get my car fixed.

It really feels like someone upstairs has decided to just take a dump on my head and enjoy a non-stop laugh at my expense.

I can't make enough money in the next few weeks to avoid eviction. I might have been close if I could have driven for Uber every night and now I can't.

So you tell me: Why wouldn't I think suicide is the only way out?

You're not going to be out on the street any time soon.

Depending on where you live it can be a very long process if you choose to fight it.

http://uzohlaw.com/?page_id=118

Also, a check engine light when you have a car with 14k miles on it is no reason to kill yourself. Get it checked out, it's probably something minor.

I probably have less than 10 days before the eviction. I already had the court date.

The judge said the constables usually show up within 10 days of the landlord filing the post-hearing paperwork, which should have happened Monday.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

Is it fair to say that any failed suicide attempt is a "cry for help"? If someone really wanted to kill themselves, they would find a way to be successful.

 

[El Floppo]

Is it fair to say that any failed suicide attempt is a "cry for help"? If someone really wanted to kill themselves, they would find a way to be successful.

 

[Henry Ford]

Is it fair to say that any failed suicide attempt is a "cry for help"? If someone really wanted to kill themselves, they would find a way to be successful.

No, it isn't.

 

[Wooderson]

14,700 miles, do you have a warranty on the car?

Is it less than 3 years since you purchased it?

Good question.

Also you could sell your car and get a cheaper option. If money is tight having a newer car shouldn't be that high on the priority list.

 

[jamny]

I was evicted in my early 20's and spent a few months homeless. I know from rock bottom. There's always a better tomorrow.

 

[johnnycakes]

Is it fair to say that any failed suicide attempt is a "cry for help"? If someone really wanted to kill themselves, they would find a way to be successful.

Absolutely. Not. Fair. To say.

 

[Gawain]

I was evicted in my early 20's and spent a few months homeless. I know from rock bottom. There's always a better tomorrow.

Would you be willing to go into more detail about what day-to-day life is like when you are homeless?

I see so many folks sleeping on the sidewalk everyday. I wish there was some way to help, but I don't want to just give money that's going to get used for drugs.

 

[jamny]

I was evicted in my early 20's and spent a few months homeless. I know from rock bottom. There's always a better tomorrow.

Would you be willing to go into more detail about what day-to-day life is like when you are homeless?

I see so many folks sleeping on the sidewalk everyday. I wish there was some way to help, but I don't want to just give money that's going to get used for drugs.

I was homeless in that I had no place to live but thankfully I never had to resort to begging for money. I made some money doing odd jobs around the neighborhood. I was a plumbers helper for a while and would help some friends on side jobs and another friend would customize cars and I'd get a few bucks helping him. I'd sleep in the park or in vans that a couple of friends had when the weather sucked. I was too stubborn to ask a friend for a place to stay until one friends mother insisted I come in once the winter started to hit. I slept on the floor in his room for a couple of months until I got my #### together.

I was into smoking weed and a few other things recreationally but thankfully never got hooked on any hard drugs. That would not have been a good addition to my situation.

 

[Keith R]

Is it fair to say that any failed suicide attempt is a "cry for help"? If someone really wanted to kill themselves, they would find a way to be successful.

Absolutely. Not. Fair. To say.

"Fake" suicide attempts do exist but you can absolutely not assume that a failed attempt is one of these.

 

[chet]

bweiser--there are smart people on this site who can help you figure things out

post more specific details of your situation and let's get you back on track

 

[NREC34]

14,700 miles, do you have a warranty on the car?

Is it less than 3 years since you purchased it?

Good question. Also you could sell your car and get a cheaper option. If money is tight having a newer car shouldn't be that high on the priority list.

I thought you had to have a newer car to work for Uber.

 

[Steve Tasker]

I was evicted in my early 20's and spent a few months homeless. I know from rock bottom. There's always a better tomorrow.

Would you be willing to go into more detail about what day-to-day life is like when you are homeless?

I see so many folks sleeping on the sidewalk everyday. I wish there was some way to help, but I don't want to just give money that's going to get used for drugs.

Homelessness and the working poor are one of the "causes" that I try to support as much as possible. My favorite local organization where I volunteer and donate money is a non-profit that serves a free warm dinner 365 days a year, no questions asked. Anyone who walks in the door between the hours of like 5-7:30 PM is served a free dinner. They give away clothing - depending on what they have - to anyone who needs it. They also provide some services on different days of the week, planned parenthood, optometry, podiatry, housing assistance, etc. They also serve a bagged lunch several days a week out of a different location. Some of the patrons are homeless, some are the working poor, some are mentally handicapped, etc. It's a great organization and one that I am proud to be a part of.

I am sure you have organizations like this where you live. It might take a little digging but you can find something. No one organization is going to eradicate homelessness, but you can do a lot of good by helping out the right organizations.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Tasker just wanted to say you seem like a great dude consistently throughout your posts. I hope our paths can cross for a beer some day.