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Sunday Ticket '23: YouTube TV signs deal. Stand alone option available (3 Viewers)

My worry about Sunday ticket going to a streaming service is the ease of switching back and forth between games. As far as I know you have to "back" out of the current show to get back to the list of shows to then find the game you will want to switch to and then select that game to go to.

Right now I know the channel number of the few games I have interest in and can go back and forth immediately without missing too much. I also have two TV's set up so I can go back and forth on both of them to hit the games I want to see. The NFL has so many stoppages the ability to easily scroll from game to game is necessary. I am not sure how that will go with a streaming service (unless I am missing something)
 
My worry about Sunday ticket going to a streaming service is the ease of switching back and forth between games. As far as I know you have to "back" out of the current show to get back to the list of shows to then find the game you will want to switch to and then select that game to go to.

Right now I know the channel number of the few games I have interest in and can go back and forth immediately without missing too much. I also have two TV's set up so I can go back and forth on both of them to hit the games I want to see. The NFL has so many stoppages the ability to easily scroll from game to game is necessary. I am not sure how that will go with a streaming service (unless I am missing something)
So much this. Amazon couldn't be any easier for me to watch, it literally what 30 seconds to launch the app and "select the game".... But first stoppage, I go to change the channel and gpp closes because I forget so I go back.

I'm down to just having it on my phone now here and there. I'm too "lazy/annoyed" to switch my viewing habits of game surfing in a matter of a second and taking advantage of my projector /surround sound
 
My worry about Sunday ticket going to a streaming service is the ease of switching back and forth between games. As far as I know you have to "back" out of the current show to get back to the list of shows to then find the game you will want to switch to and then select that game to go to.

Right now I know the channel number of the few games I have interest in and can go back and forth immediately without missing too much. I also have two TV's set up so I can go back and forth on both of them to hit the games I want to see. The NFL has so many stoppages the ability to easily scroll from game to game is necessary. I am not sure how that will go with a streaming service (unless I am missing something)

I think this will be ok. Even streaming the NFL Sunday ticket I found I could switch between games as quickly as using my set top DTV box.

Also for those worried about the game mix with streaming this has always been available when streaming the Sunday ticket and one might argue it's even better because it's customizable. Of course there is always a chance that for reasons I could not come up with that Youtube does not offer this feature. If they did not offer it I'd probably do away with it and I've had it for 23 years.

I don't watch Youtube TV so maybe this exists and I don't know about but I can't stress enough how critical the 30 second FF button is to me and it's easily my biggest gripe with Amazon. For what they are paying they may not want to make it easier to skip the adds.
 
My worry about Sunday ticket going to a streaming service is the ease of switching back and forth between games. As far as I know you have to "back" out of the current show to get back to the list of shows to then find the game you will want to switch to and then select that game to go to.

Right now I know the channel number of the few games I have interest in and can go back and forth immediately without missing too much. I also have two TV's set up so I can go back and forth on both of them to hit the games I want to see. The NFL has so many stoppages the ability to easily scroll from game to game is necessary. I am not sure how that will go with a streaming service (unless I am missing something)
currently the youtubetv live tv app has a bar at the bottom of the screen that lets you scroll through the other channels and then select them. It also puts the most recent channels viewed at the beginning of that list and you can probably make your favorites be first always. hopefully it would be the same thing. nba league pass games are broadcast via a separate channel for each team, so it seamlessly fits in. much better than Amazon.
 
For a number of reasons I don't see us getting rid of DTV now but starting to look at the option of perhaps getting YouTubeTV + Sunday Ticket addon for the NFL season. Won't like the cost but it is what it is. For those familiar with YouTube TV I have a question. Their site mentions supporting up to 3 streams at once. Is that the limit it will support in a household? We have 4 TVs and at times I sit outside viewing the game on my iPad. We could make it work if its 3 max as an additional option to our main viewing platform but could never use it for our main source if its really a max of 3.
It looks like they have a "4k Plus" package for an additional $20 per month that allows unlimited streams.

I was kind of bummed when I read the limit of 3, as well.
the way it currently works is that you can share with up to 6 family members. Certain add-on channels, like redzone, can only be streamed on 3 devices at a time, i believe, but otherwise, all 6 family members can use the service at the same time.
 
My worry about Sunday ticket going to a streaming service is the ease of switching back and forth between games. As far as I know you have to "back" out of the current show to get back to the list of shows to then find the game you will want to switch to and then select that game to go to.

Right now I know the channel number of the few games I have interest in and can go back and forth immediately without missing too much. I also have two TV's set up so I can go back and forth on both of them to hit the games I want to see. The NFL has so many stoppages the ability to easily scroll from game to game is necessary. I am not sure how that will go with a streaming service (unless I am missing something)

I think this will be ok. Even streaming the NFL Sunday ticket I found I could switch between games as quickly as using my set top DTV box.

Also for those worried about the game mix with streaming this has always been available when streaming the Sunday ticket and one might argue it's even better because it's customizable. Of course there is always a chance that for reasons I could not come up with that Youtube does not offer this feature. If they did not offer it I'd probably do away with it and I've had it for 23 years.

I don't watch Youtube TV so maybe this exists and I don't know about but I can't stress enough how critical the 30 second FF button is to me and it's easily my biggest gripe with Amazon. For what they are paying they may not want to make it easier to skip the adds.
it exists. you can pause live tv, though whether that will definitely carry over to the sunday ticket is hard to say.
 
The other annoying feature will be the remote aspect. SInce I have two TV's side by side connected to different DirecTV boxes I have a toggle remote so it doesn't work both boxes at the same time.

However, with the TV's if it's on a streaming service on the smart TV the single remote affects both TV's at the same time. I am not sure if there is a way around that. Very annoying.
 
Gamepass International has had the Ticket beat my a mile for years now. Hopefully that platform won't be affected.
 
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Curious to see pricing. Right now I go to a sports bar to watch games because I don't want to spend $80/month for 12 months for the privilege of buying Sunday Ticket.
 
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Curious to see pricing. Right now I go to a sports bar to watch games because I don't want to spend $80/month for 12 months for the privilege of buying Sunday Ticket.
Goodell promised Fox and CBS that it will stay expensive in order to not intrude on them.
 
I know this won't happen, but it would be nice if there was an option that just gave you local channels and ST and dispensed with all the other stuff. I don't want CNN, ESPN, Discovery, or any other channel. Just football. I feel like I'm going to end up ditching DTV and replacing it with the exact same product only online instead of over-the-air.

From ESPN article:
Starting next season, "Sunday Ticket" will be available as an add-on package on YouTube TV and standalone à la carte on YouTube Primetime Channels.

This means you should be able to just purchase Sunday Ticket by itself and throw up an antennae for local channels.
 
Red Zone hurts Sunday Ticket sales.

You get a taste of that sweet sweet Red Zone heroin, it's tough to go back to cold turkey 🦃 of one game at a time.

Exactly. I make fun of my kids for being obsessed with TikTok but NFL Redzone is the football version of it.
Best analogy I've heard is that it's the football equivalent of porn. Doesn't waste time on set-up and character development, just goes straight to the good stuff.

(I won't extend the analogy any further because I'm not looking to get banned.)
Let’s just stick with the TikTok analogy ;)
 
I`m already streaming NFL games every weekend , there are streams all over the internet, my buddies son seems to know a new one when the old one is shut down
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well. I doubt I'd be able to get this with YouTube.
 
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Curious to see pricing. Right now I go to a sports bar to watch games because I don't want to spend $80/month for 12 months for the privilege of buying Sunday Ticket.
Goodell promised Fox and CBS that it will stay expensive in order to not intrude on them.
oh, for me it's not a matter of Sunday Ticket vs Fox/CBS, it's a matter of Sunday Ticket vs a couple beers and maybe chicken wings 10-15 times a season.
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well.
get a firestick or roku. They cost like $30.
 
Goodell promised Fox and CBS that it will stay expensive in order to not intrude on them.
This is irrlevant. Fox and CBS local stations are the only place you can watch those games. The Sunday Ticket channel is blacked out to force you to watch your local network if that game is on the local network. Fox & CBS still get theirs. Plus the ticket channel still shows the Fox/CBS feeds with the advertising. I don't see how this changes anything for them.
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well. I doubt I'd be able to get this with YouTube.
i've tried most (all?) of the streaming cable services and youtubetv is definitely the best interface. On a roku tv, it works just about as well as regular cable.
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well. I doubt I'd be able to get this with YouTube.
i've tried most (all?) of the streaming cable services and youtubetv is definitely the best interface. On a roku tv, it works just about as well as regular cable.

Yup this has been my experience too. It's fantastic. The only thing they don't do that DTV does is channel numbers/remote, so if that type of use is what someone wants then streaming doesn't do that.
 
The more I am reading about YTTV, the more excited I am getting for this change. I was a bit bummed to read I'd have to shell out the extra $20 per month for the premium YTTV package (3 devices/streams will not work on Sundays), but I think that puts the total at $85, and I'm currently paying almost twice that for DTV with 4 receivers, not including Sunday Ticket charges. I kind of assume YT Sunday ticket package price will be similar, so I'm not really factoring that in.

My biggest concern right now is bandwidth. Can my internet handle it if I am streaming 3-4 games on Sunday and my wife/kids are trying to watch something on 1-3 other TVs.
 
So for no one that has a streaming device what's the easiest way to hook this up to my home entertainment unit
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well.
get a firestick or roku. They cost like $30.
How do I plug this into my surround system? Just use it as HDMI in? My old fire stick was awful and I have great internet
 
My main hesitation is that I need to keep Xfinity for my cable internet and land line (almost zero cel coverage at my house), and that’s around $110 without TV, believe it or not. Plus I get HBO and Showtime with my cable package, so don’t have to pay extra for those now. If I go YouTube TV, I’ll need to tack on HBO and occasionally Showtime, and the price looks pretty much the same.

Totally on the fence…
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well. I doubt I'd be able to get this with YouTube.
The new TVs have a direct to Youtube button on many of the remotes, I'm plugged in thru cable like you are wanting.
Maybe I'm missing something but I think you just need a TV that has easy to hit buttons and you'll be fine once you are on Youtube.

I have similar concerns as you, prefer my football be coming thru the local CBS/FOX affiliate and then RZ, ESPN, NBC, yada yada yada
But I like Youtube and watch it a lot, outside of NFL I don't really watch much TV
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well.
get a firestick or roku. They cost like $30.
How do I plug this into my surround system? Just use it as HDMI in? My old fire stick was awful and I have great internet
Depends on your system.

My TV has an optical output to my soundbar, so it's pretty simple.
 
Personally, I'm ostensibly a Bears fan, and maybe feel different if they were as good as the 1985 team, but right now I am 100% committed to NFL Redzone that I watch on Youtube TV, so I'm just hoping that the price/presentation for that doesn't change.

I don't think I've watched a single non-playoff game on a Sunday in like 15 years.

ETA: I've been paying 69.99 a month for Youtube TV + Redzone for a few years now.
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well.
get a firestick or roku. They cost like $30.
How do I plug this into my surround system? Just use it as HDMI in? My old fire stick was awful and I have great internet
Depends on your system.

My TV has an optical output to my soundbar, so it's pretty simple.
I have a big 7.2.2 system with projector. It needs to feed into receiver since projector is no where near it
 
Red Zone hurts Sunday Ticket sales.

You get a taste of that sweet sweet Red Zone heroin, it's tough to go back to cold turkey 🦃 of one game at a time.

Exactly. I make fun of my kids for being obsessed with TikTok but NFL Redzone is the football version of it.
Best analogy I've heard is that it's the football equivalent of porn. Doesn't waste time on set-up and character development, just goes straight to the good stuff.

(I won't extend the analogy any further because I'm not looking to get banned.)
That was deep.
 
Might be worth wiring ethernet to your system between now and then. Somewhat locks in performance. I'm in a house that has a ton of devices on the network. I mean dozens. I'd worry about wifi performance.

I'm a DTV old timer. Get it free every year, have for 15 years. I like what it is, but I'm an older guy now and don't like change as much. I'd bet this winds up being a net benefit though. Going digital like this should allow for a ton of feature building. I hope they invest in that.
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well.
get a firestick or roku. They cost like $30.
How do I plug this into my surround system? Just use it as HDMI in? My old fire stick was awful and I have great internet
Depends on your system.

My TV has an optical output to my soundbar, so it's pretty simple.
I have a big 7.2.2 system with projector. It needs to feed into receiver since projector is no where near it

Yes just plug it into one of your HDMI spots on your AVR. Did you set up this system or have someone else do it for you?
 
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Curious to see pricing. Right now I go to a sports bar to watch games because I don't want to spend $80/month for 12 months for the privilege of buying Sunday Ticket.
Goodell promised Fox and CBS that it will stay expensive in order to not intrude on them.
oh, for me it's not a matter of Sunday Ticket vs Fox/CBS, it's a matter of Sunday Ticket vs a couple beers and maybe chicken wings 10-15 times a season.

Same (except I generally get a nice calzone or French dip sandwich).

PFT says that the price probably won't go down (i.e. still about $300 per season) and speculated that there would be a sports bar (and perhaps more importantly live sports book) carve out where that is basically a sublet to direct TV (which already is being done with the Amazon Thursday games).

Hope that is the case as I would just as soon pay the same $300 and get fed a dozen times a year and watch all the games sitting at the bar

-QG
 
reading some comments in this thread tells me why this is such an important deal for Google (youtube). There is still a very large segment of the market that has not jumped to streaming - a market already dominated by Netflix and Amazon, plus a host of other content providers (Apple, Hulu, Paramount+, etc). Youtube TV is (I think) a relatively small player, so something like this gets Google back in the game.

For those amongst us not streaming, you basically have 9 months to figure it out.

Personally, I jumped ship when DirecTV offered a streaming service maybe 5 or 6 years ago. It was a huge reduction in cost - like $80 -> $20, but the cost kept creeping up and up. The only difference was getting content via ethernet vs a dish. Anyways, we dropped that when the costs got to ~$50 and moved to stream only since. TV viewing is a different experience. You don't flip through the channels looking for something good, instead, you flip through a library looking for a show to binge-watch. (also, no cable news which is a net benefit).

When we first did this, I got up in my attic and hooked up a large digital TV antenna. This gives me all the local over-the-air broadcasts - ABC, CBS, NBC, FXO, PBS, etc. That's all free, and never hiccups. That is how I watch live sports - and I go to a sports bar if I want to watch something not broadcast.

There can be hiccups. Buffering, where the action pauses for a second before connecting again, is not a big deal while watching a movie but makes live sports unwatchable. Therefore, it is important you have (1) a good internet connection (2) good connection to your TV. For the second, ethernet directly to the TV is best. There is an ethernet adapter available for Firestick and I assume for Roku as well. If you can't get ethernet, I have been super impressed with my Eero mesh wifi router. One other thing I do to take it a step further is dedicating my 5ghz bandwidth to TV's only - everyone in my house can use 2.4GHz for personal use, but the TV's are on 5GHz. Not sure if it makes a difference but there is less crowding on that spectrum and therefore less likely for hiccups.

My kids will have grown up never having cable - not ever having that experience of flipping from channel to channel. It's weird, but I'm ok with it. This is the wave of the future,
 
I switched to YTTV with red zone for this season and have been pleased. Not sure how internet will handle 4 games simultaneously but willing to find out.
 
People out here acting like everyone didn't hate Direct TV.

If you knew the story of my family and DirecTV, you'd know how much I hate it. But as it stands, if you can suffer their service, DirecTV is putting out a decent football product at a reasonable rate. It's really the change I fear and the pricing of the change. Any way these guys can extract money, they will. That makes me nervous.

I still think we see all and only a la carte games at one point, because there's more green in it.
 
reading some comments in this thread tells me why this is such an important deal for Google (youtube). There is still a very large segment of the market that has not jumped to streaming - a market already dominated by Netflix and Amazon, plus a host of other content providers (Apple, Hulu, Paramount+, etc). Youtube TV is (I think) a relatively small player, so something like this gets Google back in the game.

For those amongst us not streaming, you basically have 9 months to figure it out.

Personally, I jumped ship when DirecTV offered a streaming service maybe 5 or 6 years ago. It was a huge reduction in cost - like $80 -> $20, but the cost kept creeping up and up. The only difference was getting content via ethernet vs a dish. Anyways, we dropped that when the costs got to ~$50 and moved to stream only since. TV viewing is a different experience. You don't flip through the channels looking for something good, instead, you flip through a library looking for a show to binge-watch. (also, no cable news which is a net benefit).

When we first did this, I got up in my attic and hooked up a large digital TV antenna. This gives me all the local over-the-air broadcasts - ABC, CBS, NBC, FXO, PBS, etc. That's all free, and never hiccups. That is how I watch live sports - and I go to a sports bar if I want to watch something not broadcast.

There can be hiccups. Buffering, where the action pauses for a second before connecting again, is not a big deal while watching a movie but makes live sports unwatchable. Therefore, it is important you have (1) a good internet connection (2) good connection to your TV. For the second, ethernet directly to the TV is best. There is an ethernet adapter available for Firestick and I assume for Roku as well. If you can't get ethernet, I have been super impressed with my Eero mesh wifi router. One other thing I do to take it a step further is dedicating my 5ghz bandwidth to TV's only - everyone in my house can use 2.4GHz for personal use, but the TV's are on 5GHz. Not sure if it makes a difference but there is less crowding on that spectrum and therefore less likely for hiccups.

My kids will have grown up never having cable - not ever having that experience of flipping from channel to channel. It's weird, but I'm ok with it. This is the wave of the future,
I will have Xfinity until I move.... But they do have all the streaming apps on their box like a fire stick....not yttv though just YouTube.....yet.

It's all I've ever had.

My orbi rocks 1gigabit but no smart tvs

Get of my lawn ;)
 
People out here acting like everyone didn't hate Direct TV.

If you knew the story of my family and DirecTV, you'd know how much I hate it. But as it stands, if you can suffer their service, DirecTV is putting out a decent football product at a reasonable rate. It's really the change I fear and the pricing of the change. Any way these guys can extract money, they will. That makes me nervous.

I still think we see all and only a la carte games at one point, because there's more green in it.

No it's garbage. Fight those guys. They are the enemy
 
After 23 years for me can't help but recognize today being the last day for the Sunday ticket as we know it. Hope things go smoothly next year, never had a regret with how DirectV ran things.
 
I hate everything streaming. I don't care what anyone says, it simply doesn't work as well as turning on a TV hooked up to cable/satellite. I really doubt that YouTube will have all the functionality and ease of use of DirecTV.

Every Sunday I watch one game each on two TV's and four at once on my laptop (one of which is RZ). Yes the laptop games are streamed and no it doesn't function as well.
get a firestick or roku. They cost like $30.
How do I plug this into my surround system? Just use it as HDMI in? My old fire stick was awful and I have great internet
Depends on your system.

My TV has an optical output to my soundbar, so it's pretty simple.
I have a big 7.2.2 system with projector. It needs to feed into receiver since projector is no where near it

Yes just plug it into one of your HDMI spots on your AVR. Did you set up this system or have someone else do it for you?
Better late than never but I set it up.

The reason for the bump is to let everyone know I'm a moron. :)

Playing my PS5 last night and realizing I'm pretty sure there is a YTTV app for it and check there is. And bonus if I do get it I can run split screen and put regular TV or RedZone on half. I can't flip sound easily but whatever lol. Never had DirecTV but I don't do fantasy anymore. Just mainly a little gambling here and there. I just want it for all Steelers games since I don't live in the area.

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I just cut the DirecTv cord after 20+ years. It feels good. Actually, it feels better than good. It seems silly, but I feel liberated from something I was forcefully tied to for so many years, as an out of market fan of the Bills.

The family, and I have been happy with our trial of YouTubeTV for the past few weeks, so I made the cancellation just now.
 
https://deadline.com/2023/02/nfl-sunday-ticket-youtube-new-features-2023-directv-1235248264/
“On YouTube TV, we’re building the ability for subscribers to, for example, watch multiple screens at once and on YouTube [connected TV] we’ll be adding new features specific to the Sunday Ticket experience, like comments, chats, polls, and so on,” he said. “On the creator side, imagine all the creative ways they can create with exclusive NFL content, behind-the-scenes event access and so on. We’re really excited to see what they will do across long-form, short form, livestreams and more.”
i hope i'm wrong, but all i see is more ads to the left more ads to the right less screen for the game more stuff to the viewer that's not the game. as much as the hate for directv is warranted for many, we may miss the old Sunday ticket. the only change i am hoping for is multiple games on screen that i can choose.
 
https://deadline.com/2023/02/nfl-sunday-ticket-youtube-new-features-2023-directv-1235248264/
“On YouTube TV, we’re building the ability for subscribers to, for example, watch multiple screens at once and on YouTube [connected TV] we’ll be adding new features specific to the Sunday Ticket experience, like comments, chats, polls, and so on,” he said. “On the creator side, imagine all the creative ways they can create with exclusive NFL content, behind-the-scenes event access and so on. We’re really excited to see what they will do across long-form, short form, livestreams and more.”
i hope i'm wrong, but all i see is more ads to the left more ads to the right less screen for the game more stuff to the viewer that's not the game. as much as the hate for directv is warranted for many, we may miss the old Sunday ticket. the only change i am hoping for is multiple games on screen that i can choose.
If need be, you'll be able to buy out of those ad, fwiw, I imagine.
 
black dot. All my TVs are using a roku device (either built in or connected on). Makes it easy on the missus. have never used youtubeTV so I have no idea what it actually does. (likely good for them bc if it is easy I'll subscribe)
 
black dot. All my TVs are using a roku device (either built in or connected on). Makes it easy on the missus. have never used youtubeTV so I have no idea what it actually does. (likely good for them bc if it is easy I'll subscribe)
FWIW, I've found YouTubeTV to be WAY more user friendly than Roku. (I have no experience with any of the other services.)
 

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