Ministry of Pain
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***Super Bowl LVIII - San Francisco 49'ers 14-5 vs Kansas City Chiefs 14-6*** (+2, 47.5) Chiefs are World Champions 25-22 in Overtime (1 Viewer)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'll be happy to take the Chiefs +anything whether it's SF or Detroit
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I thought it might be cute putting the Detroit Lions in hre early, glad I didn't do that
Inability to kick 45-yd FGs to extend from a 2 score 4 score game has cost Detroit as they now face just a 1 score lead heading into the 4th Q, still loads of time left for SF
Inability to kick 45-yd FGs to extend from a 2 score 4 score game has cost Detroit as they now face just a 1 score lead heading into the 4th Q, still loads of time left for SF
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Congrats SF fighting back from 24-7 at the Half
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Put the house on KC.
Shanahan will never get past his SB demons.
Shanahan will never get past his SB demons.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Agreed. No chance.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Any existing odds out there for a post-KC win Kelce proposal?
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Already has been sliced a bit to -1.5
DK is at 49/u but everyone else is holding at 47.5 right now
Wingnut
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
It’s not even close either. Never has there been such a gift to SB bettors.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
There's a lot more in game matches than just HC and QB
I wouldn't just put all my chips on those 2 spots
Wingnut
Footballguy
Based on DVOA, the Chiefs had their two best single games of the year in the last two weeks. The wild-card win was their fifth best.
Can they keep it going? We will see.
Can they keep it going? We will see.
Yogibear
Footballguy
Yeah, but the last time these two teams played in the Super Bowl, the 49ers didn't have Christian McCaffrey. He's definitely the front-runner for Offensive Player of the Year. I think he's definitely going to get 100 yards, and he'll be the reason the result will be different than 4 years ago.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I am leaning Chiefs obviously. The 49ers defense has looked like trash for a good percentage of the playoffs so far against teams QB'd by Jordan Love and Jarred Goff, two good QBs for sure, but Patrick Mahomes is a whole different animal. Pacheco and his physical style of running should be able to gash all kinds of holes in that leaky 49ers run defense.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
@ChiefD vs @fantasycurse42 
My money is on the Kingpin of this but FC42, I wish you luck
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You both have a full 2 weeks to convince us all of why your team is going to lose in the Super Bowl
My money is on the Kingpin of this but FC42, I wish you luck
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You both have a full 2 weeks to convince us all of why your team is going to lose in the Super Bowl
Scoresman
Footballguy
Based on DVOA, the Ravens were the third best team of all time behind the 91 Redskins and 07 patriots and look where that got them.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Of course but HC and QB are probably the most important in game matchups.
Yogibear
Footballguy
I said it earlier, and I'll say it again: the 49ers didn't have CMC last time they played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. I think he's going to get at least 100 yards against the Chiefs' run defense. I believe their run defense was in the bottom half of the league this year. I definitely have CMC as the front-runner for Super Bowl MVP.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I watched the Niners blow out a lot of teams along the way this season including taking the Eagles' lunch money that they never recovered from
Don't give me this impossibility that they can't win the Super Bowl, they're battle tested just like the Chiefs, this might be the best Super Bowl ever
And I'm not saying you give the Niners little chance but I am saying this game does not have a clear favorite yet IMHO
Let's get this party started
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Football Jones
Footballguy
At this point, you've got to say KC has the best D in the league.
Spagnuolo is the MVC. They have good talent & Spags makes it tough on opposing offenses.
Spagnuolo is the MVC. They have good talent & Spags makes it tough on opposing offenses.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Haven’t rooted for San Fran since the franchise chased away Joe Cool. But I will once more two weeks from now.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I’m just saying I see QB and Head Coach as two most important things going into a game like this.I watched the Niners blow out a lot of teams along the way this season including taking the Eagles' lunch money that they never recovered from
Don't give me this impossibility that they can't win the Super Bowl, they're battle tested just like the Chiefs, this might be the best Super Bowl ever
And I'm not saying you give the Niners little chance but I am saying this game does not have a clear favorite yet IMHO
Let's get this party started
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Shanahan has to prove he can do something other than choke or make boneheaded decisions in situations like this vs a proven great HC in Reid who seems to be doing it again with his team peaking at just the right time.
Then you have the experienced Mahomes vs first time Super Bowl QB Purdy. Again, advantage KC.
Sure anything can happen, but those are two clear advantages to KC at this point, IMO.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
* If you hate both teams, take solace in the fact that one will get agonizingly close to a championship, but fall short. Then you get to watch them look sad in the post-game presser. When you're feeling annoyed...schadenfreude!!
* 49ers haven't won a title in decades. They have a lot on the line.
* KC is...not in the same boat. They're used to being there. But if Mahomes wants to someday be considered the GOAT, a loss puts him at 2-2 in the biggest game, compared to an astounding 7-3 for Brady, and 4-0 for Montana. I understand these are just different levels of amazing, but I'm sure it's on his mind. To be the greatest, you have to come up big when the stakes are highest.
I don't like either team...but I don't hate either of them, either. So maybe I root for Purdy. But if I was a gambler (I'm not) I think I'd go with KC. The moment definitely won't be too big for them.
* 49ers haven't won a title in decades. They have a lot on the line.
* KC is...not in the same boat. They're used to being there. But if Mahomes wants to someday be considered the GOAT, a loss puts him at 2-2 in the biggest game, compared to an astounding 7-3 for Brady, and 4-0 for Montana. I understand these are just different levels of amazing, but I'm sure it's on his mind. To be the greatest, you have to come up big when the stakes are highest.
I don't like either team...but I don't hate either of them, either. So maybe I root for Purdy. But if I was a gambler (I'm not) I think I'd go with KC. The moment definitely won't be too big for them.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I’m just saying I see QB and Head Coach as two most important things going into a game like this.I watched the Niners blow out a lot of teams along the way this season including taking the Eagles' lunch money that they never recovered from
Don't give me this impossibility that they can't win the Super Bowl, they're battle tested just like the Chiefs, this might be the best Super Bowl ever
And I'm not saying you give the Niners little chance but I am saying this game does not have a clear favorite yet IMHO
Let's get this party started
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Shanahan has to prove he can do something other than choke or make boneheaded decisions in situations like this vs a proven great HC in Reid who seems to be doing it again with his team peaking at just the right time.
Then you have the experienced Mahomes vs first time Super Bowl QB Purdy. Again, advantage KC.
Sure anything can happen, but those are two clear advantages to KC at this point, IMO.
need2know
Footballguy
Appreciate the effort but I hate both so much. I wish the game wasn't even played. Can they tie? Can they both be destroyed? I can barely watch this. Kill me now
TampaMike19
Footballguy
SF shouldn’t be favored over KC. KC has been here time and time again and Purdy still hasn’t proven that he can take over a game like Mahomes can. Also, Andy Reid is on another level right now. He will study this Lions tape. Also, these DBs the Chiefs have are out of this world. If they shut Aiyuk down, which they probably should, who else is going to win down the field in the X capacity? CMC is going to need 35 touches to win this game.
Also, KC went on the road in the playoffs to beat Buffalo and Baltimore? Two of the toughest places to play and better teams in the league? They are locked in for a repeat.
I’ll tell you one thing- KC will not let what the packers and lions did - let the 49ers back in the game if they are down.
Also, KC went on the road in the playoffs to beat Buffalo and Baltimore? Two of the toughest places to play and better teams in the league? They are locked in for a repeat.
I’ll tell you one thing- KC will not let what the packers and lions did - let the 49ers back in the game if they are down.
GoBirds
Footballguy
He’s such a tool. His brother inherited all the likable qualities apparently.
Wingnut
Footballguy
This was me last season. Didn't watch a second of the Super Bowl and had a great day, I'm sure youll find something fun to do.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Unless Rocky is going to show up in Vegas, she is like Ivan Drago:
She cannot be defeated!
ChiefD
Footballguy
Agree. They are terrible people.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Nah. You know and I know the Niners are the better team on paper and all around.
They are just so explosive and to be honest the Chiefs offense is still crap. It's been a fairy tail run for the Chiefs up until now but the niners are better this time and will have that revenge factor. I love my Chiefs and am happy to be here but the niners look primed to take it.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Here you go again lol. But so far your reverse jinx results have been very good.
need2know
Footballguy
Flawless. He is the master of the reverse jinx
Scoresman
Footballguy
Any Chiefs fans care to comment on how the Chiefs turned it around? All year, they were the definition of a lackluster team, and then seemingly turned it all around for the playoffs. Was this playoff resurgence expected? Did they have people injured who came back for the playoffs, or was this just a case of a veteran team figuring it out at the right time?
-OZ-
Footballguy
Does anyone else find they just don’t care about the SB now?
I liked the chiefs plenty when we lived in Kansas but it’s getting a bit tiresome seeing them in it again. Good for them I guess, Reid and Mahomes get to enhance their arguments for being GOAT 2.0.
SF is a well put together team and it’s great to see any team succeed by emphasizing positions other than QB.
But as my podcast feed fills, I find myself skipping anything football because I just don’t care about this game now.
We’ll still have a party and all that, but the draft is the next thing to get excited about.
“Tony Romo” / SNL nailed it.
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I liked the chiefs plenty when we lived in Kansas but it’s getting a bit tiresome seeing them in it again. Good for them I guess, Reid and Mahomes get to enhance their arguments for being GOAT 2.0.
SF is a well put together team and it’s great to see any team succeed by emphasizing positions other than QB.
But as my podcast feed fills, I find myself skipping anything football because I just don’t care about this game now.
We’ll still have a party and all that, but the draft is the next thing to get excited about.
“Tony Romo” / SNL nailed it.
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Chiefs were kind of a cool team when Mahomes was humble and Kelce was just another guy who Mahomes threw the ball to.
GO NINERS!
No kidding.
To be fair, they didn't really chase him away. They had to make a decision between a great QB coming off an injury or the younger guy who was having an MVP type season in his place. They decided to move forward with Young, which ultimately was the right decision, although not an easy one for obvious reasons.
ChiefD
Footballguy
The defense has been pretty healthy all year long, so what we are seeing there is not new. They have carried this team all season.
As I mentioned upthread, the offense is a turd. They have looked good in spurts this postseason but they are not fixed. The main thing there is they have not turned the ball over. And Mahomes is willing to play for the punt because he knows the defense is solid. He has admitted this in interviews over the past few weeks.
And Reid is calling things ultra conservative right now. So him realizing he doesn't have playmakers has helped. But I will wanna see him play into that more. Call more play action. More slants and crossing patterns. More delayed screens and such. And then go for the home run downfield when it's there.
If he does THAT, the Chiefs are dangerous. But they simply cannot turtle up in the second half and expect the Niners to not move the ball. Shanahan is way too accomplished and in tune with his offense to let that happen.
I think at the end of the day in two weeks the Niners win because the Chiefs offense simply couldn't score when they needed to.
