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Superman/Batman Movie... (2 Viewers)
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Dexter
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You don't have to follow the Marvel plan. Hell I think the Marvel plan was risky and could have bombed easy. If I'm DC I do the opposition. Have a large Justice league movie and see what characters the public gravitates too, We all know Batman and Superman will be at the top of the list, butIf the JL movie is any good people might be willing to give characters like Hawkman and Green lantern a chance if they have kick ### roles. Then you make movies starring those characters.
B-Deep
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Officer Pete Malloy said:
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Make a Kraven's Last Hunt movie or GTFO.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Agreed. Make the Batman/Superman thing or JL last. Years from now. So people are excited for a Batman reboot/return. We just had a lot of Batman, why not flesh out Superman further, introduce Flash, Wonderwoman, and maybe redo Green Lantern better altogether and use the black version. I do think they need to do backstory on these characters and set up the reason for JL. Introduce Lex Luthor into the next Superman, have some cross-over with the films. Do Superman/Batman after Superman2 and the introduction films, and then follow that up with JL. Hell, film SM/BM and JL at the same time for things and release them back-to-back summers.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
NCCommish
Footballguy
This is where Marvel has been smart with Iron Man. Iron Man is their Batman and they have kept the character in play and kept the same guy to play him through out at least this part of the film cycle. They have him locked up until at least Avengers 3 IIRC. Of course they had to back up the armored truck to do it but so what, they are raking it in.
Notorious T.R.E.
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What's better, the guy with unlimited performance capabilities or the guy with unlimited funds to build complex sybians?Probably a girl. It always is.Why would Batman and Superman be fighting?
NCCommish
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
The JGL Batman isn't Bruce Wayne, so he isn't the super genius trained ninja warrior that could take on Superman. So the whole Dark Knight series is just forgotten it seems, and doing so this soon after it wrapped up just doesn't feel right.
They really would #### the bed IMO if they're doing a total Batman reboot within a single movie that doesn't focus so much on Batman, especially this soon. This is why they need a slow re-introduction of Bruce Wayne, Wayne Corp., and Batman over the course of a few movies (if they aren't going to do a new stand-alone Batman with an entire new cast). Maybe an after credits thing for the next DC movie, and then small roles/cameos/things going on behind the scenes or in the background of the other intro films, with the second Superman alluding to a conflict arising possibly. Then you do SM/BM so they fight it out, solve a problem together, and then realize something bigger is on the horizon which necessitate the Justice League. Then we have that movie. Boom. Hire me DC, I will make you billions.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Superman has designed some suits in the past for special uses IIRC. Have to admit not much of a DC guy so I don't recall the particulars.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Just to be clear I am with you on this. If they can't get Bale they should wait and reintroduce the new Bat down the road. For me I was down with JGL being Night Wing but taking over the cowl completely? Way too soon. But if they are going to do it this close it seems you have to give it to Levitt as Bale passed him the torch when he gave him the keys to the cave.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
They are getting a little over the top with all the superhero movies. But, frankly, my son is 9 and I have a movie buddy again and he is stoked to see everything he can. So I'm in just to enjoy him enjoying it.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
i just learned the other day that was written for batman with the joker being the "kraven"
but they turned down the idea.
that story turned kraven from a good villain to completely awesome.
Grim Hunt was pretty good also
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Rumor that Christian Bale being offered $60m to be Bruce/bats again. Batman coming out if retirement fits this story right?
NCCommish
Footballguy
It would. And if true that's a lot of cash to turn down don't know if I could turn it down were I him. And it would all but guarantee box office gold.
I don't know that the Bale version plays well to a Batman-Superman combo - his character isn;t made for great character interaction. He would play better in the Justice League cuz he could be out of the forfront but still be the baddest dude in the movie.
NCCommish
Footballguy
In the story line where he beats Superman they weren't very friendly. I think the Bale version is actually the right take for this.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I've seen it speculated that Supermans "blast" would rupture a girls internal girly bitsWhat's better, the guy with unlimited performance capabilities or the guy with unlimited funds to build complex sybians?Probably a girl. It always is.Why would Batman and Superman be fighting?
B-Deep
Footballguy
batman was also like 60
I've actually kind of had enough of bale, the movies were great but he's kind of wearing on me
shadyridr
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NCCommish
Footballguy
Well remember in the last movie Batman was aged and he was broken down. As for Bale I like him and I like what he did with the character. Seemed very believable to me and I would enjoy seeing him reprise the role here.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I have no problem with them being dark. Batman is a psychologists dream. He is haunted by his inability to save his parents as a child. Guilt that has never truly been reconciled. Batman movies should be dark and so should the character.
Hawks64
Footballguy
Add in his perceived failures with ****, his inability to save Jason and what happened with Stephanie. Add in Damian and Talia and well his mind is pretty f'd.
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NCCommish
Footballguy
Good points. I am more a MarvelAdd in his perceived failures with ****, his inability to save Jason and what happened with Stephanie. Add in Damian and Talia and well his mind is pretty f'd.
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so forgive my incomplete analysis.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
There was fun in the first one with the acquisition of all the gadgets through Luscious.
But batman isn't the "fun" comic book character... so he answers it with fun villains like the Riddler, Joker (depending on the interpretation of the character), Harley Quinn, etc.
Well, let me say any take on the "dark knight" version of batman is going to be dark.
I think the traditional "blue" batman can be pretty campy... and we've seen plenty of campy batman's.. did you really like George Clooney's Batman?
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
I've always interpreted it a bit differently.
I don't think he is haunted by his inability to save his parents. I think he knows he was a mere child at the time and thus could not have changed things.
I think he has a burning desire to avenge his parents and create a world where no child has to experience what he did.. so he sets out to eliminate all crime.. antagonize villains in the way he was antagonized... and everything he does is in the never-ending pursuit to eliminate crime.
I think that the concept of Spider-Man is that he is haunted forever by the fact that he could have saved his Uncle Ben, but didn't stop the murderer. At that point he vows never to not do whatever he can to save/help people.. to do whatever he can to never have that feeling of guilt that he wasn't trying ever again (the whole great power/great responsibility thing).
Spider-Man feels personally responsible for his Uncle's death.... and that character throws campy banter in as a stress-breaker for himself... but is as tortured of a comic book character as has ever been... because the more he tries, it seems like the more problems are created for him..
It's what makes that character great... that you can blend the campy and the dark into the same movie.
/end nerd rant
B-Deep
Footballguy
i don't need campy, and i get that batman is dark
i just think some fun helps a ton
you can argue dark night rises v avengers as far as which movie you prefer, but the avengers is infinintly more watchable because it was just fun as hell
Batman does not need to be that, but a little fun would help. three movies of Bale's guttral voiced version is enough for me. I love those films but i don;t know how well superman gets thrust into one of them.
As for the doing the actual dark knight comic, again I don't expect that. It's a future story outside the timeline with no ability to build from or spawn new movies from. It is an epic standalone, and they are going to want to build from this. I just don;t see them doing it without major modifications which will inevitably take it so far from the original story as to be something completely different
I hope i am wrong there, i simply love the Dark Knight books, but I think the animated DVDs are the closest we'll come
i just think some fun helps a ton
you can argue dark night rises v avengers as far as which movie you prefer, but the avengers is infinintly more watchable because it was just fun as hell
Batman does not need to be that, but a little fun would help. three movies of Bale's guttral voiced version is enough for me. I love those films but i don;t know how well superman gets thrust into one of them.
As for the doing the actual dark knight comic, again I don't expect that. It's a future story outside the timeline with no ability to build from or spawn new movies from. It is an epic standalone, and they are going to want to build from this. I just don;t see them doing it without major modifications which will inevitably take it so far from the original story as to be something completely different
I hope i am wrong there, i simply love the Dark Knight books, but I think the animated DVDs are the closest we'll come
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
That was in MallratsI've seen it speculated that Supermans "blast" would rupture a girls internal girly bitsWhat's better, the guy with unlimited performance capabilities or the guy with unlimited funds to build complex sybians?Probably a girl. It always is.Why would Batman and Superman be fighting?
B-Deep
Footballguy
NCCommish
Footballguy
Good nerd rant. I disagree a bit on Batman as I have always felt it was survivors guilt that drove the vengeance but I can certainly see what you are saying. I agree completely on Spidey.
B-Deep
Footballguy
god's honest truth
i probably over idolize the dark knight comics
As such if i were going to make a batman movie i would probably be afraid to do that one
if i were gonna make a serious/dark batman movie, i'd want to do the killing joke
go totally into the psycholgical stuff
but then, i think the modern movie public would despise the ending and it would get the crap panned out of it
i probably over idolize the dark knight comics
As such if i were going to make a batman movie i would probably be afraid to do that one
if i were gonna make a serious/dark batman movie, i'd want to do the killing joke
go totally into the psycholgical stuff
but then, i think the modern movie public would despise the ending and it would get the crap panned out of it
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
The best stories are generally in books/novels because they only have to appeal to the person buying the book most likely.
The movie has to appeal to die-hard fans but be easy to like for casual fans and have plenty of marketing opportunities in it.. and usually have a happy ending of some sort so people leave talking it up.
Taking it one step further, i think many of the great stories are told in the independent comics where they don't have to appeal to more broad world.. and aren't dealing with such iconic characters... (if you read superior spider-man... that's a book seriously taking a pretty big leap with an iconic character... and it's surprising to see.).
Corporation
Angry Bovine
Hawks64
Footballguy
northern exposure
Footballguy
See that is the trouble with aging superheroes, they plaster on the makeup to try to return to their former glory.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This is corny stuff, these guys belong in their own alternate universes.
The dream factory is running out of ideas and it's starting to look like "Abbot and Costello Meet the Wolfman" and stuff like that.
coyote5
Footballguy
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
Why wouldn't he want to do the role even if it were only his standard fee instead of something ridiculously high like this?
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