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Angry Bovine
I think that was a well done job the jury. I'm not sure who wins. I think Kenzie presented better, somewhat surprisingly.
Q at first was the host, with Tiff being the timekeeper.Tiff trying REAL hard to make tonight about her
Terrible can’t believe Jeff allowed thatBS allowing Liz to go and get Kenzie’s peg board.
Probably caught off guard.Terrible can’t believe Jeff allowed thatBS allowing Liz to go and get Kenzie’s peg board.
Tiff trying REAL hard to make tonight about her
Tiff trying REAL hard to make tonight about her
Everyone cast this season lives their life thinking they are the Main Character. Every single one and no one learned a thing this season.
I can imagine Charlie replaying things in his head... he should have convinced Ben to have him (Charlie) face Kenzie in making fire. He knew he could beat Ben and LIz with the jury, why sit on the sidelines and allow someone who may receive multiple votes have a chance to convince the jury?
I mean, Liz was the easy pick for taking to final 3. Ben thought she would beat him, but he's been nuts all season. Charlie should have been the voice of reason and tried to make sure it was Liz, Ben and himself. He over valued his resume.
I can imagine Charlie replaying things in his head... he should have convinced Ben to have him (Charlie) face Kenzie in making fire. He knew he could beat Ben and LIz with the jury, why sit on the sidelines and allow someone who may receive multiple votes have a chance to convince the jury?
I mean, Liz was the easy pick for taking to final 3. Ben thought she would beat him, but he's been nuts all season. Charlie should have been the voice of reason and tried to make sure it was Liz, Ben and himself. He over valued his resume.
Yeah, in retrospect, this was absolutely the move. Hard to look a gift horse in the mouth though. In Charlie's mind, Ben (someone who he knew he would beat) was giving him a free path to the finals. He thought he'd played the best strategic game, is a good talker and had friends on the jury. He had a blind spot and didn't account for the worst case scenario.
When she said she was the timer I said "Who the F*** does she think she is" to my wife. The jury tries to make it all about them which makes the final tribal painful to watch.I generally dislike the current final TC format for that reason. It just feeds the egos of all the "its all about me" types and allows them a platform to grandstand and try to steal the spotlight.
IMO, it was better when each jury member just got 1 question/allotted time.(I know that was a LONG time ago now) It put them in their place and limited the impact any one member could have on the discussion (and made sure that everyone got a chance to say their piece). Now we've got someone like Tiff putting the potential winners on the clock like she's moderating a high school debate competition. Its pretty lame. You lost, honey......and your vote counts the same as everyone else's. Time to let someone else talk for a while.
I can imagine Charlie replaying things in his head... he should have convinced Ben to have him (Charlie) face Kenzie in making fire. He knew he could beat Ben and LIz with the jury, why sit on the sidelines and allow someone who may receive multiple votes have a chance to convince the jury?
I mean, Liz was the easy pick for taking to final 3. Ben thought she would beat him, but he's been nuts all season. Charlie should have been the voice of reason and tried to make sure it was Liz, Ben and himself. He over valued his resume.
Yeah, in retrospect, this was absolutely the move. Hard to look a gift horse in the mouth though. In Charlie's mind, Ben (someone who he knew he would beat) was giving him a free path to the finals. He thought he'd played the best strategic game, is a good talker and had friends on the jury. He had a blind spot and didn't account for the worst case scenario.
He really lost due to the me me me gallery voting more for the compelling Kenzie/she deserves the $$$ story
Survivor version of jury nullification
I loved Kenzie and her attitude/gameI can imagine Charlie replaying things in his head... he should have convinced Ben to have him (Charlie) face Kenzie in making fire. He knew he could beat Ben and LIz with the jury, why sit on the sidelines and allow someone who may receive multiple votes have a chance to convince the jury?
I mean, Liz was the easy pick for taking to final 3. Ben thought she would beat him, but he's been nuts all season. Charlie should have been the voice of reason and tried to make sure it was Liz, Ben and himself. He over valued his resume.
Yeah, in retrospect, this was absolutely the move. Hard to look a gift horse in the mouth though. In Charlie's mind, Ben (someone who he knew he would beat) was giving him a free path to the finals. He thought he'd played the best strategic game, is a good talker and had friends on the jury. He had a blind spot and didn't account for the worst case scenario.
He really lost due to the me me me gallery voting more for the compelling Kenzie/she deserves the $$$ story
Survivor version of jury nullification
To be fair, I think Kenzi played a good enough game that voting her the winner isn't a total farce. Doesn't help that someone physically helped her win immunity at 5 (NEVER should have been allowed. You should not be able to touch someone else's challenge apparatus...period) but she did enough to justify some votes. Dont think she should have won, but still.
Social relationships are a big part of the game. She was really genuinely great at that. She won some challenges without assistance and did enough from a strategic standpoint to make an argument.
Charlie said it best.....(right or wrong) the jury decides the criteria. Just sucks for him because he was also a genuinely nice kid who played a much better "game" than she did. But yeah...a bunch of people who probably think THEY should have been the winner mostly gave it Kenzi because she needed it more.
Maria said she voted for Kenzie over Charlie because of her win at the fire challenge and the raw emotion she showed during and afterwards.I can imagine Charlie replaying things in his head... he should have convinced Ben to have him (Charlie) face Kenzie in making fire. He knew he could beat Ben and LIz with the jury, why sit on the sidelines and allow someone who may receive multiple votes have a chance to convince the jury?
I mean, Liz was the easy pick for taking to final 3. Ben thought she would beat him, but he's been nuts all season. Charlie should have been the voice of reason and tried to make sure it was Liz, Ben and himself. He over valued his resume.
Yeah, in retrospect, this was absolutely the move. Hard to look a gift horse in the mouth though. In Charlie's mind, Ben (someone who he knew he would beat) was giving him a free path to the finals. He thought he'd played the best strategic game, is a good talker and had friends on the jury. He had a blind spot and didn't account for the worst case scenario.
He really lost due to the me me me gallery voting more for the compelling Kenzie/she deserves the $$$ story
Survivor version of jury nullification
I don't think Charlie winning the walkover over Liz with fire would have made any difference
Maria said she voted for Kenzie over Charlie because of her win at the fire challenge and the raw emotion she showed during and afterwards.I can imagine Charlie replaying things in his head... he should have convinced Ben to have him (Charlie) face Kenzie in making fire. He knew he could beat Ben and LIz with the jury, why sit on the sidelines and allow someone who may receive multiple votes have a chance to convince the jury?
I mean, Liz was the easy pick for taking to final 3. Ben thought she would beat him, but he's been nuts all season. Charlie should have been the voice of reason and tried to make sure it was Liz, Ben and himself. He over valued his resume.
Yeah, in retrospect, this was absolutely the move. Hard to look a gift horse in the mouth though. In Charlie's mind, Ben (someone who he knew he would beat) was giving him a free path to the finals. He thought he'd played the best strategic game, is a good talker and had friends on the jury. He had a blind spot and didn't account for the worst case scenario.
He really lost due to the me me me gallery voting more for the compelling Kenzie/she deserves the $$$ story
Survivor version of jury nullification
I don't think Charlie winning the walkover over Liz with fire would have made any difference
I'd have been happy with either Charlie or Kenzie. Charlie's "I did not need fire on my resume" was probably true in terms of how he compared to others going into fire, but was narrow sighted in not appreciating that it would become added to someone else's resume - as the last thing the jury sees. As it turned out, the one person capable of leapfrogging him. Now I don't personally think fire should be given the weight it is given vs the 26 day navigation, since it is often a competition between also rans who neither protected themselves nor set themselves up to be protected from do/die, but it is.
I doubt it will happen because of tradition and intrigue it adds. It does seem like Chris Underwood completely changed fire making. Being exposed to the fire making do/die should logically be viewed like an NCAA play in game - something you need to win just to get into the real discussion. Unfortunately, seems in recent years people are losing ground doing the obvious... not exposing yourself needlessly after doing what it takes to avoid the play in game.I wonder if they (probst and company) will change the fire making to be not in front of the jury. No other competition is shown to the jury, so why should that one? Simply tell them what happened.
Totally won it with that answer.Kenzi may have won it with that answer to Q’s question.
He would've swept the vote 8-0 under those circumstances right?I can imagine Charlie replaying things in his head... he should have convinced Ben to have him (Charlie) face Kenzie in making fire. He knew he could beat Ben and LIz with the jury, why sit on the sidelines and allow someone who may receive multiple votes have a chance to convince the jury?
I mean, Liz was the easy pick for taking to final 3. Ben thought she would beat him, but he's been nuts all season. Charlie should have been the voice of reason and tried to make sure it was Liz, Ben and himself. He over valued his resume.
I think it would be a sweep, or close to it.Totally won it with that answer.Kenzi may have won it with that answer to Q’s question.
He would've swept the vote 8-0 under those circumstances right?I can imagine Charlie replaying things in his head... he should have convinced Ben to have him (Charlie) face Kenzie in making fire. He knew he could beat Ben and LIz with the jury, why sit on the sidelines and allow someone who may receive multiple votes have a chance to convince the jury?
I mean, Liz was the easy pick for taking to final 3. Ben thought she would beat him, but he's been nuts all season. Charlie should have been the voice of reason and tried to make sure it was Liz, Ben and himself. He over valued his resume.
Yep. A little honesty goes a long wayKenzi may have won it with that answer to Q’s question.
Yep. A little honesty goes a long wayKenzi may have won it with that answer to Q’s question.
*I made my love of Kennzee clear last week so I’m glad she won. She did everything right all season given her circumstances and was damn likable. Charlie did too except for making people like him more than Kensie.
Good season.
Ben is poorer than Kenzie.If we're voting based on who could use the money the most, why are we even playing the game? Or, just ask everyone how much they make and vote out the richest person every week until the poorest remain.
An adult musician living with his parents, he's a drug addict. Hopefully he's a recovering addict.Ben is poorer than Kenzie.If we're voting based on who could use the money the most, why are we even playing the game? Or, just ask everyone how much they make and vote out the richest person every week until the poorest remain.