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Footballguy
You always hear so many people quote 40 times and talk about how players have talent and burst and accuracy and all those things... but, when it comes down to it, is talent any better than opportunity in FF?
Evidence submission for review:
1. CJ SPiller-Comes out of college and people says he has this and he has that and he has so much talent. Yet, to this point, he's a flop. So now he gets a chance. So, if he succeeds now, how do we argue that the talent was the factor? After all, if the talent was always there, would it not have been demonstrated before now, when its NECESSARY to put him on the field?
2. Reggie Bush-Possibly the most hyped player to come out since Peyton and before Luck. Talent, as it was said back then was clearly not the issue. Yet he absolutely disappeared until his opportunity changed. Now, he's actually viable in FF and looks to be a useful part of the Dolphins offense.
3. DeMarco Murray-Ok, here is where it gets fun. I'm sure there will be people that will say "I always said he was more talented, yada yada yada, but the facts with the Cowboys are Romo was hurt and the line was playing terrible and until the injury, the Cowboys never ATTEMPTED to be as balanced. Then Jones comes in and Murray gets in there, they try to protect Romo as he heals and they play some poor pass defenses, and now all of a sudden, the Cowboys actually look like the 90's Cowboys. Talent or opportunity? Would Felix's "talent" show more if he had ever gotten the ball 30 times a game? Would he be good for 20+/80 a game like Murray has been the past few weeks? So much for not losing a job to injury.
4. Arian Foster-My favorite. Although I completely disagree with the people that say he is not really that talented and he is a product of the system, this one would seem to swing the verdict towards "opportunity" IF people actually TRULY believe that Foster is not that talented.
Conventional talk on the boards overall always seems to be "the cream rises to the top" and people take talent first when they draft, but more and more, it seems like it is the situational forum and not the true talent that makes for fantasy success. For every AJ Green that comes along, there seems to be a dozen Stevie Johnsons and Fred Jacksons and Steve Breaston (not saying they aren't talented, but the divide between what people assume is the talent level is in no way that large in terms of fantasy success). Same way, flipped: for every Mark Ingram that costs a ransom on draft day, there exists the Chris Obgannayo that has as good or better success in a given opportunity...
So, not to build a post where people start arguing one player over this one or that one, but just some food for thought: Look around your fantasy leagues as we head to the playoffs and look at those expensive "stud" players. Then look at the guys that cost a fraction less but perform as well..Then look at the guys you never knew a year ago and what they are doing.
Interesting to see, at least for me, in dynasty leagues..
Evidence submission for review:
1. CJ SPiller-Comes out of college and people says he has this and he has that and he has so much talent. Yet, to this point, he's a flop. So now he gets a chance. So, if he succeeds now, how do we argue that the talent was the factor? After all, if the talent was always there, would it not have been demonstrated before now, when its NECESSARY to put him on the field?
2. Reggie Bush-Possibly the most hyped player to come out since Peyton and before Luck. Talent, as it was said back then was clearly not the issue. Yet he absolutely disappeared until his opportunity changed. Now, he's actually viable in FF and looks to be a useful part of the Dolphins offense.
3. DeMarco Murray-Ok, here is where it gets fun. I'm sure there will be people that will say "I always said he was more talented, yada yada yada, but the facts with the Cowboys are Romo was hurt and the line was playing terrible and until the injury, the Cowboys never ATTEMPTED to be as balanced. Then Jones comes in and Murray gets in there, they try to protect Romo as he heals and they play some poor pass defenses, and now all of a sudden, the Cowboys actually look like the 90's Cowboys. Talent or opportunity? Would Felix's "talent" show more if he had ever gotten the ball 30 times a game? Would he be good for 20+/80 a game like Murray has been the past few weeks? So much for not losing a job to injury.
4. Arian Foster-My favorite. Although I completely disagree with the people that say he is not really that talented and he is a product of the system, this one would seem to swing the verdict towards "opportunity" IF people actually TRULY believe that Foster is not that talented.
Conventional talk on the boards overall always seems to be "the cream rises to the top" and people take talent first when they draft, but more and more, it seems like it is the situational forum and not the true talent that makes for fantasy success. For every AJ Green that comes along, there seems to be a dozen Stevie Johnsons and Fred Jacksons and Steve Breaston (not saying they aren't talented, but the divide between what people assume is the talent level is in no way that large in terms of fantasy success). Same way, flipped: for every Mark Ingram that costs a ransom on draft day, there exists the Chris Obgannayo that has as good or better success in a given opportunity...
So, not to build a post where people start arguing one player over this one or that one, but just some food for thought: Look around your fantasy leagues as we head to the playoffs and look at those expensive "stud" players. Then look at the guys that cost a fraction less but perform as well..Then look at the guys you never knew a year ago and what they are doing.
Interesting to see, at least for me, in dynasty leagues..
