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Talk to me about the Shiancoe "TD" last night (1 Viewer)

I think you guys who are talking about all of the other bad calls/no calls are just making the point here...the officiating was terrible in this game. Chilly was an absolute idiot for not challenging the Quarless TD. Of course you didn't hear McCarthy bashing the refs in that game...why would he when his team came out on top.

 
What I don't understand is why the "official" does not get fired for this type of mistake.When it is painfully obvious to any intelligent football fan watching on TV, the announcers broadcasting the game AND then the NFL issues its obligatory "we made a mistake" letter following the game, the replay official who got such call wrong should be FIRED or at a minimum DEMOTED to the duties of carrying the 1st down markers on the sidelines.A lot of this stuff isn't that HARD. Anyone can miss a call like that in real speed live action but there is absolutely no excuse for eff-ing up a big TD call in real game that arguably could impact a win or a loss.
Because despite some thinking its obvious (which is funny that you consider anyone who disagreed to basically not be an intelligent football fan?) plenty disagreed and thought the correct call was made.In the end, to err is human.
The 2 announcers calling the game, myself and virtually all pundits that I heard on ESPN/NFL radio the following Monday thought that it was a TD. That was the basis of my statement. I would hazard a guess that if a poll were place on this board (TD or no TD) that > 80% would vote "TD". I agree that mistakes are made all the time in live action, but when viewed on slow mo, high def replay this was obvious to most layman. (Not to mention same crew that overturned the Calvin Johnson TD).
 
What I don't understand is why the "official" does not get fired for this type of mistake.When it is painfully obvious to any intelligent football fan watching on TV, the announcers broadcasting the game AND then the NFL issues its obligatory "we made a mistake" letter following the game, the replay official who got such call wrong should be FIRED or at a minimum DEMOTED to the duties of carrying the 1st down markers on the sidelines.A lot of this stuff isn't that HARD. Anyone can miss a call like that in real speed live action but there is absolutely no excuse for eff-ing up a big TD call in real game that arguably could impact a win or a loss.
Because despite some thinking its obvious (which is funny that you consider anyone who disagreed to basically not be an intelligent football fan?) plenty disagreed and thought the correct call was made.In the end, to err is human.
The 2 announcers calling the game, myself and virtually all pundits that I heard on ESPN/NFL radio the following Monday thought that it was a TD. That was the basis of my statement. I would hazard a guess that if a poll were place on this board (TD or no TD) that > 80% would vote "TD". I agree that mistakes are made all the time in live action, but when viewed on slow mo, high def replay this was obvious to most layman. (Not to mention same crew that overturned the Calvin Johnson TD).
Judging by the posts in this thread...had the poll been taken earlier in the week it would have started out around 80% and dwindled down in the 60% range.This thread is also a sign that most layman don't have a great grasp on what the rule even says.
 
It's Official: Shiancoe Call Was A Bad One

Carl Johnson, the NFL's vice president of officiating, told Vikings coach Brad Childress on Monday that referee Scott Green made a mistake when he overturned Visanthe Shiancoe's 17-yard diving touchdown catch on review because, in Green's estimation, the ground helped the tight end hold onto the football.

Childress shared this information with the media and, partly because of that, was fined $35,000 by the NFL on Tuesday. Well, Wednesday night Johnson went on the official review segment of "NFL Total Access" on the NFL Network and explained to America that the second-quarter call made in the Vikings' 28-24 loss to the Packers was a bad one.

"One thing we need to know whenever a player is going to the ground, making the catch, [is] firm grasp and control and did we see the ball move?" Johnson said. "Was there a bobble? Was there a loss of control? Did the hand separate from the football? In the referee’s judgment, he thought that there was movement, that there was some loss of control. However, as we further assessed the play, we saw that there was not enough to change this call. Therefore, we wish the ruling on the field would have stood as a completed catch. There just wasn’t enough to overturn this call."

So it was an incorrect call? "Yeah, we would have wished the call on the field would have stood in this instance."

Looks like you can take your tinfoil hats and speculation on whether or not Chilly was lying, or they were simply trying to placate a Head Coach of an NFL team by patronizing him (:eyeroll:) and wipe your nose with it.

 
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It's Official: Shiancoe Call Was A Bad One

Carl Johnson, the NFL's vice president of officiating, told Vikings coach Brad Childress on Monday that referee Scott Green made a mistake when he overturned Visanthe Shiancoe's 17-yard diving touchdown catch on review because, in Green's estimation, the ground helped the tight end hold onto the football.

Childress shared this information with the media and, partly because of that, was fined $35,000 by the NFL on Tuesday. Well, Wednesday night Johnson went on the official review segment of "NFL Total Access" on the NFL Network and explained to America that the second-quarter call made in the Vikings' 28-24 loss to the Packers was a bad one.

"One thing we need to know whenever a player is going to the ground, making the catch, [is] firm grasp and control and did we see the ball move?" Johnson said. "Was there a bobble? Was there a loss of control? Did the hand separate from the football? In the referee’s judgment, he thought that there was movement, that there was some loss of control. However, as we further assessed the play, we saw that there was not enough to change this call. Therefore, we wish the ruling on the field would have stood as a completed catch. There just wasn’t enough to overturn this call."

So it was an incorrect call? "Yeah, we would have wished the call on the field would have stood in this instance."

Looks like you can take your tinfoil hats and speculation on whether or not Chilly was lying, or they were simply trying to placate a Head Coach of an NFL team by patronizing him (:eyeroll:) and wipe your nose with it.
Notice how he says..."there was not enough to change the call". Think its possible that if the ref in real time saw it as incomplete that he would say the same thing?

I don't think its tinfoil hat speculation. It was the fact that to that point the only thing we had was Chilly's words.

Did they discuss how they missed that Walker stepped out of bounds, came back in and was the first to touch the ball? :towelwave:

How about how Collins first makes contact with Harvin while they are in bounds yet gets hit with 15 yards.

You all can keep crying about the refs...but they gave you some breaks too.

 

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