Tarkenton on Favre (2 Viewers)

[Johnnymac]

Fran needs to look in the mirror. He comes off as a moron when he makes comments like this. He could not even get on the field in today's game. He might be able to be the laundry boy and keep Favre's jock clean.

 

[Mario Kart]

Fran always reminds me of the guy that wants to remind everyone that HE used to be the man. I love watching the films of him playing, but he really works hard to hammer in his own greatness. He loves to talk crap about Brett.

The irony of course being that Brett wants to remind people that HE used to be the man. He really hammers on his own greatness and loves to talk about Brett.

Swing and a miss. You know Johnny, that was nowhere close to hitting the ball.

 

[Lobary]

Even if he scrambles for a 10 yard gain it's still 46 yarder -- no chip shot by any means. When you gactor in that on his gimpy anke, I'm guessing he only makes it back to the LOS plus about 6-7 yards. That leaves you with a 50 yarder for the win. He thought he saw the guy open downfield, and so he took a shot.

Longwell was 10 for 11 on attempts over 40 this season, and 2-2 over 50. So pretty much money in the bag there. Especially at home in a dome.

Ridonkulous.How many times are we gonna hear this 2/2 over 50 stat? It is not accurate, folks. Sure, if you go by the official stats it is, but the reality is that Longwell lined up for 50 yd kicks more than twice this season. HE HAD A 51 YD ATTEMPT BLOCKED AND RETURNED FOR A TD BY THE NINERS.So let's stop with the Longwell is perfect from 50+, please.

 

[Captain Placeholder]

Super Bowl VIII - Dolphins 24, Minnesota 7

18/28, 182 yards, 0 TD, 1 Int, 4-17 rushing, 1 TD

Super Bowl IX - Pittsburgh 16, Minnesota 6

11/26, 102 yards, 0 TD, 3 Int, 1-0 rushing, 0 TD

Super Bowl XI - Oakland 32, Minnesota 14

17/35, 205 yards, 1 TD, 2 Int, 0-0 rushing, 0 TD

Collectively - Opponents 72, Minnesota 27

46/89 (51.7%), 489 yards (5.5ypa), 1 TD, 6 Int, 5-17 rushing, 1 TD

To Fran's credit, these three SB opponents were some of the stingiest and toughest defenses of the 70s: Miami's No-Name, Pittsburgh's Steel Curtain, and Oakland. I don't know how old you are, but it was rare in that era to throw for much over 250 yards, much less 300, in a game. It was more built on running. IIRC, Minny in SB IX may still stand as the fewest yards gained in a SB game.In short, there's no shame in losing to three of the dominant teams that played in the 70s. Cut him a break on that.

Cut Fran a break on not being able to win "the big game" because he faced some tough opponents? Isn't not being able to win the big games exactly what his biggest criticism of Favre is and has been since joining the Vikings? As much as I dislike Favre, he's won a big game and has a ring to prove it. Fran and his 51% completion/5.5ypa and 1/6 TD/Int ratio hasn't. So no, I don't think him and his act should be cut a break so long as he continues to run his mouth when clearly he shouldn't be.

No, it's Favre's propensity, especially recently, to choke in the big moments of games. Nice try though.

 

[SayWhat?]

Super Bowl VIII - Dolphins 24, Minnesota 7

18/28, 182 yards, 0 TD, 1 Int, 4-17 rushing, 1 TD

Super Bowl IX - Pittsburgh 16, Minnesota 6

11/26, 102 yards, 0 TD, 3 Int, 1-0 rushing, 0 TD

Super Bowl XI - Oakland 32, Minnesota 14

17/35, 205 yards, 1 TD, 2 Int, 0-0 rushing, 0 TD

Collectively - Opponents 72, Minnesota 27

46/89 (51.7%), 489 yards (5.5ypa), 1 TD, 6 Int, 5-17 rushing, 1 TD

To Fran's credit, these three SB opponents were some of the stingiest and toughest defenses of the 70s: Miami's No-Name, Pittsburgh's Steel Curtain, and Oakland. I don't know how old you are, but it was rare in that era to throw for much over 250 yards, much less 300, in a game. It was more built on running. IIRC, Minny in SB IX may still stand as the fewest yards gained in a SB game.In short, there's no shame in losing to three of the dominant teams that played in the 70s. Cut him a break on that.

Cut Fran a break on not being able to win "the big game" because he faced some tough opponents? Isn't not being able to win the big games exactly what his biggest criticism of Favre is and has been since joining the Vikings? As much as I dislike Favre, he's won a big game and has a ring to prove it. Fran and his 51% completion/5.5ypa and 1/6 TD/Int ratio hasn't. So no, I don't think him and his act should be cut a break so long as he continues to run his mouth when clearly he shouldn't be.

No, it's Favre's propensity, especially recently, to choke in the big moments of games. Nice try though.

Nice try? I think you're splitting hairs here. Fran's criticizing Favre for not coming through when it matters (i.e. choking) in big games. Fran's numbers in three Super Bowls speak volumes to how he stepped up his play in the three biggest games of his career. Who is he to talk crap? I don't think Tarkenton has much of a leg to stand on here, and you obviously disagree. Now if Montana, Brady, Bradshaw or Aikman were blasting Favre, then its a different story.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

For every boneheaded, half-scrambling, off-the-back-foot, no-follow-through throw into triple coverage that results in a game killing interception, there's one exactly like it that hits his receiver in the hands in the back of the endzone and wins the game.

This is the legacy of Favre that I've come to love and hate. It was a bad choice, he should have at the very least thrown it to the receiver's feet knowing it's going into coverage. Favre is better than that, but he time and time again tries to prove he is above the law of physics. Every one of these threads end up in a discussion about whether or not Longwell can make a 50+ yarder, but that really doesn't play into the opinion that it was a bad choice. In fact I'm willing to be that was not even a consideration in Favre's mind, that's just how he rolls. It's just another play that he will probably complete half the times he throws it, unfortunately it was a crucial timing that ended their season.If another great QB made the same decision and threw that pick, would we judge it any different? Actually yes we would because not many HOF-to-be QB's make as many bad decisions as Favre has in his career as already pointed out.

Favre's last 3 (three) seasons have ended with a pick.

Favre ended his time with the Falcons, Packers, and Jets with a pick.

On one hand this gives us something to talk about for the next seven months. On the other hand this means more Favre talk on ESPN for the next seven months.

 

[daveR]

Jason Campbell does a great job of managing a game. Think he'll end up in the HOF alongside of "Brent"?

 

[Tau837]

Just watched PTI.

Wilbon: "Fran Tarkenton is ripping your boy Brett Favre again, calling that interception last Sunday stupid. Okay by you?"

Kornheiser: "Oh but That's Incredible was Hill Street Blues, right?"

They go through their sign off routine at the end of the show, and end with this:

Kornheiser: "Fran Tarkenton, seriously... go to your room."

 

[Sundog]

Fran Tarkenton is an idiot. I love having Brett on this team, and hope like hell he doesn't retire.

 

[Ghost Rider]

My favorite comment of Tarkenton's was, "A quarterback is to make his teammates better but he is not about that."



Yeah, Sidney Rice was lighting the NFL on fire before 2009.

Tarkenton just comes off like a bitter old fool the more he talks. Funny how we didn't hear a peep out of him all year when Favre was playing lights out, but the minute Favre throws a bad INT in a playoff loss where the blame is all over the place, Tarkenton opens his yap up and accuses Favre of losing the game all by himself. What a complete idiot.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

My favorite comment of Tarkenton's was, "A quarterback is to make his teammates better but he is not about that."



Yeah, Sidney Rice was lighting the NFL on fire before 2009.

Tarkenton just comes off like a bitter old fool the more he talks. Funny how we didn't hear a peep out of him all year when Favre was playing lights out, but the minute Favre throws a bad INT in a playoff loss where the blame is all over the place, Tarkenton opens his yap up and accuses Favre of losing the game all by himself. What a complete idiot.

To be fair, that opportunity only comes up once a year.

 

[scott46984]

I should lead with a disclaimer. I'm from MN and a huge Vikings fan. With that said, I've never been able to stand Favre, as I've always found him to be a bit of a glory hound with that of being overdramatic on the field, the one yard TD passes on 1st and goal to pad the stats and just generally being the face of the Packers. He's obviously enhanced that glory hound image in my mind, and many others now, with his indecisiveness over the past few years regarding returning/retiring. That being said, he made the Vikings infinitely better this year and far more enjoyable to watch. Besides a couple of miscues in the Pitt game and an enormously boneheaded decision at the end of the biggest game of the season against the Saints, Favre was incredible. But I'm still not a fan.

But you know what? Tarkenton is just a jealous doucher. It was painfully obvious that he was jealous and/or bitter before the year started when he went off about Favre to the media just before or after (can't recall) Favre signed with the Vikings. And then, as Favre silenced any and all doubters including myself, Fran simply went into hibernation because he had to have realized how much more foolish his preseason comments were looking week after week. So now that Favre finally screwed up with no further chance for redemption, he surfaces again to spout off? Pathetic. As much as I dislike Favre, Fran's earned my disdain on a whole new level with this nonsense. And how about Fran now criticizing Favre's ability to perform in the clutch? The same Favre that actually won a Super Bowl. Hysterical when you really think about it. Hey Fran, I've got a grand idea...think before you speak from now on. It might save you some face. Here's your stat lines from the three Super Bowl appearances where you led your team to three decisive losses and an average of 9 points per game:

Super Bowl VIII - Dolphins 24, Minnesota 7

18/28, 182 yards, 0 TD, 1 Int, 4-17 rushing, 1 TD

Super Bowl IX - Pittsburg 16, Minnesota 6

11/26, 102 yards, 0 TD, 3 Int, 1-0 rushing, 0 TD

Super Bowl XI - Oakland 32, Minnesota 14

17/35, 205 yards, 1 TD, 2 Int, 0-0 rushing, 0 TD

Collectively - Opponents 72, Minnesota 27

46/89 (51.7%), 489 yards (5.5ypa), 1 TD, 6 Int, 5-17 rushing, 1 TD

I'm sorry, but this clown really rubs me the wrong way. Please, for the love of God just shut your jealous hole already.

Couldn't agree more. As a young Vikings fan in the 70's, I thought the world of Tark and those "tough" Viking Teams under Bud Grant. Still do. But Fran is ruining his legacy by this BS. No way the Vikes were even in this position this year without Farve. Appears to me Tark is simply worried about his legacy as "the"Vikings memorable QB", and it's classless. Unfortunately, what those Viking teams accomplished in the 70's will never be recognized as much as it should be b/c they never won the Super Bowl, but that those were damn good teams playing three of the best teams in NFL history (Dolphins,Steelers, Raiders). Fran should have taken the high road, but his self serving comments only serve to make him look like a pathetic glory hound.

Bottom line: Would the Vikes have been in the 2010 NFC Championship game in position to win at the end with Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels - NO!. End of discussion.

 

[Sabertooth]

Fran always reminds me of the guy that wants to remind everyone that HE used to be the man. I love watching the films of him playing, but he really works hard to hammer in his own greatness. He loves to talk crap about Brett.

The irony of course being that Brett wants to remind people that HE used to be the man. He really hammers on his own greatness and loves to talk about Brett.

How did Brett express to you that he wanted to "remind" people that this year? You mean by being better than 95% of the QBs all year? Yeah I guess that's a pretty good way to want to remind people, but actually following it up is a pretty good trick too.I guess you could be referring to how he wanted to remind McCarthy and Thompson that he was a good player once, and again in sweeping GB and utterly demoralizing their pass D he succeeded there, too.

And the Packers were vindicated when he was not able to win in the playoffs when it counted. The rare situation where he was right with his straw man argument that the Packers didn't think he was good any more and the Packers were right in the assumption that his 10 cent head would cost his team dearly in the playoffs. Win-win.

 

[mozzy84]

Fran always reminds me of the guy that wants to remind everyone that HE used to be the man. I love watching the films of him playing, but he really works hard to hammer in his own greatness. He loves to talk crap about Brett.

The irony of course being that Brett wants to remind people that HE used to be the man. He really hammers on his own greatness and loves to talk about Brett.

How did Brett express to you that he wanted to "remind" people that this year? You mean by being better than 95% of the QBs all year? Yeah I guess that's a pretty good way to want to remind people, but actually following it up is a pretty good trick too.I guess you could be referring to how he wanted to remind McCarthy and Thompson that he was a good player once, and again in sweeping GB and utterly demoralizing their pass D he succeeded there, too.

And the Packers were vindicated when he was not able to win in the playoffs when it counted. The rare situation where he was right with his straw man argument that the Packers didn't think he was good any more and the Packers were right in the assumption that his 10 cent head would cost his team dearly in the playoffs. Win-win.

and the packers had absolutely nothing to do with that, they were sitting home doing nothing, mainly because Favre blew up there crappy D up twice and helped seal up a first round bye doing so.

 

[sho nuff]

Fran always reminds me of the guy that wants to remind everyone that HE used to be the man. I love watching the films of him playing, but he really works hard to hammer in his own greatness. He loves to talk crap about Brett.

The irony of course being that Brett wants to remind people that HE used to be the man. He really hammers on his own greatness and loves to talk about Brett.

How did Brett express to you that he wanted to "remind" people that this year? You mean by being better than 95% of the QBs all year? Yeah I guess that's a pretty good way to want to remind people, but actually following it up is a pretty good trick too.I guess you could be referring to how he wanted to remind McCarthy and Thompson that he was a good player once, and again in sweeping GB and utterly demoralizing their pass D he succeeded there, too.

And the Packers were vindicated when he was not able to win in the playoffs when it counted. The rare situation where he was right with his straw man argument that the Packers didn't think he was good any more and the Packers were right in the assumption that his 10 cent head would cost his team dearly in the playoffs. Win-win.

and the packers had absolutely nothing to do with that, they were sitting home doing nothing, mainly because Favre blew up there crappy D up twice and helped seal up a first round bye doing so.

I think what he is saying is Packer management who let him go thinking he could not win a championship would feel vindicated.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Even if he scrambles for a 10 yard gain it's still 46 yarder -- no chip shot by any means. When you gactor in that on his gimpy anke, I'm guessing he only makes it back to the LOS plus about 6-7 yards. That leaves you with a 50 yarder for the win. He thought he saw the guy open downfield, and so he took a shot.

Longwell was 10 for 11 on attempts over 40 this season, and 2-2 over 50. So pretty much money in the bag there. Especially at home in a dome.

:natekaeding:

 

[FavreCo]

All the while he was ragging Favre, you can damn well bet he was jumping for joy that the Viikings lost. This joke was bashing the signing from day one.

 

[Phil Elliott]

Fran as been critical of the Vikings QB's ever since he left. This is nothing new.

 

[Mile High]

Even if he scrambles for a 10 yard gain it's still 46 yarder -- no chip shot by any means. When you gactor in that on his gimpy anke, I'm guessing he only makes it back to the LOS plus about 6-7 yards. That leaves you with a 50 yarder for the win. He thought he saw the guy open downfield, and so he took a shot.

Longwell was 10 for 11 on attempts over 40 this season, and 2-2 over 50. So pretty much money in the bag there. Especially at home in a dome.

Oh really?1998After kicker Gary Anderson, who had just completed the first perfect regular season in NFL history (not missing a single extra point or field goal attempt the entire year), missed a 38-yard attempt with less than 2 minutes remaining.

 

[The Moz]

Brett runs for 7-10 yards there easily Minny wins -- instead he throw accross his body into double coverage and you all call Tark a dolt for pointing this out? Favre is a great QB but a very dumb QB in big games.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Watching the broadcast replay it sure looked like Favre had room to run. Whether a 40 year old slowed by chronically bad ankles and gimpy from hits in the game would have got far, who can say, but it sure looked like he had room.

Since then I have seen a different angle of the play and the apparent wide open room to run was not so large, though there was still some room.

I just wonder what Favre's legacy would have been had he, like Elway years back (though Elway's was in the Superbowl), run for it, dove, got helicoptered on the hit, and had his yardage be the difference maker in getting them to the Superbowl and then winning. Imagine if he had even managed to have gotten superficially bloodied, visuals like that can make a legacy..

Nope, Farve should have run. He should have gimpy legged it down the field, faked a pass, pulled it down and kept going, lowering his head, taking the hit, gotten bloodied, had to been helped from the field, maybe even after a roughing call, and watched from the sidelines as Longwell sent them to two weeks of recovery time and the big game. He had the storybook ending right there in front of him and he choose to wing it back into the middle to an inexperienced receiver. I believe that in his dreams he wants that Elwayesque ending so bad he can taste it and yet there is that thing insicde him that just screams wing it and pray.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Watching the broadcast replay it sure looked like Favre had room to run. Whether a 40 year old slowed by chronically bad ankles and gimpy from hits in the game would have got far, who can say, but it sure looked like he had room. Since then I have seen a different angle of the play and the apparent wide open room to run was not so large, though there was still some room.I just wonder what Fabre's legacy would have been had he, like Elway years back (though elways was i the suprebowl), run for it, dove, got helicoptered on the hit, and had his yardage be the difference maker in getting them to the Superbowl and then winning. Imagine if he had even managed to have gotten superficially bloodied.Nope, Farve should have run. He should have gimpy legged it down the field, faked a pass, pulled it down and kept going, lowering his head, taking the hit, gotten bloodied, had to been helped from the field, maybe even after a roughing call, and watched from the sidelines as Longwell sent them to two weeks of recovery time and the big game. He had the storybook ending right there in front of him and he choose to wing it back into the middle to an inexperienced receiver.

Yeah. This is pretty accurate.

 

[Da Guru]

Watching the broadcast replay it sure looked like Favre had room to run. Whether a 40 year old slowed by chronically bad ankles and gimpy from hits in the game would have got far, who can say, but it sure looked like he had room. Since then I have seen a different angle of the play and the apparent wide open room to run was not so large, though there was still some room.I just wonder what Favre's legacy would have been had he, like Elway years back (though Elway's was in the Superbowl), run for it, dove, got helicoptered on the hit, and had his yardage be the difference maker in getting them to the Superbowl and then winning. Imagine if he had even managed to have gotten superficially bloodied, visuals like that can make a legacy..Nope, Farve should have run. He should have gimpy legged it down the field, faked a pass, pulled it down and kept going, lowering his head, taking the hit, gotten bloodied, had to been helped from the field, maybe even after a roughing call, and watched from the sidelines as Longwell sent them to two weeks of recovery time and the big game. He had the storybook ending right there in front of him and he choose to wing it back into the middle to an inexperienced receiver. I believe that in his dreams he wants that Elwayesque ending so bad he can taste it and yet there is that thing insicde him that just screams wing it and pray.

I agree 100% There was nobody open on the play..at the very least run and slide and pick up 3-4 yards..possibly 8-9.Farves reaction to his throw told the story..he knew he made another huge mistake in a big game.

 

[massraider]

Brett runs for 7-10 yards there easily Minny wins -- instead he throw accross his body into double coverage and you all call Tark a dolt for pointing this out? Favre is a great QB but a very dumb QB in big games.

Tark didn't just point this out. He said the team isn't better because Favre was there. Basically, he waited all year, until Favre was put into a rough position, by wussy play-calling and a mind-boggling penalty, then finally made a dumb throw when he should have run (so obvious to those of us that have days to think about it, and multiple replays), then Tark finally gets to say, "Look, I was right!" BTW, love the irony of Fran Tarkenton mocking another Minny QB for coming up short.The only thing Tark has proven is that he can be as bitter and sad as internet Favre-haters.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Brett runs for 7-10 yards there easily Minny wins -- instead he throw accross his body into double coverage and you all call Tark a dolt for pointing this out? Favre is a great QB but a very dumb QB in big games.

Tark didn't just point this out. He said the team isn't better because Favre was there. Basically, he waited all year, until Favre was put into a rough position, by wussy play-calling and a mind-boggling penalty, then finally made a dumb throw when he should have run (so obvious to those of us that have days to think about it, and multiple replays), then Tark finally gets to say, "Look, I was right!" BTW, love the irony of Fran Tarkenton mocking another Minny QB for coming up short.The only thing Tark has proven is that he can be as bitter and sad as internet Favre-haters.

Also very true. Tark's timing makes it pretty certain that he had an agenda. Additionally, Favres mistake was one of many that cost the Vikings the game. It's timing, being on a drive that could have sealed the game for the Vikes, doesn't erase the previous mistakes that could have set the Vikings up so that the game wasn't as close as it was. It still doesn't mean Tarkenton was right to criticize the signing of Favre in the first place. The Vikings had a great year and production in the passing game they wouldn't have touched with any other QB on the roster or that was available via trade/draft/FA. Shame the season ended the way it did for Vikes and Favre fans, but that's just how it is. I still enjoyed having Favre as a QB, even if it was just for last year, and I don't blame the fact the Vikes aren't in the SB on him. It was one mistake in a high pressure situation. Lots of blame to go around on the Vikings side of the football.

 

[saintsfan]

Brett runs for 7-10 yards there easily Minny wins -- instead he throw accross his body into double coverage and you all call Tark a dolt for pointing this out? Favre is a great QB but a very dumb QB in big games.

Tark didn't just point this out. He said the team isn't better because Favre was there. Basically, he waited all year, until Favre was put into a rough position, by wussy play-calling and a mind-boggling penalty, then finally made a dumb throw when he should have run (so obvious to those of us that have days to think about it, and multiple replays), then Tark finally gets to say, "Look, I was right!" BTW, love the irony of Fran Tarkenton mocking another Minny QB for coming up short.The only thing Tark has proven is that he can be as bitter and sad as internet Favre-haters.

Also very true. Tark's timing makes it pretty certain that he had an agenda. Additionally, Favres mistake was one of many that cost the Vikings the game. It's timing, being on a drive that could have sealed the game for the Vikes, doesn't erase the previous mistakes that could have set the Vikings up so that the game wasn't as close as it was. It still doesn't mean Tarkenton was right to criticize the signing of Favre in the first place. The Vikings had a great year and production in the passing game they wouldn't have touched with any other QB on the roster or that was available via trade/draft/FA. Shame the season ended the way it did for Vikes and Favre fans, but that's just how it is. I still enjoyed having Favre as a QB, even if it was just for last year, and I don't blame the fact the Vikes aren't in the SB on him. It was one mistake in a high pressure situation. Lots of blame to go around on the Vikings side of the football.

Tarkenton just wanted to be right, so he was waiting for ANY Favre mistake, but the fact is that passing game produced at a level they wouldn't have come close to without Favre. Also, since the running game wasn't as dominant as it's been in the past, I think it's safe to say that the Vikes don't sniff the NFC Championship Game without Favre.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Link to pics

Probably won't change anyone's mind posting on this thread but for what it's worth, here's what Favre's ankle and hammy looked like after the game...

 

[Tau837]

Link to pics

Probably won't change anyone's mind posting on this thread but for what it's worth, here's what Favre's ankle and hammy looked like after the game...

Wow. At least if people see those they might stop saying he was just exaggerating the injuries for effect. Especially the ankle... that looks bad.

 

[Joe Bryant]

From a radio interview, reported in print at the Journal Sentinel

Former Minnesota Vikings quarterback Fran Tarkenton, who has taken some shots at Vikings quarterback Brett Favre in the past, took a few more today during an interview with radio station 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia.

Tarkenton was asked to assess the Vikings' performance in the NFC title game against New Orleans.

“I think the Vikings were clearly the best team,” Tarkenton said. “They held this New Orleans offense to under 300 yards. They made Drew Brees look ordinary. He didn’t even throw for 200 yards. The guys have been throwing for 400, 500 yards. They were the better team. Their offense turned the ball over five times, the Viking offense. But still if (Favre) didn’t make that stupid play at the end of the game they would have won the game. Now you are in Philadelphia, remember a few years ago when Green Bay played you guys? . . . I mean he throws the ball straight up in the air, free falls. Do you remember that? I have never seen any quarterback much less, well he is going to be a Hall of Fame quarterback, make plays like that at a critical time. He has done the same thing in the Giants’ game (2007 season). He plays at home, has the better team and plays against Eli (Manning). He was a young kid right? And he throws the pick…. and then he does what he did the other night which was just shameful because great quarterbacks, and he is a great quarterback, they don’t do that. You don’t see Peyton Manning do that.”

Tarkenton said he is not down on Favre’s abilities.

“No, I think he has been a great, great player,” Tarkenton said. “I am not a great fan of Brett Favre’s because he goes out and all I heard them talk about is Brett Favre and he is tough, he is getting hit. You know Peyton Manning gets hit. I have played with a torn ACL. Donovan McNabb gets hit. We all get hit but he is flapping around and jumping around and he is getting hit and he talks in the soft voice. I would rather it be about the team and not Brett Favre. I get the idea that it is more about Brett Favre than the team. A quarterback is to make his teammates better but he is not about that. Now as a player, he has been a great player. No question about it. Also great players, my gosh, I have never seen great quarterbacks make that many bad plays in a critical moment in a playoff game.”

Tarkenton was asked about Favre’s career passing yards and touchdown records.

“He has done great and Peyton Manning is going to go by his records because you play 16 games today,” Tarkenton said. “It is a quarterbacks league, they changed the rules in 1979 where you couldn’t hit the receiver past five yards. That changed the whole offense. Now most anybody can throw for 300 yards. Back in our day if you threw for 300 yards that was a huge thing. Now these records are going to continually be broken because of the nature of the game and Peyton will beat Favre. Favre has been a great, great player. No question about it. One of the greats of all-time. I am just not a great Brett Favre fan.”

Tarkenton's obsession with this is one of the more embarrassing things in sports these days. Let it go, Francis.J

 

[Tanner9919]

cocaine is a hell of a drug Fran

isn't he a crook, felon, or convicted fraudster?why does anyone listen to a has-been like Franny?

 

[Franknbeans]

Lighten up , Francis!

 

[Casting Couch]

The interception was a situation where the qb had to take a chance to make a play in order to win. Favre understands this concept & is not afraid to take a shot when it is needed.

Huh ?What game were you watching.FT made the point that Favre does this again and again in key situations.Favre could have tucked the ball away and run into field goal range, he instead electedto do the same thing he has done in the past when faced with a big game winning situation, he got wreckless.