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TE Cole Kmet, CHI (1 Viewer)
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The Frankman
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FairWarning
Footballguy
Bears used him differently today, was actually a threat. The offense is progressing nicely.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
I almost picked him up, but talked myself out of it due to his lack of targets
The Frankman
Footballguy
hamsterdam
Footballguy
i think it was a charlie horse from a helmet to the thigh
Took a knee to the thigh. He addressed it after the game and said he’s a little banged up but nothing serious.
zamboni
Footballguy
From what I gather, he’s a very good blocker and even if it doesn’t show up on the stats sheet, is very valuable for Fields’ (and the RBs) rushing production.
I would hope the Bears would find a better use of their money. Kmet is JAG, he's a solid blocker that's true, but those grow on trees. If Poles thinks he's a "blue chip player" then I'm pretty concerned what this offseason will look like, because Kmet would be a #2 TE on most teams.
He was the #1 target for much of this season, I'd be very surprised if that were the case next year, with a healthy Mooney, and fully up to speed Claypool. That's not even accounting for another addition.
I think his 2022 is pretty close to his ceiling.
Kind of a silly title because you can use the same headline for every Bears receiver.
4/50 contract extension.
I've never been impressed by Kmet, and while sure he hasn't had ideal conditions, he's never really shown anything. He's not bad, but he's just kinda decent. This is top-8 TE money, for a guy with 1399 yards and 9 TDs in 3 seasons.
ETA: Feel like he's going to be less productive this year regardless of how well Fields plays, as he's going from often being the #1 target to possibly being the #4.
I've never been impressed by Kmet, and while sure he hasn't had ideal conditions, he's never really shown anything. He's not bad, but he's just kinda decent. This is top-8 TE money, for a guy with 1399 yards and 9 TDs in 3 seasons.
ETA: Feel like he's going to be less productive this year regardless of how well Fields plays, as he's going from often being the #1 target to possibly being the #4.
I get RB values are low, but it does seem really wrong to me that Kmet basically just signed the same deal Derrick Henry signed a couple years ago.
I'm not on the RBs are underpaid bandwagon, but looking at the salaries of TEs, I'm starting to think TEs that aren't top guys (Kmet, H. Henry, Knox) and even guys like Njoku and Engram are pretty overpaid in comparison to the top RBs.
I get Kelce, Kittle, Andrews, and even guys like Goedert and Waller making that much, but its wild that CMC and Kamara are the only RBs making more than guys like Kmet, H. Henry and Knox, there is no way those guys are more valuable players than say Ekeler, or Jacobs.
InDitkaWeTrust
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This really depends on how Eberflus decides to use him in the offense. My expectations for the season are at least a 50% increase in passing attemps, from a meager 22 per game to roughly the league average of 33. Target distribution should cascade from Moore to Mooney/Kmet to Claypool/Herbert and then leftovers. Breaking that down, I see Moore at ~10, Mooney and Kmet getting roughly 6 each, 8 between Herbert and Claypool and 3-4 spread between the rest of the recievers/backs.
My projections for Kmet this season are roughly 100 targets 75 catches for 750 yards and 7TDs which puts him in the TE 5-6 range. Is that production worth the kind of money he was given? I dunno. Given the number of solid TEs coming out in the past few years, I'm leaning toward no. Then again, it takes a solid 2-3 years for TEs to adjust to the NFL game. As that goes, I'm in...for now.
Terpman22
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Bears have made some interesting moves this offseason:
Sign 2 off ball LB's to pretty big deals when hardly anyone is paying LBs anymore
Pass on drafting Jalen Carter 2x
Sign an average Tight end to a contract extension putting him in the top 8 of tight end salaries.
You are a lot higher on Kmet than I am. Those numbers are basically what Mark Andrews did last year.
I think he stays about where he was last year, but with fewer TDs. I think he's a middling TE2 more in line with a guy like Gerald Everett. I think 80 targets and 60 catches is my expectation with like 4 TDs. Kmet had 1 game over 45 yards before Mooney got hurt.
I think Moore tops 1000 yards, and Mooney finishes 2nd in receiving. Claypool is a complete wildcard.
Boston
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Could not agree with this more...as for these good but nothing special TEs it is interesting because from a supply and demand lens I'm not sure why you need to give a TE like Kmet that much $ unless you are expecting a dramatic jump in production...blocking is always important but that is not difficult to find...I would not be surprised if Darnell Washington isn't considered elite in that area by the end of the year and the Steelers just got him in the third round...you would think if you were shelling out real $ you would be looking for a legit weapon in the passing game.
ZWK
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This is the 11th biggest current TE contract in amt per year. (The dollar amount, $12.5M/yr, is tied for 9th-11th with Jonnu Smith & Hunter Henry's 2021 deals, but as a percentage of the cap it's actually closer to #12 Zach Ertz's $10.55M/yr deal).
Here's how it slots in relative to other TE contracts signed this year or last year.
$17.0M/yr Darren Waller (2024-26)
$13.8M/yr Evan Engram (2023-25)
$13.7M/yr David Njoku (2022-25)
$13.0M/yr Dawson Knox (2023-26)
$12.5M/yr Cole Kmet (2024-27)
$10.6M/yr Zach Ertz (2022-24)
$8.0M/yr CJ Uzomah (2022-24)
$8.0M/yr Will Dissly (2022-24)
$7.3M/yr Hayden Hurst (2023-25)
$7.0M/yr Josh Oliver (2023-25)
$6.8M/yr Tyler Conklin (2022-24)
$6.3M/yr Dalton Schultz (2023)
$6.0M/yr Gerald Everett (2022-23)
$6.0M/yr Juwan Johnson (2023-24)
Here's how it slots in relative to other TE contracts signed this year or last year.
$17.0M/yr Darren Waller (2024-26)
$13.8M/yr Evan Engram (2023-25)
$13.7M/yr David Njoku (2022-25)
$13.0M/yr Dawson Knox (2023-26)
$12.5M/yr Cole Kmet (2024-27)
$10.6M/yr Zach Ertz (2022-24)
$8.0M/yr CJ Uzomah (2022-24)
$8.0M/yr Will Dissly (2022-24)
$7.3M/yr Hayden Hurst (2023-25)
$7.0M/yr Josh Oliver (2023-25)
$6.8M/yr Tyler Conklin (2022-24)
$6.3M/yr Dalton Schultz (2023)
$6.0M/yr Gerald Everett (2022-23)
$6.0M/yr Juwan Johnson (2023-24)
The Frankman
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NajehHejan
Footballguy
I raged dropped Pitts for Kmet. Much better opportunity:
Less competition for targets amongst all possible pass catchers
Crappier D will favor pass happy game script
Better QB (gulp)
No Jonnu Smith
No Arthur Smith
Choo choo!
Less competition for targets amongst all possible pass catchers
Crappier D will favor pass happy game script
Better QB (gulp)
No Jonnu Smith
No Arthur Smith
Choo choo!
Haha I drafted him and dropped him early because he hadnt done anything. Somebody else got him off the waiver wire and dropped him last week. Now in here stuck with Pits making a decent size WW for my previous draft pick. I suspect I will get him and end up dropping him again. He doesnt seem to do well under my coaching it seems. So then I will drop him and the other dude will pay to pick him up. Im pretty sure we are in a race to see how much faab money we can spend and get nothing out of him lol
Ilov80s
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The more I look into this guy and his blocking, underlying numbers and wonder if he's a pretty underrated player?
24.5, 2nd round pick, explosive linear athlete, ideal size, early producer with a good track record, strong efficiency numbers.
He sure seems like a guy who is in the TE 5-9 range and given his age, likely to be ascending still.
24.5, 2nd round pick, explosive linear athlete, ideal size, early producer with a good track record, strong efficiency numbers.
He sure seems like a guy who is in the TE 5-9 range and given his age, likely to be ascending still.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
And a guy, that for some reason is still available in my fairly competitor league on the wire.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
So this week I have Kittle on bye and I was planning on just adding either Parham or Everett Monday to play. A guy in my league has Pierce and due to byes, nobody to replace him with. He offered me Kmet for Singletary. I get that the RB is much more valuable than TE but for me Kmet could actually be an answer at TE if something happens to Kittle. It's really hard for me to see how my team is winning if I have to rely on Devin Singletary beyond a 1 or 2 week fill-in. Considering both my lead RBs have had their byes already, I snap accepted the trade despite the positional value.
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