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TE Colston Loveland, CHI (2 Viewers)
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socrates
Footballguy
I don't think there is much of a gap between Warren and Loveland. I have them both as Tier 1 Tight Ends. With the right draft destination, Loveland could easily vault ahead of Warren.@Profiler_Now
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Michigan TE Colston Loveland was the TE1 in the 2025 class heading into the season, but was impaired by inconsistent play at QB
Could he still overtake Tyler Warren with a strong combine/pro day
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Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
Tyler Warren is too old...took too long to produce which is a huge red flag, and never missed a season like Kelce did because of injury.
There's going to be a huge gap between Warren, Loveland and Fannin, but of course landing spot is everything for a TE.
There's going to be a huge gap between Warren, Loveland and Fannin, but of course landing spot is everything for a TE.
FairWarning
Footballguy
Loveland was able to produce, even though he was the only viable option Mich had. Amazing he did as well as he did, considering the qbs Mich was trotting out there/
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Thanks for dropping that Warren age nugget, I did not know that, seems like he'll be 25 next season from what I could gather, is that what you got? Not ideal. It's hard to unsee the great year he had plus the size and versatility but at the same time hard not examine it in the context that when he was 23 and Theo Johnson was 22 they shared the TE spot and not a huge difference in production and I'm not a huge Theo Johhnson guy. That age is no death sentence but it's a factor especially when he'll be 3-4 years older then what I anticipate being the 3 other TE's going round 1 into early round two.
On that note I think Fannin is going to be TE5 in the real NFL draft and my prediction is Taylor and Arroyo will be closer to TE2 then Fannin will be to them.
Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
I only target TEs that were the #1 receiver for their college team. Out of all these tight ends the past 20 years, I think Jimmy Graham is the only outlier, Irv Smith is the norm. You want to find the common denominator between Witten, Gronk, Mark Andrews, Kittle, Mcbride, Bowers, Laporta, Kelce etc...Trust me.. Arroyo and Taylor are most likely NOT it.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yes, and you could see the difference in the offense when he wasn't on the field. Denver is the landing spot per a couple mocks, seems like a good fit with Nix.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
You might be right, I don’t plan to draft either as I’ll get Warren or Loveland.
Tex
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Feels like a surge of great TE prospects into the NFL
La Porta and Bowers recently
This year we have 2 possible 1st rounders with Warren from Penn State and now Loveland, nice opportunity for some teams to expand their playbook and offense
La Porta and Bowers recently
This year we have 2 possible 1st rounders with Warren from Penn State and now Loveland, nice opportunity for some teams to expand their playbook and offense
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Bowers looks like the real deal, LaPorta just didn't see as many targets after a sensational rookie season, think we might see him bounce back in 2025
I always like proven over unproven
Bowers
Laporta
Warren
Loveland
Until we see all 4 on the field especially the 2 rookies.
Bowers doesn't have other amazing skill guys to share the ball and he also didn't have much at QB so i think he will look even better than he already does
This guy is either grossly overrating Marvin Mims or grossly underrating Matthew Golden. I don't see this comparison making sense at all.
I've been finding myself thinking similarly of late. I think Loveland's ceiling is a lot higher than Warren's.
I have Loveland over Warren now but close enough landing spots matter. If one of them for instance get the Bears and the other gets the Colts that's a huge difference.
I'd add I've heard in the last few days the Bronco's would pass on Loveland even if he is available due to medical concerns, they probably are not alone.
Regarding where they all go in the draft I'm starting to think these two in particular might be getting mocked a little to high. I think part of the reason is teams like Jets and Colts need TE so it makes sense when doing a mock but those teams likely know they got solid TE options in round 2 and maybe round into round 3.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I don't get what this Hayden Winks guy is saying:
According to google AI:
I think having a mismatch at any offensive position will work in the NFL just as well as in college.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yes, landing spot will be key. Could be a huge jump in terms of QB quality, he really wasn't working with anyone last year yet you still saw the ability.
I think what he's saying, and what I'm seeing too, is that Loveland ran more high-end NFL TE routes. The type of routes guys like Travis Kelce runs. Tyler Warren ran a lot of manufactured stuff, screens, quick outs, things of that nature, which pump up his stats a lot. Bowers ran a lot of that too, but he also had the Kelce-ish stuff. Warren doesn't really have that on his tape. That's not to say he can't do it, just that he hasn't shown it, because Penn State didn't really ask him to do that. Basically, while Warren was better numbers wise, that's because Penn State had a way better passing game, and its easier to scheme touches to a TE (or RB) than a WR. Its possible (and in Winks opinion likely) that a lot of what Warren did would be done by a RB or Slot WR in the NFL, because these guys will usually be better athletes than Warren.
Loveland's numbers were lower than Warren's because Michigan fell apart with Harbaugh and a bunch of NFL talent leaving the offense. Michigan only threw for 1,678 yards last season, and Loveland had 582 of it, which is 35%. Meanwhile Drew Allar looks like a potential 1st round QB next year, and threw for 3,646 yards, of which Warren had 1,233 of, good for 34%.
I like both TEs and think they should both be gone by the mid 1st round, but Loveland seems like the better athlete, and the one with higher potential. Warren seems like the one who might be better right now, but its again tough to judge because they played pretty different roles, in pretty different offenses.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Who will be the first to say pucker up
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Can I borrow someone’s chapstick? I’m not surprised he is the first TE selected
Faust
MVP
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With the No. 10 overall pick in the 2025 @NFLDraft, the @ChicagoBears select Colston Loveland. @NewEraCap
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Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
Different offense now.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I hate beats…..I mean beets
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I love the pick. It was the right value spot IMO.
beef
Footballguy
NFC North also calls them the Byes.
Max Power
Footballguy
Ben Johnson hasn't had two fantasy relevant TEs either
