TE Dallas Goedert, PHI (1 Viewer)

[travdogg]

the bigger question is what happened to Wentz?  He looked to be top qb a couple years back and now looks lost.

To be fair, they have faced two pretty great pass rushes these first 2 games, with a banged up o-line. I think Wentz will rebound, probably against the Bengals this week, just like Mayfield did. 

I never felt Wentz was an elite QB, but he's solid, and I think he's a decent buy-low right now. He might even hit some waiver wires in some leagues.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I've never been a fan. I went into the Eagles team thread and suggested the team would replace Wentz with Hurts sooner than anybody thinks. That wasn't received well. Going to Hurts would kill Goedert's value. 

A trade two teams should consider in the off-season would be Matt Ryan-for-Carson Wentz...and some combination of draft assets

 

[Deamon]

A trade two teams should consider in the off-season would be Matt Ryan-for-Carson Wentz...and some combination of draft assets

Why would either team do that?  Trades like this never happen.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Why would either team do that?  Trades like this never happen.

True...but both QB’s could benefit from a change of scenery me thinks.  And Ryan’s from the area.

 

[Milkman]

It didn't look bad but he's not back. Guess he's done. 

 

[Alex P Keaton]

It didn't look bad but he's not back. Guess he's done. 

What happened?

 

[Faust]

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

After limping off the field, Eagles’ TE Dallas Goedert headed to the locker room with a left foot injury.

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1310270597470056454?s=21

 

[Faust]

Updating a previous report, Dallas Goedert (ankle) returned to Week 3 against the Bengals.

Goedert missed multiple Eagles drives after heading to the locker room with an ankle injury. He eventually returned to the field but was not targeted on his first drive back in action. The Eagles are without Jalen Reagor (thumb) and Alshon Jeffery (foot) so Goedert's return is crucial to them putting up points. He leads the team in all receiving categories with 12 catches for 131 yards and a score.

SOURCE: Jeff Skversky on Twitter

Sep 27, 2020, 1:51 PM ET

 

[Faust]

Eagles TE Dallas Goedert (ankle) won't return for Week 3 against the Bengals.

The Eagles are dealing with a rash of injuries to their skill position players. DeSean Jackson is also dealing with a hamstring injury that has kept him out since halftime. They normally run 2TE sets at one of the highest rates in the league but would now be forced to do so with Zach Ertz and Richard Rodgers. 

SOURCE: Jeff Skversky on Twitter

Sep 27, 2020, 2:20 PM ET

 

[Milkman]

Saw on twitter it's a high ankle sprain and he's expected to miss some time. Probably out a month plus. 

 

[Milkman]

What happened?

I didn't see it buddy. Srry

 

[travdogg]

Saw on twitter it's a high ankle sprain and he's expected to miss some time. Probably out a month plus. 

Is there a limit to IR spots? Feels like the Eagles are like 20% practice squad players right now.

 

[zeeshan2]

Eagles TE Dallas Goedert is going to miss "some time" after suffering an ankle injury in Week 3 against the Bengals. 

Goedert caught just one pass before limping to the sideline with the injury. He didn't return in the second half. NBC's John Clark didn't offer a specific time table for Goedert's return, only saying he'd "miss some time."

https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1310386307626041344

 

[Faust]

NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports Dallas Goedert (ankle) is expected to miss "at least a couple weeks."

The Eagles won't hit their bye until Week 9, leaving Goedert ample time to return to the field before an extended break. With DeSean Jackson (hamstring), Jalen Reagor (thumb), and Alshon Jeffery still on the mend, Zach Ertz logically projects for double-digit targets per game in the short-term with both John Hightower and Greg Ward entering the team's starting lineup. Richard Rodgers is the only other available tight end for the Eagles at this time.

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter

Sep 29, 2020, 9:37 AM ET

 

[zamboni]

Any fantasy value with Rodgers?

Only if there’s a game ending Hail Mary involved.

 

[Faust]

Eagles placed TE Dallas Goedert on injured reserve with an ankle injury. 

Per NFL Network's Mike Garafolo, there's "hope" Goedert is ready when first eligible in three weeks. It's a catastrophic blow for the Eagles' injury-ravaged, sinking-stone offense. They are so desperate that Goedert's corresponding roster move was signing Hakeem Butler and converting him to tight end. Goedert's absence once again thrusts Ertz into every-week top-four status at tight end. Goedert is worth holding onto even in leagues without injured reserve spots. 

Sep 29, 2020, 3:04 PM ET

 

[Krilons Resa]

Has anyone seen a realistic timeline on this injury? 

I've seen up to 6-8 weeks.

 

[skillz]

Anyone hearing anything on when he may return?  There doesn't seem to be anything out there which leads me to believe it's not anytime soon.

 

[Insein]

Earliest he can come back is week 7 due to the IR. Haven't heard any specifics though. 

 

[heckmanm]

 

[menobrown]

Has anyone seen a realistic timeline on this injury? 

I've seen up to 6-8 weeks.

I would plan on week 10, feel confident it won't be later, small chance sooner.

Profootballdoc(Chao) put his timeline in the moderate high ankle sprain territory. That sounds positive but he then noted he expected him to return to play in November.

Even if Profootballdoc had not said November when you look at their current schedule it sure seems to put him on path for week 10.

He's not eligible to come of IR until week 7.

Eagles week 7 game is Thursday so 6 days from now  If he's healthy he could technically get activated after Monday and get a day or two of practice in but IMO he'd have to have recovered extremely quickly to make that timeline, which would put him suiting up  3.5 weeks post injury.

Week 8 is November 1 so that's the pushing it to meet Chao's November timeline but the real issue  becomes that it's their week before the bye. As we know the Eagles can't afford to take weeks for granted but coming off an injury like this it sure seems if they can give him 7 full weeks to recover instead of 5 that seems more likely.

Week 9 is a bye, as currently scheduled anyway.

Week 10, 7 weeks post injury is when I expect to see him return.

Seeing how bad Ertz has looked has only made his loss sting more but between Goederts first two weeks usage and how Ertz has looked I think we've moved on from Ertz being in his way as being the #1TE on this team.

 

[Deamon]

I would plan on week 10, feel confident it won't be later, small chance sooner.

Profootballdoc(Chao) put his timeline in the moderate high ankle sprain territory. That sounds positive but he then noted he expected him to return to play in November.

Even if Profootballdoc had not said November when you look at their current schedule it sure seems to put him on path for week 10.

He's not eligible to come of IR until week 7.

Eagles week 7 game is Thursday so 6 days from now  If he's healthy he could technically get activated after Monday and get a day or two of practice in but IMO he'd have to have recovered extremely quickly to make that timeline, which would put him suiting up  3.5 weeks post injury.

Week 8 is November 1 so that's the pushing it to meet Chao's November timeline but the real issue  becomes that it's their week before the bye. As we know the Eagles can't afford to take weeks for granted but coming off an injury like this it sure seems if they can give him 7 full weeks to recover instead of 5 that seems more likely.

Week 9 is a bye, as currently scheduled anyway.

Week 10, 7 weeks post injury is when I expect to see him return.

Seeing how bad Ertz has looked has only made his loss sting more but between Goederts first two weeks usage and how Ertz has looked I think we've moved on from Ertz being in his way as being the #1TE on this team.

This.

 

[Faust]

Eagles’ Dallas Goedert, Jalen Reagor eligible to return from injured reserve in Week 7 | What it could mean for roster

Excerpt:

Following the Eagles' loss against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday, Goedert and Reagor are eligible to return to the lineup. The Eagles can activate their 21-day practice windows as of Monday.

That said, as the Eagles showed with both wide receiver Quez Watkins and safety Will Parks, just because a player is eligible to return doesn’t mean they actually will immediately. Watkins had his practice window activated immediately but he was forced to wait two weeks before making his debut. Alternatively, Parks was eligible to return in Week 4 but didn’t have his practice window activated until Week 6. Parks returned to the active roster on Saturday.

Goedert’s ankle fracture could take more time to heal. Or, the Eagles could decide to ease him into practice for a week or two before bringing him back to action.

The same could be said for Reagor, who underwent surgery on his thumb in Week 3. With a short week heading into the Thursday Night Football matchup with the Giants, it’s likely that the Eagles take their time with both injured players.

As of now, the Eagles have been using Zach Ertz and Richard Rodgers as their top tight end tandem. Ertz has struggled as of late, but caught four passes for 33 yards against the Ravens. That said, he left in the second half and didn’t return due to an ankle injury.

Rodgers has done a serviceable job in Goedert’s absence, catching nine passes for 99 yards since replacing the former second-round pick against the Bengals. The Eagles have also elevated practice-squad tight end Jason Croom in each of the past two weeks, despite having project receiver-turned-tight end Hakeem Butler on the main roster.

If Goedert can return to the lineup, he will give the offense a big boost. He is among the best blocking tight ends in the league, and his downfield prowess as a receiver has gotten better each year. While he may not be able to return to the lineup immediately, Goedert’s renewed eligibility is at least positive news for an otherwise struggling franchise.

 

[Faust]

Dallas Goedert Fantasy Outlook: Is he a must-add in fantasy for Week 7?

 

[Faust]

Jeff McLane @Jeff_McLane

#Eagles Tue Walkthrough Report (an estimation):

DNP: Driscoll (ankle), Ertz (ankle), M Jackson (quadricep), Sanders (knee), Wallace (shoulder).
    
LIMITED: Epps (rib), D Jackson (hamstring), Jeffery (foot), L Johnson (ankle), Maddox (ankle), Riley (rib).

https://twitter.com/jeff_mclane/status/1318648859841712133?s=21
 

Erik Negley @enegs_5

No estimations for goedert or reagor?

https://twitter.com/enegs_5/status/1318656430854066177?s=21

Jeff McLane @Jeff_McLane

They’re still on IR.

https://twitter.com/jeff_mclane/status/1318657012331315205?s=21

 

[Ilov80s]

I don’t think he comes back until after the Eagles bye

 

[Team Smokin']

I don’t think he comes back until after the Eagles bye

Darn NFL Network just gave him Kudos - the cat is out of the bag. All that I read seemed to think he was another 1-2 weeks away so I held off last week. I do need a bye week fill in for Andrews, but is Goedert ready yet?

 

[Ilov80s]

Darn NFL Network just gave him Kudos - the cat is out of the bag. All that I read seemed to think he was another 1-2 weeks away so I held off last week. I do need a bye week fill in for Andrews, but is Goedert ready yet?

I am basing this entirely on some doctor who does fantasy stuff but he said the only way he ended up on IR was high ankle, fracture or very significant sprain. He doesn't think it is likely Goedert plays until after their bye given the timetable and sense it makes to utilize the bye to fully recover. 

 

[kyoun1e]

I am basing this entirely on some doctor who does fantasy stuff but he said the only way he ended up on IR was high ankle, fracture or very significant sprain. He doesn't think it is likely Goedert plays until after their bye given the timetable and sense it makes to utilize the bye to fully recover. 

If that's the case then Goedert and Ertz are back...together...basically at the same time. Grrrrr.

 

[Super King]

If that's the case then Goedert and Ertz are back...together...basically at the same time. Grrrrr.

Ertz is toast though. 

 

[cockroach]

Ertz is toast though.

This season, Ertz is averaging 2.8 yards of separation between him and his defender when the ball has come his way either for a completion or an incompletion, according to NFL Next Gen Stats. To put that in perspective, Kelce is averaging 3.0 yards of separation, and the 2.8 yards of separation is slightly more than Ertz averaged last season (2.7).

It is also pretty on par for what he has averaged in his career:

2020: 2.8 yards

2019: 2.7 yards

2018: 3.2 yards

2017: 2.9 yards

2016: 3.2 yards

Some seasons have been slightly higher than others, but overall, Ertz is getting the same level of separation he always has.
https://www.radio.com/94wip/sports/eagles/the-2-reasons-eagles-zach-ertz-is-off-to-a-slow-start

 

[Deamon]

If that's the case then Goedert and Ertz are back...together...basically at the same time. Grrrrr.

I'm pretty confident that either way,  you're gonna get 1-2 games of just Goedert and no Ertz.

 

[Super King]

Well, I guess I'm wrong. 

 

[Keith1]

Just scooped him up off waivers last night. Not expecting him to play this week, but hoping for next week. 

 

[Team Smokin']

Got him in one league, got outbid in another. Sure seems like he's got a lil more healing to go given the broken bone status along with the mid to high ankle sprain. Now, if he's activated for this game who's playing him? I've got Andrews on bye and Goedert ready to go otherwise it's one of the Texans TE's. 

FBG's both rank him TE #4 for this week. Wow - really. He plays?

 

[Insein]

Game is tomorrow and it still shows him as IR on my bench. Not sure where they are coming up with these rankings.

 

[The Frankman]

? I have yet to see anything that says he's been taken off IR. Hell I have yet to see him practice. The IR designation is a procedural move and can be done game day if need be. I'm in the camp that thinks he's not coming off IR this week unless he can get a Full in.

 

[skinsrule05]

Given the process of getting him off IR and into the starting lineup what is the latest we would know for tomorrow's game?

 

[johnnyboy8102]

Hoping he plays next week at this point. If not, if he isn’t back until after the bye Ertz can be back as well. 

 

[gruecd]

When he's back do we seem him as being flex-worthy over somebody like Fulgham or Phillip Lindsay?

 

[Keith1]

If he's playing, he is a top 10 TE & if you have a better TE option then he is absolutely flex worthy

given Philly's lack of weaponry, I think he is better than a top 10 TE (especially if Ertz is out of the picture). 

 

[Insein]

Not expected until after the bye according to Garafolo. 

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

Damn. I picked him up in one league hoping he'd play in the next couple of weeks and I could trade him off.

 

[The Frankman]

That's fine. Ertz will still be out so he's walking into a Top 7 TE type of role IMHO.

 

[Deamon]

I still don't understand how the game is tonight and @Maurile Tremblay still has him as a top TE start this week.  Not trying to rag on you guys as I love your rankings, this one just seems weird as there was no indication all week that he was practicing or coming off of IR, and even @David Dodds had him ranked high for this week until this morning (and still has some points for him projected this week)

 

 

[Insein]

I still don't understand how the game is tonight and @Maurile Tremblay still has him as a top TE start this week.  Not trying to rag on you guys as I love your rankings, this one just seems weird as there was no indication all week that he was practicing or coming off of IR, and even @David Dodds had him ranked high for this week until this morning (and still has some points for him projected this week)

 

Yea not sure what they heard. 

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I still don't understand how the game is tonight and @Maurile Tremblay still has him as a top TE start this week.

I don't have an answer to this. I had Goedert listed as out all week in my notes. I don't know why he wasn't zeroed in my upload to the site -- I obviously did something stupid.

 

[Deamon]

I don't have an answer to this. I had Goedert list as out all week in my notes. I don't know why he wasn't zeroed in my upload to the site -- I obviously did something stupid.

Ah ok.  Didn't mean to call you out, just was wondering if you knew something we didn't, and found it odd how you and Dodds both had points for him when he was still on IR.  But that makes sense, thanks!

 

[Down Under]

 

[tricky92]

What does this mean? I've seen it several times and can't figure it out by context. I feel like a ##### for asking, but the curiosity is getting the best of me...