TE Jonnu Smith, MIA (5 Viewers)

[Lansdowne]

Per multiple reports on the trade block and sounds like Steelers are front runners

I was considering trading for Jonnu in my dynasty league where I'm desperate for TE help, but I think I'll hold off on that. Big downgrade going to the Steelers offense where he'd split with Freiermuth.

 

[steelcityman]

or buy him cheap now, before he doesnt get traded to pittsburgh, but this news is making its way around the twittersphere.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Please god no.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Per multiple reports on the trade block and sounds like Steelers are front runners

I was considering trading for Jonnu in my dynasty league where I'm desperate for TE help, but I think I'll hold off on that. Big downgrade going to the Steelers offense where he'd split with Freiermuth.

Yes. I'd love it for Pittsburgh if it happened but makes projecting their TE situation for fantasy difficult.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Makes less than zero sense for the Steelers to want another TE. Have Patty F, and Washington, who they never use, lil Heyward can do TE things and added Parham in the offseason. Unless they think their WRs are so bad, Smith could line up as a WR. Or maybe its to get Miami on the line, and work out a deal for TJ Watt??????

And the Dolphins have about nothing at TE after Smith.

agree unless it's a te swap which I'd hope for since I have Pat D. and the idea of him catching passes from TUA until he gets a concussion is enticing.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

or buy him cheap now, before he doesnt get traded to pittsburgh, but this news is making its way around the twittersphere.

This.

 

[menobrown]

or buy him cheap now, before he doesnt get traded to pittsburgh, but this news is making its way around the twittersphere.

This.

I dunno, unless he works it out with the Dolphins any other place is a little to a whole lot worse. There is a reason he was an 8th year breakout and if goes back to the role/usage he had his first 7 years he's hardly worth wasting a roster spot on.

In other words going to Pittsburgh is not the potential issue. Any scenario he leaves Miami is god awful for him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Any scenario he leaves Miami is god awful for him.

I can think of a couple teams where it could be more of a lateral, but in general I agree. That said, I'm a little bit skeptical the Dolphins move him. He was a pretty integral part of their offense last year.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Man, thinking more about this, such a move might send the 'Muth truthers out there off a cliff. I remember offering a future 1st for 'Muth at one point in a TE-P league a couple of years back and not only being rejected, but in such a way that questioned my sanity for even offering.


Anyway, hopefully this is smoke with no fire and Jonnu stays with the Dolphins. Dude was literally their only pro-bowler last year.

 

[travdogg]

Man, thinking more about this, such a move might send the 'Muth truthers out there off a cliff. I remember offering a future 1st for 'Muth at one point in a TE-P league a couple of years back and not only being rejected, but in such a way that questioned my sanity for even offering.


Anyway, hopefully this is smoke with no fire and Jonnu stays with the Dolphins. Dude was literally their only pro-bowler last year.

Jonnu is a tough call, because he's a pretty limited TE. He's only good against zone defenses, when he's schemed touches. Its why he didn't work out in NE at all. He's not a good route runner, and most offenses aren't gonna accommodate that like Miami did last year, and its arguable it was to their detriment, and they should have been scheming more to Hill/Waddle, even if it was shorter stuff.

I will say it could speak to what the Steelers want in the position though. Jonnu is WAY better than Muth after the catch. Muth is a better blocker, and 3 years younger so a swap could make sense for both sides. Darnell Washington also is a bit of a RAC guy, so maybe that's more the direction they want to go at the position, but they also just extended Freiermuth so...?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Man, thinking more about this, such a move might send the 'Muth truthers out there off a cliff. I remember offering a future 1st for 'Muth at one point in a TE-P league a couple of years back and not only being rejected, but in such a way that questioned my sanity for even offering.


Anyway, hopefully this is smoke with no fire and Jonnu stays with the Dolphins. Dude was literally their only pro-bowler last year.

Jonnu is a tough call, because he's a pretty limited TE. He's only good against zone defenses, when he's schemed touches. Its why he didn't work out in NE at all. He's not a good route runner, and most offenses aren't gonna accommodate that like Miami did last year, and its arguable it was to their detriment, and they should have been scheming more to Hill/Waddle, even if it was shorter stuff.

I will say it could speak to what the Steelers want in the position though. Jonnu is WAY better than Muth after the catch. Muth is a better blocker, and 3 years younger so a swap could make sense for both sides. Darnell Washington also is a bit of a RAC guy, so maybe that's more the direction they want to go at the position, but they also just extended Freiermuth so...?

Interesting. Hadn’t thought of it in the context of a TE for TE swap.

I’d still hate it.

 

[steelcityman]

Woke up to Terry McLaurin to the Steelers talk today. Following the Steelers is a full time job, and its getting kind of ridiculous.

 

[jtd13]

As a fins fan, I say ship him for Washington and a 5th or something like that.
As a jonnu owner in a tep league where I swung and missed with guys like Pitts and Kincaid and he saved my bacon last year, I say please stay in Miami.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Woke up to Terry McLaurin to the Steelers talk today.

Please god no, pt 2: the electric boogaloo

 

[Soulfly3]

Woke up to Terry McLaurin to the Steelers talk today. Following the Steelers is a full time job, and its getting kind of ridiculous.

Washington trading him is as likely as Rodgers being sponsored by Pfizer.

 

[ffmail4me]

Woke up to Terry McLaurin to the Steelers talk today. Following the Steelers is a full time job, and its getting kind of ridiculous.

Washington trading him is as likely as Rodgers being sponsored by Pfizer.

Spot on. Terry is the face of the franchise; they love him off the field as much as what he does on it. He will retire a Redskin/Commander, book it!

 

[steelcityman]

Woke up to Terry McLaurin to the Steelers talk today. Following the Steelers is a full time job, and its getting kind of ridiculous.

Washington trading him is as likely as Rodgers being sponsored by Pfizer.

Yeah, I have no idea where that even came from, but i think once it made its round on the local media, people knew it was BS.

 

[Faust]

Drew Rosenhaus: Dolphins TE Jonnu Smith would 'definitely like to stay in Miami' amid trade chatter

 

[steelcityman]

Sounds like Steelers, or better yet the media, are off the J Smith trade bus, and the Steelers are hosting Gabe Davis for a visit this week. oh JOY!!!

 

[menobrown]

are off the J Smith trade bus

The Steelers appear to be out but other then that nothing changed from Shefters initial post saying Miami was seeking a trade partner.

It's actually kind of funny to me that Rosenhaus comment's that Jonnu would prefer to remain in Miami seemed to make some people think the trade talk had blown over but in Shefters initial tweet on this he specifically said that Jonnu prefference was to remain in Miami so Drew really did not say anything new.

So seems to me money remains the issue, I'd guess Steelers could not work out agreements with Jonnu on the deal and/or Miami on terms, but if Miami does not give him the deal he wants a trade is still very likely to go down.

 

[Faust]

Mike McDaniel says Jonnu Smith is 'very important' to offense, hopes TE remains with Dolphins

 

[Faust]

Source: Steelers renew talks with Dolphins TE Jonnu Smith

 

[Faust]

What will the Dolphins do with TE Jonnu Smith?