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TE Michael Mayer, LV (1 Viewer)

socrates said:
This is no doubt a disappointing development if you are holding shares of Mayer. However, there is some hope that Mayer is the Gronk to Bowers' Hernandez. I am buying shares of Mayer if they drop.
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I feel like they did drop. I watched a ton of Mayer in college and the kid is amazing. Talent is there... the situation though...

I'd buy for the right price. Which I'm is feeling in the range of a prospect WR, RB4-5 range, maybe late 3rd.
 
socrates said:
This is no doubt a disappointing development if you are holding shares of Mayer. However, there is some hope that Mayer is the Gronk to Bowers' Hernandez. I am buying shares of Mayer if they drop.
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Slim hope indeed. I can’t think of any other examples of two fantasy relevant TEs on the same team.
 
socrates said:
This is no doubt a disappointing development if you are holding shares of Mayer. However, there is some hope that Mayer is the Gronk to Bowers' Hernandez. I am buying shares of Mayer if they drop.
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Mayer's talent hasn't changed. He was still an early 2nd round pick. For my context, I'm locked and loaded at TE and currently carrying too many of them. I can keep 19 of 24 into our 12-team draft of a non-TE premium league.

I think I'm dropping both Kraft and Mayer. Noah Gray and Noah Fant are other free agents in my league that I find somewhat compelling, and it feels like any of these guys are more likely to pop before Mayer, even if Mayer is the best talent. If his circumstances allow me to scoop him back up at the price of a 4th or 5th in the rookie/free agent draft, I might still be in at that price.

FWIW, it seems like Waldman has always been "out" on Mayer's fantasy upside.
 
The Future Champs said:
socrates said:
This is no doubt a disappointing development if you are holding shares of Mayer. However, there is some hope that Mayer is the Gronk to Bowers' Hernandez. I am buying shares of Mayer if they drop.
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Slim hope indeed. I can’t think of any other examples of two fantasy relevant TEs on the same team.
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Bill Belichick was attempting to build an offensive scheme built around two tight ends who both could have been very fantasy football relevant with Robert Gronkowski as the inline weapon and with Aaron Hernandez as the joker/offensive weapon/movable chess piece. It would have worked IMHO if not for the incredible criminal meltdown that Hernandez had.

The problem here for the Raiders is that they don’t have a Tom Brady at QB, Michael Mayer is not a Gronk level talent, and there are unknown questions about whether Luke Getsy can develop a creative scheme to make both players viable for most leagues to draft and be able to start both players for fantasy football purposes.
 
#RIP

crazy to look back 2 years and this dude was seen “the next great NFL TE out of Notre Dame”

Now he’s gonna get passed up on his own team. Yikes.
 
Faust said:
The Future Champs said:
socrates said:
This is no doubt a disappointing development if you are holding shares of Mayer. However, there is some hope that Mayer is the Gronk to Bowers' Hernandez. I am buying shares of Mayer if they drop.
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Slim hope indeed. I can’t think of any other examples of two fantasy relevant TEs on the same team.
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Bill Belichick was attempting to build an offensive scheme built around two tight ends who both could have been very fantasy football relevant with Robert Gronkowski as the inline weapon and with Aaron Hernandez as the joker/offensive weapon/movable chess piece. It would have worked IMHO if not for the incredible criminal meltdown that Hernandez had.

The problem here for the Raiders is that they don’t have a Tom Brady at QB, Michael Mayer is not a Gronk level talent, and there are unknown questions about whether Luke Getsy can develop a creative scheme to make both players viable for most leagues to draft and be able to start both players for fantasy football purposes.
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Excellent points. Mayer is not a Gronk-level talent. However, Mayer could fill the role in the offense of a traditional in-line TE, with Bowers filling the OW role. I am not sure Bowers' presence automatically means that Mayer is sidelined. I do not have great confidence in the Raiders' coaching staff or their QB play. Still, those elements are likely to push Mayer's value down, making the price palatable. You are not going to get the next Gronk at that price, but I believe Mayer is talented and may have some value, even with Bowers in the fold.
 
socrates said:
Faust said:
The Future Champs said:
socrates said:
This is no doubt a disappointing development if you are holding shares of Mayer. However, there is some hope that Mayer is the Gronk to Bowers' Hernandez. I am buying shares of Mayer if they drop.
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Slim hope indeed. I can’t think of any other examples of two fantasy relevant TEs on the same team.
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Bill Belichick was attempting to build an offensive scheme built around two tight ends who both could have been very fantasy football relevant with Robert Gronkowski as the inline weapon and with Aaron Hernandez as the joker/offensive weapon/movable chess piece. It would have worked IMHO if not for the incredible criminal meltdown that Hernandez had.

The problem here for the Raiders is that they don’t have a Tom Brady at QB, Michael Mayer is not a Gronk level talent, and there are unknown questions about whether Luke Getsy can develop a creative scheme to make both players viable for most leagues to draft and be able to start both players for fantasy football purposes.
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Excellent points. Mayer is not a Gronk-level talent. However, Mayer could fill the role in the offense of a traditional in-line TE, with Bowers filling the OW role. I am not sure Bowers' presence automatically means that Mayer is sidelined. I do not have great confidence in the Raiders' coaching staff or their QB play. Still, those elements are likely to push Mayer's value down, making the price palatable. You are not going to get the next Gronk at that price, but I believe Mayer is talented and may have some value, even with Bowers in the fold.
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Yeah, maybe value to the Raiders, but forget any fantasy value.
 
Non-material update but apparently at least his family is in contact with the team.

www.sportingnews.com

Some details about Michael Mayer's absence from Raiders revealed | Sporting News

Las Vegas Raiders tight end Michael Mayer has missed the last two games due to a personal matter. While some speculated his absence might be because he's unhappy with his role, that is reportedly not the case.
www.sportingnews.com www.sportingnews.com

I’m an ND fan and still believe he can be a really good pro. Most TEs take 2-3 to start to show what they can become. Was excited to see him take some next steps but the Bowers selection slowed that opportunity.

Hopefully whatever is causing his absence allows him back on the field this year soon and he’s ok. Solid player that still has a lot left to show.
 
Birdie048 said:
JohnnyU said:
Birdie048 said:
Interesting… I have been holding him as Bowers handcuff…
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I tend to never handcuff TEs, but IMO, the only ones that should have a stake in this are the Bowers owners, or ridiculously large rosters, but that's me.
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25 man roster & 3 IR slots make is easier
But if I drop him it would be for someone like deep RB sleeper Buf Ty Johnson or TB Sean Tucker
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I would rather have Sean Tucker long term if I weren't a Bowers owner and may anyway.
 
Well, MFL assigned IR - NFI and our rules allows me to put him on IR & pick up STucker.
But I still think Mayer has value. I don’t think I would just release him. Still a hold
 
Five key observations from 2025 Las Vegas Raiders minicamp

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TE Mayer could make a jump in Year 3​

Tight end Michael Mayer hasn't lived up to expectations thus far. But with offensive coordinator Chip Kelly calling plays, that could change.

In two seasons, Mayer, a second-round pick in 2023, has totaled 460 yards and two touchdowns on 48 catches. The former Notre Dame standout had just 21 catches for 156 yards as he was absent seven weeks last year for personal reasons.

Carroll had a heart-to-heart conversation with Mayer to lay out the expectations he has for Mayer and the rest of the team. He thought Mayer and second-year tight end Brock Bowers made plays on the field, creating optimism for the position group. During the second day of minicamp, Mayer made an impressive touchdown grab off a throw from Smith.

Las Vegas' offense opens up even more if Mayer is productive. It gives the Raiders a chance to play two tight end sets, allowing Mayer to reap the benefits of defenses being focused on Bowers.

"I think Mike's been outstanding," Kelly said. "And I checked, you can play with two tight ends in a game at the same time, and sometimes you can play with three tight ends they told me. So, maybe we can get to that if we have to."
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Faust said:
Five key observations from 2025 Las Vegas Raiders minicamp

Excerpt:

TE Mayer could make a jump in Year 3​

Tight end Michael Mayer hasn't lived up to expectations thus far. But with offensive coordinator Chip Kelly calling plays, that could change.

In two seasons, Mayer, a second-round pick in 2023, has totaled 460 yards and two touchdowns on 48 catches. The former Notre Dame standout had just 21 catches for 156 yards as he was absent seven weeks last year for personal reasons.

Carroll had a heart-to-heart conversation with Mayer to lay out the expectations he has for Mayer and the rest of the team. He thought Mayer and second-year tight end Brock Bowers made plays on the field, creating optimism for the position group. During the second day of minicamp, Mayer made an impressive touchdown grab off a throw from Smith.

Las Vegas' offense opens up even more if Mayer is productive. It gives the Raiders a chance to play two tight end sets, allowing Mayer to reap the benefits of defenses being focused on Bowers.

"I think Mike's been outstanding," Kelly said. "And I checked, you can play with two tight ends in a game at the same time, and sometimes you can play with three tight ends they told me. So, maybe we can get to that if we have to."
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I really liked him coming out of the draft - spent a 2d rder on him in TEP league which has been a waste so far - hanging on to see if he can show something this season. Not expecting TE1 numbers with Bowers but solid #2 would be nice.
 
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