Hankmoody
Footballguy
That's a terrible take. QB wasn't at all settled and there was no attempt to align "starters" to play together.
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TE Noah Fant, SEA (1 Viewer)
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He won't be a Top Two target on a low volume passing offense. If a TE doesn't get 90 or more targets, then the only path to Top 5 is 10 or more TDs. It's happened twice since 2014 and five times in the last 18 years. Of course that's if you want a Top 5 TE. If the target is Top 10 then you're basically saying you'll be content to outscore two of your league mates.
But even if he is somehow a Top Two target on Seattle, it probably doesn't matter.
The last three years in Denver (playing with the QB he was traded with to Seattle):
- 2019 - Emmanuel Sanders gets hurt so Courtland Sutton leads the team with 124 targets and Noah Fant is technically second with 66
- 2020 - Courtland Sutton tears his ACL. Jerry Jeudy leads the team in targets and Noah Fant is second with 93.
- 2021 - Jerry Jeudy missed seven games with an ankle injury. Fant finished second on the team with 90 targets.
He's playing on a team that will likely be below average in pace, YFS and touchdowns. He has scored 3, 4 and 4 TDs in his career.
He may be Top Ten. Personally I'm trying to draft TEs who have a reasonable chance at being Top 5.
Difference between TE5 and TE12:
- 2017 - 2.3 PPG (full PPR, minimum 10g played)
- 2018 - 3.0
- 2019 - 4.7
- 2020 - 2.5
- 2021 - 1.9
Timmay
Footballguy
I like your thought process BobbyLayne and appreciate the input. I am really banking on the fact that Seattle's defense is bad and the offense will be forced to throw. Garbage time points out the wazoo for Fant. Sadly when you wait on TE after the top tier guys, you are at least hoping the TE you do get comes in top 10 eoy.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Probably fairly underrated this year. If Seattle is tanking as we suspect, I could see Geno dumping off to the TE after coverage is rolled to Metcalf. Hard pass on Metcalf this year. You gotta think about it, last year people were fine with him and his QB situation.
Now, he's radioactive. His QB situation is almost the same or got better, except now he's on a team that doesn't have a Top 5 defense. If anything, I think his situation maybe got a little bit better compared to last year. Looks like Fant is a FA after this season too, that's another thing I like to look for. The more catches in 14+ point losses Fant gets, the more money his agent can negotiate for.
Now, he's radioactive. His QB situation is almost the same or got better, except now he's on a team that doesn't have a Top 5 defense. If anything, I think his situation maybe got a little bit better compared to last year. Looks like Fant is a FA after this season too, that's another thing I like to look for. The more catches in 14+ point losses Fant gets, the more money his agent can negotiate for.
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
Even if Geno dumps off passes to TE, will it even be Fant ? Or Will Dissly, who is a better blocker than Fant ? Seems like the entire Seattle offense is a hard pass this year. Unless either Penny or Walker suffers an injury, in which case the last man standing at RB would perform well. I mean Alex Collins was startable a few weeks for them recently. For dynasty purposes let's hope Seahawks draft a stud QB in 2023.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
I don't really understand his usage. He's a physical freak and all this short dink and dunk stuff really isn't taking advantage of his talents. I believed he was in for a big year, maybe he still is. Who knows.
The Frankman
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Fant seems like a ideal cheap buy for fantasy- especially dynasty. Things we know:
1. It's not impossible for a midcareer blossoming at TE. He is only 26.
2. He's in the 99th percentile when it comes to athleticism at the position
3. He's been semi-productive despite playing on low volume passing offenses. He has 2 low end TE1 seasons.
4. His efficiency numbers are good. Last year he was TE3 in yards per target and yards per catch, 5th in production premium. He hasn't produced like a 1st round pick, but he has produced.
5. The new Seattle OC comes from a high octane passing offense and while DK, JSN and Lockett are likely the top 3 targets there should be room for Fant to be a low end TE1. Plus there is the chance JSN doesn't deliver on expecations and Lockett is washed which gives Fant a little more ceiling than one might expect.
If you watch the highlights, it's easy to see the talent. Gamebreaking speed after the catch, destroys angles, good blocker, enough size that he's a tough challenge for DBs. This could be the year.
1. It's not impossible for a midcareer blossoming at TE. He is only 26.
2. He's in the 99th percentile when it comes to athleticism at the position
3. He's been semi-productive despite playing on low volume passing offenses. He has 2 low end TE1 seasons.
4. His efficiency numbers are good. Last year he was TE3 in yards per target and yards per catch, 5th in production premium. He hasn't produced like a 1st round pick, but he has produced.
5. The new Seattle OC comes from a high octane passing offense and while DK, JSN and Lockett are likely the top 3 targets there should be room for Fant to be a low end TE1. Plus there is the chance JSN doesn't deliver on expecations and Lockett is washed which gives Fant a little more ceiling than one might expect.
If you watch the highlights, it's easy to see the talent. Gamebreaking speed after the catch, destroys angles, good blocker, enough size that he's a tough challenge for DBs. This could be the year.
