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Ted Ginn Jr vs. Devin Hester (1 Viewer)

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D. Hester has a leg up already due to his awesome KR/PR year but who will have the better overall career? Ted Ginn seems to be destined for a KR/PR role as well. Could see WR action, but think KR/PR is where he will have the greatest chance to succeed.

 
Fallerjw said:
I think it would depend how you define it, but I would think Ginn has the big advantage here.
How?????????????? They'll both be great KRs. Anyone thinking Ginn is going to be a great WR is kidding themselves.
 
I'm going with Hester because he is redefining his position where I see Ginn being an average to slightly above average WR who most peopole will forget two years after he leaves the game.

 
I'm going with Hester because he is redefining his position where I see Ginn being an average to slightly above average WR who most peopole will forget two years after he leaves the game.
Hester completed his college career with a total of six touchdowns from kick returns, including one blocked field goal return. He also scored one rushing and receiving touchdown, and recorded five interceptions as a defensive back.Ginn finished his college career with 8 total return TDs. He also scored 15 receiving touchdowns.
Based on this, it seems like Ginn could have just as much impact in the return game as Hester with a chance to make some plays on offense as well. I could see how Ginn would have a better chance to have the better career.
 
I'm going with Hester because he is redefining his position where I see Ginn being an average to slightly above average WR who most peopole will forget two years after he leaves the game.
Hester completed his college career with a total of six touchdowns from kick returns, including one blocked field goal return. He also scored one rushing and receiving touchdown, and recorded five interceptions as a defensive back.Ginn finished his college career with 8 total return TDs. He also scored 15 receiving touchdowns.
Based on this, it seems like Ginn could have just as much impact in the return game as Hester with a chance to make some plays on offense as well. I could see how Ginn would have a better chance to have the better career.
I think Ginn has the potential to have better career stats, but I don't think it will end up being perceived as a better career. Hester was a 3rd round pick, while Ginn is most likely going to go top 15-20 overall. He has a whole lot more to live up to from that draft position. Expectations are so high for 1st rd picks, that it is almost impossible for a WR to live up to all the hype. I think the Bears will begin to give Hester more looks at CB and maybe even a few tries at WR like the did at Miami. So I am going to give the nod to Hester.
 
Ginn will likely have the better overall career but it will be hard for his impact on the return game to be as significant as Hester's. This is awful hard for me as both Hester and Ginn were/are players I have been very high on coming out of college.

 
Micheal Turner isn't as fast as either of these players, but I still think he'll get traded before the draft.

 
Ginn.

Those return guys, that are only return guys, it seems sometimes the magic just dries up. There are a few guys that carved out long careers as specialists, but I'll pick the guy that actually has a position.

 
Well, if you look at it logically, the answer is Hester. He set an NFL record as a rookie, and will be looked at to be involved on offense this year. Ginn has yet to play an NFL down. So, anyone who says Ginn is just hoping, so that they can come back to the quote later and show what a genius they are.

 
Ginn.

Those return guys, that are only return guys, it seems sometimes the magic just dries up. There are a few guys that carved out long careers as specialists, but I'll pick the guy that actually has a position.
What's Dante Hall doing now? Wasn't he the next big thing about 5 years ago?
 
So, anyone who says Ginn is just hoping, so that they can come back to the quote later and show what a genius they are.
I'm saying Ginn because he actually has a position, and guys who play a position tend to last longer than return specialists.Dante Hall can be acquired for a bag of peanuts right now.
 
If Hesters hands and technique don't improve, it will be Ginn by a long shot.

Speed only lasts so long. And as Sterling Sharpe likes to say, if your hands can't hold onto the ball, your legs are going to be out of a job.

Hester needs to work on his skills also. He just tries to make up with his speed too often. I'd like to see him develop his technique more, so right now I have to give an edge to Ginn.

 
So, anyone who says Ginn is just hoping, so that they can come back to the quote later and show what a genius they are.
I'm saying Ginn because he actually has a position, and guys who play a position tend to last longer than return specialists.Dante Hall can be acquired for a bag of peanuts right now.
Hester has a position. CB/KR/WR.
:lmao: Come on, man.I am glad they are trying to get him involved on offense, seems like a smart thing to do. But he is their worst WR right now, and probably their worst CB.
 
So, anyone who says Ginn is just hoping, so that they can come back to the quote later and show what a genius they are.
I'm saying Ginn because he actually has a position, and guys who play a position tend to last longer than return specialists.Dante Hall can be acquired for a bag of peanuts right now.
Hester has a position. CB/KR/WR.
:thumbdown: Come on, man.I am glad they are trying to get him involved on offense, seems like a smart thing to do. But he is their worst WR right now, and probably their worst CB.
:thumbup: Just because you've played there before doesn't mean that's your position.
 
Well, if you look at it logically, the answer is Hester. He set an NFL record as a rookie, and will be looked at to be involved on offense this year. Ginn has yet to play an NFL down. So, anyone who says Ginn is just hoping, so that they can come back to the quote later and show what a genius they are.
If you look at it logically, you can clearly see that Ginn is far more polished a WR and is therefor far more likely to have an impact in that roll as well as his returning. I would also say that Ginn is far more polished as a CB. Ginn is simply the better overall athlete and football player. His chances of making an impact in ways other than just returning are greater.
 
If you look at it logically, you can clearly see that Ginn is far more polished a WR and is therefor far more likely to have an impact in that roll as well as his returning. I would also say that Ginn is far more polished as a CB. Ginn is simply the better overall athlete and football player. His chances of making an impact in ways other than just returning are greater.
Not anymore, Hester's on the offensive side now, chief!
 
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If you look at it logically, you can clearly see that Ginn is far more polished a WR and is therefor far more likely to have an impact in that roll as well as his returning. I would also say that Ginn is far more polished as a CB. Ginn is simply the better overall athlete and football player. His chances of making an impact in ways other than just returning are greater.
Not anymore, Hester's on the offensive side now, chief!
:lmao:
 
Not sure why you find that funny... Now that Hester's on offense, they're both starting out with equal footing.

Hester already broke the all-time record for return TDs as a rookie, which Ginn will neither break nor duplicate at any time in his entire career.

Hester 1

Ginn 0

Far more polished? Ginn ran all of three routes at Ohio St. and is widely known to execute them poorly.

 
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All that aside, Ginn does have the advantage of being the #3 option for the Dolphins, while Hester will likely be splitting time with Bradley and Rashied Davis.

It will be fun comparing and contrasting the two over the next several years as to who has the better career.

 
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Not sure why you find that funny... Now that Hester's on offense, they're both starting out with equal footing.

Hester already broke the all-time record for return TDs as a rookie, which Ginn will neither break nor duplicate at any time in his entire career.

Hester 1

Ginn 0

Far more polished? Ginn ran all of three routes at Ohio St. and is widely known to execute them poorly.
Hester was their worst cornerback, and now he's their worst receiver. You must have some faith in this hertofore unseen offensive ability to say they are on equal footing.And lordy, can we put this "three route" thing to bed, please? We all read the same free draft websites, OK? No one's dropping any inside scoops here. That's 3 more routes than Hester ran in college--or the pros, for that matter. If Ginn is raw in his route-running, how do we describe Hester? Embryonic?

Yeah, Ginn isn't Isaac Bruce. Big deal. You can fix route running. You can improve it. What matters is if the receiver works hard. Guys like Bruce and Cris Carter became great route runners in the NFL. Ginn's lack of mastery of the route tree doesn't have to be a big deal. If he has a decent work ethic, I'm pretty sure his routes will be fine.

 
Well, if you look at it logically, the answer is Hester. He set an NFL record as a rookie, and will be looked at to be involved on offense this year. Ginn has yet to play an NFL down. So, anyone who says Ginn is just hoping, so that they can come back to the quote later and show what a genius they are.
If you look at it logically, you can clearly see that Ginn is far more polished a WR and is therefor far more likely to have an impact in that roll as well as his returning. I would also say that Ginn is far more polished as a CB. Ginn is simply the better overall athlete and football player. His chances of making an impact in ways other than just returning are greater.
:goodposting:
 
Hester. He will be put in better opportunities to succeed. Plus Hester has already had an impressive rookie year and rebounded well from the games in which he made bad decisions.

Ginn has lingering health issues and the talent around him is dubious at best.

 
oh yeah, and when Ginn has 100 speed rating in Madden, let me know ... :coffee:
Speed ratings in Madden mean jack####. Boss Bailey, a LINEBACKER ran a 4.35 40 time, which is just as fast as Hester and he has an 88 speed rating. Also, Ginn will probably be the fastest player in pads in the NFL the second he gets drafted.
Nuff said!

 
Well, if you look at it logically, the answer is Hester. He set an NFL record as a rookie, and will be looked at to be involved on offense this year. Ginn has yet to play an NFL down. So, anyone who says Ginn is just hoping, so that they can come back to the quote later and show what a genius they are.
If you look at it logically, you can clearly see that Ginn is far more polished a WR and is therefor far more likely to have an impact in that roll as well as his returning. I would also say that Ginn is far more polished as a CB. Ginn is simply the better overall athlete and football player. His chances of making an impact in ways other than just returning are greater.
:coffee:
Ginn was a national champion as a JUNIOR in high school in the 110 meter hurdles. OSU track coach Russ Rogers recruited Ginn to run track, believing that he could qualify for the 2008 Olympics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Ginn_Jr.

Ginn is the better athlete

 
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I think Hester eventually starts at corner and does well.

Hester > Ginn

I like to see Ginn put on some meat though and see if he can keep the speed.

 
Like Bush, the Dolphins are going to force the ball to Ginn. You simply can't draft a guy at 9, and not get him 20-30 snaps on offense a game. If they drafted a KR at 9, the Fins Nation will freak out.

Even if he has problems, they'll keep forcing him out there.

 
the only way Ginn makes the news as much as Hester did his rookie season is because he was picked instead of Brady Quinn

 
Like Bush, the Dolphins are going to force the ball to Ginn. You simply can't draft a guy at 9, and not get him 20-30 snaps on offense a game. If they drafted a KR at 9, the Fins Nation will freak out.
I'm glad the teams I route for don't base on whos playing by the fan bases reaction or where they drafted a guy.Ginn may not even be ready for training camp.
 
I think Hester eventually starts at corner and does well.Hester > GinnI like to see Ginn put on some meat though and see if he can keep the speed.
Hester already tried CB. He is now switched indefinitely to offense. Seeing as how Ginn actually played WR in college and performed very well already, I'd say Ginn > Hester. :hot:
 

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