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Tennesse State football player KOs his coach during game! (1 Viewer)

I know nothing abiut this player, but if he can say goodbye to any NFL aspirations he may have had. Not even the Raiders would take him now.
He was second string as a senior at Tennessee State. I don't think his NFL stock has changed at all.

That said, you might want to do some more research into the many awful things that have been done by players still active in the league.

 
He was second string as a senior at Tennessee State. I don't think his NFL stock has changed at all.

That said, you might want to do some more research into the many awful things that have been done by players still active in the league.
I hear ya, my point being that a "coach puncher" can't be had in the NFL. But the league will tolerate wife and child abusers, and drunks for the most part.

 
Gracias... Coaches job was keeping players back so they don't get penalized. Seems like the coach was doing his job. 

I'm perfectly okay with the charges. The "you're going to ruin the young man's life" crowd will prob be upset by this, but he needs to be held accountable for his actions. You go swinging at someone who is doing their job, that is on you.

 
"TSU strength coach T.J. Greenstone, whose job during games is to keep players away from the sideline to avoid penalties, was giving verbal directives to the team when he was hit multiple times in the head by Lee and then fell to the ground."
If you view the newly released, somewhat longer (but not long enough...) video, Greenstone wasn't just giving verbal directives to the team, he was getting "handsy." Not saying that this clears Lee of any wrong doing here, but we still don't have the entire story/back story.

 
If you view the newly released, somewhat longer (but not long enough...) video, Greenstone wasn't just giving verbal directives to the team, he was getting "handsy." Not saying that this clears Lee of any wrong doing here, but we still don't have the entire story/back story.
...and I'm starting to wonder why not? Almost looks like someone is trying not to show the entire video.

 
If you view the newly released, somewhat longer (but not long enough...) video, Greenstone wasn't just giving verbal directives to the team, he was getting "handsy." Not saying that this clears Lee of any wrong doing here, but we still don't have the entire story/back story.
If his job was to keep the players back behind the line, I don't see an issue with "pushing" them back a bit if necessary. 

 
If his job was to keep the players back behind the line, I don't see an issue with "pushing" them back a bit if necessary. 
If you watch college football at all it happens in every game.  The OSU-Penn State game OSU coaches were shoving players back to keep them off the sideline to avoid penalties.  The Michigan-Wisconsin game both teams coaches were pushing players back all game.  I was at the Michigan-MSU game and Spartan coaches were at times pulling players back in a horse collar move to get them off the sideline.  Did not see any punches thrown.

On every team there are coaches assigned to do that job. 

 
If you watch college football at all it happens in every game.  The OSU-Penn State game OSU coaches were shoving players back to keep them off the sideline to avoid penalties.  The Michigan-Wisconsin game both teams coaches were pushing players back all game.  I was at the Michigan-MSU game and Spartan coaches were at times pulling players back in a horse collar move to get them off the sideline.  Did not see any punches thrown.

On every team there are coaches assigned to do that job. 
Yeap, it happens all the time.

 
So, because every team has always had a Mr Handsy pushing and shoving players to keep them off the field, you're all surprised and aghast that someone finally snapped? I mean, like there's no way that could ever get out of control.  :wall:

 
So, because every team has always had a Mr Handsy pushing and shoving players to keep them off the field, you're all surprised and aghast that someone finally snapped? I mean, like there's no way that could ever get out of control.  :wall:
Been watching college football my whole life and that is the first time I have ever seen a player attack a coach with punches like that.

 
Been watching college football my whole life and that is the first time I have ever seen a player attack a coach with punches like that.
If you ask me- and I know that you didn’t- Latrell Lee lived and breathed his football as much as the next guy out there. He was a good, but not great defensive end and was relegated to serving as a back up to a transfer student his senior year. An athlete toting a 3.0 GPA and graduating early. Coach Greenstone- the teams strength and conditioning coach (who wears his hat backwards on the sidelines- NTTAWWT )- has to be "the bad guy" at games, patrolling the sideline every game tasked with keeping the players back to avoid penalties. Every week those players get all fired up and Coach has to keep them back. Every game. Pushing and shoving. Perhaps a few choice words thrown in to help get the job done. (“You think these @#%&! players would get it, already!”) The perfect storm of “Pushin’ n Shovin’” Greenstone meeting up with Latrell “I Wish I Was On The Field For Senior Week And I’m Graduating in December” Lee became a volatile combo this time. "Snap!" Sad.

At a time when we as a society find ourselves hashing out just what defines healthy boundaries and how to maintain them, it might be time for college teams to come up with a better way to keep players not in the game from intruding onto the playing surface. Maybe. 

 
If you ask me- and I know that you didn’t- Latrell Lee lived and breathed his football as much as the next guy out there. He was a good, but not great defensive end and was relegated to serving as a back up to a transfer student his senior year. An athlete toting a 3.0 GPA and graduating early. Coach Greenstone- the teams strength and conditioning coach (who wears his hat backwards on the sidelines- NTTAWWT )- has to be "the bad guy" at games, patrolling the sideline every game tasked with keeping the players back to avoid penalties. Every week those players get all fired up and Coach has to keep them back. Every game. Pushing and shoving. Perhaps a few choice words thrown in to help get the job done. (“You think these @#%&! players would get it, already!”) The perfect storm of “Pushin’ n Shovin’” Greenstone meeting up with Latrell “I Wish I Was On The Field For Senior Week And I’m Graduating in December” Lee became a volatile combo this time. "Snap!" Sad.

At a time when we as a society find ourselves hashing out just what defines healthy boundaries and how to maintain them, it might be time for college teams to come up with a better way to keep players not in the game from intruding onto the playing surface. Maybe. 
It is not up to us to decide as it has already been decided. 

The school kicked him off the team and expelled him from school. Also he could be facing criminal charges even though the coach said he did not want to press charges. Prosecutor said it does not matter what the coach wants to do.

As far as keeping the players back..in the emotions of the game it happens at every level from HS to the NFL.  I see Caldwell from the Lions shoving players back all the time.  They just get too close to being on the playing field and the refs are calling it.

 
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It is not up to us to decide as it has already been decided. 

The school kicked him off the team and expelled him from school. Also he could be facing criminal charges even though the coach said he did not want to press charges. Prosecutor said it does not matter what the coach wants to do.
Okay, it's too late for this kid. He'll be getting his.  :clap: My hope is that the full tape appears and that more light is shone on this barbaric, old school sideline procedure.

 
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Okay, it's too late for this kid. He'll be getting his.  :clap: My hope is that the full tape appears and that more light is shone on this barbaric, old school sideline procedure.
Actually what is goes on during the game on the field is much more barbaric.

 
Actually what is goes on during the game on the field is much more barbaric.
Well, yes- there is that. And that's where it's supposed to be, right? The practice of adult coaches pushing and shoving students on the sidelines to keep them in line doesn't have to be.

 
Well, yes- there is that. And that's where it's supposed to be, right? The practice of adult coaches pushing and shoving students on the sidelines to keep them in line doesn't have to be.
Wat? Have you ever played football? It's nature to get up close to the field when you're on the sidelines (which happens to be a penalty, and a penalty for obvious reasons - it creates an unnecessary hazard).

I read they had already received a warning, so the guy had a simple job, keep the players back... Even remotely trying to defend the guy (he is in his 20's, not a kid) is :mindblown: for me. Their next warning was 15 yards, coach was doing what he was supposed to  :shrug:

 
Having a coach tasked with pushing and shoving players back behind a line all game long, every game...
Oh, completely get it. It is the team or coaches fault that there is a rule in place (not made by them) that they have to adhere to. Prob their fault too that the players don't follow the rule and they need to make sure it is enforced or it is a penalty against the team.

 
Having a coach tasked with pushing and shoving players back behind a line all game long, every game...
Standing away from the sidelines has been a rule for decades. If these dumb oafs would follow the rules, maybe they wouldn't need to be physically restrained.

 
He ate that first punch like a champ.
Coach got short changed in the original articles and accounts. He took FOUR shots, not two. I want to see what went down before the hand grabbing that precipitated the blows.

 
Standing away from the sidelines has been a rule for decades. If these dumb oafs would follow the rules, maybe they wouldn't need to be physically restrained.
"These dumb oafs" apparently dwell on all college sidelines. Cattle prods would do the trick.

 
So, because every team has always had a Mr Handsy pushing and shoving players to keep them off the field, you're all surprised and aghast that someone finally snapped? I mean, like there's no way that could ever get out of control.  :wall:
Maybe he snapped because he has CTE. Players fight the other team all the time. But when you attack members of your own squad, you have a screw loose and lack self-control. Goodbye.

 
Maybe he snapped because he has CTE. Players fight the other team all the time. But when you attack members of your own squad, you have a screw loose and lack self-control. Goodbye.
Maybe that's the case.

 
And you gotta love the millennial entitlement sentiment behind the #giveleehisdegree campaign. Yes, lets GIVE this criminal something he hasn't earned. Nicely done, kids.

 
"These dumb oafs" apparently dwell on all college sidelines. Cattle prods would do the trick.
Don't care what works or doesn't. Get shoved by a coach or rack up 100 yards worth of penalties for all I care. 
You sucker punch someone 4 times, you get put in a cage.

 
Honestly have no clue what Glock is looking for here...

The coach make a yo mama joke? The coach was pushing the player back to avoid a penalty? The coach told him to S T F U? 

Great, now what?

 
If you ask me- and I know that you didn’t- Latrell Lee lived and breathed his football as much as the next guy out there. He was a good, but not great defensive end and was relegated to serving as a back up to a transfer student his senior year. An athlete toting a 3.0 GPA and graduating early. Coach Greenstone- the teams strength and conditioning coach (who wears his hat backwards on the sidelines- NTTAWWT )- has to be "the bad guy" at games, patrolling the sideline every game tasked with keeping the players back to avoid penalties. Every week those players get all fired up and Coach has to keep them back. Every game. Pushing and shoving. Perhaps a few choice words thrown in to help get the job done. (“You think these @#%&! players would get it, already!”) The perfect storm of “Pushin’ n Shovin’” Greenstone meeting up with Latrell “I Wish I Was On The Field For Senior Week And I’m Graduating in December” Lee became a volatile combo this time. "Snap!" Sad.

At a time when we as a society find ourselves hashing out just what defines healthy boundaries and how to maintain them, it might be time for college teams to come up with a better way to keep players not in the game from intruding onto the playing surface. Maybe. 
:lmao:    :fishing:

 
Well, yes- there is that. And that's where it's supposed to be, right? The practice of adult coaches pushing and shoving students on the sidelines to keep them in line doesn't have to be.
Glock, I love ya GB, but this is an odd hill to die on.

It's freakin' football. It's a physical game.  This isn't even high school kids where I suppose I could better understand the "no handsy allowed" approach.  But 250lb college men sometimes need to be corralled, as was discussed above... as in EVERY sideline I know of does this.  Guys want to get too close to the field, coaches yell at them... eventually coach walks in front almost if not physically corralling them, sometimes a coach will grab a guy by the shirt before he gets so close to the sideline as to have a penalty called.

Not sure the umbrage here in terms of the nature of a sideline with 50-100 football players on it, engaged in the game and amped up.  

As to how this plays into the original scheme, if THIS sets off a player, they should be no where near a football field. As noted, there must be more to it, but there is simply NO excuse for popping a guy like that.  None.  Get what's coming to you at that point. 

 
Glock, I love ya GB, but this is an odd hill to die on.

It's freakin' football. It's a physical game.  This isn't even high school kids where I suppose I could better understand the "no handsy allowed" approach.  But 250lb college men sometimes need to be corralled, as was discussed above... as in EVERY sideline I know of does this.  Guys want to get too close to the field, coaches yell at them... eventually coach walks in front almost if not physically corralling them, sometimes a coach will grab a guy by the shirt before he gets so close to the sideline as to have a penalty called.

Not sure the umbrage here in terms of the nature of a sideline with 50-100 football players on it, engaged in the game and amped up.  

As to how this plays into the original scheme, if THIS sets off a player, they should be no where near a football field. As noted, there must be more to it, but there is simply NO excuse for popping a guy like that.  None.  Get what's coming to you at that point. 
That's where I started with this. It took until the 3rd distribution of the video to show that there was a prolonged grapple prior to 4 blows being thrown. I never said that Lee get a "get out of jail free card" from me, either. I'm just thinking that all the "pushing and shoving" doesn't happen at the high school or professional level (not that I've seen, anyway...). Why at the college level?

 

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