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Tennessee: Why didn't they address WR in the draft? (1 Viewer)

Is it possible that the reason the Titans don't draft Day 1 WRs is that they aren't confident in Fisher's ability to coach them up to their draft slot? How many Day 1 WRs have the Titans drafted over the last 15 years?I asked this question before but others brought it back to the recent discussion.I'm having a hard time finding what you've brought recently to the thread as well. :goodposting:
Is it possible that you have no clue about the Titans and Jeff Fisher.What does their draft slot have to do with his ability to coach them?
 
pizzatyme said:
FUBAR said:
pizzatyme said:
Is it possible that the reason the Titans don't draft Day 1 WRs is that they aren't confident in Fisher's ability to coach them up to their draft slot? How many Day 1 WRs have the Titans drafted over the last 15 years?
it's not Fisher's job to coach up the WRs.
His position coaches are an extension of him. They coach his philosophy. If he can't get assistant coaches that can coach up WRs, then that is a black mark against him.Just like the S.T. coach for Indy. He is terrible and that is a black mark against Dungy imo.The head coach needs to get WRs to perform through the use of his Assistants.
It still isn't his job to "coach up" the WRs, it's his job to implement a plan and get his team to execute that plan. If his plan doesn't call for highly drafted WRs, that isn't a "black mark" against him.The coaching staff coaches their head coach's philosophy. Fisher's philosophy is to run and play strong D. WRs aren't as important in his system as they are in other systems. The alleged inability of his assistants to produce an elite WR that was drafted in the first round (I'm really not sure why anyone even cares about that) is not a "black mark" against him. If the entire offense was unable to score, unable to get first downs, unable to perform in his system, that would be a black mark. So, to answer the question posed in this thread, I'd say they didn't address WR high in the draft because they had more pressing needs to fill in order to implement their plan.
 
sho nuff said:
pizzatyme said:
Is it possible that the reason the Titans don't draft Day 1 WRs is that they aren't confident in Fisher's ability to coach them up to their draft slot? How many Day 1 WRs have the Titans drafted over the last 15 years?I asked this question before but others brought it back to the recent discussion.I'm having a hard time finding what you've brought recently to the thread as well. :shrug:
Is it possible that you have no clue about the Titans and Jeff Fisher.What does their draft slot have to do with his ability to coach them?
Higher draft slot usually means higher expectations. And, I'd say I know quite a bit about the Titans, they play in the same division as the Colts. I see them twice a year. Which is probably more than most on this board.
 
pizzatyme said:
FUBAR said:
pizzatyme said:
Is it possible that the reason the Titans don't draft Day 1 WRs is that they aren't confident in Fisher's ability to coach them up to their draft slot? How many Day 1 WRs have the Titans drafted over the last 15 years?
it's not Fisher's job to coach up the WRs.
His position coaches are an extension of him. They coach his philosophy. If he can't get assistant coaches that can coach up WRs, then that is a black mark against him.Just like the S.T. coach for Indy. He is terrible and that is a black mark against Dungy imo.The head coach needs to get WRs to perform through the use of his Assistants.
It still isn't his job to "coach up" the WRs, it's his job to implement a plan and get his team to execute that plan. If his plan doesn't call for highly drafted WRs, that isn't a "black mark" against him.The coaching staff coaches their head coach's philosophy. Fisher's philosophy is to run and play strong D. WRs aren't as important in his system as they are in other systems. The alleged inability of his assistants to produce an elite WR that was drafted in the first round (I'm really not sure why anyone even cares about that) is not a "black mark" against him. If the entire offense was unable to score, unable to get first downs, unable to perform in his system, that would be a black mark. So, to answer the question posed in this thread, I'd say they didn't address WR high in the draft because they had more pressing needs to fill in order to implement their plan.
I am just playing devil's advocate on why they didn't draft VY WR help. It is a glaring need, one which they didn't address until the 4th round IIRC.
 
pizzatyme said:
FUBAR said:
pizzatyme said:
Is it possible that the reason the Titans don't draft Day 1 WRs is that they aren't confident in Fisher's ability to coach them up to their draft slot? How many Day 1 WRs have the Titans drafted over the last 15 years?
it's not Fisher's job to coach up the WRs.
His position coaches are an extension of him. They coach his philosophy. If he can't get assistant coaches that can coach up WRs, then that is a black mark against him.Just like the S.T. coach for Indy. He is terrible and that is a black mark against Dungy imo.The head coach needs to get WRs to perform through the use of his Assistants.
It still isn't his job to "coach up" the WRs, it's his job to implement a plan and get his team to execute that plan. If his plan doesn't call for highly drafted WRs, that isn't a "black mark" against him.The coaching staff coaches their head coach's philosophy. Fisher's philosophy is to run and play strong D. WRs aren't as important in his system as they are in other systems. The alleged inability of his assistants to produce an elite WR that was drafted in the first round (I'm really not sure why anyone even cares about that) is not a "black mark" against him. If the entire offense was unable to score, unable to get first downs, unable to perform in his system, that would be a black mark. So, to answer the question posed in this thread, I'd say they didn't address WR high in the draft because they had more pressing needs to fill in order to implement their plan.
I am just playing devil's advocate on why they didn't draft VY WR help. It is a glaring need, one which they didn't address until the 4th round IIRC.
Ok. I still say Johnson will be more help for VY than any WR they could have had there. Fact is no WR was worth a 1st round pick this year. I was surprised that they didn't take one before the 4th, but they also needed DE help, more so than the WR.
 
pizzatyme said:
FUBAR said:
pizzatyme said:
Is it possible that the reason the Titans don't draft Day 1 WRs is that they aren't confident in Fisher's ability to coach them up to their draft slot? How many Day 1 WRs have the Titans drafted over the last 15 years?
it's not Fisher's job to coach up the WRs.
His position coaches are an extension of him. They coach his philosophy. If he can't get assistant coaches that can coach up WRs, then that is a black mark against him.Just like the S.T. coach for Indy. He is terrible and that is a black mark against Dungy imo.The head coach needs to get WRs to perform through the use of his Assistants.
It still isn't his job to "coach up" the WRs, it's his job to implement a plan and get his team to execute that plan. If his plan doesn't call for highly drafted WRs, that isn't a "black mark" against him.The coaching staff coaches their head coach's philosophy. Fisher's philosophy is to run and play strong D. WRs aren't as important in his system as they are in other systems. The alleged inability of his assistants to produce an elite WR that was drafted in the first round (I'm really not sure why anyone even cares about that) is not a "black mark" against him. If the entire offense was unable to score, unable to get first downs, unable to perform in his system, that would be a black mark. So, to answer the question posed in this thread, I'd say they didn't address WR high in the draft because they had more pressing needs to fill in order to implement their plan.
I am just playing devil's advocate on why they didn't draft VY WR help. It is a glaring need, one which they didn't address until the 4th round IIRC.
Ok. I still say Johnson will be more help for VY than any WR they could have had there. Fact is no WR was worth a 1st round pick this year. I was surprised that they didn't take one before the 4th, but they also needed DE help, more so than the WR.
I'd say it's more opinion than "fact" that there was no 1st round WR talent this year. That remains to be seen. I could see someone like Hardy having a great year. But that's just me.
 
sho nuff said:
pizzatyme said:
Is it possible that the reason the Titans don't draft Day 1 WRs is that they aren't confident in Fisher's ability to coach them up to their draft slot? How many Day 1 WRs have the Titans drafted over the last 15 years?I asked this question before but others brought it back to the recent discussion.I'm having a hard time finding what you've brought recently to the thread as well. :confused:
Is it possible that you have no clue about the Titans and Jeff Fisher.What does their draft slot have to do with his ability to coach them?
Higher draft slot usually means higher expectations. And, I'd say I know quite a bit about the Titans, they play in the same division as the Colts. I see them twice a year. Which is probably more than most on this board.
That twice a year has not taught you much.You should know by the way the Colts struggle with the Titans recently with the Titans having a lesser talented squad that Fisher is pretty damn good.
 
pizzatyme said:
FUBAR said:
pizzatyme said:
Is it possible that the reason the Titans don't draft Day 1 WRs is that they aren't confident in Fisher's ability to coach them up to their draft slot? How many Day 1 WRs have the Titans drafted over the last 15 years?
it's not Fisher's job to coach up the WRs.
His position coaches are an extension of him. They coach his philosophy. If he can't get assistant coaches that can coach up WRs, then that is a black mark against him.Just like the S.T. coach for Indy. He is terrible and that is a black mark against Dungy imo.The head coach needs to get WRs to perform through the use of his Assistants.
It still isn't his job to "coach up" the WRs, it's his job to implement a plan and get his team to execute that plan. If his plan doesn't call for highly drafted WRs, that isn't a "black mark" against him.The coaching staff coaches their head coach's philosophy. Fisher's philosophy is to run and play strong D. WRs aren't as important in his system as they are in other systems. The alleged inability of his assistants to produce an elite WR that was drafted in the first round (I'm really not sure why anyone even cares about that) is not a "black mark" against him. If the entire offense was unable to score, unable to get first downs, unable to perform in his system, that would be a black mark. So, to answer the question posed in this thread, I'd say they didn't address WR high in the draft because they had more pressing needs to fill in order to implement their plan.
I am just playing devil's advocate on why they didn't draft VY WR help. It is a glaring need, one which they didn't address until the 4th round IIRC.
Ok. I still say Johnson will be more help for VY than any WR they could have had there. Fact is no WR was worth a 1st round pick this year. I was surprised that they didn't take one before the 4th, but they also needed DE help, more so than the WR.
I'd say it's more opinion than "fact" that there was no 1st round WR talent this year. That remains to be seen. I could see someone like Hardy having a great year. But that's just me.
How many WRs were drafted in the 1st round?While its opinion...its one that is strongly supported with the fact that no GM found a WR good enough to draft in the 1st round.
 
ConstruxBoy said:
The Titans WR strategy reminds me of watching newbies draft in a message board survivor league: Take a bunch of late round WRs who haven't done anything yet and pray that at least one of them sees the light this season.
It's a much better strategy to spend a first round pick on one, because those guys are guaranteed to be studs. :thumbdown:
 
I think alot has to do with their offensvie philosophy:Fisherball . They don't want to throw it all over the place. They want to grind it out and win with defense and the running game. The first time the Dinger was there, they had Air McNair...now they have VY...I don't think they will let VY open it up as much as some would think....If this is the case, you don't need first round stud wrs...just serviceable ones
This right here supports my theory. Like it or not.The Titans SCREWED UP in drafting Vince Young, and are now only trying to save face.Since then, they have changes GMs, OCs, and god only knows what else. They don't want to expose their "idiocy" in not selecting local boy Jay Cutler, and going with the Rose Bowl boy wonder that is Vince Young. He doesn't have it, and they know it. In no way do they want to bring in a high-caliber WR, rookie or otherwise, that will only shed more layers from the onion (or pay the price to do so). They are playing their cards with everything BUT the passing game.1. A ferocious defense, although it has tailed off a bit recently, but stilll solid.2. Feature the running game, focusing on keeping the game low-scoring, while at the same time grabbing any running back they can at a fair price or draft pick. (Young is costing them too much on the offensive side of the roster).3. Re-sign one of the best kickers, including long-distance, in the game to a wealthy contract.I can go on and on, but you get the picture.This will go on until they can get out from beneath Young's contract, while at the same time find a REAL quarterback.Young fans go on and on about how he's such a great leader, wills his team to win, some of the most ridiculous arguments I've ever heard.A majority of those wins come from the efforts of the defense and the kicker. Vince Young cannot possibly be credited for so many wins with only 9 TD passes and 17 INTs to go with it. "Oh, but he runs" they say. Well, if he could hit a receiver he wouldn't have to run. Also, a majority of his completions are dump-offs, which explains his league low yards per completion every year."Oh, well he was hurt". Right. That's comes with running QBs in the NFL. He holds the ball too long, can't read defenses, fumbles more than his fair share in the pocket due to this, but in the end, "he's just great".Ya, right.
:lmao:This is incredibly myopic. First, way to leave out his pro-bowl rookie year. Second, you're judging a 23 year old pretty harshly on one season of football. Awesome.
Especially one who everyone admitted would take a little time to develop into an NFL QB. IIRC, it was Leinart who was supposed to be the most NFL-ready from that class. And as it stands right now, Young has better career stats than either Leinart or Cutler.EDT: Hey, what am I doing defending a Longhorn??????
 
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ConstruxBoy said:
The Titans WR strategy reminds me of watching newbies draft in a message board survivor league: Take a bunch of late round WRs who haven't done anything yet and pray that at least one of them sees the light this season.
It's a much better strategy to spend a first round pick on one, because those guys are guaranteed to be studs. :goodposting:
So they're still scarred by Dyson? That's sort of sad. I mean, the Chargers got over Leaf when they drafted Rivers (Manning).
 
Randy Moss gets drafted by Tennessee and chances are McNair would have been a viable HOF candidate with a SB ring on his finger--even if Moss decides to give a Nashville officer a ride on his hood.

Sigmund, based on what you've learned over the past two years interviewing scouts, personnel folks, etc. Are scouts designated positions to evaluate? Is it possible Tennessee still has the same WR scout? I would think that's not the case. I would think Mr. Broccato (a great figure in the history of scouting) either has a long memory and is set in his ways or it's a Bud Adams rule. Sometimes the heads of organizations get in the way of progress more than anyone.

Whatever it is, something is fishy here. I'm just sick of them bringing in players who don't work out:

Kevin Dyson

Carl Pickens

Yancy Thigpen (1 season and couldn't play the SB)

David Givens

Maybe Gage continues to progress and the Mike, Paul, and Roydell Williams show makes a difference. :fishing: :popcorn:

 
Randy Moss gets drafted by Tennessee and chances are McNair would have been a viable HOF candidate with a SB ring on his finger--even if Moss decides to give a Nashville officer a ride on his hood. Sigmund, based on what you've learned over the past two years interviewing scouts, personnel folks, etc. Are scouts designated positions to evaluate? Is it possible Tennessee still has the same WR scout? I would think that's not the case. I would think Mr. Broccato (a great figure in the history of scouting) either has a long memory and is set in his ways or it's a Bud Adams rule. Sometimes the heads of organizations get in the way of progress more than anyone. Whatever it is, something is fishy here. I'm just sick of them bringing in players who don't work out: Kevin DysonCarl PickensYancy Thigpen (1 season and couldn't play the SB)David GivensMaybe Gage continues to progress and the Mike, Paul, and Roydell Williams show makes a difference. :confused: :fishy:
Fisher's Bears IMO were less than spectacular at WR. BB used to have nothing "fancy" at WR. Plenty of good teams had "eh" WRs like the 86 and 90 Giants. I just don't think it's understood to be a pressing need **where a star is needed, in Fisher's mind. You can't have a star at every roster spot. There isn't 22 1st round picks per team. Gotta skimp somewhere, so it winds up being WR. Some of those coaches will take a sure handed hustler that blocks great over a pamperred star that could possibly catch 20TDs.Their best WR the last decade, Mason, was what I figure Fisher shoots for in a WR. He got it done, time and time again.Further, I wonder if each year we all hope Jacksonville will get more out of their WRs than DelRio wants. They have top college talents at WR but he's busy running Freddie T and MJD into the ground. Even if the Titans drafted a first round WR, Fisher might play it like JDR anyhow. I do figure Fisher would prefer to win with running and defense.BTW I saw a press release about your draft book. It's extremely impressive, congrats on that.
 
The Titans WR strategy reminds me of watching newbies draft in a message board survivor league: Take a bunch of late round WRs who haven't done anything yet and pray that at least one of them sees the light this season.
It's a much better strategy to spend a first round pick on one, because those guys are guaranteed to be studs. :confused:
So they're still scarred by Dyson? That's sort of sad. I mean, the Chargers got over Leaf when they drafted Rivers (Manning).
different GM
 
Randy Moss gets drafted by Tennessee and chances are McNair would have been a viable HOF candidate with a SB ring on his finger--even if Moss decides to give a Nashville officer a ride on his hood. Sigmund, based on what you've learned over the past two years interviewing scouts, personnel folks, etc. Are scouts designated positions to evaluate? Is it possible Tennessee still has the same WR scout? I would think that's not the case. I would think Mr. Broccato (a great figure in the history of scouting) either has a long memory and is set in his ways or it's a Bud Adams rule. Sometimes the heads of organizations get in the way of progress more than anyone. Whatever it is, something is fishy here. I'm just sick of them bringing in players who don't work out: Kevin DysonCarl PickensYancy Thigpen (1 season and couldn't play the SB)David GivensMaybe Gage continues to progress and the Mike, Paul, and Roydell Williams show makes a difference. <_< :fishy:
Fisher's Bears IMO were less than spectacular at WR. BB used to have nothing "fancy" at WR. Plenty of good teams had "eh" WRs like the 86 and 90 Giants. I just don't think it's understood to be a pressing need **where a star is needed, in Fisher's mind. You can't have a star at every roster spot. There isn't 22 1st round picks per team. Gotta skimp somewhere, so it winds up being WR. Some of those coaches will take a sure handed hustler that blocks great over a pamperred star that could possibly catch 20TDs.Their best WR the last decade, Mason, was what I figure Fisher shoots for in a WR. He got it done, time and time again.Further, I wonder if each year we all hope Jacksonville will get more out of their WRs than DelRio wants. They have top college talents at WR but he's busy running Freddie T and MJD into the ground. Even if the Titans drafted a first round WR, Fisher might play it like JDR anyhow. I do figure Fisher would prefer to win with running and defense.BTW I saw a press release about your draft book. It's extremely impressive, congrats on that.
Thanks
 
Was Mike Williams in shape during his rookie year in Detroit or has he always been extremely overweight in the NFL? I'm reading all of the 2005 scouting reports on this guy and most seem to think he was destined for greatness. If Mike was in shape in detroit and still looked like a turd i would say it's probably safe to write him off. If, however, he's never been in shape and is regaining his USC form perhaps he could be an incredible value this year? I guess i will yield to the detroit/oakland homers to fill me in on BMW's status with their respective teams.

 
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Alluro said:
Was Mike Williams in shape during his rookie year in Detroit or has he always been extremely overweight in the NFL? I'm reading all of the 2005 scouting reports on this guy and most seem to think he was destined for greatness. If Mike was in shape in detroit and still looked like a turd i would say it's probably safe to write him off. If, however, he's never been in shape and is regaining his USC form perhaps he could be an incredible value this year? I guess i will yield to the detroit/oakland homers to fill me in BMW status with their respective teams.
I believe he's been in shape for a brief time many times in his career. This is the first long stretch. It's probably a fair guess to say Fisher and his NFL career dwindling away are ringing in his head, reminding him he'd better work at it.Fisher's players are pretty well known for good work ethic so he probably deserves a smidge of credit. However, for a change, Mike gets alot of credit for pushing himself.
 
There's a bit of humble pie and work hard attitude here that is completely new with Mike IMO

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Mike Williams can admit it now. The year of football he missed in 2004 when he unsuccessfully applied for the NFL Draft as a college sophomore took its toll on his pro career.

Williams and former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett originally challenged and won the right to enter the draft that year, but later an appeals court overturned that ruling. When the NCAA would not allow Williams to play again for Southern California, he was left in no man’s land for a year until he was drafted by the Detroit Lions in 2005.

“I think what I lost the most wasn’t anything football related; it was the structure,” said Williams, now 24 and trying to resurrect his career with the Tennessee Titans. “Being a part of a routine and having a regimen and having a set schedule of being here for how long and being there for how long. That was my main thing that I struggled with for awhile. I struggled with it.

“I got better about it at the end of my first year, but the second year I got right back into [being late]. It was the structure. That was the main thing that hurt me, just the structure and waking up and commitment. What do they call it? Being a pro. Having a year off from that, that was the main thing that hurt me.”

During his time with the Lions, who picked him 10th overall in the 2005 draft, Williams was said to be frequently fined for being late for meetings and other such transgressions. The Lions were all too happy to trade him to Oakland as part of a package during draft weekend last year.

When he got to the Raiders, he didn’t last long there either and was released after dropping a key fourth-down pass against the Titans in October. Williams signed a two-year deal with the Titans on Thanksgiving Day, but did not catch a pass in two games. He was deactivated for the final weeks of the season, even though Tennessee was shorthanded at receiver due to injuries.

At season’s end, Williams, who weighed more than 270 pounds when signed in November, was told matter-of-factly by Coach Jeff Fisher to get in shape or get released again.

That edict and the hiring of hard-line offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger would have seemed to all but deal the death blow to Williams as a Titan or maybe even as an NFL player.

But a funny thing happened in the nine weeks or so between Tennessee’s playoff loss to San Diego and the opening of the off-season program in late March. Williams dedicated himself to making the most of his opportunity, and if Friday’s OTA work is any indication, might make a strong case to play himself into the Titans’ plans this season.

He said he has lost more than 30 pounds and hopes to show the “experts” who said the Titans needed to spend an early pick on a receiver, that that is not necessarily the case.

“That’s the only thing I could control,” he said of his conditioning. “I couldn’t control the draft. I didn’t know if they would take a receiver at No. 1. I just had to control what I could control and that was me coming back in shape and that would let them know that, ‘Hey, we might not have to draft one [early].’ I’m not saying that the way I came back made their decision not to draft one, and I’m not saying it did. But it didn’t matter if they drafted one or not, I’m going to compete regardless.”

When it came time to report for off-season work, Williams and was the first player to arrive in the locker room on the first day. As fate would have it, his path crossed with Heimerdinger, and the two have seemingly struck up a good relationship thus far.

“I was here the first day we started [the off-season work],” Williams said. “I was in the locker room by myself. I was so excited to show everybody what I looked like that I was here early. That’s the last time I’ve been here that early. I was in here at a quarter to seven just sitting around watching TV. He was the first guy I saw. He was passing through and came over and introduced himself, and we just went from there. I’ve got a respect level, not even knowing him, but just having friends that played for him. You find out for yourself the fire that he has, and the expectations.”

Williams seemingly has taken to the words Heimerdinger told all the Titans receivers that day to heart.

“I don’t have a preconceived notion of who should be there and who shouldn’t,” Heimerdinger said. “It’s a matter of them showing what they can do, and that’s what I told them the first day that you guys have a good opportunity here because I have no preconceived notion of who can do what or do anything. You’ve got to show me, and if you can make plays out here, then you’ve got a chance to play.”

Heimerdinger said Williams is plenty talented to play. It’s simply a matter of him being in good enough shape to contribute.

“He’s an amazing talent. For a big man to run like he runs,” Heimerdinger said. “He’s got great hands and he’s run real good. The problem with Mike is he’s got to be able to do it more than two days in a row. He’s got to get in shape and make sure that he’s here. Talent-wise, he’s very talented and can do a lot of good things.

“With a talent like that, I think any offense can use it, but he has to be in shape and he has to be able to run more than two outs in a row. I’ve never been a guy that rotates a lot of wide receivers.”

Williams still isn’t exactly where he wants to be weight-wise _ he says he’s around 242, but he’s closing in on his goal.

“I want to see if I can get to my S.C. weight of 235 or 230,” Williams said.

Williams also is beginning to get a bit of his swagger back, as well. He knows that because of his past issues with the Lions and Raiders and his high draft status, this could be his last shot to find success. But he doesn’t dwell on it.

“You think about it, but it’s not something I wake up thinking about,” he said. “There’s enough pressure being in this league and being drafted in the top 10 and being on your third team. That’s enough pressure in itself. [There’s no need] to add more to it. I just come here to work and take care of the things I can take care of. People are going to say what they want.”

Titans backup quarterback Kerry Collins sees a big improvement thus far from the guy who didn’t catch a single pass for Tennessee last year.

“It’s not a question of talent. He’s big guy, he’s got big strong hands. He’s got all the tools,” Collins said. “It’s just keep getting familiar with what we’re doing and keep going in the direction he’s going with his weight, and I think he can be a big part of what we do.”

Heimerdinger, never one to lavish loads of praise for no reason, sees that as well.

“Right now he does some things that when you watch him, he’s very talented,” Heimerdinger said. “He’s got great hands and can run very well for a big man. It’s is he in shape and can he do it consistently?”

Only Williams can answer that.

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=60112

 
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Couldn't control draft but could control his own work ethic, 242 pounds vs 270 wants to get to 230-235. Showing up at 7am...that's new

 
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Could be a nice story. If he is serious and gets his conditioning down, look out!

As a Colts fan, this scares the beejesus out of me. That is new for one of the Titans WRs.

 
Could be a nice story. If he is serious and gets his conditioning down, look out!As a Colts fan, this scares the beejesus out of me. That is new for one of the Titans WRs.
As a Colts fan though, you should be able to say their WRs have never concerned you too too much and yet they have played you very well-maybe better than any other franchise lately. Another reason why it appears they don't feel it's their building a team theory to have a superstar WR.
 
Could be a nice story. If he is serious and gets his conditioning down, look out!As a Colts fan, this scares the beejesus out of me. That is new for one of the Titans WRs.
As a Colts fan though, you should be able to say their WRs have never concerned you too too much and yet they have played you very well-maybe better than any other franchise lately. Another reason why it appears they don't feel it's their building a team theory to have a superstar WR.
There is no denying that the Titans have played the Colts well. However, I think a big part of the reason the Colts have won the majority of the games is because the Titans didn't have the weapons to deliver in the end.Defense and conservative palycalling will keep you in a lot of games. Playmakers will win you a lot of games.The Titans need playmakers. Do they have to be "Superstar WRs"? Not necessarily. But they have been limited on playmakers on the whole.
 
Could be a nice story. If he is serious and gets his conditioning down, look out!As a Colts fan, this scares the beejesus out of me. That is new for one of the Titans WRs.
As a Colts fan though, you should be able to say their WRs have never concerned you too too much and yet they have played you very well-maybe better than any other franchise lately. Another reason why it appears they don't feel it's their building a team theory to have a superstar WR.
There is no denying that the Titans have played the Colts well. However, I think a big part of the reason the Colts have won the majority of the games is because the Titans didn't have the weapons to deliver in the end.Defense and conservative palycalling will keep you in a lot of games. Playmakers will win you a lot of games.The Titans need playmakers. Do they have to be "Superstar WRs"? Not necessarily. But they have been limited on playmakers on the whole.
This is a :lmao: and an astute observation.
 
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...0/1027/sports01

Titans offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger knows what he wants out of his receivers, but right now he isn't sure which ones are right for him.

Four months into his second stint with the team — and five minicamp practices behind him — he's still in the process of figuring it all out.

"I told the guys from the beginning: I don't care what you've done in the past. If you make plays then you have a chance to be on board,'' Heimerdinger said Tuesday. "So right now I'd rank them all in a giant wad. I want to see who produces and who does what.

"When we put pads on we'll find out if they'll block in the run game or if they're going to chicken out.''

In recent minicamps at Baptist Sports Park, receivers Justin Gage and Justin McCareins worked mostly with the first-team unit. Gage led the team in receiving yards last season while McCareins is back with Heimerdinger after playing for him previously in Tennessee and New York with the Jets.

Listening to Heimerdinger after practice Tuesday, it's evident he's high on both players.

But so far Heimerdinger hasn't gotten a live look at receiver Roydell Williams — still out while recovering from a broken ankle — and he knows it's still too early to sing the praises of veteran Mike Williams, who dropped more than 20 pounds earlier this offseason.

Another receiver, fourth-round draft pick Lavelle Hawkins, has hardly had a chance to make a case for himself.

Report card for receivers

New Titans offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger breaks down the eight receivers on the roster, not counting the injured Roydell Williams and the undrafted free agents, for The Tennessean. Players listed in alphabetical order:

Chris Davis

■ NFL seasons: 2.

■ The skinny: Davis caught just 5 passes for 38 yards last season and played because of injuries to other players late in the season.

■ Heimerdinger’s take: “He just has to be consistent catching the ball. Right now he is running pretty good routes. He has a good feel for what we are doing. But he has to block in the run, put his face in there and just stay consistent catching it, which he has been doing the last couple of weeks.’’

Biren Ealy

■ NFL seasons: 2.

■ The skinny: An undrafted free agent, Ealy was promoted to the active roster last season. He had only one catch, but got the coaching staff’s attention.

■ Heimerdinger’s take: “He is working on everything. He is working his butt off, working on run after the catch, turning it up hard and run blocking. He is doing some good things, but he is young and sometimes receivers are so worried about

routes and where they are supposed to be they forget about the run game.’’

Justin Gage

■ NFL seasons: 6.

■ The skinny: Gage tied for the team lead in receptions (55) and led the Titans in receiving yards (750) last season. He signed a new four-year deal in the offseason.

■ Heimerdinger’s take: “I like Justin’s work ethic. I like his hands; his technique is good. He is a very good player. He just has to keep working.’’

LaVelle Hawkins

■ NFL seasons: Rookie.

■ The skinny: Hawkins was a fourth-round draft pick by the team in April.

■ Heimerdinger’s take: “He has great quickness and great hands. As far as what he is supposed to be working on, it is going to be everything because it is going to come at him fast.’’

Brandon Jones

■ NFL seasons: 4.

■ The skinny: Jones is regarded as one of the team’s more talented receivers, but injuries and inconsistencies have kept him from taking off.

■ Heimerdinger’s take: “Brandon makes a big play every day, but he has to block in the run and he has to be consistent catching the ball. He can’t make a mental mistake every day. He has to keep concentrating. He has a good feel for things, but he can’t space out and has to catch the ball and not make mental mistakes.’’

Justin McCareins

■ NFL seasons: 8.

■ The skinny: McCareins had great success under Heimerdinger from 2001-03 with the Titans and signed a one-year deal to rejoin him.

■ Heimerdinger’s take: “He just has to keep doing what he is doing. This is the most relaxed I have seen him. He is not uptight every day like he used to be. The fun part with him is we have been together for so long he knows what I am doing. He is doing some really good things.’’

Mike Williams

■ NFL seasons: 4.

■ The skinny: After failed stints in Detroit and Oakland, an overweight Williams signed with the Titans last November. He looks better after losing more than 20 pounds earlier this offseason.

■ Heimerdinger’s take: “He has great ability. It’s a new scheme to him, a new thing, so he has to stay on top of what we are doing. And he has to keep working to stay in shape so he can run more than two routes in a row.’’

Paul Williams

■ NFL seasons: 2.

■ The skinny: A third-round draft pick in 2007, Williams was inactive all 16 games and became a forgotten man.

■ Heimerdinger’s take: “I like Paul’s size. I like his strength. I think Paul just needs to get more reps and keep seeing it and seeing it and seeing it. Everything is new for him, especially with the new stuff. He just has to settle down and be more consistent catching the ball and he has to stay on top of it studying.’’

 
I liked Heimerdinger's comments. Showed some enthusiasm or positive attitude and yet still things they need to work on

 

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