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Tennis - Sinner accepts three month ban - won't miss Roland Garros (1 Viewer)

This thing with Cilic and his racket stringing issues is bizarre and something I've never seen before. Just weird.

 
I wonder where Federer would rank if ESPN re-did their Sports Century series now. He & Serena have to be in the Top Ten or Twelve, right?

Here are the original Top 20:

1Michael JordanBasketball

2Babe RuthBaseball

3Muhammad AliBoxing

4Jim BrownFootball

5Wayne GretzkyIce hockey

6Jesse OwensTrack and field

7Jim ThorpeMultiple sports

8Willie MaysBaseball

9Jack NicklausGolf

10Babe ZahariasMultiple sports

11Joe LouisBoxing

12Carl LewisTrack and field

13Wilt ChamberlainBasketball

14Hank AaronBaseball

15Jackie RobinsonBaseball

16Ted WilliamsBaseball

17Magic JohnsonBasketball

18Bill RussellBasketball

19Martina NavratilovaTennis

20Ty CobbBaseball

 
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How can you not love this man...his 20th (twentieth!!) grand slam title and he's still getting choked up during victory speeches.  Dude just loves playing the game, it's amazing.  I cried at Andre's farewell speech, gonna be straight waterworks and probably a day off for mourning whenever FedEx does decide to call it a career (but let's hope we get another 2 years from him)

 
That was more stressful than it should have been, but I'm thrilled Roger got it done in another 5 setter.  His record in such matches has to have gotten much better.    I definitely think cilic will end his career with 2 to 3 major wins.  Great player.

Well done goat.  This was an important one to get given how the draw opened up

 
I wonder where Federer would rank if ESPN re-did their Sports Century series now. He & Serena have to be in the Top Ten or Twelve, right?

Here are the original Top 20:

1Michael JordanBasketball

2Babe RuthBaseball

3Muhammad AliBoxing

4Jim BrownFootball

5Wayne GretzkyIce hockey

6Jesse OwensTrack and field

7Jim ThorpeMultiple sports

8Willie MaysBaseball

9Jack NicklausGolf

10Babe ZahariasMultiple sports

11Joe LouisBoxing

12Carl LewisTrack and field

13Wilt ChamberlainBasketball

14Hank AaronBaseball

15Jackie RobinsonBaseball

16Ted WilliamsBaseball

17Magic JohnsonBasketball

18Bill RussellBasketball

19Martina NavratilovaTennis

20Ty CobbBaseball
Roger, Serena, and Rafa should all be on that list now

 
That was more stressful than it should have been, but I'm thrilled Roger got it done in another 5 setter.  His record in such matches has to have gotten much better.    I definitely think cilic will end his career with 2 to 3 major wins.  Great player.

Well done goat.  This was an important one to get given how the draw opened up
Hmm...way less restrained than I was expecting.  C'mon Dentist, Fed just bagged another major, are you not entertained? 

 
Winning three of the last five at this age is a) ridiculous under any circumstance, and b) an indictment of the two tennis generations behind him.

And yes... Roger belongs in the top 6 on that list above.  And Jim Brown needs to be replaced by Jerry Rice.

 
Hmm...way less restrained than I was expecting.  C'mon Dentist, Fed just bagged another major, are you not entertained? 
Hard to get as excited about the ao as other tournaments because I can't watch much.  Only match I saw was today's.   And it didn't have quite the drama as last year over Ralph.

Absolutely one he needed to win for the goat debate tho.

 
Federer just entered an ATP 500 this week to make a run at #1.  If he makes the SemiFinals, he's got number 1, even if only for a few weeks.

On one hand I'm pumped he's going to likely be #1 and smash the record for oldest number 1 ever.

On the other hand the last time he entered a tournament to go for #1 it was the Canadian Masters last year and that's when he blew out his back and ruined the rest of the US Open swing.

I was glad to hear he was talking about not playing much if any clay.. that's a good move..  the only way i'd deviate from that if I were Roger is if Ralph got hurt... in that case who else is going to beat Roger in a best of 5 on Clay?   Theim?   Everyone else is beat up.   As much as I root for Roger and love this new success.. it's not lost on me that it has occurred in part because Djoker and Murray are out of action and the young guys still can't get it together.

 
Going to Davis cup today to see Isner's 700mph serve!
Isner didn't even play.  :(   USA had already won so they just played one match (2 out of 3) Ryan Harrison won 6-3, 6-4 in unremarkable fashion.  Still fun atmosphere and had great seats so not a total loss.

 
i had a bad dream last night that Federer hurt his back during the Wimbledon final vs. Nadal and lost the match.  I woke up in a cold sweat.

It scares me that Nadal has made it this far in the tournament, has been untested, and is healthy... normally someone knocks him out by now.

I have high hopes for Del Potro tomorrow.. but he had to play a long set today to finish his match from yesterday.. might be gassed.

 
Not a "choke job". Fed is about to turn 37 and it is unreasonable to expect the kind of consistency he had ten years ago. He just went a little off-song after the first set, and Anderson went to a level he has never previously attained. Oh well, at least I won't have any conflicts during the World Cup final.

 
Not a "choke job". Fed is about to turn 37 and it is unreasonable to expect the kind of consistency he had ten years ago. He just went a little off-song after the first set, and Anderson went to a level he has never previously attained. Oh well, at least I won't have any conflicts during the World Cup final.
Defending champ, #1 seed, a guy who won two majors last year on his favorite surface/court in the world against a player who has never taking a set from him. Up two sets to none and had a match point in the third. While Anderson definitely raised his level of play, it was a choke job. 

 
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No. Never saw that coming... And then double gut punch that nadal is still alive.  My entire hope is on a less than full strength nole or probably isner.  

This tourney has become the same nightmare that the uso was last year

 
is there a separate thread for those actually playing the sport? i decided to return to tennis after a 25 year absence and need to be brought up to speed. 

 
Rafa down a set and a break in the second although it is early. He called for the trainer after the first to get his knee wrapped. Should be interesting.

 
Looking forward to Federer playing the madman Kyragos tomorrow. Would love to see a great match but Nicolas will probably wilt under the pressure.

 
Networks spend so much time on hyping Williams sister matches and they always turn out to be some of the worst tennis I've ever watched in my life

 
I assume Dentist is wearing out his DVR re-watching that shot.  Incredible.

 
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Who's on Dentist suicide watch tonight? :mellow:

He just didn't have it tonight, and that scrub played the match of his life.

 
That was one of the worst matches I've seen Roger play and he still should've taken a 2 sets to love lead in the second which probably would've taken the wind out of the guy's sails.

It's really ok because odds were not going to be great against Novak.

Now i just have to really hope someone beats Ralph.  

Such a weird year for Roger 

Wins ao and Rotterdam... Feeling great.

Then goes into Indian Wells and loses that match to delpo where he was up 40 15 on his serve with two match points... Really similar to tonight's second set 

Then donks Miami against a scrub and he had match points.   Wins a grass warm up, loses a grass warm up, loses in Wimbledon up 2 sets and has a match point in the third.

Cincy.. makes a final, gets crushed.

This really feels like his 2010 season.  

Overall the season is a success because of the ao, but it feels like his game declined after Indian Wells.   

I still feel blessed he came back and picked up 3 majors in the last two seasons.  Magical.  Sadly i still feel like he needs another one or two to keep the lead over Ralph.  But if novak is back and Ralph is still strong it's hard to see where he picks those up.

Gen next just can't arrive soon enough

 
That was one of the worst matches I've seen Roger play and he still should've taken a 2 sets to love lead in the second which probably would've taken the wind out of the guy's sails.

It's really ok because odds were not going to be great against Novak.

Now i just have to really hope someone beats Ralph.  

Such a weird year for Roger 

Wins ao and Rotterdam... Feeling great.

Then goes into Indian Wells and loses that match to delpo where he was up 40 15 on his serve with two match points... Really similar to tonight's second set 

Then donks Miami against a scrub and he had match points.   Wins a grass warm up, loses a grass warm up, loses in Wimbledon up 2 sets and has a match point in the third.

Cincy.. makes a final, gets crushed.

This really feels like his 2010 season.  

Overall the season is a success because of the ao, but it feels like his game declined after Indian Wells.   

I still feel blessed he came back and picked up 3 majors in the last two seasons.  Magical.  Sadly i still feel like he needs another one or two to keep the lead over Ralph.  But if novak is back and Ralph is still strong it's hard to see where he picks those up.

Gen next just can't arrive soon enough
If Novak wins here it will give him 14 Slams, he is a year younger than Nadal and health wise in a lot better shape to be at the top of tennis for a longer duration than Nadal. 

 
It seems he’s quickly entering the “one and done” phase, where, like Sampras, he plays to win one more major then calls it a career.  Not in the least discounting his still top level talent, but the cumulative effect of this year’s losses feel like Father Time taking a mini-break in the 5th set tiebreaker against Fed.  

 
If Novak wins here it will give him 14 Slams, he is a year younger than Nadal and health wise in a lot better shape to be at the top of tennis for a longer duration than Nadal. 
Not to mention that there is a lack of hard competition in the vein of a Fed or Nadal to challenge him after these 2 leave center stage. Sure there will be the occasional upsets from Zverev or Anderson - maybe Murray comes back. After that it's nada at the moment. He's going to have a greenfield to a number of Slam titles if he keeps himself healthy.

 
It seems he’s quickly entering the “one and done” phase, where, like Sampras, he plays to win one more major then calls it a career.  Not in the least discounting his still top level talent, but the cumulative effect of this year’s losses feel like Father Time taking a mini-break in the 5th set tiebreaker against Fed.  
It's hard to know where Federer's head is at right now.

Slam #20 and getting back to #1 almost seemed like they were the end games in a way, though I certainly still thought he could have competed for Wimbledon.

In 2012 Roger had an amazing season, got back to #1,  got the weeks at #1 title he'd been missing in his GOAT resume, won some masters.. and then the rails came off in 2013 and I thought were approaching the end of his career.   Obviously, i was wrong because he made Wimbledon finals in '14, '15, and USO final in '15.  Then the magic of '17 happened.

The problem with what I'm seeing on the court is that he's not using some of the same tactics he did last year.   I saw it even in the Cilic AO final that he got through, but could easily have lost.. and that could be a physical limitation or a little bit of father time.

It's one thing to lose a Cincy final or Indian Wells final to top level talent like Novak and DelPo,  but it's an entirely different thing to lose the matches he did at Wimbledon, the USO, Halle, and Miami.

Obviously moving into the fall swing and into next season you're still talking about a guy who's at worst in the top 4 to 5.   If Nadal got nicked up and Djoker were upset.. is there really anyone you'd pick to win a slam over Roger?

I personally see him playing through the 2020 Olympics (and USO) to represent his country once more since he missed '16.   It would be awesome if he could win the gold in that to complete one of the few pieces of hardware he doesn't have, but that's unlikely.

In 2015 if you'd have asked me I'd have said he had between 0 and 1 majors left in him.   So to see him get 3 was an unexpected dream.. to get anymore would be unbelievable, but I don't expect it.

I really thought Ralph's career would be done now due to wear and tear, but clearly it's not, so the sucky part is having to sweat out his career and maybe Novak's until they are done.   For Novak to get 6 more titles would be hard to imagine...  but it's not hard to see Ralph getting 3 if he really keeps playing relatively injury free.   Someone random like will surely come along and pick up a few majors to save the day for Roger.. kind of like Stan Wawrinka's 3 majors.. crazy unexpected.

 
It's hard to know where Federer's head is at right now.

Slam #20 and getting back to #1 almost seemed like they were the end games in a way, though I certainly still thought he could have competed for Wimbledon.

In 2012 Roger had an amazing season, got back to #1,  got the weeks at #1 title he'd been missing in his GOAT resume, won some masters.. and then the rails came off in 2013 and I thought were approaching the end of his career.   Obviously, i was wrong because he made Wimbledon finals in '14, '15, and USO final in '15.  Then the magic of '17 happened.

The problem with what I'm seeing on the court is that he's not using some of the same tactics he did last year.   I saw it even in the Cilic AO final that he got through, but could easily have lost.. and that could be a physical limitation or a little bit of father time.

It's one thing to lose a Cincy final or Indian Wells final to top level talent like Novak and DelPo,  but it's an entirely different thing to lose the matches he did at Wimbledon, the USO, Halle, and Miami.

Obviously moving into the fall swing and into next season you're still talking about a guy who's at worst in the top 4 to 5.   If Nadal got nicked up and Djoker were upset.. is there really anyone you'd pick to win a slam over Roger?

I personally see him playing through the 2020 Olympics (and USO) to represent his country once more since he missed '16.   It would be awesome if he could win the gold in that to complete one of the few pieces of hardware he doesn't have, but that's unlikely.

In 2015 if you'd have asked me I'd have said he had between 0 and 1 majors left in him.   So to see him get 3 was an unexpected dream.. to get anymore would be unbelievable, but I don't expect it.

I really thought Ralph's career would be done now due to wear and tear, but clearly it's not, so the sucky part is having to sweat out his career and maybe Novak's until they are done.   For Novak to get 6 more titles would be hard to imagine...  but it's not hard to see Ralph getting 3 if he really keeps playing relatively injury free.   Someone random like will surely come along and pick up a few majors to save the day for Roger.. kind of like Stan Wawrinka's 3 majors.. crazy unexpected.
I give Thiem a shot to win against Nadal in the Quarters. Ultimately, the game needs him, Kryrgios (get a ####### coach you dumb ###), Dimitrov and Zverev to step up and start winning majors. Also, Carreno-Busta would seem like a guy that perhaps could end Nadal's dominance on clay some day but the gap there is currently pretty wide.

 
Holy Cow... That was an incredible match. Sorry to see anyone lose. I love Fed but you have to give Nadal credit.. The guy is a beast..

 
Holy Cow... That was an incredible match. Sorry to see anyone lose. I love Fed but you have to give Nadal credit.. The guy is a beast..


I don't think I've ever seen a guy hit the ball harder than Theim did last night.  Just crushed the ball from both sides.  But Nadal just kept tracking them down, unbelievable.

 
Pretty sure Serena pees standing up. I mean, she was twice the size of her opponent and is built like a middle linebacker. Great player but zero chance she hasn’t been shot up with PEDs for years.

 

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