Terrell Owens (1 Viewer)

[two_dollars]

.. Chicago! He was with Jay Cutler - Greg Olsen - Lance Briggs.

He states he did not have an official visit at Halas Hall, but no doubt there was some informal courting going on..

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-be...-the-bears.html

 

[fruity pebbles]

Gotta say that would be a great location for him.

 

[jude]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

 

[simmonjm]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

 

[Sinrman]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

I like Devin (Aram and Hester actually), but they don't scare anyone. Add TO and they stretch the field a lot more. I think it would be a great landing spot for him.

 

[oukurt]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

I am not a big fan of his either but to say he is overrated is not right. He is a workout warrior. He will go way to late in drafts and I would expect him to put up decent WR2 type numbers should he land in the Martz offense. Make sure and sleep on him if you are drafting in my league.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I don't think he will be overpaid for his next contract.

His days of making big money are over.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

He had over 800 yds in Buffalo with no QB last year. How do you measure that he is done?

 

[candymanvandyfan]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

Absolutely. Really this is a matter of whether the Bears management considers this a winning year or a building year.

 

[finito]

Would be a good signing for them IMO. Owens isn't the stud he was but he is not washed up.

 

[Aardvarks]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

False and unfounded. Haters like to say TO is done physically but his body is more like a 32-year old. He has gas left in the tank, as evidenced by this play where he burned Aqib Talib last year... Talib was the best corner in college football in 2007. The baggage and the psychological stuff, no one will argue. Nut job. That's why he isn't signed yet. But he will sign a 1-year deal with someone. And he will average 14+ per catch, maybe another 800-900 yard season with enough targets. Cutler needs Owens.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

Dallas thought the same thing. He disrupted the team, caused controversy, and stalled the development of the young receivers. Why would Chicago go for that? It is not as if they are one player away and he is the final piece.

 

[fruity pebbles]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

Dallas thought the same thing. He disrupted the team, caused controversy, and stalled the development of the young receivers. Why would Chicago go for that? It is not as if they are one player away and he is the final piece.

He didn't really do any of that in Buffalo last season.

 

[jude]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

False and unfounded. Haters like to say TO is done physically but his body is more like a 32-year old. He has gas left in the tank, as evidenced by this play where he burned Aqib Talib last year... Talib was the best corner in college football in 2007. The baggage and the psychological stuff, no one will argue. Nut job. That's why he isn't signed yet. But he will sign a 1-year deal with someone. And he will average 14+ per catch, maybe another 800-900 yard season with enough targets. Cutler needs Owens.

you apparently didn't watch him last year. he is in steep decline and not nearly as fast as you think he still is. This guys quits on plays and he'll do it anywhere. CHI would be better off investing their money on some more linemen. TO has a good body, but this isn't a photoshoot. TO's will go under 900 receiving yards again anywhere he goes and the best you can hope for is a goal line receiver who snags a lot of TD's.

 

[jude]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

False and unfounded. Haters like to say TO is done physically but his body is more like a 32-year old. He has gas left in the tank, as evidenced by this play where he burned Aqib Talib last year... Talib was the best corner in college football in 2007. The baggage and the psychological stuff, no one will argue. Nut job. That's why he isn't signed yet. But he will sign a 1-year deal with someone. And he will average 14+ per catch, maybe another 800-900 yard season with enough targets. Cutler needs Owens.

Needs owens? Thats is a big ole stretch, frendo.

 

[Mikey16x]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

I have to disagree as well. Not saying he's going to ever have another 'career season' but over the hill is a stretch. A guy that keeps himself in that good of shape is going to decline a lot less rapidly then most. He keeps his body in tip top shape and let's you know it. He's not going to hit a wall, ever. He's going to decline slowly. He's not as fast as he once was to get the separation but that's not terrible considering his size. He's big enough to box out corner's like a rebound... he's built like a linebacker. He's no longer 'uncoverable' but I'd be willing to bet that he still gives the slightly above-average cornerback a run for his money with only a handful being able to fully cover him.

 

[domvin]

An 800 yard season in buffalo is the equivalent of a 1200 yard season elsewhere.

TO would flourish in chicago with Cutler. He could show the young wrs how to work and take care of their body

 

[ookook]

More important than Cutler might be Mike Martz. He has made some average receivers look downright good.

Owens is probably not quick enough any more to be a WR1 anywhere, but WR2 is not out of the question in terms of physical aspects.

Mental aspects, none can say.

 

[KCC]

TO would be a big improvement to Chicago's offense and Cutler's fantasy value. That will last until Cutler implodes late in a close game and TO gets asked a question about it, then the Chi-town media will eat him for breakfast.

 

[two_dollars]

They say Chicago is where WR's go to die. I would like to see TO die in chicago then..

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

TO drew a lot of defensive attention last year, but he clearly showed flashes even if he wasn't very consistent. I think he can definitely contribute, but he needs to play in an offense with much better surrounding talent than the Bills had.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I don't get the TO hate either. He's not "done".

Positives:

The man still produced 55/829/5. His 15.1 ypc last year was better than his career 14.9 ypc. He did this for a team with no QB. Poor Lee Evans has seen his career just wallow and die. He keeps his body in awesome shape. He also kept out of the papers and didn't throw anyone in Buffalo "under the bus".

Negatives:

You might think that he's a jerk, tool, doosh, cancer. He has a history of this. He's 36 years old. He's clearly past his prime. He has a history of dropping passes. A has been....an elite has been.

His numbers last year could be at least duplicated in the right system. He's looking for a one year/$5 million type deal. I think the team that pays him will get a reasonable return on thier investment. Compare that to what the Seahawks are paying TJ Housh for reference.

 

[simmonjm]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

Dallas thought the same thing. He disrupted the team, caused controversy, and stalled the development of the young receivers. Why would Chicago go for that? It is not as if they are one player away and he is the final piece.

TO was a saint in his first season in Dallas and led them to a 13-3 regular season record and a disappointing loss in playoffs to eventual champion Giants (still stings). If it werent for TO that team would have been lucky to make the playoffs. Furthermore TO helped Romo develop into the QB he is today albiet with some disruption but that was the reason Dallas got him for nothing which truth be told I would rather have a FA diva WR for 1-2 year rental instead of an underperforming WR like Roy Williams for a 1st and 3rd pick and long contract.

 

[Blackjacks]

I don't think TO fits in a Martz offense. He doesn't run great routes, has horrible hands and isn't really a possession guy.

 

[Tanner9919]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

good point!

 

[CaptainHook]

unlike harrison this guy has skills that don't decline as quickly. namely brute strength and size. i hope he catches on somewhere i love watching him play.

 

[thatguy]

On paper it's a great fit. My only concern would be potential problems between Jay and TO if things go bad. Fortunately, Jay showed with Marshall that he's fully capable of locking onto his best WR, and TO would most certainly fit the bill. So, even if Jay goes 25/40-350-2-4 in a losing effort, I expect TO will still get his, and be happy.

I have to imagine this potential union has both Cutler and Owens foaming at the mouth...

 

[Mark Wimer]

TO drew a lot of defensive attention last year, but he clearly showed flashes even if he wasn't very consistent. I think he can definitely contribute, but he needs to play in an offense with much better surrounding talent than the Bills had.

Fantasy production/value (like real estate value) is always linked to location. The Bills' offense was a shambles last year (OL injuries, QB injuries, Marshawn Lynch's decline, horrid defense make them play from behind, etc.). I think TO is still a fantasy WR #2 IF he lands in the right situation. I can see him being a solid #15-20 type WR in Chicago, and due to his off year in Buffalo you may pick him up at WR#3 or #4 position in your draft. Again, depending where he lands, I may roll the dice on him this year.

I've been a detractor of T.O. for years (I think he was over-valued, consistently, for many years due to owners not weighing in his personality deficits/conflict-seeking behaviors enough). Now that he's no longer a "dominant" receiver, I think you can "price in" the weird personality risks (possible suicide attempts, high-risk partying in Miami and other locales, and etc.) and still get a potential WR 2 at a discounted draft position. But there is definitely significant downside risk with T.O., too. I won't go for him before WR #4, personally.

 

[Avery]

On paper it's a great fit. My only concern would be potential problems between Jay and TO if things go bad. Fortunately, Jay showed with Marshall that he's fully capable of locking onto his best WR, and TO would most certainly fit the bill. So, even if Jay goes 25/40-350-2-4 in a losing effort, I expect TO will still get his, and be happy.

I dunno.Hes probably an upgrade to anything the Bears currently have at WR, but he doesn't seem to fit the mold of a typical Martz WR.

 

[mbuehner]

Will he disrupt the defense or the lockerroom more? That is the question. On paper its a no-brainer- they need a guy who understands the position, can draw some attention and free up the quick young guys, and might get you a game breaker or two over the course of the season. But Cutler, Martz, and TO- on the one hand its gasoline on top of dynamite, but on the other you have three guys accused of not being good team players... check that- three guys that have been bad teammates at times. Just maybe you catch lightening in a bottle and they all pull in the same direction.

For the Bears... I guess it depends on what you think of their prospects this year. Some people are convinced that with Urlacher back and a potentially revitalized running back corp, you're right in the divisional picture. I happen to think that with a deeply suspect o-line, one of the worst WR corps in football (face it, its true), and relying on a rookie (if he makes it on the field) to patch that hemorrhaging safety position, you just aren't going to win this division with the Vikes and Packers. Yeah- you might beat each of them, but you're going to lose games you should have won and it will offset. Thats the way its been with this team. On the other hand, a professional WR on the roster fixing one big whole, and if TO even plays as well as he did last season you instantly have a pretty potent passing game that can overcome mistakes that would kill you last year (or this year if they don't improve much). I'd probably do it, but I think this is a 7-9 team otherwise, so if you think they are playoff bound I'm sure you want no part of Owens.

 

[thatguy]

On paper it's a great fit. My only concern would be potential problems between Jay and TO if things go bad. Fortunately, Jay showed with Marshall that he's fully capable of locking onto his best WR, and TO would most certainly fit the bill. So, even if Jay goes 25/40-350-2-4 in a losing effort, I expect TO will still get his, and be happy.

I dunno.Hes probably an upgrade to anything the Bears currently have at WR, but he doesn't seem to fit the mold of a typical Martz WR.

That's true. But if you can bring in a TO, assuming he still has his skills (and I think he does to some extent), you should be smart enough to tweak your scheme to fit his strengths. They do have players in Hester and Knox who can stretch the field in the traditional mold of a Martz WR, but TO would give them another dimension that would really open things up downfield.

 

[Avery]

On paper it's a great fit. My only concern would be potential problems between Jay and TO if things go bad. Fortunately, Jay showed with Marshall that he's fully capable of locking onto his best WR, and TO would most certainly fit the bill. So, even if Jay goes 25/40-350-2-4 in a losing effort, I expect TO will still get his, and be happy.

I dunno.Hes probably an upgrade to anything the Bears currently have at WR, but he doesn't seem to fit the mold of a typical Martz WR.

That's true. But if you can bring in a TO, assuming he still has his skills (and I think he does to some extent), you should be smart enough to tweak your scheme to fit his strengths. They do have players in Hester and Knox who can stretch the field in the traditional mold of a Martz WR, but TO would give them another dimension that would really open things up downfield.

True, Martz should be smart enough to tweak his system, just like he should be smart enough to tweak his system to take advantage of Olson, but will he?Great coaches adjust they system to take advantage of the players they have. Don Shula comes to mind running a grind it out ball control offense when he had Csonka and Morris to lean on and switching tactics when he had Marino's arm to lead an offense.

Good coaches try to change personnel to fit into their offensive system.

So is Martz a "good" coach or a "great" coach?

 

[Statcruncher]

Please don't let Chicago sign him. Even if I could overlook the fact that's he's a completely selfish and childish tool, he is at best a stop gap. There is alot of young WR talent on the team that needs to be evaluated. We all know you can't evaluate them in practice, games are a whole different level. Don't let TO be a progress stopper and force them to sit on the bench for another year. Let the young guys play and deal with the inevitable growing pains to find out which are keepers and which are not NFL caliber. TO is not the answer.

 

[Da Guru]

At this point in his career the 37 year old Owens is a one year stop-gap WR. Owens could help a team that is ready to win now, but none of those types of teams want to take on any problems. Chicago is not ready to win now and should develop their own WRS, or trade for a Brandon Marshall type that has 6-8 years of a future. Also thought that Boldin would have been a nice fit in Chicago.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

I have to disagree as well. Not saying he's going to ever have another 'career season' but over the hill is a stretch. A guy that keeps himself in that good of shape is going to decline a lot less rapidly then most. He keeps his body in tip top shape and let's you know it. He's not going to hit a wall, ever. He's going to decline slowly. He's not as fast as he once was to get the separation but that's not terrible considering his size. He's big enough to box out corner's like a rebound... he's built like a linebacker. He's no longer 'uncoverable' but I'd be willing to bet that he still gives the slightly above-average cornerback a run for his money with only a handful being able to fully cover him.

I agree. If he re-invented himself into an over the middle possession type WR he could really help in Chicago. He has lost a step and at times has more trouble getting past the jam at the line then he did in his heyday, but he can still play a little. 800 yards in Buffalo with no o-line and putrid QB play shows he still can do the job.If he was willing to work underneath making the tough catches while Hester, Knox and Aromashandu stretch the filed - he makes that offense better.

 

[Warpig]

If so, this is typical Martz madness. Let's keep bringing in more and more mediocre WRs in hopes of recapturing the allure of the late 90's Rams and don't concern yourself with protecting the QB. Doesn't matter how many WRs you can throw on the field Martz, if you can't keep your QB upright.

Martz, like TO, is overrated.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Mr. Owens, we'd like to introduce you to your new roommate, Brian Urlacher, you two have fun on the road trips and locker room banter.

 

[TommyGilmore]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

Last year Owens had 55/829 with one of the worst passing games in the league. There's no reason to think that he can't better those numbers with Cutler. Last year's top Chicago receiver had 757 yards!!!

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

Dallas thought the same thing. He disrupted the team, caused controversy, and stalled the development of the young receivers. Why would Chicago go for that? It is not as if they are one player away and he is the final piece.

Says the Packer fan

 

[JamesTheScot]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

I like Devin (Aram and Hester actually), but they don't scare anyone. Add TO and they stretch the field a lot more. I think it would be a great landing spot for him.

How does a guy who can't get off the press help stretch the field?How many games did it take for Miles Austin to start scaring people last year?

How many games has it been since TO has scared anyone? Other than his own team, I mean.

Chicago doesn't need TO to stretch the field. And if the Devins are for real, people will get scared of them on their own merits.

 

[Todem]

He will catch 80 plus balls for over 1K yards and 8 TD's in the Windy City.

Great landing spot for TO who is not washed up. It has been stated ad nausem what he managed to do in a horrific Bills offense. I mean g-d awful.

Cutler to Owens? Yeah that will work.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

I like Devin (Aram and Hester actually), but they don't scare anyone. Add TO and they stretch the field a lot more. I think it would be a great landing spot for him.

How does a guy who can't get off the press help stretch the field?How many games did it take for Miles Austin to start scaring people last year?

How many games has it been since TO has scared anyone? Other than his own team, I mean.

Chicago doesn't need TO to stretch the field. And if the Devins are for real, people will get scared of them on their own merits.

That's the problem they probably aren't. Devin Hester hasn't "found" a position he is good at in college or the NFL...he isn't young anymore...and should go back to returning full time as well as some WR.

DA has bounced around to a few teams and had a good 4 game stretch at the end of the season(see Chaz Schilens hype or any of those types of players).

TO is established.....he produces both on and off the field. But at least he is proven.

 

[JamesTheScot]

TO drew a lot of defensive attention last year, but he clearly showed flashes even if he wasn't very consistent. I think he can definitely contribute, but he needs to play in an offense with much better surrounding talent than the Bills had.

What you describe is what I look for in a young receiver who's skills are on the upswing...not an aging receiver who's skills are on the decline. I'll wager that a young guy is improving and that those flashes become a steady burn. With a guy on the downswing like TO, you're just hoping those flashes don't blow out while he's on your roster.So, no thanks. I'd grab him if he slides to my WR4 spot, but I certainly wouldn't take him as my WR2 and I'd still be cautious even at the WR3 spot.

Sure Buffalo was bad. But Cutler put up some stinkers last year as well - and it was on him, not his WR's, in most of those games. He just plain played poorly at times. And was Forte any better than Jackson Lynch? If Owens caught 800 in Buffalo and Chicago's best WR didn't hit that, I'm not sure there's a lot of upside for TO there.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

TO drew a lot of defensive attention last year, but he clearly showed flashes even if he wasn't very consistent. I think he can definitely contribute, but he needs to play in an offense with much better surrounding talent than the Bills had.

What you describe is what I look for in a young receiver who's skills are on the upswing...not an aging receiver who's skills are on the decline. I'll wager that a young guy is improving and that those flashes become a steady burn. With a guy on the downswing like TO, you're just hoping those flashes don't blow out while he's on your roster.So, no thanks. I'd grab him if he slides to my WR4 spot, but I certainly wouldn't take him as my WR2 and I'd still be cautious even at the WR3 spot.

Sure Buffalo was bad. But Cutler put up some stinkers last year as well - and it was on him, not his WR's, in most of those games. He just plain played poorly at times. And was Forte any better than Jackson Lynch? If Owens caught 800 in Buffalo and Chicago's best WR didn't hit that, I'm not sure there's a lot of upside for TO there.

Who had a sprained knee in week 3 and played on it all year....and who did not?Cutler did have some bad throws....but the young WR's weren't on the same page at times either.

One of the main things TO can do is run block that nobody is mentioning.

 

[JamesTheScot]

he's donzo. no matter where he goes, he'll be overrated, overpaid, and over the hill.

Even at this point in his career I would take TO over any of the Chicago WR's.

I like Devin (Aram and Hester actually), but they don't scare anyone. Add TO and they stretch the field a lot more. I think it would be a great landing spot for him.

How does a guy who can't get off the press help stretch the field?How many games did it take for Miles Austin to start scaring people last year?

How many games has it been since TO has scared anyone? Other than his own team, I mean.

Chicago doesn't need TO to stretch the field. And if the Devins are for real, people will get scared of them on their own merits.

That's the problem they probably aren't. Devin Hester hasn't "found" a position he is good at in college or the NFL...he isn't young anymore...and should go back to returning full time as well as some WR.

DA has bounced around to a few teams and had a good 4 game stretch at the end of the season(see Chaz Schilens hype or any of those types of players).

TO is established.....he produces both on and off the field. But at least he is proven.

So's Torry Holt - and he knows the Martz system. How good did you think Holt was going to be last year?TO could have more left in the tank. But with guys at his age, when they start to decline, I'm not willing to risk much on them. It isn't just Buffalo, TO was looking bad in 2008. Look what a younger, raw WR like Austin was able to do in 2009 with those looks? Is Austin that good, or was TO really that bad?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

That's the problem they probably aren't. Devin Hester hasn't "found" a position he is good at in college or the NFL...he isn't young anymore...and should go back to returning full time as well as some WR.

DA has bounced around to a few teams and had a good 4 game stretch at the end of the season(see Chaz Schilens hype or any of those types of players).

TO is established.....he produces both on and off the field. But at least he is proven.

So's Torry Holt - and he knows the Martz system. How good did you think Holt was going to be last year?TO could have more left in the tank. But with guys at his age, when they start to decline, I'm not willing to risk much on them. It isn't just Buffalo, TO was looking bad in 2008. Look what a younger, raw WR like Austin was able to do in 2009 with those looks? Is Austin that good, or was TO really that bad?

When Lovie Smith/Angelo is on the hott seat.....they went out and signed 30 + age FA's in Peppers and Chester Taylor....an older blocking TE...not really looking like they are building for young guys.They have to win now or they are gone.....it is worth the risk.

 

[mbuehner]

They have to win now or they are gone.....it is worth the risk.

Good point. Angelo and Lovey don't have another year to evaluate WR talent... and for that matter i don't think its a good practice to evaluate whether your players can be in the NFL by starting a bunch of them at the same position- at least if you claim you're a legitimate playoff contender. Let your scouts do their jobs and have some guys ready to go day 1, or its gonna be another tough year for that QB you invested so much in.

 

[whitem0nkey]

Chicago is the 3rd largest city in the US, lots of FAs and celebrities come here and it has nothing to do with them playing for a Chicago team.

now if the story was TO seen in Cleveland sure, who goes to Cleveland for fun? odds would be high that maybe the browns have interest.

TO being seen in LA, Chicago or NY does not do it for me, this is below rumor status.

that said I dont think TO is a good fit for what the bears are doing, they need WR to be real fast, and be able to make SHARP 90 degree cuts. I dont think TO's skill set match the bears needs.

 

[whitem0nkey]

If so, this is typical Martz madness. Let's keep bringing in more and more mediocre WRs in hopes of recapturing the allure of the late 90's Rams and don't concern yourself with protecting the QB. Doesn't matter how many WRs you can throw on the field Martz, if you can't keep your QB upright.

Martz, like TO, is overrated.

your comment is not relevant only to Martz, I dont care what system you run, if you got a horrible line it does not work.

 

[Eminence]

Chicago Homer here... I would love to add T.O to our roster.