TEs suck (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Outside of a few, the position sucks. I’ve started Dawson Knox several times this year and now Foster freaking Moreau. Rough year for TEs. Makes you want to join a TE support group. ill be glad to kick him to the curb with Waller coming back next week. Probably would anyway. It’s not like he’s earned starts

 

[Insein]

This has absolutely been the worst year in memory for TEs. I started Taysom Hill for 7 straight weeks until last week and then he scored a TD making him the 5th highest score for TE in the week and he's still 5th for the season at the position.

 

[mr roboto]

I’ve tried Otten, Henry, Conklin, T Hill and someone else this year. I’ve had exactly 1 game over 10 pts. PPR too

 

[Leroy Hoard]

It might not be for everyone, but consider getting rid of them and just group them with WRs/Flex.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

The reason I drafted Kelce so much this year

 

[cockroach]

I was looking for TE help last week and noticed that despite leaving the game in the first and then missing 2 or 3 games, Errz was still like TE3. Absolute wasteland this year.

 

[JohnnyU]

I was looking for TE help last week and noticed that despite leaving the game in the first and then missing 2 or 3 games, Errz was still like TE3. Absolute wasteland this year.

It might not be for everyone, but consider getting rid of them and just group them with WRs/Flex.

Kickers is one thing, but I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t pass in most leagues..

 

[Drake Hater]

Not sure why any non PPR league would carry them. Total waste if you don't have one of the top 3. Injuries make it even worse. Basically just hoping for more than 0 points every week.

 

[tricky92]

I do think Cole Kmet will be a nice surprise during the fantasy playoffs if he's out there.

 

[JohnnyU]

I do think Cole Kmet will be a nice surprise during the fantasy playoffs if he's out there.

Have him and Dulcich in one league and I consider myself blessed

 

[ShamrockPride]

It might not be for everyone, but consider getting rid of them and just group them with WRs/Flex.

This is the easiest way to officially kill the position from a fantasy perspective.

 

[TheWinz]

2022 - 21, 14, 13, 12, 11, 11, 11, 11, 9, 9, 9, 9
2021 - 18, 17, 14, 14, 12, 12, 12, 11, 11, 11, 10, 10
2020 - 21, 18, 16, 12, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 10, 10
2019 - 16, 16, 15, 14, 14, 14, 14, 13, 12, 12, 11, 10
2018 - 19, 18, 16, 14, 12, 12, 11, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10

Fantasy PPG for TE's 1 thru 12 for the last 5 years. If just one TE could kinda keep pace with Kelce this year, the overall numbers would look similar to previous years.

 

[efactor]

It might not be for everyone, but consider getting rid of them and just group them with WRs/Flex.

I get that but like the draft day strategy of who will splurge for Kelce and Andrews and who will take Kittle and Waller too early. Always fun to watch

 

[zamboni]

I understand the argument for getting rid of the TE position, but I like the opportunity to gain an advantage by hitting on the position. The value of guys like Kelce and Andrews would sink like a stone - it’s nice to have that value with them.

 

[joey]

Hockenson was great value this year for me in auction where I took him as the 11th TE off the board, last in the jumbled up tier of TE 6-12 this year.

ETA: basically, I guessed right :|

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Just for context, in my non ppr MFL league here are the current rankings of the top 10 TEs when grouped with the WRs on a total points basis:

Kelce #3
Taysom Hill #11
Mark Andrews #24
T.J. Hock #32
Cole Kmet #44
Zach Ertz #46
Dallas Goedert #51
Juwan Johnson #52
George Kittle #53
Pat Freiermuth #61

 

[Banger]

kelce is a cheat code …. He’s like having an additional player in your lineup.

That’s the biggest change in my strategy that has helped the most…targeting top TEs and getting that stability at that position. I can find wr’s / rb’s….funny enough though my biggest miss this year was Pitts. I left every draft with either Kelce or Pitts…and Pitts was an anchor….but in a year like this though for TE he didn’t kill my team despite the miss…if he hits he’s a league winner.

 

[Ardbeg4ever]

TE1	35.6​
TE2	-27.8​
TE3	-15.3​
TE4	-20.5​
TE5	-25.8​
TE6	-16.1​
TE7	-10.1​
TE8	-7.4​
TE9	-5.9​
TE10	-10.2​
TE11	-9.2​
TE12	-9.9​

Delta of 2022 TE's thru week 13 vs avg of last 5 seasons

 

[GreenNGold]

It sounds like some of you need to get chiggy with it!

 

[Sarlakticacid]

Have started a TE in my flex twice this year and come out victorious










Only due to my opponent crapping the bed

 

[wgoldsph]

Making my Taysom Hill obsession look better by the year. Signed him for the longest contract I could back when Brees was still alive.

 

[Runkle]

Picked up Taysom Hill and Dallas Goedert already this week, and probably Waller next week, just to have someone to plug in

 

[Down Under]

I could have picked up Engram in two leagues, but I stayed with Dulcich, cuz projections.

 

[rockaction]

Chiggy, Njoku, and Engram having monster days.

 

[JohnnyU]

Chiggy, Njoku, and Engram having monster days.

They needed this thread

who is Chiggy?

 

[TripleThreat]

I was looking for TE help last week and noticed that despite leaving the game in the first and then missing 2 or 3 games, Errz was still like TE3. Absolute wasteland this year.

It might not be for everyone, but consider getting rid of them and just group them with WRs/Flex.

Kickers is one thing, but I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t pass in most leagues..

I couldn’t even get the ban the kickers deal passed

 

[rockaction]

who is Chiggy?

Chigoziem Okonkwo - TE - TEN

 

[JohnnyU]

who is Chiggy?

Chigoziem Okonkwo - TE - TEN

Volunteers?

 

[Loipz]

Chiggy, Njoku, and Engram having monster days.

Feels nice to hit on all 3 after Conklins awful game the week before

 

[Don Quixote]

It sounds like some of you need to get chiggy with it!

Na-na, na, na, na-na-na-na.

 

[BobbyLayne]

started Dulcich over Engram



no problem I didn’t want the bye

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Mike Clay@MikeClayNFL

Evan Engram somehow scored 39 fantasy points today and now sits
- get ready for this
- FOURTH in total fantasy points scored by a TE this season.

 

[rick6668]

Wondering if there might be value to Jeff Driscol - Houston. He's listed as QB,TE eligible. Had 33 snaps yesterday. No idea what his usage will be going forward, but could be a huge advantage at TE if he plays.

 

[Runkle]

Checked and Driskel is QB only on CBS. Might be a Yahoo thing.

 

[menobrown]

Mike Clay@MikeClayNFL

Evan Engram somehow scored 39 fantasy points today and now sits
- get ready for this
- FOURTH in total fantasy points scored by a TE this season.

Had to check my FFPC TE premium leagues and he's also 4th in total points, 9th on average, just 3.238 PPG behind #2 Mark Andrews.

I started him in a playoff game in this format yesterday. He might save a teams season that had Huntley and Tee in the lineup.Though I did spend a portion of the day pretty sore in a FFPC ME he was my option if Barkley was out.

Own him in 3 FFPC dynasty leagues and in at least two of them had every intention of cutting him this off-season and other one was 50/50. Actaully cut him in one of those leagues during last off season cuts and drafted him back in the late third round of the rookie/FA draft. I feel like I got to start him next week now but if I'm being honest I can't say I'm through the roof confident as much as I feel like I got to.

 

[rick6668]

Checked and Driskel is QB only on CBS. Might be a Yahoo thing.

Yeah, definitely Yahoo, wasn't sure about others

 

[Down Under]

Wondering if there might be value to Jeff Driscol - Houston. He's listed as QB,TE eligible. Had 33 snaps yesterday. No idea what his usage will be going forward, but could be a huge advantage at TE if he plays.

Wow - what a potential exploitative loophole. Both of my local leagues are on Yahoo. Hmmmm....that would probably piss off some people.

 

[rick6668]

Driskel added to Texans 53-man roster. KPRC2's Aaron Wilson reports that the Texans are "expected" to keep using both Davis Mills and Jeff Driskel next week.

Driskel was on the field for 33 snaps and was primarily used as a rushing threat, recording seven carries for 36 yards while completing four of six pass attempts for 48 yards and a touchdown.
He took Red Zone snaps as well.

Could do worse than this shot at TE in yahoo leagues.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Week 15

GOOD MATCHUPS

• Greg Dulcich
• Dawson Knox
• Gerald Everett
• Tyler Conklin
• Dalton Schultz

BAD MATCHUPS

• Daniel Bellinger
• Dallas Goedert
• Evan Engram
• Mark Andrews
• Darren Waller

 

[JohnnyU]

Week 15

GOOD MATCHUPS

• Greg Dulcich
• Dawson Knox
• Gerald Everett
• Tyler Conklin
• Dalton Schultz

BAD MATCHUPS

• Daniel Bellinger
• Dallas Goedert
• Evan Engram
• Mark Andrews
• Darren Waller

Wilson isn't playing and the Broncos offense is hard to trust anyway. Goedert usage may be limited coming off that injury, so I'm playing Engram instead. I currently have Waller over Dulcich, but Waller wasn't exactly setting the woods on fire when he went down.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Week 15

GOOD MATCHUPS

• Greg Dulcich
• Dawson Knox
• Gerald Everett
• Tyler Conklin
• Dalton Schultz

BAD MATCHUPS

• Daniel Bellinger
• Dallas Goedert
• Evan Engram
• Mark Andrews
• Darren Waller

Wilson isn't playing and the Broncos offense is hard to trust anyway. Goedert usage may be limited coming off that injury, so I'm playing Engram instead. I currently have Waller over Dulcich, but Waller wasn't exactly setting the woods on fire when he went down.

good luck this weekend

• in Rypien's other start this year (Jets), Dulcich saw a season high 9 targets (6-51)
• Courtland Sutton is out
• Dulcich ran 39 routes last week and has 249 RR on the season (31.1 /g); the other Top 4 in RR for TEs are Kelce averaging 32.5, Hockenson 31.0, Engram 30.6
• Dallas is 31st in FF points allowed to TEs (full PPR) - 8.31. They've allowed one (1) double digit TE this season
• Arizona allows the most FF points to TEs - 18.62. The next highest is SEA at 15.88. Hunter Henry was the 11th TE (in 13 G) to score double digit points against them

 

[JohnnyU]

Week 15

GOOD MATCHUPS

• Greg Dulcich
• Dawson Knox
• Gerald Everett
• Tyler Conklin
• Dalton Schultz

BAD MATCHUPS

• Daniel Bellinger
• Dallas Goedert
• Evan Engram
• Mark Andrews
• Darren Waller

Wilson isn't playing and the Broncos offense is hard to trust anyway. Goedert usage may be limited coming off that injury, so I'm playing Engram instead. I currently have Waller over Dulcich, but Waller wasn't exactly setting the woods on fire when he went down.

good luck this weekend

• in Rypien's other start this year (Jets), Dulcich saw high 9 targets (6-51)
• Courtland Sutton is out
• Dulcich ran 39 routes last week and has 249 RR on the season (31.1 /g); the other Top 4 in RR are Kelce averages 32.5, Hockenson 31.0, Engram 30.6
• Dallas is 31st in FF points allowed to TEs (full PPR) - 8.31. They've allowed one (1) double digit TE this season
• Arizona allows the most FF points to TEs - 18.62. The next highest is SEA at 15.88. Hunter Henry was the 11th TE (in 13 G) to score double digit points against them

I put Dulcich back in over Waller. Like I said, Waller wasn that good before his injury. You’re argument about Dulcich and the Cardinals defense vs TEs was compelling. I’m going to stay with Engram over Goedert however. Maybe I’ll change that next week if I’m still in the playoffs and Goedert shows something this week. He’s a wait and see IMO.

 

[cockroach]

Juwan Johnson has a good matchup if his ankle is good to go. Troutman is also questionable.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Week 15

GOOD MATCHUPS

• Greg Dulcich
• Dawson Knox
• Gerald Everett
• Tyler Conklin
• Dalton Schultz

BAD MATCHUPS

• Daniel Bellinger
• Dallas Goedert
• Evan Engram
• Mark Andrews
• Darren Waller

Wilson isn't playing and the Broncos offense is hard to trust anyway. Goedert usage may be limited coming off that injury, so I'm playing Engram instead. I currently have Waller over Dulcich, but Waller wasn't exactly setting the woods on fire when he went down.

good luck this weekend

• in Rypien's other start this year (Jets), Dulcich saw high 9 targets (6-51)
• Courtland Sutton is out
• Dulcich ran 39 routes last week and has 249 RR on the season (31.1 /g); the other Top 4 in RR are Kelce averages 32.5, Hockenson 31.0, Engram 30.6
• Dallas is 31st in FF points allowed to TEs (full PPR) - 8.31. They've allowed one (1) double digit TE this season
• Arizona allows the most FF points to TEs - 18.62. The next highest is SEA at 15.88. Hunter Henry was the 11th TE (in 13 G) to score double digit points against them

I put Dulcich back in over Waller. Like I said, Waller wasn that good before his injury. You’re argument about Dulcich and the Cardinals defense vs TEs was compelling. I’m going to stay with Engram over Goedert however. Maybe I’ll change that next week if I’m still in the playoffs.

I am starting Greg D over EE but….hard to feel super confident.

Most of the stuff I cited is peripherals. Long term I think he’s the real deal. But actual production, right now? He had that nice 3-game start and it’s been mostly duds since.

8 targets the last two. Finally had a good game v @bal (6-85) WK 13 but the average of WKs 10-12 + 14 is a paltry 4.85 PPG.

Hopefully it works out in the quarterfinals.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Juwan Johnson has a good matchup if his ankle is good to go. Troutman is also questionable.

Definitely a good one if he was healthy. Three limited practices this week.

We always say TDs are variable but he’s been pretty consistent in the RZ. 8 targets insane 50% conversion rate.

 

[cockroach]

Hayden Hurst is out for Cincinnati, who is getting the start today and are they any good?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Every time I get a bye someone on my team blows up real good. Could it be Taysom time.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Every time I get a bye someone on my team blows up real good. Could it be Taysom time.

 

[rick6668]

Juwan Johnson has a good matchup if his ankle is good to go. Troutman is also questionable.

I should have taken this advice