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Texans Release Eric Moulds (1 Viewer)
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bostonfred
Footballguy
I think he'd be a good fit in New England if he doesn't have huge contract demands. He's played on some pretty bad teams in his career so he might be willing to sign cheaply for a chance to play for a contender. He wouldn't solve the Patriots' need for a speed receiver, but it'd be great to get a vet with sure hands who can run routes and mentor the young guys.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
The likely case is a free agent will come in to start opposite AJ, but I wonder if they'd give Mathis a shot.
He needs to get healthy (and stay away from motorcycles.) He managed to play 2 whole games last year before getting re-injured.
Finatic
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I was at the playoff game where he shredded the Miami defense for 250 yds and I think 2-3TD...sick game, Flutie was on fire...Miami won by the skin of their teeth, the next week they got steamrolled in Denver.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
It's common for fantasy players to look back on the gaudy statistics of years past and think there's more left in the tank, but seeing Moulds play last year it was obvious to me he was about done. He has lost what speed he did have. As the first post said, he no longer can separate. I took on two orphaned dynasty teams this offseason, he was on both of them, and I cut him from both pretty quick, weeks ago.
Houston isn't exactly WR-rich, so if they thought he was an asset rather than a liability I think they would have reworked something so they could keep him. He's no longer starter material at 34 IMO, and if he catches on with another team it will be in a reduced role.
Houston isn't exactly WR-rich, so if they thought he was an asset rather than a liability I think they would have reworked something so they could keep him. He's no longer starter material at 34 IMO, and if he catches on with another team it will be in a reduced role.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Good points CP. Agree with your observations.
Art_VanDalay
Footballguy
...besides I think that Moulds only puts up decent numbers in EVEN years so don't expect much wherever he goes for 2007 
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Also, if they were saving a bunch of cap money, one might believe it wasn't performance-related so much. But according to the qoute in the first post they will be taking a hit, not saving money, to rid themselves of him. To me that would be a big red flag even if I hadn't seen the decline in his ability myself.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
He had Yancey Thigpen disease....besides I think that Moulds only puts up decent numbers in EVEN years so don't expect much wherever he goes for 2007
Yancey was an odd-year guy.
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| 1994 pit | 15 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 36 546 15.2 4 || 1995 pit | 16 | 1 1 1.0 0 | 85 1307 15.4 5 || 1996 pit | 6 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 12 244 20.3 2 || 1997 pit | 16 | 1 3 3.0 0 | 79 1398 17.7 7 || 1998 ten | 9 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 38 493 13.0 3 |Actually, for a team like the Texans, I think the salary cap hit might actually be less of an issue that "real" dollars. Salary cap hits are for money that is already out the door, i.e. a pro-rated bonus, so if a team like the Texans can easily afford the cap hit, it means that they don't have to pay real $$$ to Moulds in 2007.For a team like the Redskins where cap hits matter, they might actually decide to pay a guy $2 million for 2007 even though he sucks because they need the extra $3 million in "fake" cap space. That means that Snyder would eat the $2 million cash in 2007 to keep the pro-rated bonus from accelerating.I know in Moulds case, you are probably right, he isn't worth keeping at any amount, but teams not in cap trouble probably don't care as much about cap hits as they do real $$$.
Delusions Of Adequacy
Footballguy
Did you ever consider that both Moulds and Carr aren't very good at this point?9.9 ypr is not a sign of qb ineptitude. It's a sign that your receiver can't seperate, and therefore has no yards after the catch.
Domination
Footballguy
I could see him going back to Buffalo. He would be a great compliment to Evans and his speed.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Most receiving yards in year N+1 by WRs who in year N at age 31 or older, played in 12 or more games, and had 650 or fewer receiving yards:
The last three columns represent the Year N+1 production (that would be Moulds, 2007). The first columns represent Year N production (Moulds, 2006).
The last three columns represent the Year N+1 production (that would be Moulds, 2007). The first columns represent Year N production (Moulds, 2006).
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Name Year Age Tm GP Rec Yd TD Rec Yd TDEric Moulds 2006 33 htx 15 57 557 1 -- --- -Frank Lewis 1980 33 buf 15 40 648 6 70 1244 4Anthony Carter 1992 32 min 16 41 580 2 60 775 5James Lofton 1989 33 buf 12 8 166 3 35 712 4Nat Moore 1984 33 mia 16 43 573 6 51 701 7Woodley Lewis 1957 32 crd 12 21 424 5 46 690 4Ken Kavanaugh 1948 32 chi 12 18 352 6 29 655 9Andre Rison 1999 32 kan 15 21 218 0 41 606 6Art Monk 1993 36 was 16 41 398 2 46 581 3Cliff Branch 1981 33 rai 16 41 635 1 30 575 4Nat Moore 1983 32 mia 16 39 558 6 43 573 6Bobby Walston 1960 32 phi 12 30 563 4 34 569 2Ricky Proehl 2000 32 ram 12 31 441 4 40 563 5Irving Fryar 1999 37 was 16 26 254 2 41 548 5Don Maynard 1971 36 nyj 14 21 408 2 29 510 2Ricky Proehl 2003 35 car 16 27 389 4 34 497 0Elbie Nickel 1954 32 pit 12 40 584 5 36 488 2Stanley Morgan 1988 33 nwe 16 31 502 4 28 486 3Elroy Hirsch 1956 33 ram 12 35 603 6 32 477 6Troy Brown 2004 33 nwe 12 17 184 1 39 466 2Ricky Proehl 2001 33 ram 16 40 563 5 43 466 4Bobby Joe Conrad 1967 32 crd 14 47 637 2 32 449 4Fred Biletnikoff 1976 33 rai 13 43 551 7 33 446 5Ricky Proehl 2004 36 car 16 34 497 0 25 441 4Curtis Conway 2003 32 nyj 16 46 640 2 38 403 3Steve Largent 1988 34 sea 15 39 645 2 28 403 3
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
So just one guy (Carter) in the last 20 years has had more than 46 catches in year N+1. And Moulds is changing teams which generally doesn't help matters. Not very promising, and not someone I'd want to roster on a fantasy team if there were any guys with upside around at all.
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I'm not sure where you got those numbers from, but the general idea is correct. Only one receiver -- Frank Lewis -- was a viable fantasy option. Anthony Carter ranked 44th among WRs, and Nat Moore ranked 38th, but that seems to be the upper limits for someone like Moulds. Seems like little harm can be done by crossing him off your list, unless he goes to New England. (In which case you wouldn't want to draft him until your fantasy playoffs start.)
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stevegamer
Footballguy
Yup. However, that list looks a little odd with real old school guys on it like Crazy Legs Hirsch. I think he might have been pretty viable in FF 50 years ago putting up 32-477-6. That might have been WR 8 or something.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
From your list. In the last 20 years (1986 and later), Carter had 60 catches in year N+1, and no one else had more than Monk's 46. Lewis was 26 years ago. Anyway, the details aren't important. The fact that Moulds has met with Father Time is really the point and we agree.
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Oh. I skipped over the last 20 years part. Thanks for clearing that up.
I completely disagree with this. He disagreed with Mularkey's play calling, as any sane person would have done...and he was far from a locker room cancer. When veteran players speak up for what's right in the best interests of the team, it's usually called leadership.that being said, I was upset to see the Bills trade Moulds last year, but I think the team has moved on and he wouldn't really be a good fit there now. I'm not sure how much he has left either, but I could see him going to a place like Philly or New England and making a decent contribution this year.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I usually find myself in agreement with you Rud but not this time. First Moulds threw a hissy fit when Evans was having a big game and he wasn't getting the ball. He was also upset that they even gave Losman the starting job to begin with because he didn't want to be on a team with a developing QB.I can't necessarily blame him for not wanting to play on a team with a first year QB because it's obvious that his days as a significant contributor in the NFL are pretty much over and I think he saw the writing on the wall. He was pretty professional about the whole thing in that he didn't really drag anything into the media until it was clear that his days in Buffalo were numbered. But there were enough rumors about problems that he caused in the lockerroom and the divisiveness that he caused that I tend to believe them. I'm still a fan of Emo and glad that we got to enjoy him playing for the Bills, but it was time for him to go and I most certainly would not welcome him back. IMO, he can no longer get separation, can't stretch the field and doesn't get the YAC. He's just had too many leg injuries and doesn't have the speed anymore to be a legitimate #1 of #2 WR in the NFL anymore. If he's willing to be a #3 like a Ricky Proehl I think that there's still a spot for him in the league. But he's not an NFL starter anymore IMO.
Thorpe
Footballguy
It is not up to the veteran players to decide whether to rebuild or go for it in a particular year. After the progress Losman made throughout last year, you have to wonder how much better he would have been had he started 16 games two years ago.
