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Thanks to top 200 my season is shot (1 Viewer)

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Just jumped in to see what all the fuss is about, and now I want that couple minutes of my life back.With or without Buckhalter, that team is hardly stacked. It's actually pretty weak for a 10 team league. Rudi, CBuck, Minor, and Dayne are nothing close to a stacked backfield no matter WHO is starting at the other positions. There are ways to fix it and lots of people willing to help you out, but complaining about it in this way really gets you nowhere.

 
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Obviously no one is getting the point.I've got LOTS OF STUFF going on in my life right now and I can't focus on stats and news like I usually do. Moving, school, 2 jobs, travel barely making it to the draft on time I trusted top 200 could at least get me through the draft with some good value picks not screw up my season.So I guess FBG can do no wrong. What a waste of time to even complain.
WHO DID YOU PICK THAT RUINED YOUR SEASON?? RICKY WILLIAMS??
 
I have lots of stuff going on right now and do not have time to read EVERY SINGLE NFL news blurb and check the boards every day. That is why I plunked down the money for FBG. Well we had our draft last night and thanks to FBG I might as well have thrown away my franchise fee. How hard is it to make adjustments like TAKING INJURED PLAYERS OFF THE TOP 200? Maybe 30 secs? FBG can't take 30 secs to update the ^%#^%$$ TOP 200? Lots of people use it for drafts since it easy to print and has all the value picks and you don't have to read every single article about every single game to be prepared for the draft. I don't have time to read Joe's spam three times a day either.Maybe FBG does not have time to update the list every week but like I said there is NO EXCUSE to have players still on that list as of today who were injured more than a week ago!NO EXCUSEThanks a lot for ruining my season. I don't want a refund unless FBG will also refund my franchise fee.I also notice other subscribers having issues with the cheatsheets too so I guess its time to reevaluate priorities around here?
Nobody wants to be accountable for their actions these days. Everybody wants stuff handed to them. Why don't you just go ahead and slap FBG with a lawsuit.J Maddi, you should be beaten within an inch of your f$%king life; you miserable, whiny piece of crap.AAAhhhhhhhh.....feeling much better now.
 
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Finally, I can say that I'm a very important person here (STC #1! STC #1!)My question is this: you had the tenth pick out of ten teams, and using the Top 200 performance list, you picked Rudi, who is listed no higher than RB12 on any of those lists. But the lists would have told you to pick a guy like Barlow or Taylor.

This clearly shows that you eschewed the list and made your own judgement as far as who to draft.

Don't blame the tool for failing you when you yourself were making independent decisions based on its content.

 
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Thanks for manning up on the refund offer.

I am sending you an email too about something else.

Here are the players I drafted in order: Rudi Johnson, Harrison, Gonzalez, Chambers, Buckhalter, Minor, Brady, Garcia, Northcutt, Dayne, Carr, Glenn, Witten, Vinatieri, Richie Anderson, Rams, Jay Feely, Corey Bradford.

As you can see I thought I was fine at RB. Now I probably have to trade off Harrison to get another RB whose not on IR or lost their job. If the info had been correct I would have had a stacked team instead of an inbox full of trade offers for Harrison.

That's why having one bad pick due to bad information can ruin a draft.
Heck, I'll take a stab at working out a team improvement strategy. I will assume a starting lineup of QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, K, D. If you start 2 QBs, have a flex position, or something like that, let me know.Let's lay out your roster to make it easier to read:

T Brady

J Garcia

D Carr

J Feely

R Johnson

C Buckhalter

T Minor

R Dayne

R Anderson

M Harrison

C Chambers

D Northcutt

T Glenn

C Bradford

T Gonzales

J Witten

A Viniateri

St Louis Defense

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Feely, Bradford, and Buckhalter are the obvious deadwood here. There are guys undrafted who will help you more than these three. And you will have to be a waiver-wire fiend in the first few weeks -- you need to find value on the wire, possibly more than anyone else. If you can find the time to at minimum to research 20 minutes a day, you can keep abreast enough on possible breakouts to help yourself to some free agent flyers. Don't let an NFL week go by without perusing the box scores for bubbling-under talent. Come to this forum to get further info from local fans of whatever team.

I feel like your team's base is pretty stout -- Rudi, Harrison, and Gonzales can help you a lot. The door is not closed for either Minor or Dayne to perform as a minimal RB2 ... but you don't want to count on them. You really want to target RB in any WW transactions or trades.

I'm not sure any other teams in a 10-team league are going to have so obvious a weakness that they are going to deal you a starting RB right now. However, see who goes down at QB during the first few weeks -- then be ready to deal the hotter of Brady, Garcia, or Carr -- plus an unusually hot WR -- for a decent RB2. Better still if you can target a talented RB2 who is having a rough start. Player values are out-of-whack for the first few weeks of any season, so some owners will overreact to either slow starts or hot starts. Be ready to capitalize.

Unlike others, I consider Gonzales one of your untouchable players. You need the advantage he gives you over other TEs. Don't trade him unless a top-5 RB is coming over to you (unlikely).

 
I don't understand if Buckhalter was not the starter why was he so high up there on the top 200?
While I too don't have time to read every word in Joe's daily updates (or "spam" as you call them), do yourself a favor and read the topics covered in the e-mail. They are at the top right under the "stuff new on the web" section.Scan the topics and you can learn quite a bit. Reading just the "our view" section of each topic and you'd have known since last year that Buckhalter was not the "starter," but was part of an RBBC.Minimal investment on your time would have prevented this mistake.Quit making the excuse that's it's been the past couple weeks. Buckhalter has always shared the backfield. You are just a lazy FF player and are embarassed you made a mistake. Grow up. :censored:
 
Grasshopper.....you have many replies.....your flamebait very strong.

 
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Finally, I can say that I'm a very important person here (STC #1! STC #1!)My question is this: you had the tenth pick out of ten teams, and using the Top 200 performance list, you picked Rudi, who is listed no higher than RB12 on any of those lists. But the lists would have told you to pick a guy like Barlow or Taylor.

This clearly shows that you eschewed the list and made your own judgement as far as who to draft.

Don't blame the tool for failing you when you yourself were making independent decisions based on its content.
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I wanted to make a point about Buckhalter's ranking pre-injury. I don't know about FBG's Top 200, but as of two weeks ago, one of FBG's well-esteemed competitors had Buck as their #33 RB overall. They were apparently expecting something of a cross between late-90s Alstott and Zack Crockett -- not huge yardage, but decent TD numbers.Now, for someone who waited until pick #50 to go RB2, Buckhalter might have just about the best left on a top-200 list.

 
Thanks for manning up on the refund offer. I am sending you an email too about something else.Here are the players I drafted in order: Rudi Johnson, Harrison, Gonzalez, Chambers, Buckhalter, Minor, Brady, Garcia, Northcutt, Dayne, Carr, Glenn, Witten, Vinatieri, Richie Anderson, Rams, Jay Feely, Corey Bradford.As you can see I thought I was fine at RB. Now I probably have to trade off Harrison to get another RB whose not on IR or lost their job. If the info had been correct I would have had a stacked team instead of an inbox full of trade offers for Harrison.That's why having one bad pick due to bad information can ruin a draft.
So Bucky was your 50th overall pick, and by him getting injured your season is ruined?Does that mean that anyone who sustains an injury 1 through 49 will also have their season ruined? I mean, even if you just limit that train of though to RBs, peeps are going to get injured. It's part of the game. Hell, tons of people this year drafted BEFORE Boston / Williams / Boldin / Bucky etc. They aren't writting off their seasons!Don't you just love a challenge? A big name RB will go down, and a Dom Rhodes or a Naj Davenport will end up posting huge numbers. Just be ready to jump on them.If you were in my league and whinned like that, 11 other GMs would call you a p u s s y.
 
Guys,A couple of things on this post.1) This is more than likely a fishing trip but if it is a ticked of client the best solution has already been offered in a money back guarntee. I aslo applaud the site owners for leaving the post of a dissatisfied customer for all to see.Assuming the story is true as we should.2) More than likely the poster heard this was the best site on the Net and rushed to sign up before the draft .3) I have a lower image of alot of the so called "sharks" after bashing someone instead of pointing him to the Assistant and trying to help him correct his situation. The bashing is only a negative reflection on the message board when a new subscriber comes to take a look.4) If any so called "Shark" thinks this site is a secret from the league mates then they are kidding them selves. You do a base search in yahoo of "Fantasy football tools" and guess which site is first on the list.5) The continual bashing of people using certain sites is another common theme here give it a break and support the hobby. All the bashing done on these boards just runs people off. It's amazing how immature the majority of people can be.6) I subscribed to Footballguys last year along with four other of my team mates and wasn't really impressed and have passed on it this year. The tools are nice but need alot of work and the information is just insights on things I've already decided on. Of the four of us one will be renewing the subscription because he liked the matchups that were done since he plays QBBC. I would look at joining again if a major revamp was done toward dynasty and auction.
Couldn't agree more. I'm surprised no one has resorted to the old "4 digit vs 5 digit member number" dis yet............. :hot: SIDENOTE: How in the world do you add the (User @ date, time) part to a quote???I've been fighting this since they put in the new BBS and it driving me crazy :wall:
 
I have a suggestion that could save your whole season. Don't send the email to Joe for the refund on the site fee. Instead, find a way to put aside a few minutes of your oh so hectic life, take a look at the subscriber competition and figure out a way to win. This would more than cover your $20 and your franchise fee with you league. Of course, you'll have to figure out a way to beat me ;) and a bunch of sharks on this board, but wouldn't it be satisfying to get all that money back.

 
Moving, school, 2 jobs, travel barely making it to the draft on time I trusted top 200 could at least get me through the draft with some good value picks not screw up my season.
Maybe you should take a break this year, then. You sound pretty busy.
 
OK with the 10th & 11th picks lets assume everybody ahead of you picked a RB except one person picked Moss (since you didn't get Moss). That would've left 9 Fred Taylor10 Kevan Barlow11 Travis Henry12 Domanick Davis13 Corey Dillonas RBs you couldve chose from. Instead you went with Rudi Johnson (my 14 ranked RB). Please

 
I trusted top 200 could at least get me through the draft with some good value picks not screw up my season.
I'm sorry to hear you aren't happy with the service JMaddi.I know for a fact that Joe B. will gladly refund your subscription fee if you aren't happy with the service.That said, instead of vaguely exclaiming we 'ruined' your draft with the top-200 list, explain in detail 'HOW' we ruined the draft.Now if you are talking about one injured player (Buckhalter) being on the injured list, then your season should be far from over. Many of us have early drafts and we have to deal with injuries and the like that hardly destroy are fantasy chances that season and even a poor draft doesn't mean the season is wasted. Do some research now, read some of the excellent articles on the site and try to turn your negative into a positive.post your roster and we'll give you some advice on how to improve your lot for this season.
 
If you have all that stuff going on in your life maybe you should not play fantasy football.................ultimately you are responsible for your own draft FBG is just a resource :wall:

 
Here are the players I drafted in order: Rudi Johnson, Harrison, Gonzalez, Chambers, Buckhalter, Minor, Brady, Garcia, Northcutt, Dayne, Carr, Glenn, Witten, Vinatieri, Richie Anderson, Rams, Jay Feely, Corey Bradford.As you can see I thought I was fine at RB. Now I probably have to trade off Harrison to get another RB whose not on IR or lost their job. If the info had been correct I would have had a stacked team instead of an inbox full of trade offers for Harrison.That's why having one bad pick due to bad information can ruin a draft.
Ohhh boy,First off drafting 10th in a 10 team draft should have warranted you a little better than drafting Rudi and Harrison at 10 and 11 since they are ranked 12 and 13. Your first mistake was not going RB, RB. Secondly, you then proceeded to draft TG (not bad) and Chambers before getting your RB2? To me that is where you blew your draft. You had 4 picks to get your 2 RBs and you elected to go with 1RB, 2 WRs and a TE. I am also finding it hard to believe no players fell to you and by looking at the top 200 list you picked players higher than where they were slotted anyway. You can't blame FBG for your draft. You made way too many mistakes aside from drafting Buck.
 
I guess I am in the minority here, but I think he has a point. I think that the cheatsheets should be updated for injury as soon as possible, before the weekly updates. The guy bought the product and is not happy. That's cool. I think Joe and the gang will be gracious. But they should also consider keeping their information super current, especially within a few weeks of the start of the season.I think this website is the greatest thing going, and Joe and David put out a heck of a product. This is, for all intents and purposes the only FF website I use. But I don't think a guy deserves to be crucified for being upset that the cheatsheets were not up to date a couple of weeks before the season starts.He does, however, deserve to be crucified for drafting a seemingly healthy Buckhalter as his RB2.

 
My opinion.He can take that team to the championship.There WILL be injuries at RB. Count on it. Last year I had Barlow, T.J Duckett and Domanick Davis stashed on my team in a 12 team league. I also had Q and Mike Anderson for a time, as well as Hollings. In a 10 team, the backups are available. Drop your deadwood extra kickers. TE's and defense and load up on RB's. Minimize your marginal players and loadup on RB's, you can win with your team, NO DOUBT! Pickup Davenport, Hollings, Morris, Atrain, OSmith, Moe Williams, Alstott, Steven Jackson, Kevin Jones. All or most of these guy will be undrafted in a 10 team league.Things change quickly in FF.Good Luck.I recommend you keep private matters private in the future.GO PATS! :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

 
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T BradyJ GarciaD CarrJ FeelyR JohnsonC BuckhalterT MinorR DayneR AndersonM HarrisonC ChambersD NorthcuttT GlennC BradfordT GonzalesJ WittenA ViniateriSt Louis DefenseDrafting mistakes made...Taking C. Buckhalter where you did (injured or not IMO)Grabbing suspect receiver talent for your 3rd thru 5th optionsTaking four quarterbacks (why bother)Strength of your teamTop tight endGood duo at receiver in Harrison/ChambersGood duo at quarterback in Brady/GarciaKeys going forward..Know who is available in your league on the waiver wire and be ready to put in for them after week one while cutting- Feeley, Buckhalter for sure (and maybe Bradford)- Try dangling players like Gonzalez to see what you can get for him. - Rudi Johnson/Minor should hold you in the game for at least the first couple of weeks while you look for new blood.--- Never give up on the season. Work the waiver wire, offer trades and try to improve. Imagine your satisfaction when you turn this less than ideal fantasy draft into a championship team. Stay with us throughout the season and we'll do our best to get you there.

 
Post your roster and we'll give you some advice on how to improve your lot for this season.
See above -- J Maddi gave his roster.
Yeah, sorry. I really meant when you first post something negative like this pointing fingers and accusing us of destroying your draft. At least give us the facts and where it went wrong.
 
J Maddi, you need a lot more thicker skin to successfully play FF. With you post, you essentially opened yourself up for ridicule.If you would have taken an injured Buckhalter in my league (especially in the 5th!), we would have laughed at you until the sun came up.......I agree with fellow posters that said you screwed up your draft by not taking 2 RBs within your 1st 4 picks. Chambers with the 31st pick is somewhat of a reach, IMO.I would hit the WW right away and get rid of your dead wood. And don't trade Harrison or Gonzo unless you get a really good deal. Trading Harrison or Gonzo for a mediocre RB (no one will trade you a really good RB straight up for these guys) will seal the coffin for you.And you will be back blaming FBG for making a bonehead trade......... :violin:

 
I can't believe that you all are falling for this. If he was blindly following the FBG's rankings, as he said, then why did he take Rudi 10th, Harrison 11th, and Chambers 31st! Clearly a fishing trip.

 
I can't believe that you all are falling for this. If he was blindly following the FBG's rankings, as he said, then why did he take Rudi 10th, Harrison 11th, and Chambers 31st! Clearly a fishing trip.
true story :goodposting:
 
And thus the bad part of fantasy football. You get non-football fans like this dork that get involved, just because its the "in thing". :wall: :thumbdown:

 
I'm tired of trying to keep up on all this football stuff on my own too. Can I just get Joe or David or one of the staff members to do my draft for me?

 
And thus the bad part of fantasy football. You get non-football fans like this dork that get involved, just because its the "in thing". :wall: :thumbdown:
Personally I think that's the best part of Fantasy Football. But then again I'm a true football fan. I like educating people on the sport and watching them grow to understand and enjoy it. I have seen people in leagues I play in go from not knowing a thing about football to being experts. In fact I've seen ladies in leagues that end up knowing more about the actual sport than there so called expert husbands who played one year in Junior High.The bad part about fantasy football are people that knock others for not knowing as much as they do. This makes everyone in the sport and the hobby off FF come off as jerks.
 
To answer your question there's 10 teams and I had to pick last since I held up the draft for 30 minutes.I don't understand if Buckhalter was not the starter why was he so high up there on the top 200?For all the comments posted I am not a FF newbie. This is my thrid year and like I said things are just really hectic the past 2 weeks.
Things must be so hectic for you. It's amazing how much time you're able to spend in this thread today.
 
I can't believe that you all are falling for this. If he was blindly following the FBG's rankings, as he said, then why did he take Rudi 10th, Harrison 11th, and Chambers 31st! Clearly a fishing trip.
Good point.
 
I'm a true football fan. I like educating people on the sport and watching them grow to understand and enjoy it.
The whiny kid doesn't want to learn, he wants someone to do it for him. I think this is a big problem with kids today. :no:
 
I guess I am in the minority here, but I think he has a point. I think that the cheatsheets should be updated for injury as soon as possible, before the weekly updates. The guy bought the product and is not happy. That's cool. I think Joe and the gang will be gracious. But they should also consider keeping their information super current, especially within a few weeks of the start of the season.I think this website is the greatest thing going, and Joe and David put out a heck of a product. This is, for all intents and purposes the only FF website I use. But I don't think a guy deserves to be crucified for being upset that the cheatsheets were not up to date a couple of weeks before the season starts.He does, however, deserve to be crucified for drafting a seemingly healthy Buckhalter as his RB2.
Kutta,Totally agree with you about the Crucifixion over wanting current information part. However, I disagree that the Cheatsheats weren't updated. Clayton Gray's 110 Cheatsheets were updated to include Buckhalter, readily available, and would have served him far better than a generic top 200 that wasn't formated to his league.The tools needed were right there on the front page of the site.
 
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OK, let me get this straight. You lose ONE player (who was taken with the 50th pick) and you think your season is OVER!?!?I'd like to think I was good enough to SKIP my 5th round pick and still win. Sure it would be harder, but certainly not IMPOSSIBLE!Be a shark. Hit the waiver wire and see what you can do. Don't trade Harrison.Geez, I lost my second round pick a few years ago (Fragile Freddy's torn groin) and came within a few points of making the playoffs. I certainly didn't GIVE UP!You've only lost a fifth round pick. Treat it like Buck went down in Game 1 and not in the preseason. Sigh.

 
Whiny post, and I blame him more than anyone else, but I was really surprised today to open up the experts rankings and see Boldin up there, with a date of 8/9 on the page. You guys have been great this preseason about putting out projections on time, and he could have used those instead, but the 9th was a really long time ago - you'd almost be better off removing stuff that old.I'm a happy customer, but can see how this would frustrate people.On the other hand, he wasted a 5th round pick - it's not the end of the world.

 
God, you're a moron. Fine at RB with an over-rated #1 RB (who wouldn't have been the best available), a back-up RB, and a crappy starter who'll likely lose his job? Did you not even notice that Westbrook was ranked higher and played for the same team? If so, why would you draft the back-up of a player you don't have, even if you didn't know he was hurt? Seriously, you need some common sense and blindly choosing regardless of what guide you use is going to give you a crappy team.

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Here are the players I drafted in order: Rudi Johnson, Harrison, Gonzalez, Chambers, Buckhalter, Minor, Brady, Garcia, Northcutt, Dayne, Carr, Glenn, Witten, Vinatieri, Richie Anderson, Rams, Jay Feely, Corey Bradford.



As you can see I thought I was fine at RB.

 

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