The 100 Greatest movies of the 1990s #49. Braveheart (21 Viewers)

[UncleZen]

ID4 is just like another movie that I expect will show up later. The plot is over the top silly but they are both just fun to watch.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

ID4 is just like another movie that I expect will show up later. The plot is over the top silly but they are both just fun to watch.

That one also have Will Smith?

 

[KarmaPolice]

If you had said that spelling the name of the movie as “Se7en” instead of “Seven” caused you to move the ranking down 15-20 slots out of annoyance, that would resonate more with me.

Irritates the stuffing out of me. Not okay.

Oh rel4x.

I think Sunny Day did a better “Seven”

One of my favorite heavy songs ever.

Seven

Sunny Day Real Estate · Diary (2009 Edition) · Song · 1994

open.spotify.com

eta* Don’t you mean “Oh r3lax”?

Dammit, whiffed on the 3.

R3l4x!

And yes, great song.

 

[General Malaise]

Independence Day was one I watched on opening day and loved, a throwback to blockbusters and feel good about USA that we hadn't had for a while.

Then I watched Siskel and Ebert take a giant steaming dump all over it! One of the very few times I thought they were wrong.

Watching the movie a 2nd time with my older kids during a sleepover at our house in like 2014 or so....it still held up. They loved it too.

It's dumb but it worked as a blockbuster.

 

[General Malaise]

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Independence Day was one I watched on opening day and loved, a throwback to blockbusters and feel good about USA that we hadn't had for a while.

Then I watched Siskel and Ebert take a giant steaming dump all over it! One of the very few times I thought they were wrong.

Watching the movie a 2nd time with my older kids during a sleepover at our house in like 2014 or so....it still held up. They loved it too.

It's dumb but it worked as a blockbuster.

One of only a few times? Really? They were wrong often. Shockingly often.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I'm a Pixar fan.

Very few missteps in their catalog. The 10 year old and I watched Brave and The Incredibles a couple weeks ago. I think Onward is the only one we haven't gotten to.

I think I became a jaded adult around the Cars timeframe. That's when Joe Ranft died and I don't think the stories have ever been the same.

Not that they're bad, just not as good.

I mostly agree. I would say it a little differently - I think the top ones are still as good as the old days, but they aren't as consistently at that level. I think the big issue was they were reaching for the sequels (probably based on the quality of the Toy Story sequels), and those were usually the sub-par ones. I will go to bat for Soul, Inside Out, Brave, and even Coco but you do have to wade through the others if you are trying them all. Not sure if there are any I would consider bad, but The Good Dinosaur, Elemental, and Lightyear are ones I didn't like much.

IMO the other studios were able to catch up to Pixar in terms of quality too (at least for my weird taste). Kung Fu Panda, Megamind, Big Hero 6, Lego Movie, How to Train Your Dragon, Moana, Encanto, Rango, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, and others I am surely forgetting were ones most of us in the house gravitated to over most of the post-2010 Pixar movies.

 

[BlackCrowes]

59. Independence Day (1996)

Directed by: Roland Emmerich

Starring: Will Smith, Jeff Goldblum, Bill Pullman, Mary McDonnell, Vivica A. Fox, Randy Quaid, Judd Hirsch

Synopsis: Humanity must fight back when a group of locust like aliens attack the Earth.


We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight!…today we celebrate our Independence Day!!!- Bill Pullman as President Thomas Whitmore

OK I know, you have to suspend your logic at times for this movie to make sense- particularly the notion that TV repair guy Jeff Goldbum is so damn good with a laptop that he can break into the alien computer system and give it a virus, thus saving the Earth. Or that Will Smith is such a badass pilot that he can study an alien spaceship for all of five minutes and figure out how to operate it. There’s a whole lot more…

But if you can put all of that aside what we have here is an outstanding Hollywood epic. Emmerich was trying to recreate the excitement of blockbuster old movies like King Kong and he does a very good job, with an all star cast. Goldblum is, as always, terrific.

Still the only movie I walked out on. Abysmally awful.

 

[BlackCrowes]

Barb Wire top 20?

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I don't understand why you guys keep labeling threads as the greastest when they are favs or most watched. Such clickbait titling.

You'll know it's the greatest when the title is labeled with ***Official***.

damn, just got pwed by Andy

 

[Dan Lambskin]

59. Independence Day (1996)

Directed by: Roland Emmerich

Starring: Will Smith, Jeff Goldblum, Bill Pullman, Mary McDonnell, Vivica A. Fox, Randy Quaid, Judd Hirsch

Synopsis: Humanity must fight back when a group of locust like aliens attack the Earth.


We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight!…today we celebrate our Independence Day!!!- Bill Pullman as President Thomas Whitmore

OK I know, you have to suspend your logic at times for this movie to make sense- particularly the notion that TV repair guy Jeff Goldbum is so damn good with a laptop that he can break into the alien computer system and give it a virus, thus saving the Earth. Or that Will Smith is such a badass pilot that he can study an alien spaceship for all of five minutes and figure out how to operate it. There’s a whole lot more…

But if you can put all of that aside what we have here is an outstanding Hollywood epic. Emmerich was trying to recreate the excitement of blockbuster old movies like King Kong and he does a very good job, with an all star cast. Goldblum is, as always, terrific.

Still the only movie I walked out on. Abysmally awful.

That movie sucks

 

[titusbramble]

ID4 such fun to watch. Shame the sequel is the textbook example of the Law of Movie Sequels

 

[AAABatteries]

I'm a Pixar fan.

While I kind of get GM’s comment about animated movies I think it comes down for many of us to when we had kids. Had my first in ‘99 so their childhoods coincided with Pixar’s epic run. I hope to one day get to revisit all the Pixar films with my grandkids.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

ID4 such fun to watch. Shame the sequel is the textbook example of the Law of Movie Sequels

There was a sequel?

 

[TripItUp]

I approve of the Independence Day Ranking

Great entertainment value.

Corny as hell? Yes. Fun and entertaining? Yes.

 

[TripItUp]

The animation/kid movies is hard for me to wrap my head around for the 90s.

I don't know any adults that actually go to a theatre to watch animated movies. That alone should disqualify the entire genre.

Tim's fascination with animated films and his consistent overranking of them is a bit bizarre but to be expected by now.

 

[KarmaPolice]

The animation/kid movies is hard for me to wrap my head around for the 90s.

I don't know any adults that actually go to a theatre to watch animated movies. That alone should disqualify the entire genre.

Tim's fascination with animated films and his consistent overranking of them is a bit bizarre but to be expected by now.

You paint too broad of a brush with the "animated" movies tag, IMO. 100% I am not going to see a Disney movie by myself in the theater. I would go to see others like Studio Ghibli movies. I also would and have pop in any of the movies I mentioned up thread to Andy on my own at home. I am not sure why watching Lego Movie or Rango is that much different than watching other kids movies that I have seen many of you list in rankings. Good movies are good movies.

 

[El Floppo]

The animation/kid movies is hard for me to wrap my head around for the 90s.

I don't know any adults that actually go to a theatre to watch animated movies. That alone should disqualify the entire genre.

Tim's fascination with animated films and his consistent overranking of them is a bit bizarre but to be expected by now.

Hi. My name is Floppo. I'm an adult who sees animated films in the theaters regardless of having a kid or not. Nice to meet you.

Requalified.

 

[El Floppo]

I'm a Pixar fan.

While I kind of get GM’s comment about animated movies I think it comes down for many of us to when we had kids. Had my first in ‘99 so their childhoods coincided with Pixar’s epic run. I hope to one day get to revisit all the Pixar films with my grandkids.

I watched Pixar and Studio Ghibli pre-kids. And any other animated movies that looked interesting to me. Most standard kids fare- aninated or otherwise- never looked interesting to me. Based on the movie theaters here in New York, the wife and I weren't the only adults to do that.

Funny - I wonder if the people questioning adults seeing animated films differentiate other live action films obviously directed towards kids... Super heros, etc.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Tom Hanks was great in "that thing" but to me, Steve Zahn stole the show. He was fricken hilarious!

Amen to that. I love That Thing You Do, and everyone is great in it, but Zahn is just non-stop hilarity. "And I am going to win that pig!"

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

The animation/kid movies is hard for me to wrap my head around for the 90s.

I don't know any adults that actually go to a theatre to watch animated movies. That alone should disqualify the entire genre.

Tim's fascination with animated films and his consistent overranking of them is a bit bizarre but to be expected by now.

Hi. My name is Floppo. I'm an adult who sees animated films in the theaters regardless of having a kid or not. Nice to meet you.

Requalified.

Right with you. I loved animation as a kid. Those Warner Bros classics are even better as an adult. I can't think why I wouldn't watch them and any other decent animated work. Great stories are still great, and animation isn't just for kids.

It's kind of sad that some of you seem to care so much about what others think of you. Sounds like growing up squashed all the fun out of you.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Sounds like Trip is not comfortable with embracing his inner kid.

Curious about him or others to say what their cut off is that think that way. Just animation or is it kids movies? Would you sit and watch The Sandlot yourself, for example?

 

[timschochet]

58. True Lies (1994)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jamie Lee Curtis, Tom Arnold, Bill Paxton

Synopsis: A secret counterterrorism spy has trouble balancing his normal domestic life.

We’ll see this is the problem with terrorists; they’re really inconsiderate when it comes to peoples’ schedules. - Arnold Schwarzenegger as Harry Tasker.

The most underrated of the James Cameron blockbusters. Like ID4, this is an extremely entertaining action film in which you have to set aside your sense of logic to enjoy. But it’s a whole lot of fun. Revived Jamie Lee Curtis’ career, among other things.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Helen Tasker: Have you ever killed anyone?
Harry: Yeah, but they were all bad.

It bogs down terribly in the middle. But the bookends are pretty great.

And Tia Carrere...

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I don't know any adults that actually go to a theatre to watch animated movies.

Seems like a small sample size.

58. True Lies (1994)

What makes this movie any different than a cartoon? The plot is pretty cartoonish.

 

[UncleZen]

ID4 is just like another movie that I expect will show up later. The plot is over the top silly but they are both just fun to watch.

That one also have Will Smith?

I know the one you are thinking and that one fits too, but not the one I was thinking.

 

[UncleZen]

I don't understand why you guys keep labeling threads as the greastest when they are favs or most watched. Such clickbait titling.

You'll know it's the greatest when the title is labeled with ***Official***.

damn, just got pwed by Andy

I didn't think anyone used "pwned" anymore. Who knew!

 

[TripItUp]

Sounds like Trip is not comfortable with embracing his inner kid.

Curious about him or others to say what their cut off is that think that way. Just animation or is it kids movies? Would you sit and watch The Sandlot yourself, for example?

Meh, I just don't find them nearly as entertaining. Sure they are mildly entertaining, but not anything close to top 100 entertaining.

Nice to see all the animated fans coming out of the closet here as I compile my list of FFA weirdos...haha, jk.(or am I?)

 

[TripItUp]

58. True Lies (1994)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jamie Lee Curtis, Tom Arnold, Bill Paxton

This move was great on multiple levels.

I would have ranked similarly and I'm guessing Timmy and I are higher than the consensus.

 

[B Maverick]

59. Independence Day (1996)

Directed by: Roland Emmerich

Starring: Will Smith, Jeff Goldblum, Bill Pullman, Mary McDonnell, Vivica A. Fox, Randy Quaid, Judd Hirsch

Synopsis: Humanity must fight back when a group of locust like aliens attack the Earth.


We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight!…today we celebrate our Independence Day!!!- Bill Pullman as President Thomas Whitmore

OK I know, you have to suspend your logic at times for this movie to make sense- particularly the notion that TV repair guy Jeff Goldbum is so damn good with a laptop that he can break into the alien computer system and give it a virus, thus saving the Earth. Or that Will Smith is such a badass pilot that he can study an alien spaceship for all of five minutes and figure out how to operate it. There’s a whole lot more…

But if you can put all of that aside what we have here is an outstanding Hollywood epic. Emmerich was trying to recreate the excitement of blockbuster old movies like King Kong and he does a very good job, with an all star cast. Goldblum is, as always, terrific.

I do enjoy this movie and check it out when its on. Not one I go looking to watch but it is entertaining.

I have to say this speech, to me, is one of the best movie President speeches along with Michael Douglas' in The American President.

 

[AAABatteries]

Sounds like Trip is not comfortable with embracing his inner kid.

Curious about him or others to say what their cut off is that think that way. Just animation or is it kids movies? Would you sit and watch The Sandlot yourself, for example?

Meh, I just don't find them nearly as entertaining. Sure they are mildly entertaining, but not anything close to top 100 entertaining.

Nice to see all the animated fans coming out of the closet here as I compile my list of FFA weirdos...haha, jk.(or am I?)

Who hurt you?

Yes, you are the weirdo - not so much for not liking animated movies per se but moreso because of how you are acting in the thread.

 

[falguy]

Michael Douglas' in The American President

Yeah. Loved this speech (and the movie)

 

[KarmaPolice]

58. True Lies (1994)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jamie Lee Curtis, Tom Arnold, Bill Paxton

This move was great on multiple levels.

I would have ranked similarly and I'm guessing Timmy and I are higher than the consensus.

I don't think I would have it ranked. I agree with Andy that it bogs down a bit in the middle and I tend to get a tad bored. There are some great parts, like Bill Paxton, but IMO it is not consistent enough for a top 100. There are better movies of a similar feel.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

58. True Lies (1994)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jamie Lee Curtis, Tom Arnold, Bill Paxton

This move was great on multiple levels.

I would have ranked similarly and I'm guessing Timmy and I are higher than the consensus.

Great soundtrack too.

 

[TripItUp]

I don't think I would have it ranked. I agree with Andy that it bogs down a bit in the middle and I tend to get a tad bored. There are some great parts, like Bill Paxton but IMO it is not consistent enough for a top 100. There are better movies of a similar feel.

I thought it was very well cast and the dialogue in general was above average and witty given the genre. It pulled off the purposefully corny vibe IMHO.

 

[General Malaise]

Independence Day was one I watched on opening day and loved, a throwback to blockbusters and feel good about USA that we hadn't had for a while.

Then I watched Siskel and Ebert take a giant steaming dump all over it! One of the very few times I thought they were wrong.

Watching the movie a 2nd time with my older kids during a sleepover at our house in like 2014 or so....it still held up. They loved it too.

It's dumb but it worked as a blockbuster.

One of only a few times? Really? They were wrong often. Shockingly often.

Meh, agree to disagree.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Independence Day was one I watched on opening day and loved, a throwback to blockbusters and feel good about USA that we hadn't had for a while.

Then I watched Siskel and Ebert take a giant steaming dump all over it! One of the very few times I thought they were wrong.

Watching the movie a 2nd time with my older kids during a sleepover at our house in like 2014 or so....it still held up. They loved it too.

It's dumb but it worked as a blockbuster.

One of only a few times? Really? They were wrong often. Shockingly often.

Meh, agree to disagree.

Unless you’ve gone back through their views on 100s of movies recently, well, it’s likely you just haven’t seen how horrifically bad Roger Ebert was on a lot of great movies.

But in fairness, nobody bats 1.000

 

[KarmaPolice]

I don't think I would have it ranked. I agree with Andy that it bogs down a bit in the middle and I tend to get a tad bored. There are some great parts, like Bill Paxton but IMO it is not consistent enough for a top 100. There are better movies of a similar feel.

I thought it was very well cast and the dialogue in general was above average and witty given the genre. It pulled off the purposefully corny vibe IMHO.

I don't disagree with that, I just think it's too long and inconsistent.

I would have it ranked if I was just doing blockbusters or action movies. Since I am a weirdo that watches animated movies, dramas, and foreign movies I probably would only have 15-20 in the zone that True Lies operates in on my lists and offhand can think of about that many that I prefer in the 90s. I like it a lot, just not top 100 a lot.

 

[General Malaise]

The animation/kid movies is hard for me to wrap my head around for the 90s.

I don't know any adults that actually go to a theatre to watch animated movies. That alone should disqualify the entire genre.

Tim's fascination with animated films and his consistent overranking of them is a bit bizarre but to be expected by now.

Hi. My name is Floppo. I'm an adult who sees animated films in the theaters regardless of having a kid or not. Nice to meet you.

Requalified.

Right with you. I loved animation as a kid. Those Warner Bros classics are even better as an adult. I can't think why I wouldn't watch them and any other decent animated work. Great stories are still great, and animation isn't just for kids.

It's kind of sad that some of you seem to care so much about what others think of you. Sounds like growing up squashed all the fun out of you.

I don't know that my decision to not spend money on kids' movies without having kids of my own in the 90s is evidence that I don't like having fun or care what people think about me. It's not how a 20 something year old me chose to spend what little discretionary money I did have on things geared towards kids. I liked Legos as a kid too; I wasn't buying them in my 20s and I don't think it's because I had all the fun squashed out of me.

Now with 5 kids, I've seen many terrific kids' movies over the years - Finding Nemo, Cars, Sing and Sing II are some of my favorites. There's just a 10 year gap in my life where I wasn't watching them....reasons were mostly financial and time related vs being a joyless human who cares what others think about me.

 

[General Malaise]

Independence Day was one I watched on opening day and loved, a throwback to blockbusters and feel good about USA that we hadn't had for a while.

Then I watched Siskel and Ebert take a giant steaming dump all over it! One of the very few times I thought they were wrong.

Watching the movie a 2nd time with my older kids during a sleepover at our house in like 2014 or so....it still held up. They loved it too.

It's dumb but it worked as a blockbuster.

One of only a few times? Really? They were wrong often. Shockingly often.

Meh, agree to disagree.

Unless you’ve gone back through their views on 100s of movies recently, well, it’s likely you just haven’t seen how horrifically bad Roger Ebert was on a lot of great movies.

But in fairness, nobody bats 1.000

I had two of his books, I'm pretty aware of his works and reviews. I agreed with him more than I didn't on films.

 

[Jayrod]

I'm kind of ashamed that as a person who grew up in the 90's, I've never actually watched True Lies from start to finish. I've seen clips, caught parts of it on TV, but never actually sat down and watched the entire movie.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Independence Day was one I watched on opening day and loved, a throwback to blockbusters and feel good about USA that we hadn't had for a while.

Then I watched Siskel and Ebert take a giant steaming dump all over it! One of the very few times I thought they were wrong.

Watching the movie a 2nd time with my older kids during a sleepover at our house in like 2014 or so....it still held up. They loved it too.

It's dumb but it worked as a blockbuster.

One of only a few times? Really? They were wrong often. Shockingly often.

Meh, agree to disagree.

Unless you’ve gone back through their views on 100s of movies recently, well, it’s likely you just haven’t seen how horrifically bad Roger Ebert was on a lot of great movies.

But in fairness, nobody bats 1.000

I had two of his books, I'm pretty aware of his works and reviews. I agreed with him more than I didn't on films.

See, now you are moving the bar. You wrote “only a few times I thought they were wrong.”

And I wrote “only a few?”

Now you are saying you agreed with him more than you didn’t. Well duh. So did I. That’s not really controversial.

 

[AAABatteries]

Independence Day was a fun movie but not one I feel the need to revisit. There’s probably about 30-35 movies lower in Tim’s list I’d rewatch before it.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

As a side note, if you ever thought this place was weird you should check out the boards reviewing the 4K Blu-ray disc of True Lies. People HATE that disc and repeatedly, vociferously, and virtually burn James Cameron in effigy for releasing a disc that looks like that.

And then you should see what they write about the Aliens disc.

 

[Jayrod]

the boards reviewing the 4K Blu-ray disc of True Lies.

Wat?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

the boards reviewing the 4K Blu-ray disc of True Lies.

Wat?

There are other worlds out there...

True Lies

 

[General Malaise]

Independence Day was one I watched on opening day and loved, a throwback to blockbusters and feel good about USA that we hadn't had for a while.

Then I watched Siskel and Ebert take a giant steaming dump all over it! One of the very few times I thought they were wrong.

Watching the movie a 2nd time with my older kids during a sleepover at our house in like 2014 or so....it still held up. They loved it too.

It's dumb but it worked as a blockbuster.

One of only a few times? Really? They were wrong often. Shockingly often.

Meh, agree to disagree.

Unless you’ve gone back through their views on 100s of movies recently, well, it’s likely you just haven’t seen how horrifically bad Roger Ebert was on a lot of great movies.

But in fairness, nobody bats 1.000

I had two of his books, I'm pretty aware of his works and reviews. I agreed with him more than I didn't on films.

See, now you are moving the bar. You wrote “only a few times I thought they were wrong.”

And I wrote “only a few?”

Now you are saying you agreed with him more than you didn’t. Well duh. So did I. That’s not really controversial.

You said "They were wrong often". I'm not agreeing with that. I'm moving on, you can stay on this if you want, I've said what I want to say.

 

[Jayrod]

the boards reviewing the 4K Blu-ray disc of True Lies.

Wat?

There are other worlds out there...

My God, the internet....

What hath God wrought?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Independence Day was one I watched on opening day and loved, a throwback to blockbusters and feel good about USA that we hadn't had for a while.

Then I watched Siskel and Ebert take a giant steaming dump all over it! One of the very few times I thought they were wrong.

Watching the movie a 2nd time with my older kids during a sleepover at our house in like 2014 or so....it still held up. They loved it too.

It's dumb but it worked as a blockbuster.

One of only a few times? Really? They were wrong often. Shockingly often.

Meh, agree to disagree.

Unless you’ve gone back through their views on 100s of movies recently, well, it’s likely you just haven’t seen how horrifically bad Roger Ebert was on a lot of great movies.

But in fairness, nobody bats 1.000

I had two of his books, I'm pretty aware of his works and reviews. I agreed with him more than I didn't on films.

See, now you are moving the bar. You wrote “only a few times I thought they were wrong.”

And I wrote “only a few?”

Now you are saying you agreed with him more than you didn’t. Well duh. So did I. That’s not really controversial.

You said "They were wrong often". I'm not agreeing with that. I'm moving on, you can stay on this if you want, I've said what I want to say.

Cool. Enjoy your Friday.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

" Alright you alien ********! In the words of my generation: Up Yours! "

Perfect example of a dumb, bad movie that I love and have seen too many times.

I hate that whenever I hear someone say it ain't over til the fat lady sings, my brain instantly triggers me to say out loud forget the fat lady, you're obsessed with the fat lady. drive us out of here. I can't remember certain peoples birthdays but I can remember that stupid quote