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The 100 Greatest Songs of 1976 #1. Foreplay/Long Time (21 Viewers)
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Uruk-Hai
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Oh, Browne's not even in the same universe as Joel for me. I like several of Jackson's records. He just gets a little same-y to me after a few songs.
zamboni
Footballguy
Are we talking about his haircut or his output?
Leroy Hoard
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My favorite Jackson Browne song is from 1983, Lawyers in Love.
zamboni
Footballguy
Also a very educational song pulling out some obscure geography:
Last night I watched the news from Washington, the capital
Eephus
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Browne's line "...and the children solemnly wait for the ice cream vendor" from "The Pretender" has always bothered me much more than it should.
First of all, children, ice cream and solemnly don't belong in the same sentence. Browne had a three year old son at the time this record came out. Even if he was waiting for vegan ice cream to be invented, he'd probably have seen other kids waiting on their ice cream and I seriously doubt they did so solemnly. There are plenty of three syllable adverbs that he could have used if he wasn't such a pretentious killjoy.
And who uses the term ice cream vendor other than a songwriter who's used up every other couplet that rhymes with pretender? You wait for the ice cream man or the ice cream truck. Even if you're at a ball game where beer and peanut sellers are typically called vendors, I don't think guys selling ice cream get called vendors. If the Family Feud category was "Ice Cream _____", vendor would be a zero point answer. Steve Harvey (or Richard Dawson at the time) would be rolling his eyes at that one and the Browne family would go home as losers.
First of all, children, ice cream and solemnly don't belong in the same sentence. Browne had a three year old son at the time this record came out. Even if he was waiting for vegan ice cream to be invented, he'd probably have seen other kids waiting on their ice cream and I seriously doubt they did so solemnly. There are plenty of three syllable adverbs that he could have used if he wasn't such a pretentious killjoy.
And who uses the term ice cream vendor other than a songwriter who's used up every other couplet that rhymes with pretender? You wait for the ice cream man or the ice cream truck. Even if you're at a ball game where beer and peanut sellers are typically called vendors, I don't think guys selling ice cream get called vendors. If the Family Feud category was "Ice Cream _____", vendor would be a zero point answer. Steve Harvey (or Richard Dawson at the time) would be rolling his eyes at that one and the Browne family would go home as losers.
Uruk-Hai
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I will never look at ice cream vendors or Family Feud the same way again.
Uruk-Hai
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Eephus went the hell offI will never look at ice cream vendors or Family Feud the same way again.
timschochet
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70. Blondie “In The Flesh” (from Blondie)
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I always thought this song sounded like the 50s group The Fleetwoods. It has the same feel of “Come Softly To Me” or some other tune from that decade. I love Deborah in all these early videos. She is adorable.
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I always thought this song sounded like the 50s group The Fleetwoods. It has the same feel of “Come Softly To Me” or some other tune from that decade. I love Deborah in all these early videos. She is adorable.
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Show me "Cone"!
timschochet
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69. Aerosmith “Last Child” (from Rocks)
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Mid 70s Aerosmith was one of the greatest hard rock bands of all time, and this was one of their best songs. Classic boogie. .
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Mid 70s Aerosmith was one of the greatest hard rock bands of all time, and this was one of their best songs. Classic boogie. .
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68. Heatwave “Boogie Nights” (from Too Hot to Handle)
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Heatwave was a British band led by Rod Templeton, the geeky keyboard player in the video who wrote this and many other disco tunes of the era. But the two lead singers are from Ohio. Love the jazzy opening here. Solid disco tune.
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Heatwave was a British band led by Rod Templeton, the geeky keyboard player in the video who wrote this and many other disco tunes of the era. But the two lead singers are from Ohio. Love the jazzy opening here. Solid disco tune.
Uruk-Hai
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Good song. Hell, the whole LP is good.68. Heatwave “Boogie Nights” (from Too Hot to Handle)
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Heatwave was a British band led by Rod Templeton, the geeky keyboard player in the video who wrote this and many other disco tunes of the era. But the two lead singers are from Ohio. Love the jazzy opening here. Solid disco tune.
remember when I said upthread KC was not a good singer in concert when I saw him? These guys were on the same bill and they brought their "A" voices.
zamboni
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Temperton's songwriting accomplishments run way deeper than that.68. Heatwave “Boogie Nights” (from Too Hot to Handle)
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Heatwave was a British band led by Rod Templeton, the geeky keyboard player in the video who wrote this and many other disco tunes of the era. But the two lead singers are from Ohio. Love the jazzy opening here. Solid disco tune.
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Damn. Pretty impressive resume.Temperton's songwriting accomplishments run way deeper than that.68. Heatwave “Boogie Nights” (from Too Hot to Handle)
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Heatwave was a British band led by Rod Templeton, the geeky keyboard player in the video who wrote this and many other disco tunes of the era. But the two lead singers are from Ohio. Love the jazzy opening here. Solid disco tune.
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69. Aerosmith “Last Child” (from Rocks)
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Mid 70s Aerosmith was one of the greatest hard rock bands of all time, and this was one of their best songs. Classic boogie. .
These are among my very favorite songs of the year.68. Heatwave “Boogie Nights” (from Too Hot to Handle)
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Heatwave was a British band led by Rod Templeton, the geeky keyboard player in the video who wrote this and many other disco tunes of the era. But the two lead singers are from Ohio. Love the jazzy opening here. Solid disco tune.
Uruk-Hai
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Yeah, I'd have had both of these way higher. Though......I would have put "Boogie Nights" on a 1977 list, which is when it had it's biggest impact. I understand why Tim has it here before anyone (Tim) calls me out.69. Aerosmith “Last Child” (from Rocks)
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Mid 70s Aerosmith was one of the greatest hard rock bands of all time, and this was one of their best songs. Classic boogie. .
These are among my very favorite songs of the year.68. Heatwave “Boogie Nights” (from Too Hot to Handle)
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Heatwave was a British band led by Rod Templeton, the geeky keyboard player in the video who wrote this and many other disco tunes of the era. But the two lead singers are from Ohio. Love the jazzy opening here. Solid disco tune.
timschochet
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68. Ramones “I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend” (from Ramones)
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Another early punk rock classic. I get that the folks who were listening to this sort of music in the late 70s were probably NOT listening to disco, and the folks listening to Eagles and Boston and Aerosmith were probably not listening to either punk rock OR disco. But- looking back 49 years later I think we can safely encompass and appreciate all of it. And if you were one of those back in the day that could appreciate all of these genres, more power to you.
More on the Ramones- as much as I love their studio recordings, they are probably the most disappointing live band I’ve ever seen. I saw them in 1988 at a small venue for punk rock in Long Beach called Fenders- it’s no longer there, but I managed to see a whole lot of great bands there back in the day: Circle Jerks, Black Flag, the Dickies (who became lifelong favorites of mine, etc.) It was a standing room only ballroom, and you didn’t want to get too close to the mosh pit as there were some pretty angry and physical dudes in there. I was totally jazzed about seeing the Ramones. But they went through the motions- before every song Joey shouted “1234!”And then they played the song as loud and as fast as they could. Most of the tunes I could not make out. They did about a dozen songs and then they were done. Total letdown for me- although the rest of the crowd, drunk and rowdy, seemed to love it. Or else they didn’t care.
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Another early punk rock classic. I get that the folks who were listening to this sort of music in the late 70s were probably NOT listening to disco, and the folks listening to Eagles and Boston and Aerosmith were probably not listening to either punk rock OR disco. But- looking back 49 years later I think we can safely encompass and appreciate all of it. And if you were one of those back in the day that could appreciate all of these genres, more power to you.
More on the Ramones- as much as I love their studio recordings, they are probably the most disappointing live band I’ve ever seen. I saw them in 1988 at a small venue for punk rock in Long Beach called Fenders- it’s no longer there, but I managed to see a whole lot of great bands there back in the day: Circle Jerks, Black Flag, the Dickies (who became lifelong favorites of mine, etc.) It was a standing room only ballroom, and you didn’t want to get too close to the mosh pit as there were some pretty angry and physical dudes in there. I was totally jazzed about seeing the Ramones. But they went through the motions- before every song Joey shouted “1234!”And then they played the song as loud and as fast as they could. Most of the tunes I could not make out. They did about a dozen songs and then they were done. Total letdown for me- although the rest of the crowd, drunk and rowdy, seemed to love it. Or else they didn’t care.
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What exactly were you expecting? You just described exactly what it is that they do.
Leroy Hoard
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Maybe a floating pig hovering over the crowd.
timschochet
Footballguy
Well I wanted to, you know, be able to hear the melodies. Was that too much to ask?
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That's just not what punk shows DO. Do you expect to hear raging guitar riffs at Taylor Swift shows?
timschochet
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Yes they play songs loud and fast. But the other bands I mentioned I could tell what they were playing, I could follow along. Not with the Ramones. They just seemed eager to go through the motions and get out of there as fast as possible.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Excellent debut album but once again not even close to one of the better or more defining songs.
Pip's Invitation
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They all hated each other, so they may particularly not have wanted to be around each other that night. But loud, fast, unsubtle music and short sets is what you get at punk shows. One of the genius things of the punk format is that live, you can't really tell a "good" performance from a "bad" one unless the band is physically unable to perform its songs.
If they couldn't finish songs or played not fast enough, that would be disappointing. What you got is punk. Which is what you should have expected.
DocHolliday
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The Ramones weren’t known for their melodies.
Don Quixote
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Maybe he was expecting this? (Trigger warning before clicking the link.)
timschochet
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67. Thin Lizzy “Jailbreak” (from Jailbreak)
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There were some great hard rock albums released in 1976; this one might be as good as any of them. And with all apologies to U2 and my favorite The Boomtown Rats, Thin Lizzy might be the best Irish rock band of all time. Certainly Phil Lynott is up there with the greatest rock singers of the era, period. This song rocks and we will be returning to this record.
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There were some great hard rock albums released in 1976; this one might be as good as any of them. And with all apologies to U2 and my favorite The Boomtown Rats, Thin Lizzy might be the best Irish rock band of all time. Certainly Phil Lynott is up there with the greatest rock singers of the era, period. This song rocks and we will be returning to this record.
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67. Thin Lizzy “Jailbreak” (from Jailbreak)
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There were some great hard rock albums released in 1976; this one might be as good as any of them. And with all apologies to U2 and my favorite The Boomtown Rats, Thin Lizzy might be the best Irish rock band of all time. Certainly Phil Lynott is up there with the greatest rock singers of the era, period. This song rocks and we will be returning to this record.
Oh yeah
Saw these guys five times. With:
- Queen at Cobo Arena, $7.50 for nosebleed seats on the side
- REO Speedwagon, Wings Stadium, $7.50 GA floor
- Blue Oyster Cult, IMA Auditorium, $8.50 1st balcony
- Nazareth, Wings Stadium, $7.50 GA
- Journey, Welsh Auditorium, gifted passes
Phil Lynott was an amazing bass player & showman. So much fun.
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In the last artists thread, my #1 Lizzy song came from this album - but not this one or that one.67. Thin Lizzy “Jailbreak” (from Jailbreak)
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There were some great hard rock albums released in 1976; this one might be as good as any of them. And with all apologies to U2 and my favorite The Boomtown Rats, Thin Lizzy might be the best Irish rock band of all time. Certainly Phil Lynott is up there with the greatest rock singers of the era, period. This song rocks and we will be returning to this record.
Oh yeah
Saw these guys five times. With:
- Queen at Cobo Arena, $7.50 for nosebleed seats on the side
- REO Speedwagon, Wings Stadium, $7.50 GA floor
- Blue Oyster Cult, IMA Auditorium, $8.50 1st balcony
- Nazareth, Wings Stadium, $7.50 GA
- Journey, Welsh Auditorium, gifted passes
Phil Lynott was an amazing bass player & showman. So much fun.
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65. Bob Seger “Turn the Page” (from Live Bullet)
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So as every Seger fan knows, the studio version of this song was recorded back in 1972; this is the live version which became famous and a classic rock staple for decades after. I actually find this tune, in both lyrics and melody, to be fine but kind of ordinary (though the sax is excellent). But it’s the yearning in Seger’s vocals which gives it pathos and raises the song to another level.
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So as every Seger fan knows, the studio version of this song was recorded back in 1972; this is the live version which became famous and a classic rock staple for decades after. I actually find this tune, in both lyrics and melody, to be fine but kind of ordinary (though the sax is excellent). But it’s the yearning in Seger’s vocals which gives it pathos and raises the song to another level.
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65. Bob Seger “Turn the Page” (from Live Bullet)
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So as every Seger fan knows, the studio version of this song was recorded back in 1972; this is the live version which became famous and a classic rock staple for decades after. I actually find this tune, in both lyrics and melody, to be fine but kind of ordinary (though the sax is excellent). But it’s the yearning in Seger’s vocals which gives it pathos and raises the song to another level.
yeah, it's pure magic and would have it substantially higher ranked (lower number
) - same for "jailbreak" ...classic.
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I’m not the biggest Seger fan, but really dig this one. As you say, the sax is great and Bob delivers a real emotional performance here.65. Bob Seger “Turn the Page” (from Live Bullet)
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So as every Seger fan knows, the studio version of this song was recorded back in 1972; this is the live version which became famous and a classic rock staple for decades after. I actually find this tune, in both lyrics and melody, to be fine but kind of ordinary (though the sax is excellent). But it’s the yearning in Seger’s vocals which gives it pathos and raises the song to another level.
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I remember it was a huge controversy when Metallica covered Turn the Page, because God forbid a metal band cover a song that's not metal.
Even though Judas Priest did it in the '70s.
Even though Judas Priest did it in the '70s.
timschochet
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Metallica also covered the Thin Lizzy version of “Whiskey In the Jar”. They did a nice job with it too.I remember it was a huge controversy when Metallica covered Turn the Page, because God forbid a metal band cover a song that's not metal.
Even though Judas Priest did it in the '70s.
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Given the subject matter of the song, it isn't surprising that a live version by Bob is the one that rings true.65. Bob Seger “Turn the Page” (from Live Bullet)
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So as every Seger fan knows, the studio version of this song was recorded back in 1972; this is the live version which became famous and a classic rock staple for decades after. I actually find this tune, in both lyrics and melody, to be fine but kind of ordinary (though the sax is excellent). But it’s the yearning in Seger’s vocals which gives it pathos and raises the song to another level.
I enjoyed Seger's songs in the mid to late 70s and then he became a victim of his songs being overplayed with "Old Time Rock and Roll" from Risky Business and "Like A Rock" from the Chevrolet truck ads.
Uruk-Hai
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Zero songs have been overplayed. People have over-listened to them. Unless folks don't think they have free will. Change the channel and/or mute the TV.
zamboni
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Speaking of, I don’t think we’ll be having 2112 here either.
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Being a DJ at wedding dances and other functions in the early to mid 80s, I HAD to play "Old Time R and R" after numerous requests or I would have a riot on my hands.
Plus "Old Time. .." seemed to be played at sporting events, bars, etc. where there wasn't an opportunity to mute it or any channel to change.
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Bob Seger also had some solid 1960s material. Heavy Music and 2 + 2 come to mind.
Love this one. My favorite Segar tune. Had it top 5 in my USA rankings a while back. Just the live version, tho. Studio version isn't nearly as good.65. Bob Seger “Turn the Page” (from Live Bullet)
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So as every Seger fan knows, the studio version of this song was recorded back in 1972; this is the live version which became famous and a classic rock staple for decades after. I actually find this tune, in both lyrics and melody, to be fine but kind of ordinary (though the sax is excellent). But it’s the yearning in Seger’s vocals which gives it pathos and raises the song to another level.
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rockaction
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I just typed a long thing so bear with me for a moment. At first, I disagreed with you, then I tried to see your point and I think I get it.
I wanna know what became of the changes
We waited for love to bring
Were they only the fitful dreams
Of some greater awakening
I've been aware of the time going by
They say in the end it's the wink of an eye . . .
Caught between the longing for love
And the struggle for the legal tender
Where the sirens sing and the church bells ring
and the junk man pounds his fender . . .
And the children solemnly wait
For the ice cream vendor
Out into the cool of the evening
Strolls the Pretender
He knows that all his hopes and dreams
Begin and end there . . .
Ah, the laughter of the lovers
As they run through the night
Leaving nothing for the others
But to . . . tear at the world with all their might
While the ships bearing their dreams
Sail out of sight
I'm gonna be a happy idiot
And struggle for the legal tender
Where the ads take aim and lay their claim
To the heart and the soul of the spender
And believe in whatever may lie
In those things that money can buy
Though true love could have been a contender
Are you there?
Say a prayer for the Pretender
Who started out so young and strong
Only to surrender
It’s heavily edited in favor of Browne’s point. But is your rant born from being pissed that Browne is somehow exploiting or completely unrealistically having the children totally contra their nature by making them solemnly wait for the ice cream vendor as though they were culpable (or even able to be responsible or the adult world’s morass) or rightfully punishable through artistic suffusion? I would say that the notion lacks verisimilitude and that’s what’s drawing your ire, maybe? Please correct me if I’m wrong.
If so, then I get your complaint. Otherwise, I sorta get Browne and what he’s trying to do. But the more I look at the surrounding context the more I think I’m down with your rant. I think that if my interpretation of your complaint is correct, then you're probably right, and it’s unrealistic to the point of undercutting his point other than to have painted a picture.
That is, unless their harried mothers are so affected by the surrounding deadening of the soul that they’ve sent their kids out by shooing them away, or unless the children's parents have died in a war or something else a little more tragic than a metaphorical death that comes from spending money chasing advertisements in the name of false promises and happiness.
Interesting point to make on your end.
/shrugs
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65. Bob Seger “Turn the Page” (from Live Bullet)
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So as every Seger fan knows, the studio version of this song was recorded back in 1972; this is the live version which became famous and a classic rock staple for decades after. I actually find this tune, in both lyrics and melody, to be fine but kind of ordinary (though the sax is excellent). But it’s the yearning in Seger’s vocals which gives it pathos and raises the song to another level.
I'm happy Bob is still with us. He'll be 80 next year, hopefully we'll see him at Super Bowl LiX.
Here's a single no one ever heard:
Persecution Smith (channeling his inner Dylan here)
Here's a young Bob lip syncing his first local hit single:
Bob Seger And The Last Heard - East Side Story
Back in the day he had some good protest songs:
2+2=?
Looking Back
Loved Live Bullet in 8th/9th grade. The only other live album I remember liking back then was Yessongs, which had muffled production and was more of an anthology record. Seger's first live album has the feel of a live show, the energy is great. There was another live album later that year that blew up, and it has it's place. But Live Bullet was more fun. That double album brought me a lot of joy. Also, I seem to have a distinct memory of cleaning dope on this one a lot. No stems no seeds that you don't need....Acapulco Gold is.....bad-*** weed.
Beautiful Loser and the breakthrough album the next year were good ones. People in Michigan were proud he finally hit it big with albums 8, 9 and 10. He got knocked around a lot - 14 years, 7 albums, every one of which was a commercial failure. No wonder he got away from the business for awhile.
Everyone kept saying manager Punch Andrews was to blame. Here's another reason why Michiganders like Bob: he stayed loyal to Punch. You don't ditch your friends just because things aren't going your way.
After the big breakout album that followed Live Bullet I completely lost interest in Seger. He seemed solely focused on writing commercial hits. Don't blame him, he didn't have much growing up in Ann Arbor, and it took 15 years of grinding to get there. Found his niche and wore tf out of it. His marriages were kind of like his career; first 2 lasted one year each, decade plus loyal local gf, then number 3 is the one that worked out - 31 years, 2 kids, ridiculously large house on Upper Straits Lake, and little touring or work.
I can respect that, one boomer to another.
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64. 10cc “The Things We Do For Love” (released as a single)
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Such a gorgeous pop song. It’s one that, all these years later, I still won’t turn off. Critics at the time compared it to the Beatles and I can hear that but I think Paul McCartney would have been proud to have written it. My favorite song by this band.
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Such a gorgeous pop song. It’s one that, all these years later, I still won’t turn off. Critics at the time compared it to the Beatles and I can hear that but I think Paul McCartney would have been proud to have written it. My favorite song by this band.
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63. Warren Zevon “Frank and Jesse James” (from Warren Zevon)
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Beginning with the same beautiful piano riff from “Desperados Under the Eaves”, Zevon’s first album opens with this classic about the Wild West. Just a brilliant tune.
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Beginning with the same beautiful piano riff from “Desperados Under the Eaves”, Zevon’s first album opens with this classic about the Wild West. Just a brilliant tune.
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62. Queen “Tie Your Mother Down” (from A Day At the Races)
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The opening guitar riff by Brian May is one for the ages and this song rocks all the way through. I can still remember seeing this band at the forum in 1980 and when they burst into this song the audience was positively electric. I have never seen a crowd react like that before or since (except this summer when I saw Taylor Swift in Amsterdam- that was the only crowd that matched that energy.)
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The opening guitar riff by Brian May is one for the ages and this song rocks all the way through. I can still remember seeing this band at the forum in 1980 and when they burst into this song the audience was positively electric. I have never seen a crowd react like that before or since (except this summer when I saw Taylor Swift in Amsterdam- that was the only crowd that matched that energy.)
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