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The 2020 Election and FBI Interference (1 Viewer)

ekbeats

Footballguy
We already knew the Media steered the election to Biden by suppressing / discrediting the Hunter Biden laptop story. And yesterday we find out that the FBI warned Facebook about an impending Russian disinformation dump the day before the laptop info was released. This directly led to Facebook suppressing the story. Zuckerberg himself said the impact was meaningful.

Here’s the most damning fact - when the FBI issued that warning it had been investigating Hunter’s laptop for almost a full year. They knew it wasn’t Russian disinformation. To this date they have never produced a shred of evidence that anything related to the laptop was inauthentic.

Talk about a threat to our Democracy.
 

sho nuff

Footballguy
We already knew the Media steered the election to Biden by suppressing / discrediting the Hunter Biden laptop story. And yesterday we find out that the FBI warned Facebook about an impending Russian disinformation dump the day before the laptop info was released. This directly led to Facebook suppressing the story. Zuckerberg himself said the impact was meaningful.

Here’s the most damning fact - when the FBI issued that warning it had been investigating Hunter’s laptop for almost a full year. They knew it wasn’t Russian disinformation. To this date they have never produced a shred of evidence that anything related to the laptop was inauthentic.

Talk about a threat to our Democracy.

Which part was the threat?
They did not tell Facebook not to post the story (in fact, Zuckerberg also stated people were still allowed to spread the story and discuss the story.
Meanwhile...we have people claiming still that the FBI told them or ordered them not to post the story.
There was no interference in the election.

Oddly enough, you all don't think the timing of announcing they were investigating Hillary (and nothing said about them investigating Trump) was not interference?
Why is that?
 

ekbeats

Footballguy
We already knew the Media steered the election to Biden by suppressing / discrediting the Hunter Biden laptop story. And yesterday we find out that the FBI warned Facebook about an impending Russian disinformation dump the day before the laptop info was released. This directly led to Facebook suppressing the story. Zuckerberg himself said the impact was meaningful.

Here’s the most damning fact - when the FBI issued that warning it had been investigating Hunter’s laptop for almost a full year. They knew it wasn’t Russian disinformation. To this date they have never produced a shred of evidence that anything related to the laptop was inauthentic.

Talk about a threat to our Democracy.

Which part was the threat?
They did not tell Facebook not to post the story (in fact, Zuckerberg also stated people were still allowed to spread the story and discuss the story.
Meanwhile...we have people claiming still that the FBI told them or ordered them not to post the story.
There was no interference in the election.

Oddly enough, you all don't think the timing of announcing they were investigating Hillary (and nothing said about them investigating Trump) was not interference?
Why is that?
Do you honestly think the FBI would tell the media, “In the next couple of days you’ll see a laptop produced claiming to be the property of Hunter Biden. This laptop contains Russian disinformation and should not be covered in the news.”
 

Amused to Death

Footballguy
Do you honestly think the FBI would tell the media, “In the next couple of days you’ll see a laptop produced claiming to be the property of Hunter Biden. This laptop contains Russian disinformation and should not be covered in the news.”
I honestly have not paid much attention to the HB laptop story. What was the chain of custody on the laptop? The shop owner received it from someone, gave it to....Rudy? and then somehow the NY post got it?

That's about the extent of what I know.
 

rockaction

Footballguy
It's significant, but won't move the needle of the daily partisan politics game. It's just not enough, and Trump is the greater of two evils.
 

sho nuff

Footballguy
We already knew the Media steered the election to Biden by suppressing / discrediting the Hunter Biden laptop story. And yesterday we find out that the FBI warned Facebook about an impending Russian disinformation dump the day before the laptop info was released. This directly led to Facebook suppressing the story. Zuckerberg himself said the impact was meaningful.

Here’s the most damning fact - when the FBI issued that warning it had been investigating Hunter’s laptop for almost a full year. They knew it wasn’t Russian disinformation. To this date they have never produced a shred of evidence that anything related to the laptop was inauthentic.

Talk about a threat to our Democracy.

Which part was the threat?
They did not tell Facebook not to post the story (in fact, Zuckerberg also stated people were still allowed to spread the story and discuss the story.
Meanwhile...we have people claiming still that the FBI told them or ordered them not to post the story.
There was no interference in the election.

Oddly enough, you all don't think the timing of announcing they were investigating Hillary (and nothing said about them investigating Trump) was not interference?
Why is that?
Do you honestly think the FBI would tell the media, “In the next couple of days you’ll see a laptop produced claiming to be the property of Hunter Biden. This laptop contains Russian disinformation and should not be covered in the news.”

It seems someone is claiming they did in the Biden laptop thread (its in the title of it).

They didn't even tell facebook to take any specific action. Nor did facebook block it from being discussed on their platform.
 

Snotbubbles

Footballguy
To be fair, the FBI didn't say that laptop story was Russian disinformation. They just warned Facebook about Russian disinformation and Facebook made the determination on their own that the laptop story could be disinformation.

But seriously, had Facebook allowed the laptop story to spread like wildfire do you think that would have made people vote for Trump? People now know the laptop is real. They know the Biden's used political influence to make personal gain. They know the Biden's are in bed with China. The country is in the worst shape it's been since the 80s and the current President is much to blame. Yet, they'd still vote for Biden over Trump (or any Republican) in 2024. Some people have TDS really bad.
 

ekbeats

Footballguy
Do you honestly think the FBI would tell the media, “In the next couple of days you’ll see a laptop produced claiming to be the property of Hunter Biden. This laptop contains Russian disinformation and should not be covered in the news.”
I honestly have not paid much attention to the HB laptop story. What was the chain of custody on the laptop? The shop owner received it from someone, gave it to....Rudy? and then somehow the NY post got it?

That's about the extent of what I know.
No. The shop owner tried to give it to the fbi in the summer of 2019. The fbi wouldn’t take it. But a few months later when the Trump impeachment started, the fbi changed its tune and took ownership of the laptop. The fbi had the laptop in the Fall of 2019, a full year before the 2020 election.
 

sho nuff

Footballguy
To be fair, the FBI didn't say that laptop story was Russian disinformation. They just warned Facebook about Russian disinformation and Facebook made the determination on their own that the laptop story could be disinformation.

But seriously, had Facebook allowed the laptop story to spread like wildfire do you think that would have made people vote for Trump? People now know the laptop is real. They know the Biden's used political influence to make personal gain. They know the Biden's are in bed with China. The country is in the worst shape it's been since the 80s and the current President is much to blame. Yet, they'd still vote for Biden over Trump (or any Republican) in 2024. Some people have TDS really bad.

First off...they know Hunter Biden used his dad's name for personal gain. Beyond that...no. (Also, yes its a whatabout...but its odd to just complain about that with Hunter Biden...but still support Trump so much as some do).
Also...the story was allowed to spread on Facebook. According to the interview
"I mean, it sucks. Yeah," Zuckerberg said. "It turned out after the fact — the fact-checkers looked into it, and no one was able to say it was false. Right. So basically, it had this period where it was getting less distribution."

"I think the process was pretty reasonable. You know, we still let people share it," he added
"Our protocol is different from Twitter's. What Twitter did is, they said, 'You can't share this at all.' We didn't do that," he said. "If something is reported to us as potentially misinformation, important misinformation, we use third-party fact-checking because we don't want to be deciding what's true and false."

As for where the country is...I would disagree the current guy is so much to blame any more so than the last few guys or overall monetary policy of this country over several decades.
And yes...I would still vote for Biden over Trump. OVer any republican...no, not so much.
But yes...go for the insult calling others delusional.
 

ekbeats

Footballguy
A lot of folks on full tilt today. I wonder why that might be?

Imagine supporting a guy so much. Be your own heroes folks. He’s not worth it.
You bet im on fill tilt, but it’s not because I support Trump. I hate the guy and hope he never runs for office again. We basically found out that the fbi is corrupt. This won’t end well.
 

ekbeats

Footballguy
But seriously, had Facebook allowed the laptop story to spread like wildfire do you think that would have made people vote for Trump? People now know the laptop is real.
Yes. I think it would have swung the outcome of the election. Just like I think the Russian hack swayed the election in 2016.
 

sho nuff

Footballguy
A lot of folks on full tilt today. I wonder why that might be?

Imagine supporting a guy so much. Be your own heroes folks. He’s not worth it.
You bet im on fill tilt, but it’s not because I support Trump. I hate the guy and hope he never runs for office again. We basically found out that the fbi is corrupt. This won’t end well.
We really did not find that out at all...not even close to what this says.
 

ekbeats

Footballguy
We did? Do tell…
  • The computer repair shop owner calls the FBI in the Summer of 2019 about Hunter's laptop. They aren't interested, which is fishy as hell, especially considering there's been an open DOJ investigation into Hunter's tax affairs since 2018.
  • Later that Fall Trump gets impeached, and suddenly the FBI is interested Hunter's laptop. FBI agents from Albuquerque contacted the shop owner in October 2019, as impeachment proceedings were ongoing in Washington, to discuss the laptop. A few weeks later, FBI agents in Delaware seized the original laptop.
  • So the FBI has the laptop in December 2019.
  • According to whistleblower claims made public two days ago by Sen. Ron Johnson, FBI officials told agents not to investigate first son Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop for months — vowing that the bureau was “not going to change the outcome of the election again.”
  • There are other whistleblower allegations alleging that in August, 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.
  • The FBI either did or did not investigate the Hunter laptop prior to the October 14, 2020 NY Post bombshell. Either way they are corrupt or inept:
    1. If they didn't investigate it, then they were derelict for a few reasons. One, Hunter was being investigated for tax issues and business dealings since 2018. Two, they had to have known that Rudy G. and Tony Bobuliski had a copy of the hard drive and were going to drop their bombshell in a couple days. Three, the FBI knew as early as December 2019 that Hunter Biden believed Russians had stolen his other laptop, which he believed made him vulnerable to blackmail because of compromising evidence on the laptop combined with his father’s presidential ambitions.
    2. If they did investigate it, they certainly knew it was legitimate. The Washington Post was able to do so in a few days using forensic analysis.
  • The FBI warned Zuckerberg about a Russian disinformation on October 13, 2020. The next day the NY Post dropped the laptop bombshell, and a few days after that Tony Bobulinski came forward with his allegations. Coincidence? I think it's naive to think so.
 

ekbeats

Footballguy
Former DNI John Radcliffe was on tucker tonight and he brought up an interesting point. He said that at the time of the alleged FBI “warning,” Radcliffe had been working with FBI leadership and they were all on board that the laptop was not Russian dissing information. And if you go back you’ll see that Radcliffe had issued a statement to that effect a few days after the New York Post story had broken, and a couple days after that the FBI issued a statement saying they had nothing to add to what Radcliffe had said. So the “warning” Zuckerberg received must have came from the lower ranks of the fbi, and fbi leadership may not have even been aware of it.
 

dkp993

Footballguy
Former DNI John Radcliffe was on tucker tonight and he brought up an interesting point. He said that at the time of the alleged FBI “warning,” Radcliffe had been working with FBI leadership and they were all on board that the laptop was not Russian dissing information. And if you go back you’ll see that Radcliffe had issued a statement to that effect a few days after the New York Post story had broken, and a couple days after that the FBI issued a statement saying they had nothing to add to what Radcliffe had said. So the “warning” Zuckerberg received must have came from the lower ranks of the fbi, and fbi leadership may not have even been aware of it.
So not corrupt now? Civil war is cancelled or still on? Just trying to keep up.
 

Witz

Footballguy
We did? Do tell…
  • The computer repair shop owner calls the FBI in the Summer of 2019 about Hunter's laptop. They aren't interested, which is fishy as hell, especially considering there's been an open DOJ investigation into Hunter's tax affairs since 2018.
  • Later that Fall Trump gets impeached, and suddenly the FBI is interested Hunter's laptop. FBI agents from Albuquerque contacted the shop owner in October 2019, as impeachment proceedings were ongoing in Washington, to discuss the laptop. A few weeks later, FBI agents in Delaware seized the original laptop.
  • So the FBI has the laptop in December 2019.
  • According to whistleblower claims made public two days ago by Sen. Ron Johnson, FBI officials told agents not to investigate first son Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop for months — vowing that the bureau was “not going to change the outcome of the election again.”
  • There are other whistleblower allegations alleging that in August, 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.
  • The FBI either did or did not investigate the Hunter laptop prior to the October 14, 2020 NY Post bombshell. Either way they are corrupt or inept:
    1. If they didn't investigate it, then they were derelict for a few reasons. One, Hunter was being investigated for tax issues and business dealings since 2018. Two, they had to have known that Rudy G. and Tony Bobuliski had a copy of the hard drive and were going to drop their bombshell in a couple days. Three, the FBI knew as early as December 2019 that Hunter Biden believed Russians had stolen his other laptop, which he believed made him vulnerable to blackmail because of compromising evidence on the laptop combined with his father’s presidential ambitions.
    2. If they did investigate it, they certainly knew it was legitimate. The Washington Post was able to do so in a few days using forensic analysis.
  • The FBI warned Zuckerberg about a Russian disinformation on October 13, 2020. The next day the NY Post dropped the laptop bombshell, and a few days after that Tony Bobulinski came forward with his allegations. Coincidence? I think it's naive to think so.

Appreciate all the words you typed however waiting to hear where the FBI is corrupt. Also - your timeline is misleading on a number of fronts especially the comment that the Washington Post verified that it was authentic.

Stating that you don’t like Trump while continuing to post nonstop a bunch of whataboutisms really doesn’t make your claims believable IMO but who knows. It sucks that the man who is the face of the party you support is going to prosecuted for a number of high level crimes against our country - I get it - I’d hate to be lumped in with that group as well.
 

ekbeats

Footballguy
We did? Do tell…
  • The computer repair shop owner calls the FBI in the Summer of 2019 about Hunter's laptop. They aren't interested, which is fishy as hell, especially considering there's been an open DOJ investigation into Hunter's tax affairs since 2018.
  • Later that Fall Trump gets impeached, and suddenly the FBI is interested Hunter's laptop. FBI agents from Albuquerque contacted the shop owner in October 2019, as impeachment proceedings were ongoing in Washington, to discuss the laptop. A few weeks later, FBI agents in Delaware seized the original laptop.
  • So the FBI has the laptop in December 2019.
  • According to whistleblower claims made public two days ago by Sen. Ron Johnson, FBI officials told agents not to investigate first son Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop for months — vowing that the bureau was “not going to change the outcome of the election again.”
  • There are other whistleblower allegations alleging that in August, 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.
  • The FBI either did or did not investigate the Hunter laptop prior to the October 14, 2020 NY Post bombshell. Either way they are corrupt or inept:
    1. If they didn't investigate it, then they were derelict for a few reasons. One, Hunter was being investigated for tax issues and business dealings since 2018. Two, they had to have known that Rudy G. and Tony Bobuliski had a copy of the hard drive and were going to drop their bombshell in a couple days. Three, the FBI knew as early as December 2019 that Hunter Biden believed Russians had stolen his other laptop, which he believed made him vulnerable to blackmail because of compromising evidence on the laptop combined with his father’s presidential ambitions.
    2. If they did investigate it, they certainly knew it was legitimate. The Washington Post was able to do so in a few days using forensic analysis.
  • The FBI warned Zuckerberg about a Russian disinformation on October 13, 2020. The next day the NY Post dropped the laptop bombshell, and a few days after that Tony Bobulinski came forward with his allegations. Coincidence? I think it's naive to think so.

Appreciate all the words you typed however waiting to hear where the FBI is corrupt. Also - your timeline is misleading on a number of fronts especially the comment that the Washington Post verified that it was authentic.

Stating that you don’t like Trump while continuing to post nonstop a bunch of whataboutisms really doesn’t make your claims believable IMO but who knows. It sucks that the man who is the face of the party you support is going to prosecuted for a number of high level crimes against our country - I get it - I’d hate to be lumped in with that group as well.
I voted for Biden. I hate Trump, but you know what I hate more? A politicized justice system. And we clearly have that today. You’re not concerned because, well, sidez. I don’t play sides. I call it as I see it.
 

ekbeats

Footballguy
Former DNI John Radcliffe was on tucker tonight and he brought up an interesting point. He said that at the time of the alleged FBI “warning,” Radcliffe had been working with FBI leadership and they were all on board that the laptop was not Russian dissing information. And if you go back you’ll see that Radcliffe had issued a statement to that effect a few days after the New York Post story had broken, and a couple days after that the FBI issued a statement saying they had nothing to add to what Radcliffe had said. So the “warning” Zuckerberg received must have came from the lower ranks of the fbi, and fbi leadership may not have even been aware of it.
So not corrupt now? Civil war is cancelled or still on? Just trying to keep up.
It is corrupt. It is loaded with mid level staffers like Strzok, Page, and whoever warned Facebook. I mean, it’s proven and it’s irrefutable. Hunter Biden’s laptop was legitimate. There was never one scintilla of evidence that it was Russian disinformation. Yet the DNC and Joe Biden lied that is was disinformation. And 51 former intelligence officials lied saying it was Russian disinformation. And the MSM lied saying it was Russian disinformation. And now we know that the day before the laptop story broke, an FBI official warned Facebook that a Russian disinformation dump was coming. What part of this don’t you understand exactly?

 

ekbeats

Footballguy
Be the change you want to see. First step, get off Tucker Carlson. That **** will rot you, man.
True dat. Same goes for any hyper-partisan news site. I’m hoping upon hope that CNN means what it says and is returning to down the middle news reporting. I’m actually migrating to that network to support this effort.
 

Witz

Footballguy
We did? Do tell…
  • The computer repair shop owner calls the FBI in the Summer of 2019 about Hunter's laptop. They aren't interested, which is fishy as hell, especially considering there's been an open DOJ investigation into Hunter's tax affairs since 2018.
  • Later that Fall Trump gets impeached, and suddenly the FBI is interested Hunter's laptop. FBI agents from Albuquerque contacted the shop owner in October 2019, as impeachment proceedings were ongoing in Washington, to discuss the laptop. A few weeks later, FBI agents in Delaware seized the original laptop.
  • So the FBI has the laptop in December 2019.
  • According to whistleblower claims made public two days ago by Sen. Ron Johnson, FBI officials told agents not to investigate first son Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop for months — vowing that the bureau was “not going to change the outcome of the election again.”
  • There are other whistleblower allegations alleging that in August, 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.
  • The FBI either did or did not investigate the Hunter laptop prior to the October 14, 2020 NY Post bombshell. Either way they are corrupt or inept:
    1. If they didn't investigate it, then they were derelict for a few reasons. One, Hunter was being investigated for tax issues and business dealings since 2018. Two, they had to have known that Rudy G. and Tony Bobuliski had a copy of the hard drive and were going to drop their bombshell in a couple days. Three, the FBI knew as early as December 2019 that Hunter Biden believed Russians had stolen his other laptop, which he believed made him vulnerable to blackmail because of compromising evidence on the laptop combined with his father’s presidential ambitions.
    2. If they did investigate it, they certainly knew it was legitimate. The Washington Post was able to do so in a few days using forensic analysis.
  • The FBI warned Zuckerberg about a Russian disinformation on October 13, 2020. The next day the NY Post dropped the laptop bombshell, and a few days after that Tony Bobulinski came forward with his allegations. Coincidence? I think it's naive to think so.

Appreciate all the words you typed however waiting to hear where the FBI is corrupt. Also - your timeline is misleading on a number of fronts especially the comment that the Washington Post verified that it was authentic.

Stating that you don’t like Trump while continuing to post nonstop a bunch of whataboutisms really doesn’t make your claims believable IMO but who knows. It sucks that the man who is the face of the party you support is going to prosecuted for a number of high level crimes against our country - I get it - I’d hate to be lumped in with that group as well.
I voted for Biden. I hate Trump, but you know what I hate more? A politicized justice system. And we clearly have that today. You’re not concerned because, well, sidez. I don’t play sides. I call it as I see it.

So is it corrupt or politicized or both or neither? Sorry but having trouble keeping up with the direction we’re trying to go with this.

Not concerned because ‘sidez’? What side am I on again exactly? In all my times of voting I’ve voted the person, not the party. Do I despise Trump - absolutely - if that means I’m on a side, so be it.

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ekbeats

Footballguy
We did? Do tell…
  • The computer repair shop owner calls the FBI in the Summer of 2019 about Hunter's laptop. They aren't interested, which is fishy as hell, especially considering there's been an open DOJ investigation into Hunter's tax affairs since 2018.
  • Later that Fall Trump gets impeached, and suddenly the FBI is interested Hunter's laptop. FBI agents from Albuquerque contacted the shop owner in October 2019, as impeachment proceedings were ongoing in Washington, to discuss the laptop. A few weeks later, FBI agents in Delaware seized the original laptop.
  • So the FBI has the laptop in December 2019.
  • According to whistleblower claims made public two days ago by Sen. Ron Johnson, FBI officials told agents not to investigate first son Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop for months — vowing that the bureau was “not going to change the outcome of the election again.”
  • There are other whistleblower allegations alleging that in August, 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.
  • The FBI either did or did not investigate the Hunter laptop prior to the October 14, 2020 NY Post bombshell. Either way they are corrupt or inept:
    1. If they didn't investigate it, then they were derelict for a few reasons. One, Hunter was being investigated for tax issues and business dealings since 2018. Two, they had to have known that Rudy G. and Tony Bobuliski had a copy of the hard drive and were going to drop their bombshell in a couple days. Three, the FBI knew as early as December 2019 that Hunter Biden believed Russians had stolen his other laptop, which he believed made him vulnerable to blackmail because of compromising evidence on the laptop combined with his father’s presidential ambitions.
    2. If they did investigate it, they certainly knew it was legitimate. The Washington Post was able to do so in a few days using forensic analysis.
  • The FBI warned Zuckerberg about a Russian disinformation on October 13, 2020. The next day the NY Post dropped the laptop bombshell, and a few days after that Tony Bobulinski came forward with his allegations. Coincidence? I think it's naive to think so.

Appreciate all the words you typed however waiting to hear where the FBI is corrupt. Also - your timeline is misleading on a number of fronts especially the comment that the Washington Post verified that it was authentic.

Stating that you don’t like Trump while continuing to post nonstop a bunch of whataboutisms really doesn’t make your claims believable IMO but who knows. It sucks that the man who is the face of the party you support is going to prosecuted for a number of high level crimes against our country - I get it - I’d hate to be lumped in with that group as well.
I voted for Biden. I hate Trump, but you know what I hate more? A politicized justice system. And we clearly have that today. You’re not concerned because, well, sidez. I don’t play sides. I call it as I see it.

So is it corrupt or politicized or both or neither? Sorry but having trouble keeping up with the direction we’re trying to go with this.

Not concerned because ‘sidez’? What side am I on again exactly? In all my times of voting I’ve voted the person, not the party. Do I despise Trump - absolutely - if that means I’m on a side, so be it.

Bush
Clinton
Clinton
Bush
Bush
Obama
Romney
Clinton
Biden
Nice. 🤙. Apologies for getting that wrong. Your voting history is almost identical to mine, except I voted for Obama twice and Trump instead of Clinton (big regret there). I have voted for the winner in every election in my life. 5 Democrats and 4 Republicans.

I usually vote based on the 2 or 3 biggest issues I see in the country. Right now my top 3 are close together. My #1 issue is Trump. We can’t afford another 4 years of him. My #2 is the economy, and #3 is the Far Left and their bias influence in education, the MSM, and now apparently the FBI. Right now it looks like Desantis will be my choice, and a potential winner as he is currently tied with Trump as the Vegas favorite.
 

FairWarning

Footballguy
Be the change you want to see. First step, get off Tucker Carlson. That **** will rot you, man.
True dat. Same goes for any hyper-partisan news site. I’m hoping upon hope that CNN means what it says and is returning to down the middle news reporting. I’m actually migrating to that network to support this effort.
Where did you hear about CNN saying that?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...gears-from-partisanship-news-political-center

I’m not buying it, time will tell.
 

Rubiobot

Footballguy
Be the change you want to see. First step, get off Tucker Carlson. That **** will rot you, man.
True dat. Same goes for any hyper-partisan news site. I’m hoping upon hope that CNN means what it says and is returning to down the middle news reporting. I’m actually migrating to that network to support this effort.
Where did you hear about CNN saying that?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...gears-from-partisanship-news-political-center

I’m not buying it, time will tell.
One can only hope.
 

FairWarning

Footballguy
Be the change you want to see. First step, get off Tucker Carlson. That **** will rot you, man.
True dat. Same goes for any hyper-partisan news site. I’m hoping upon hope that CNN means what it says and is returning to down the middle news reporting. I’m actually migrating to that network to support this effort.
Where did you hear about CNN saying that?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...gears-from-partisanship-news-political-center

I’m not buying it, time will tell.
One can only hope.
As long as their prime time shows are all left, I don’t see it.
 

Rich Conway

Footballguy
I usually vote based on the 2 or 3 biggest issues I see in the country. Right now my top 3 are close together. My #1 issue is Trump. We can’t afford another 4 years of him. My #2 is the economy, and #3 is the Far Left and their bias influence in education, the MSM, and now apparently the FBI. Right now it looks like Desantis will be my choice, and a potential winner as he is currently tied with Trump as the Vegas favorite.
What happened to gun control being your number one issue?
 

moleculo

Footballguy
Haha.

Republicans don't ACTUALLY case about children of politicians profitng off of their influence.

Edit: or about the FBI making a call that potentially swayed an election. Just ask Jim Comey.
 

lazyike

Footballguy
A lot of folks on full tilt today. I wonder why that might be?

Imagine supporting a guy so much. Be your own heroes folks. He’s not worth it.
Imagine blindly hating someone so much you can't recognize that Trump is not the story here.
Imagine loving a guy so much that you don’t care if our nation’s Classified and Top Secret information that if shared or fell into the wrong hands would jeopardize our national security, reveal our undercover agents, make our allies scared or reluctant to work with us because of how our leaders ( including Hillary) mishandle classified info. And all along not asking the million dollar question “why did DJT have or want these documents?”
 
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djmich

Footballguy
We did? Do tell…
  • The computer repair shop owner calls the FBI in the Summer of 2019 about Hunter's laptop. They aren't interested, which is fishy as hell, especially considering there's been an open DOJ investigation into Hunter's tax affairs since 2018.
  • Later that Fall Trump gets impeached, and suddenly the FBI is interested Hunter's laptop. FBI agents from Albuquerque contacted the shop owner in October 2019, as impeachment proceedings were ongoing in Washington, to discuss the laptop. A few weeks later, FBI agents in Delaware seized the original laptop.
  • So the FBI has the laptop in December 2019.
  • According to whistleblower claims made public two days ago by Sen. Ron Johnson, FBI officials told agents not to investigate first son Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop for months — vowing that the bureau was “not going to change the outcome of the election again.”
  • There are other whistleblower allegations alleging that in August, 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.
  • The FBI either did or did not investigate the Hunter laptop prior to the October 14, 2020 NY Post bombshell. Either way they are corrupt or inept:
    1. If they didn't investigate it, then they were derelict for a few reasons. One, Hunter was being investigated for tax issues and business dealings since 2018. Two, they had to have known that Rudy G. and Tony Bobuliski had a copy of the hard drive and were going to drop their bombshell in a couple days. Three, the FBI knew as early as December 2019 that Hunter Biden believed Russians had stolen his other laptop, which he believed made him vulnerable to blackmail because of compromising evidence on the laptop combined with his father’s presidential ambitions.
    2. If they did investigate it, they certainly knew it was legitimate. The Washington Post was able to do so in a few days using forensic analysis.
  • The FBI warned Zuckerberg about a Russian disinformation on October 13, 2020. The next day the NY Post dropped the laptop bombshell, and a few days after that Tony Bobulinski came forward with his allegations. Coincidence? I think it's naive to think so.

Appreciate all the words you typed however waiting to hear where the FBI is corrupt. Also - your timeline is misleading on a number of fronts especially the comment that the Washington Post verified that it was authentic.

Stating that you don’t like Trump while continuing to post nonstop a bunch of whataboutisms really doesn’t make your claims believable IMO but who knows. It sucks that the man who is the face of the party you support is going to prosecuted for a number of high level crimes against our country - I get it - I’d hate to be lumped in with that group as well.
I voted for Biden. I hate Trump, but you know what I hate more? A politicized justice system. And we clearly have that today. You’re not concerned because, well, sidez. I don’t play sides. I call it as I see it.
Yep, funny to watch the same posters play the same roles over and over again.
 

djmich

Footballguy
Imagine blindly hating someone so much you can't recognize that Trump is not the story here.

There's no blind hate for most of us. He earned every bit of it.
True, should have been imagine hating someone so much you’re too blind to recognize that Trump is not the story here.

Trump had this effect comparable to forcing people to drink a bottle of whisky and all of their inhibitions are gone and true motivations laid bare. Lot of people still hung over.
 

knowledge dropper

Footballguy
Imagine blindly hating someone so much you can't recognize that Trump is not the story here.

There's no blind hate for most of us. He earned every bit of it.
True, should have been imagine hating someone so much you’re too blind to recognize that Trump is not the story here.

Trump had this effect comparable to forcing people to drink a bottle of whisky and all of their inhibitions are gone and true motivations laid bare. Lot of people still hung over.
I think it is called Long Haul TDS
 

KarmaPolice

Footballguy
We did? Do tell…
  • The computer repair shop owner calls the FBI in the Summer of 2019 about Hunter's laptop. They aren't interested, which is fishy as hell, especially considering there's been an open DOJ investigation into Hunter's tax affairs since 2018.
  • Later that Fall Trump gets impeached, and suddenly the FBI is interested Hunter's laptop. FBI agents from Albuquerque contacted the shop owner in October 2019, as impeachment proceedings were ongoing in Washington, to discuss the laptop. A few weeks later, FBI agents in Delaware seized the original laptop.
  • So the FBI has the laptop in December 2019.
  • According to whistleblower claims made public two days ago by Sen. Ron Johnson, FBI officials told agents not to investigate first son Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop for months — vowing that the bureau was “not going to change the outcome of the election again.”
  • There are other whistleblower allegations alleging that in August, 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.
  • The FBI either did or did not investigate the Hunter laptop prior to the October 14, 2020 NY Post bombshell. Either way they are corrupt or inept:
    1. If they didn't investigate it, then they were derelict for a few reasons. One, Hunter was being investigated for tax issues and business dealings since 2018. Two, they had to have known that Rudy G. and Tony Bobuliski had a copy of the hard drive and were going to drop their bombshell in a couple days. Three, the FBI knew as early as December 2019 that Hunter Biden believed Russians had stolen his other laptop, which he believed made him vulnerable to blackmail because of compromising evidence on the laptop combined with his father’s presidential ambitions.
    2. If they did investigate it, they certainly knew it was legitimate. The Washington Post was able to do so in a few days using forensic analysis.
  • The FBI warned Zuckerberg about a Russian disinformation on October 13, 2020. The next day the NY Post dropped the laptop bombshell, and a few days after that Tony Bobulinski came forward with his allegations. Coincidence? I think it's naive to think so.

Appreciate all the words you typed however waiting to hear where the FBI is corrupt. Also - your timeline is misleading on a number of fronts especially the comment that the Washington Post verified that it was authentic.

Stating that you don’t like Trump while continuing to post nonstop a bunch of whataboutisms really doesn’t make your claims believable IMO but who knows. It sucks that the man who is the face of the party you support is going to prosecuted for a number of high level crimes against our country - I get it - I’d hate to be lumped in with that group as well.
I voted for Biden. I hate Trump, but you know what I hate more? A politicized justice system. And we clearly have that today. You’re not concerned because, well, sidez. I don’t play sides. I call it as I see it.

So is it corrupt or politicized or both or neither? Sorry but having trouble keeping up with the direction we’re trying to go with this.

Not concerned because ‘sidez’? What side am I on again exactly? In all my times of voting I’ve voted the person, not the party. Do I despise Trump - absolutely - if that means I’m on a side, so be it.

Bush
Clinton
Clinton
Bush
Bush
Obama
Romney
Clinton
Biden
Nice. 🤙. Apologies for getting that wrong. Your voting history is almost identical to mine, except I voted for Obama twice and Trump instead of Clinton (big regret there). I have voted for the winner in every election in my life. 5 Democrats and 4 Republicans.

I usually vote based on the 2 or 3 biggest issues I see in the country. Right now my top 3 are close together. My #1 issue is Trump. We can’t afford another 4 years of him. My #2 is the economy, and #3 is the Far Left and their bias influence in education, the MSM, and now apparently the FBI. Right now it looks like Desantis will be my choice, and a potential winner as he is currently tied with Trump as the Vegas favorite.

Gun regulation got passed over?

ETA: sorry, didn't see RC's post.
 

ekbeats

Footballguy
We did? Do tell…
  • The computer repair shop owner calls the FBI in the Summer of 2019 about Hunter's laptop. They aren't interested, which is fishy as hell, especially considering there's been an open DOJ investigation into Hunter's tax affairs since 2018.
  • Later that Fall Trump gets impeached, and suddenly the FBI is interested Hunter's laptop. FBI agents from Albuquerque contacted the shop owner in October 2019, as impeachment proceedings were ongoing in Washington, to discuss the laptop. A few weeks later, FBI agents in Delaware seized the original laptop.
  • So the FBI has the laptop in December 2019.
  • According to whistleblower claims made public two days ago by Sen. Ron Johnson, FBI officials told agents not to investigate first son Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop for months — vowing that the bureau was “not going to change the outcome of the election again.”
  • There are other whistleblower allegations alleging that in August, 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.
  • The FBI either did or did not investigate the Hunter laptop prior to the October 14, 2020 NY Post bombshell. Either way they are corrupt or inept:
    1. If they didn't investigate it, then they were derelict for a few reasons. One, Hunter was being investigated for tax issues and business dealings since 2018. Two, they had to have known that Rudy G. and Tony Bobuliski had a copy of the hard drive and were going to drop their bombshell in a couple days. Three, the FBI knew as early as December 2019 that Hunter Biden believed Russians had stolen his other laptop, which he believed made him vulnerable to blackmail because of compromising evidence on the laptop combined with his father’s presidential ambitions.
    2. If they did investigate it, they certainly knew it was legitimate. The Washington Post was able to do so in a few days using forensic analysis.
  • The FBI warned Zuckerberg about a Russian disinformation on October 13, 2020. The next day the NY Post dropped the laptop bombshell, and a few days after that Tony Bobulinski came forward with his allegations. Coincidence? I think it's naive to think so.

Appreciate all the words you typed however waiting to hear where the FBI is corrupt. Also - your timeline is misleading on a number of fronts especially the comment that the Washington Post verified that it was authentic.

Stating that you don’t like Trump while continuing to post nonstop a bunch of whataboutisms really doesn’t make your claims believable IMO but who knows. It sucks that the man who is the face of the party you support is going to prosecuted for a number of high level crimes against our country - I get it - I’d hate to be lumped in with that group as well.
I voted for Biden. I hate Trump, but you know what I hate more? A politicized justice system. And we clearly have that today. You’re not concerned because, well, sidez. I don’t play sides. I call it as I see it.

So is it corrupt or politicized or both or neither? Sorry but having trouble keeping up with the direction we’re trying to go with this.

Not concerned because ‘sidez’? What side am I on again exactly? In all my times of voting I’ve voted the person, not the party. Do I despise Trump - absolutely - if that means I’m on a side, so be it.

Bush
Clinton
Clinton
Bush
Bush
Obama
Romney
Clinton
Biden
Nice. 🤙. Apologies for getting that wrong. Your voting history is almost identical to mine, except I voted for Obama twice and Trump instead of Clinton (big regret there). I have voted for the winner in every election in my life. 5 Democrats and 4 Republicans.

I usually vote based on the 2 or 3 biggest issues I see in the country. Right now my top 3 are close together. My #1 issue is Trump. We can’t afford another 4 years of him. My #2 is the economy, and #3 is the Far Left and their bias influence in education, the MSM, and now apparently the FBI. Right now it looks like Desantis will be my choice, and a potential winner as he is currently tied with Trump as the Vegas favorite.

Gun regulation got passed over?

ETA: sorry, didn't see RC's post.
Yeah, gun control is right there as well.
 

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