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The American Eagle Sydney Sweeney ad (4 Viewers)

She was really good in Immaculate. My wife made me watch it, but it was an enjoyable viewing experience.

I didn't know she was in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
 
She was really good in Immaculate. My wife made me watch it, but it was an enjoyable viewing experience.

I didn't know she was in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Don’t feel like you're the only one. I had no idea either. I liked that movie, too. I’ll have to look up who she was.
 
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She was really good in Immaculate. My wife made me watch it, but it was an enjoyable viewing experience.

I didn't know she was in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Don’t feel lonely. I had no idea either. I liked that movie, too. I’ll have to look up who she was.

Same. Would bet the house she was part of Manson's harem.

Yeah. I would think the main one. They were all sort of grotesque, though. Tarantino with the hairy toes on the brunette Pitt is driving around. Or was it her legs? Whatever it was he lingered the camera on it. Foot fetish. Pervert.

I kid. Kind of.
 
and can somebody give me the nutshell of this current outrage, please.

I don't social media, and keep my news intake to... news.

Basically a physically blessed woman is doing a commercial for a clothing brand and some folks are outraged :shrug:
Also, the jeans v. genes joke could be taken to be suggesting that the best "genes" are blonde haired and blue eyed if you want to overthink it.

If you want to overthink it more, she's a natural brunette. But nobody in this wave of outrage is over-thinking anything....or even really thinking.
If you want to overthink it that makes it even worse because they are saying people should deny their true self to conform to this specific standard of "good". I think like all things, it's somewhere in between. People are probably overreacting but also I don't believe nobody involved anywhere in the process of planning and making this didn't also see this connection and either agree with the concept or like the idea that it could cause controversy. I find it hard to care much anymore for any of it.

I just saw the photo of the ad. Are we really calling this 'blonde' now? As a natural blond, I think that's really stretching it. At best it's brunette with blonde highlights.
Besides, the only people looking at her hair are straight women and gay men.
I wasn’t aware she had a head :shrug:
 
In fairness to the "loony" people making a big deal out of it, heritable traits have crept back into the politically adjacent discourse in an unusually overt (I called it "subtle but that is exactly the wrong word here) and problematic way. I'm not one of the "loons," but I get what they're reacting to. It's quite sad that it is this way, but I get why the radicals have their antennae up. I just wish we could debate it all like adults instead of the hysterical posturing and shaming of both sides of the debate that is likely happening on social media right now.

I mean, the commercial is almost certainly not meant to do what the people who are complaining about it accuse it of, in my opinion, but on social media the issue of genes, genetics, and eugenics are front and center among those who are more political in their outlook and more radically inclined within it.

eta* Oh, my word, I just saw the Good Morning America clip. Let's bury this for the stupidity that it is. I get if some radically left-wing randos or girls that read Teen Vogue for the articles (same thing) want to post a TikTok video where they dance, shake, level with their audience, and complain, but if this is a soft news story for people that watch morning television then I want out. It is lunacy to cover this and frame it in that way. Every time I stick up for something that seems too ludicrous to be mainstreamed it turns out to be almost exactly that—ludicrously mainstreamed.
 
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and can somebody give me the nutshell of this current outrage, please.

I don't social media, and keep my news intake to... news.

Basically a physically blessed woman is doing a commercial for a clothing brand and some folks are outraged :shrug:
Also, the jeans v. genes joke could be taken to be suggesting that the best "genes" are blonde haired and blue eyed if you want to overthink it.

If you want to overthink it more, she's a natural brunette. But nobody in this wave of outrage is over-thinking anything....or even really thinking.
If you want to overthink it that makes it even worse because they are saying people should deny their true self to conform to this specific standard of "good". I think like all things, it's somewhere in between. People are probably overreacting but also I don't believe nobody involved anywhere in the process of planning and making this didn't also see this connection and either agree with the concept or like the idea that it could cause controversy. I find it hard to care much anymore for any of it.

I just saw the photo of the ad. Are we really calling this 'blonde' now? As a natural blond, I think that's really stretching it. At best it's brunette with blonde highlights.
Besides, the only people looking at her hair are straight women and gay men.
I wasn’t aware she had a head :shrug:
That’s someone’s daughter, guy
 
She was really good in Immaculate. My wife made me watch it, but it was an enjoyable viewing experience.

I didn't know she was in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Don’t feel lonely. I had no idea either. I liked that movie, too. I’ll have to look up who she was.

Same. Would bet the house she was part of Manson's harem.
Yep, the Manson crew was loaded with what are now pretty successful young stars: Sydney Sweeney, Mikey Madison who just won Best Actress, Lena Dunham. Austin Butler, Margaret Qualley, Dakota Fanning, Maya Hawke.
 
I just thought it was a clever word play for jeans/genes. Nothing more......nothing less.
As I expressed earlier, I can see where yeah, maybe, the ad wizards should have seen how this can be interpreted. A blonde hair, blued eyed girl with good "genes" could be seen the wrong way by people who are looking for reasons to be outraged.

I admit that when I first watched the ad (though I knew it was "controversial" and therefore I was subconsciously looking for controversy) I did somewhat cringe when the above occurred.
 
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"Sydney Sweeney is releasing soap that contains her bathwater for $8/bar."

Who tf is so desperate to come into contact with lady part-adjacent soap that they're buying this? THAT'S the kind of stupidity that should have people questioning ####. I want a tariff on everything that comes out of the mouth of anyone who has purchased one of these.

What if we purchased two (or more) of these? :oldunsure:
You owe me $.35 for that sentence. I was conservative and left out the "(or more)". Ywia
 
News outlets reporting things like "people on social media are saying..." are ones that I'm probably not all that interested in hearing from. First, I'm guessing like half of these "people" online are bots generating comments. Second, people complaining on social media shouldn't be seen as newsworthy. If someone wants to do an actual scientific poll about how people feel about this ad campaign, then maybe I'll have some interest in discussing whether or not it is racist. As it stands now, I find it hard to believe this is a significantly widespread complaint. I think I'd have a hard time finding anyone IRL that cares about this at all.
The news does this type of stuff all the time. I remember a New York Post article “Italian Americans outraged by Chris Pratt playing Mario”.

The article was backed up by like three moronic tweets - and who knows if those people were really Italian.

We love fake outrage in this Country.
 
News outlets reporting things like "people on social media are saying..." are ones that I'm probably not all that interested in hearing from. First, I'm guessing like half of these "people" online are bots generating comments. Second, people complaining on social media shouldn't be seen as newsworthy. If someone wants to do an actual scientific poll about how people feel about this ad campaign, then maybe I'll have some interest in discussing whether or not it is racist. As it stands now, I find it hard to believe this is a significantly widespread complaint. I think I'd have a hard time finding anyone IRL that cares about this at all.
The news does this type of stuff all the time. I remember a New York Post article “Italian Americans outraged by Chris Pratt playing Mario”.

The article was backed up by like three moronic tweets - and who knows if those people were really Italian.

We love fake outrage in this Country.
Except now they back it up with advanced degree experts that a good chunk of the population trusts.
 
News outlets reporting things like "people on social media are saying..." are ones that I'm probably not all that interested in hearing from. First, I'm guessing like half of these "people" online are bots generating comments. Second, people complaining on social media shouldn't be seen as newsworthy. If someone wants to do an actual scientific poll about how people feel about this ad campaign, then maybe I'll have some interest in discussing whether or not it is racist. As it stands now, I find it hard to believe this is a significantly widespread complaint. I think I'd have a hard time finding anyone IRL that cares about this at all.
The news does this type of stuff all the time. I remember a New York Post article “Italian Americans outraged by Chris Pratt playing Mario”.

The article was backed up by like three moronic tweets - and who knows if those people were really Italian.

We love fake outrage in this Country.

The only thing we love more than fake outrage is outrage over fake outrage!
 
The scary thing there is always a "Professor" there to be interviewed to justify the outrage. These are the people we're putting in front of young minds.
 
News outlets reporting things like "people on social media are saying..." are ones that I'm probably not all that interested in hearing from. First, I'm guessing like half of these "people" online are bots generating comments. Second, people complaining on social media shouldn't be seen as newsworthy. If someone wants to do an actual scientific poll about how people feel about this ad campaign, then maybe I'll have some interest in discussing whether or not it is racist. As it stands now, I find it hard to believe this is a significantly widespread complaint. I think I'd have a hard time finding anyone IRL that cares about this at all.
The news does this type of stuff all the time. I remember a New York Post article “Italian Americans outraged by Chris Pratt playing Mario”.

The article was backed up by like three moronic tweets - and who knows if those people were really Italian.

We love fake outrage in this Country.

The only thing we love more than fake outrage is outrage over fake outrage!
What? That's outrageous! :angry:
 
I just thought it was a clever word play for jeans/genes. Nothing more......nothing less.
As I expressed earlier, I can where yeah, maybe, the ad wizards should have seen how this can be interpreted. A blonde hair, blued eyed girl with good "genes" could be seen the wrong way by people who are looking for reasons to be outraged.

I admit that when I first watched the ad (though I knew it was "controversial" and therefore I was subconsciously looking for controversy) I did somewhat cringe when the above occurred.
I agree to the point that many things have been ruined by always looking for the controversy. There are plenty of ads, shows, statements, etc that I know will get cancelled because someone is always looking for the bad meaning. I miss the days where you could see something and just think it's clever without there being some underlying bad meaning forced into the equation.

I think this goes back to thinking too much about things. Sometimes a word play is just a word play. Sometimes a joke is just a joke. If people stopped looking for hidden meanings (mostly negative meanings) and just took it at face value this world would be much better. I get disappointed when something gets overblown like this when the intent of the original thing was never even thought of by the creator and people force meaning on it. Sure I can see the negative connotation but was that the intent? I highly doubt it.

If people stopped doing this for everything I think many things would be much better and people would be less offended. I wish people would look more at what was intended by the person doing the act and less into why does this offend me and "my truth" (i hate that phrase).
 
News outlets reporting things like "people on social media are saying..." are ones that I'm probably not all that interested in hearing from. First, I'm guessing like half of these "people" online are bots generating comments. Second, people complaining on social media shouldn't be seen as newsworthy. If someone wants to do an actual scientific poll about how people feel about this ad campaign, then maybe I'll have some interest in discussing whether or not it is racist. As it stands now, I find it hard to believe this is a significantly widespread complaint. I think I'd have a hard time finding anyone IRL that cares about this at all.
The news does this type of stuff all the time. I remember a New York Post article “Italian Americans outraged by Chris Pratt playing Mario”.

The article was backed up by like three moronic tweets - and who knows if those people were really Italian.

We love fake outrage in this Country.

The only thing we love more than fake outrage is outrage over fake outrage!

It is crazy the amount of people that reacted to this article. This is something that 0.01% of the population may actively care about, yet it gets pushed up to the top of many sites because people are looking to be outraged at other people being outraged.

Just read this thread, lol. I am guilty too in this case, usually i skip these ridiculous stories and i have posted 3 times already in this thread.

edit: My biggest complaint with this whole thing is not the outrage aspect. It is that many news sites just randomly quote a few people from social media and turn it into an article. Journalism is terrible on 90% of the internet now.
 
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News outlets reporting things like "people on social media are saying..." are ones that I'm probably not all that interested in hearing from. First, I'm guessing like half of these "people" online are bots generating comments. Second, people complaining on social media shouldn't be seen as newsworthy. If someone wants to do an actual scientific poll about how people feel about this ad campaign, then maybe I'll have some interest in discussing whether or not it is racist. As it stands now, I find it hard to believe this is a significantly widespread complaint. I think I'd have a hard time finding anyone IRL that cares about this at all.

I too don't like the reporting where it's "people on social media are saying" and they prove their point posting one tweet from an account wtih 8 followers.

This is not that.

This is ABC News and Good Morning America.

 
The scary thing there is always a "Professor" there to be interviewed to justify the outrage. These are the people we're putting in front of young minds.
Most professors (I was one for a bit) are reasonable and level-headed. Some professors, like there are some in every profession, are nutcases.

I really don't find this situation that crazy to grasp. American Eagle put out probably an innocent ad but contained a clear potential for misinterpretation that the ad creators should have caught (unless they decided that outrage was a good thing to get people discussing their ad). Dumb by them and they should have known better. Then, a small percentage of viewers identified the cringe-worthy "joke" and got overly outraged. Dumb by them as well.
 
Speaking as one of these "children" that are allegedly being looked after all the time, we'd rather you worry about yourselves and focus on you, your actions and what you can control. We're fine. We don't need your "help" or "protection".

There is always someone to be offended. I don't know where this discomfort in disagreement came from, but its pervasive. Grown adults can't handle being in disagreement with each other. They feel the need to shame others into their position. My dad claims these are the same people who grew up with participation trophies and have been told that all opinions are equally valid and deserve respect/consideration. Fortunately, that wasn't taught in my house. Rather, we were taught to be our own person. We were taught to do our best and learn in our failures and have enough self esteem to acknowledge wrong and work to fix it moving forward.

Anyone ever wonder why some aren't impacted by "cancel culture"? Think about Eminem, the South Park dudes, etc. They aren't impacted because they don't give a crap and don't buy into the nonsense. They don't care what people think of them. They act/speak as they feel and that's good enough for them. They don't care if they are on an island. "Cancel culture" only works if we buy into it.
 
The scary thing there is always a "Professor" there to be interviewed to justify the outrage. These are the people we're putting in front of young minds.
Most professors (I was one for a bit) are reasonable and level-headed. Some professors, like there are some in every profession, are nutcases.

I really don't find this situation that crazy to grasp. American Eagle put out probably an innocent ad but contained a clear potential for misinterpretation that the ad creators should have caught (unless they decided that outrage was a good thing to get people discussing their ad). Dumb by them and they should have known better. Then, a small percentage of viewers identified the cringe-worthy "joke" and got overly outraged. Dumb by them as well.
Should’ve caught what… That people are idiots and they should cater to them? Would prefer not to.
 
American Eagle put out probably an innocent ad but contained a clear potential for misinterpretation that the ad creators should have caught (unless they decided that outrage was a good thing to get people discussing their ad). Dumb by them and they should have known better.
This shouldn't be considered "dumb by them". They came up with a clever play on words and likely had no intent for it to be nazi propaganda. Because some people are reaching for a negative connotation should be on those people. Not the creator with zero intent for the outrage overstep.

Either way it's probably good for business because it now gets talked about so those ad people will consider it successful.
 
American Eagle put out probably an innocent ad but contained a clear potential for misinterpretation that the ad creators should have caught (unless they decided that outrage was a good thing to get people discussing their ad). Dumb by them and they should have known better.
This shouldn't be considered "dumb by them". They came up with a clever play on words and likely had no intent for it to be nazi propaganda. Because some people are reaching for a negative connotation should be on those people. Not the creator with zero intent for the outrage overstep.
You really believe that? Again, I watched it for the first time looking for the issue, but I thought it was blatantly obvious. Again, to be clear, not worth being outraged about but it was still pretty ****ing dumb even if the joke was innocently clever.
 
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Speaking as one of these "children" that are allegedly being looked after all the time, we'd rather you worry about yourselves and focus on you, your actions and what you can control. We're fine. We don't need your "help" or "protection".

There is always someone to be offended. I don't know where this discomfort in disagreement came from, but its pervasive. Grown adults can't handle being in disagreement with each other. They feel the need to shame others into their position. My dad claims these are the same people who grew up with participation trophies and have been told that all opinions are equally valid and deserve respect/consideration. Fortunately, that wasn't taught in my house. Rather, we were taught to be our own person. We were taught to do our best and learn in our failures and have enough self esteem to acknowledge wrong and work to fix it moving forward.

Anyone ever wonder why some aren't impacted by "cancel culture"? Think about Eminem, the South Park dudes, etc. They aren't impacted because they don't give a crap and don't buy into the nonsense. They don't care what people think of them. They act/speak as they feel and that's good enough for them. They don't care if they are on an island. "Cancel culture" only works if we buy into it.
OK, Sparky. Cancel culture isn't just about how you feel. It has been about people's livelihoods. If it was just online TikToks that made people mad, that would be one thing, but people had their lives effected in real and tangible ways by cancel culture up to losing opportunities and even jobs over something stupid they said decades before. South Park & Eminem have always made a living through being shocking, over the top people so of course it didn't effect them as much.

And I'm glad you are level-headed and strong willed enough to handle these things, but there are a whole lot of people that didn't grow up with your father in their ear and are stumbling through life and very susceptible to indoctrination. A bad professor can corrupt a lot of kids' minds.

Also, pretty hilarious that you seem to think you can speak for an entire generation.
 
American Eagle put out probably an innocent ad but contained a clear potential for misinterpretation that the ad creators should have caught (unless they decided that outrage was a good thing to get people discussing their ad). Dumb by them and they should have known better.
This shouldn't be considered "dumb by them". They came up with a clever play on words and likely had no intent for it to be nazi propaganda. Because some people are reaching for a negative connotation should be on those people. Not the creator with zero intent for the outrage overstep.
You really believe that? Again, I watched it for the first time looking for the issue, but I thought it was blatantly obvious. Again, to be clear, not worth being outraged about but it was still pretty ****ing dumb even if the joke was innocently clever.
I saw nothing wrong with it and think the leap to outrage is pretty huge. I watched it for the first time knowing what the outrage was about and thought it wasn't even close to anything outrage worthy. I can see the leap and unfortunately not surprised someone went with that angle but think it's a non-issue.
 
Didn’t even know this was a thing. I am on zero of the big social media platforms, and I’m glad I don’t have to even see any of this crap
 
This is just another example of how we are living in an age of nihilism.

Beauty is a subjective construct. If you identify something traditionally thought of as beautiful AS beautiful then you're among the unenlightened and therefore barbaric.
 

Have some people lost their minds? Seriously?

I get that some are simply jealous of a woman many find very attractive, but the dialogue some are using on this is just insanity. And it's not just some loons on Twitter/X saying it. Actual national news channels are covering it.

At what point do we all realize that there is going to be backlash about ANYTHING and that we should not feed it or feed off of it?
 
American Eagle put out probably an innocent ad but contained a clear potential for misinterpretation that the ad creators should have caught (unless they decided that outrage was a good thing to get people discussing their ad). Dumb by them and they should have known better.
This shouldn't be considered "dumb by them". They came up with a clever play on words and likely had no intent for it to be nazi propaganda. Because some people are reaching for a negative connotation should be on those people. Not the creator with zero intent for the outrage overstep.
You really believe that? Again, I watched it for the first time looking for the issue, but I thought it was blatantly obvious. Again, to be clear, not worth being outraged about but it was still pretty ****ing dumb even if the joke was innocently clever.
You thought it was blatantly obvious this ad would have nazi undertones?
 
Speaking as one of these "children" that are allegedly being looked after all the time, we'd rather you worry about yourselves and focus on you, your actions and what you can control. We're fine. We don't need your "help" or "protection".

There is always someone to be offended. I don't know where this discomfort in disagreement came from, but its pervasive. Grown adults can't handle being in disagreement with each other. They feel the need to shame others into their position. My dad claims these are the same people who grew up with participation trophies and have been told that all opinions are equally valid and deserve respect/consideration. Fortunately, that wasn't taught in my house. Rather, we were taught to be our own person. We were taught to do our best and learn in our failures and have enough self esteem to acknowledge wrong and work to fix it moving forward.

Anyone ever wonder why some aren't impacted by "cancel culture"? Think about Eminem, the South Park dudes, etc. They aren't impacted because they don't give a crap and don't buy into the nonsense. They don't care what people think of them. They act/speak as they feel and that's good enough for them. They don't care if they are on an island. "Cancel culture" only works if we buy into it.

If I had FU money I wouldn't care about cancel culture either.
 
News outlets reporting things like "people on social media are saying..." are ones that I'm probably not all that interested in hearing from. First, I'm guessing like half of these "people" online are bots generating comments. Second, people complaining on social media shouldn't be seen as newsworthy. If someone wants to do an actual scientific poll about how people feel about this ad campaign, then maybe I'll have some interest in discussing whether or not it is racist. As it stands now, I find it hard to believe this is a significantly widespread complaint. I think I'd have a hard time finding anyone IRL that cares about this at all.

I too don't like the reporting where it's "people on social media are saying" and they prove their point posting one tweet from an account wtih 8 followers.

This is not that.

This is ABC News and Good Morning America.


My point was that is it started out as an article that with a tweet(or tik-tok video in this case) and 8 followers, then people see that article and post it on their feeds because they couldnt imagine how other people are outraged by this.

Then it keeps getting shared that way, organically at first on social media, forums, and the story eventually gets so big that major news sites picks it up like ABC news.

The news sites like ABC only cover stories that people want to hear, they are not in the news business they are in the entertainment business and when a story blows up then they also want to get in on the action.
 

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