The Apple iPhone Thread (1 Viewer)

[Lehigh98]

Edit to add: I do LOVE the kickstand feature on the EVO. Very nice.

Though it doesn't tilt, I saw on one of the iP4 videos that the iPhone stands straight up on it's own.

Stands on its side?... AWESOME NEW FEATURE!

 

[goonsquad]

Edit to add: I do LOVE the kickstand feature on the EVO. Very nice.

Though it doesn't tilt, I saw on one of the iP4 videos that the iPhone stands straight up on it's own.

Stands on its side?... AWESOME NEW FEATURE!

WOW!!!!!(yes, this is my new schtick for the thread)

 

[Gianni Verscotchie]

Edit to add: I do LOVE the kickstand feature on the EVO. Very nice.

Though it doesn't tilt, I saw on one of the iP4 videos that the iPhone stands straight up on it's own.

I'm using something like THIS now. Very Happy.

 

[Lehigh98]

What's the mobile hotspot thing the EVO has that the iPhone won't?

Just means I can use as a wifi connection if I'm lugging my laptop or other wifi device with me as well?

 

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Wondering if someone can get me a summary of all the improvements to this phone. The "leak" not withstanding seems like it's a tune up to bring iPhone current and add a cool new screen, camera etc. Is that a fair assessment?

Apple.com

Surprisingly, doesn't tell me any more than what I've read here. Thought there might be an in depth analysis somewhere...guess it's not enough changes to warrant something like that?

Huh? Much faster processor, 4x screen resolution, another camera (on the front), better camera on the back, LED flash, HD video recording, 25% thinner, more battery life, noise cancellation, outer casing integrated with antenna (likely better reception) and of course there's iOS 4. That's not enough changes? Google around a bit, you'll find plenty of in depth analysis.

Just wanna pipe upe here. Commish is good people asking honest questions and not one of the trolls. I sense a little animosity in some replies to him (not necc. this one)... shouldn't be the case. that's all

 

[goonsquad]

What's the mobile hotspot thing the EVO has that the iPhone won't?Just means I can use as a wifi connection if I'm lugging my laptop or other wifi device with me as well?

Correct, as I understand it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is an ability that is available to iPhone 4, but they have somehow locked it from using it with an iPad. Both providers charge extra as well, from what I've seen it's an extra $20/mo. on ATT for the iPhone and $30/mo. on Sprint for EVO.

 

[goonsquad]

Just wanna pipe upe here. Commish is good people asking honest questions and not one of the trolls. I sense a little animosity in some replies to him (not necc. this one)... shouldn't be the case. that's all

Just don't ask him about the USB ports on the iPad. :softball:

 

[Ned]

Edit to add: I do LOVE the kickstand feature on the EVO. Very nice.

Though it doesn't tilt, I saw on one of the iP4 videos that the iPhone stands straight up on it's own.

this is just silly

 

[Lehigh98]

extra $20/mo. on ATT for the iPhone and $30/mo. on Sprint for EVO.

Wow, nevermind. Wasn't that interested and definitely not paying that.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

My take of the iP4:

pros: Screen, better resolution and higher pixel density all while not draining the battery (which was a big problem to predecessors w/ high res screens like the Fuze). IMO it was the #1 draw back to the device in the 3G and 3Gs models and they did a good job upgrading their major weakness

cons: It's still Apple, if their customers have an iPad even though with technology they could easily make the iP4 a hotspot to more easily make the wifi iPad's more versatile they refuse to. There's still a lot of control (too much IMO) over their devices that does not stop at the software level, just something I am not a big fan of.

 

[The Commish]

Just wanna pipe upe here. Commish is good people asking honest questions and not one of the trolls. I sense a little animosity in some replies to him (not necc. this one)... shouldn't be the case. that's all

Just don't ask him about the USB ports on the iPad. :softball:

Jerkies!! The reality is, you two have brought Apple's future front and center in my readings and for that I will say I have to work on just ignoring some of the well known fanboys, but some of this stuff is just plain I can't help myself.

 

[sho nuff]

extra $20/mo. on ATT for the iPhone and $30/mo. on Sprint for EVO.

Wow, nevermind. Wasn't that interested and definitely not paying that.

Not sure about the iPhone but the droid market has an app that will do it for free (I believe sprint wants it disabled on their phone to get people to pay the $30/mo though (at least as far as I have read).

 

[goonsquad]

My take of the iP4:

pros: Screen, better resolution and higher pixel density all while not draining the battery (which was a big problem to predecessors w/ high res screens like the Fuze). IMO it was the #1 draw back to the device in the 3G and 3Gs models and they did a good job upgrading their major weakness

cons: It's still Apple, if their customers have an iPad even though with technology they could easily make the iP4 a hotspot to more easily make the wifi iPad's more versatile they refuse to. There's still a lot of control (too much IMO) over their devices that does not stop at the software level, just something I am not a big fan of.

99% sure this came down from ATT, not Apple. ATT is limiting bandwidth demand on their pipes. They refused to allow iPhone tethering for the past year even though the iPhone had the capability and it was enabled everywhere outside of the U.S. ATT also stands to gain way more than Apple from this. Apple gets at best an one time extra $100-200 with the up-sell from iPad WiFi to 3G. ATT on the other hand gets $20 every month for the lifetime of the device through the extra 3G usage.There are reasons to dislike Apple, but this just isn't one of them, IMO.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Just wanna pipe upe here. Commish is good people asking honest questions and not one of the trolls. I sense a little animosity in some replies to him (not necc. this one)... shouldn't be the case. that's all

Agreed -- he probably has good intentions. Seems like he's constantly bringing up false info in these threads, however. Or maybe not and he's somehow gotten his iPod to have USB ports plug in (connected his blackberry directly to it, specifically), knew someone who paid $300 extra to have his iPad be 3G and had his EVO on an n wireless network.

 

[Walton Goggins]

My take of the iP4:

pros: Screen, better resolution and higher pixel density all while not draining the battery (which was a big problem to predecessors w/ high res screens like the Fuze). IMO it was the #1 draw back to the device in the 3G and 3Gs models and they did a good job upgrading their major weakness

cons: It's still Apple, if their customers have an iPad even though with technology they could easily make the iP4 a hotspot to more easily make the wifi iPad's more versatile they refuse to. There's still a lot of control (too much IMO) over their devices that does not stop at the software level, just something I am not a big fan of.

99% sure this came down from ATT, not Apple. ATT is limiting bandwidth demand on their pipes. They refused to allow iPhone tethering for the past year even though the iPhone had the capability and it was enabled everywhere outside of the U.S. ATT also stands to gain way more than Apple from this. Apple gets at best an one time extra $100-200 with the up-sell from iPad WiFi to 3G. ATT on the other hand gets $20 every month for the lifetime of the device through the extra 3G usage.There are reasons to dislike Apple, but this just isn't one of them, IMO.

Please stop with this, Apple didn't have to choose ATT but they did and knew ATT sucked and the weakest carriers. Curious but if you owned a business say a restaurant and the company that delivers food was less than stellar but you knew this would you then not claim any responsibility if the product was shoddy?

I guess you also applaud ATT for allowing the Iphone to run on their network, right?

 

[Britney Spears]

I have to say, I'm very disappointed with no tethering/hotspot type stuff. : (Otherwise, it looks pretty awesome.

TetheringWith Internet tethering on iPhone, you don’t need a Wi-Fi hotspot to surf the web from your computer. Instead, you can share the 3G connection on your iPhone with your Mac or PC notebook and connect to the Internet anywhere. When your iPhone is tethered, you can still send and receive data and make phone calls.

Tethering is not available in all countries. See your carrier for availability.Do we know that AT&T will support this?

Great question! Who cares about this other crap. Can we do this? I will place my order on day 1 if this is available.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

If I upgrade, when I renew my 2-yr contract, will it be capped data or unlimited?

 

[Native]

extra $20/mo. on ATT for the iPhone and $30/mo. on Sprint for EVO.

Wow, nevermind. Wasn't that interested and definitely not paying that.

Not sure about the iPhone but the droid market has an app that will do it for free (I believe sprint wants it disabled on their phone to get people to pay the $30/mo though (at least as far as I have read).

Android market several free apps that allow free tethering - Easy Tether and PDA Lite are the most popular. Google has said they want free tethering on all their phones. They definitely dont see eye to eye with the carriers on this but it seems like Google is winning out (for the time being)

 

[[icon]]

My take of the iP4:

pros: Screen, better resolution and higher pixel density all while not draining the battery (which was a big problem to predecessors w/ high res screens like the Fuze). IMO it was the #1 draw back to the device in the 3G and 3Gs models and they did a good job upgrading their major weakness

cons: It's still Apple, if their customers have an iPad even though with technology they could easily make the iP4 a hotspot to more easily make the wifi iPad's more versatile they refuse to. There's still a lot of control (too much IMO) over their devices that does not stop at the software level, just something I am not a big fan of.

99% sure this came down from ATT, not Apple. ATT is limiting bandwidth demand on their pipes. They refused to allow iPhone tethering for the past year even though the iPhone had the capability and it was enabled everywhere outside of the U.S. ATT also stands to gain way more than Apple from this. Apple gets at best an one time extra $100-200 with the up-sell from iPad WiFi to 3G. ATT on the other hand gets $20 every month for the lifetime of the device through the extra 3G usage.There are reasons to dislike Apple, but this just isn't one of them, IMO.

Please stop with this, Apple didn't have to choose ATT but they did and knew ATT sucked and the weakest carriers. Curious but if you owned a business say a restaurant and the company that delivers food was less than stellar but you knew this would you then not claim any responsibility if the product was shoddy?

I guess you also applaud ATT for allowing the Iphone to run on their network, right?

ATT > Sprint in most of the country. HTH

 

[SomeGuyNamedDavid]

extra $20/mo. on ATT for the iPhone and $30/mo. on Sprint for EVO.

Wow, nevermind. Wasn't that interested and definitely not paying that.

Not sure about the iPhone but the droid market has an app that will do it for free (I believe sprint wants it disabled on their phone to get people to pay the $30/mo though (at least as far as I have read).

Android market several free apps that allow free tethering - Easy Tether and PDA Lite are the most popular. Google has said they want free tethering on all their phones. They definitely dont see eye to eye with the carriers on this but it seems like Google is winning out (for the time being)

I don't understand why you should have to pay more for tethering. Aren't you already paying for the data package?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

My take of the iP4:

pros: Screen, better resolution and higher pixel density all while not draining the battery (which was a big problem to predecessors w/ high res screens like the Fuze). IMO it was the #1 draw back to the device in the 3G and 3Gs models and they did a good job upgrading their major weakness

cons: It's still Apple, if their customers have an iPad even though with technology they could easily make the iP4 a hotspot to more easily make the wifi iPad's more versatile they refuse to. There's still a lot of control (too much IMO) over their devices that does not stop at the software level, just something I am not a big fan of.

99% sure this came down from ATT, not Apple. ATT is limiting bandwidth demand on their pipes. They refused to allow iPhone tethering for the past year even though the iPhone had the capability and it was enabled everywhere outside of the U.S. ATT also stands to gain way more than Apple from this. Apple gets at best an one time extra $100-200 with the up-sell from iPad WiFi to 3G. ATT on the other hand gets $20 every month for the lifetime of the device through the extra 3G usage.There are reasons to dislike Apple, but this just isn't one of them, IMO.

Out of curiosity does a jailbroken iPad allow tethering via bluetooth?I hear what you are saying, I still don't like it when technology is handicapped so that big business can charge more money for something that should be free. By free, I mean within the constraints of the bandwidth that people are already paying for. They just recently scaled back from 'unlimited' to 2GB w/ the iPad which I think is fine since nobody was under contract (it was month-to-month). When big business makes us triple pay for the same type of service: internet at home, internet on our phones, and now internet on our portable coffee table devices (iPad then I get pissed off at their greed, particularly when 2 out of the 3 share the same distribution network.

 

[sho nuff]

My take of the iP4:

pros: Screen, better resolution and higher pixel density all while not draining the battery (which was a big problem to predecessors w/ high res screens like the Fuze). IMO it was the #1 draw back to the device in the 3G and 3Gs models and they did a good job upgrading their major weakness

cons: It's still Apple, if their customers have an iPad even though with technology they could easily make the iP4 a hotspot to more easily make the wifi iPad's more versatile they refuse to. There's still a lot of control (too much IMO) over their devices that does not stop at the software level, just something I am not a big fan of.

99% sure this came down from ATT, not Apple. ATT is limiting bandwidth demand on their pipes. They refused to allow iPhone tethering for the past year even though the iPhone had the capability and it was enabled everywhere outside of the U.S. ATT also stands to gain way more than Apple from this. Apple gets at best an one time extra $100-200 with the up-sell from iPad WiFi to 3G. ATT on the other hand gets $20 every month for the lifetime of the device through the extra 3G usage.There are reasons to dislike Apple, but this just isn't one of them, IMO.

Please stop with this, Apple didn't have to choose ATT but they did and knew ATT sucked and the weakest carriers. Curious but if you owned a business say a restaurant and the company that delivers food was less than stellar but you knew this would you then not claim any responsibility if the product was shoddy?

I guess you also applaud ATT for allowing the Iphone to run on their network, right?

ATT > Sprint in most of the country. HTH

Says who?Many ratings I have seen has Sprint right behind Verizon.

 

[One]

Edit to add: I do LOVE the kickstand feature on the EVO. Very nice.

Though it doesn't tilt, I saw on one of the iP4 videos that the iPhone stands straight up on it's own.

this is just silly

I have a keen eye for unnanounced game-changing features. 00:51

 

[[icon]]

ATT > Sprint in most of the country. HTH

Says who?Many ratings I have seen has Sprint right behind Verizon.

Ratings are consistently 1) VErizon 2) Att 3) Sprint 4) TMobile across all reviews (CNet, TopTenReviews.com, Consumer Reports)

 

[goonsquad]

Out of curiosity does a jailbroken iPad allow tethering via bluetooth?I hear what you are saying, I still don't like it when technology is handicapped so that big business can charge more money for something that should be free. By free, I mean within the constraints of the bandwidth that people are already paying for. They just recently scaled back from 'unlimited' to 2GB w/ the iPad which I think is fine since nobody was under contract (it was month-to-month). When big business makes us triple pay for the same type of service: internet at home, internet on our phones, and now internet on our portable coffee table devices (iPad then I get pissed off at their greed, particularly when 2 out of the 3 share the same distribution network.

Yes I'm fairly certain you can tether via jail breaking. And I understand your concerns, just saying that blame goes to ATT for this one.

 

[LokiKx]

Wondering if someone can get me a summary of all the improvements to this phone. The "leak" not withstanding seems like it's a tune up to bring iPhone current and add a cool new screen, camera etc. Is that a fair assessment?

Video call your mum: You make a phone call, push a button that says FaceTime and suddenly it turns into a video call (only with WiFi). So your folks can see your pretty face (not to be used on Saturday night).There’s a better camera: The iPhone 4 has a 5-megapixel camera with a built-in LED flash. Plus, it has a 5x zoom and a ‘tap to focus’ feature, allowing you to pick the portion of the scene you want in focus.A second camera: There’s a second camera on the front of the phone, meaning you can easily snap a self-portrait in front of Big Ben.A better video camera: The iPhone 4 shoots in high definition at 30 frames per second, the same as most camcorders, and at 720p, it should still look good on your wide-screen TV. You can edit your vid on the phone with iMovie.It’s tougher: "Chemically strengthened" glass on both sides is said to be more durable and a stainless steel frame should make it less smash-able. We know you love to send your phone skidding across the pub floor.Built-in reader: Download iBooks for free. Unlike previous apps for books, this is supposed to support PDFs. No more swapping books with scary stains on them in hostels.Easy e-mail: The iPhone 4 allows you to view a single inbox that combines as many separate accounts as necessary.

Is this a fair summary?

That covers your bases not including all the software updates associated with iOS4 (multitasking, etc)You're also not mentioning the Gyroscopic 3D sensor that improves greatly upon the traditional accelerometer (that Evo doesn't have). Also there's the dual noise-canceling microphones on the base of the phone (which I don't believe the evo has), and the greatly improved construction materials (hardened durable glass front and back and reduced size) that the EVO doesn't have.

I've been looking for the specs on this "multitasking" feature. What's been done? Also, any huge steps on the OS side or just small mods? The inner workings are more interesting to me than the other stuff.

Think thread or pipeline based versus full multi-tasking. It is very similar to the deep dive MS showed everyone for the new OS they are putting out.

 

[goonsquad]

Please stop with this, Apple didn't have to choose ATT but they did and knew ATT sucked and the weakest carriers. Curious but if you owned a business say a restaurant and the company that delivers food was less than stellar but you knew this would you then not claim any responsibility if the product was shoddy?

I guess you also applaud ATT for allowing the Iphone to run on their network, right?

I do applaud ATT for seeing the potential of the iPhone and making the concessions they did to win the business. Apple offered the iPhone to Verizon first, but Verizon refused to give up the control over the device/OS to Apple. ATT invested millions in reworking their back end to support Apple's visual voicemail and allowed Apple to keep complete control over the OS. This was before the iPhone was the huge success it is, most experts didn't think could compete in the mobile arena.

 

[LokiKx]

WiFi: EVO only supports 802.11b/g while iPhone supports 802.11b/g/n, allowing for much faster WiFi speeds (up to 600Mbps vs. 54Mbps). Huge Advantage iPhone 4.

Last I recall the N was not yet a set standard.

Not sure what you mean? My home wireless router is N capable so will work for me I think?

N is still in draft but all draft N devices are supposed to work with the final version of N.

 

[LokiKx]

WiFi: EVO only supports 802.11b/g while iPhone supports 802.11b/g/n, allowing for much faster WiFi speeds (up to 600Mbps vs. 54Mbps). Huge Advantage iPhone 4.

Can you expound on this a bit? It would be a 15 minute mod in code to get "n" added to the android platform if the need was there. What you are saying above would be similar to a hater pointing out that EVO is equipped to run on "4G" out of the box but iPhone isn't. It would be a slight mod in both cases to gain that capability. Throw in the prevalence of "n" networks, and I don't see how you are getting here. What am I missing?

You'd notice a big difference for stuff like uploading videos to YouTube. The addition of n speed wireless is not software based. The Evo simply doesn't have it.

Assumed the radios were equipped like HTC said they were Is that not the case?

It does have a Broadcom BCM4329. Remember who your talking to here.

 

[Dr. Doofenshmirtz]

Does anyone have problems holding a wifi signal? I will be sitting in my house in the same spot and poof all of the sudden my signal is gone.

Hoping it is only a problem on original iphone and 4 is better for me since I plan on getting slingbox.

90% sure I will be upgrading

 

[goonsquad]

WiFi: EVO only supports 802.11b/g while iPhone supports 802.11b/g/n, allowing for much faster WiFi speeds (up to 600Mbps vs. 54Mbps). Huge Advantage iPhone 4.

Last I recall the N was not yet a set standard.

Not sure what you mean? My home wireless router is N capable so will work for me I think?

N is still in draft but all draft N devices are supposed to work with the final version of N.

N is no longer in draft, it was finalized and approved in October 2009. It is technically considered an approved "Amendment" to the 801.11-2007 standard which rolled together the 802.11a, b, d, e, g, h, i, j amendments.

802.11n

Main article: IEEE 802.11n-2009

802.11n is a recent amendment which improves upon the previous 802.11 standards by adding multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) and many other newer features. The IEEE has approved the amendment and it was published in October 2009.[9][10] Prior to the final ratification, enterprises were already migrating to 802.11n networks based on the Wi-Fi Alliance's certification of products conforming to a 2007 draft of the 802.11n proposal.

 

[NYG Endzone]

extra $20/mo. on ATT for the iPhone and $30/mo. on Sprint for EVO.

Wow, nevermind. Wasn't that interested and definitely not paying that.

Not sure about the iPhone but the droid market has an app that will do it for free (I believe sprint wants it disabled on their phone to get people to pay the $30/mo though (at least as far as I have read).

Android market several free apps that allow free tethering - Easy Tether and PDA Lite are the most popular. Google has said they want free tethering on all their phones. They definitely dont see eye to eye with the carriers on this but it seems like Google is winning out (for the time being)

I don't understand why you should have to pay more for tethering. Aren't you already paying for the data package?

Bandwidth isn't unlimited in a cost sense for ATT. People take advantage of the system and download GB of data from their laptops. Degrading performance and making everyone else suffer. In the past that was subsidized by everyone paying $30/mo when it actually should have cost only $10-15/mo for 98% of customers. Wireless providers need to get the ball rolling on QoS so that the people not gaming the system can get their data packets processed before the "unlimited" hoarders.

 

[NYG Endzone]

Does anyone have problems holding a wifi signal? I will be sitting in my house in the same spot and poof all of the sudden my signal is gone. Hoping it is only a problem on original iphone and 4 is better for me since I plan on getting slingbox. 90% sure I will be upgrading

Change your WiFi's router channel to 1 or 11. If your not moving around, its probably interference (microwave oven, cordless phones, etc...)

 

[Dr. Doofenshmirtz]

Does anyone have problems holding a wifi signal? I will be sitting in my house in the same spot and poof all of the sudden my signal is gone. Hoping it is only a problem on original iphone and 4 is better for me since I plan on getting slingbox. 90% sure I will be upgrading

Change your WiFi's router channel to 1 or 11. If your not moving around, its probably interference (microwave oven, cordless phones, etc...)

No idea how to do this but will try it when I get home. Thanks

 

[sho nuff]

ATT > Sprint in most of the country. HTH

Says who?Many ratings I have seen has Sprint right behind Verizon.

Ratings are consistently 1) VErizon 2) Att 3) Sprint 4) TMobile across all reviews (CNet, TopTenReviews.com, Consumer Reports)

In coverage? Or in overall? Overall...I could agree...Sprint has had some bad customer service and that is one of the things they are behind ATT in on toptenreviews.com...and in selection of phones...the Evo could change that a bit and drive them closer, but the iPhone4 should easily equal out any bump the Evo might give Sprint).But I have yet to see someone rank coverage of ATT better than Sprint on those sites or others.

 

[hxperson]

What's the mobile hotspot thing the EVO has that the iPhone won't?Just means I can use as a wifi connection if I'm lugging my laptop or other wifi device with me as well?

Correct, as I understand it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is an ability that is available to iPhone 4, but they have somehow locked it from using it with an iPad. Both providers charge extra as well, from what I've seen it's an extra $20/mo. on ATT for the iPhone and $30/mo. on Sprint for EVO.

I can confirm that you can tether with the iPhone and that the feature is not locked by Apple (I'm in Canada). I do this often and you can tether via bluetooth as well as USB, which is pretty handy. I think its also worth adding though that pretty much every decent 3G smartphone in the market can tether.Can the iPhone 4 hotspot though? this is very different from tethering - as you can only connect 1 device when tethering. The Evo can act as a router for 10 devices.

 

[Disco Stu]

I can barely edit video on a machine with 24 inch monitor and a precision mouse - I'm sure I would love to do this on a 3.5 inch screen and the not so pretty fat finger I have. I suppose if you are in a hurry it would be a nice to have but I can see it having limited practicality.

This isn't intended to be used for high end editing. This is for quick editing for YouTube type clips. For serious editing you're still going to want to use a workstation/MacBookPro. That said.. I can imagine tons of scenarios where some basic video editing on the fly would be awesome to have.

:jaa:

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

What's the date of the new OS?

 

[hxperson]

ATT > Sprint in most of the country.

HTH

Says who?Many ratings I have seen has Sprint right behind Verizon.

Ratings are consistently 1) VErizon 2) Att 3) Sprint 4) TMobile across all reviews (CNet, TopTenReviews.com, Consumer Reports)

In coverage? Or in overall? Overall...I could agree...Sprint has had some bad customer service and that is one of the things they are behind ATT in on toptenreviews.com...and in selection of phones...the Evo could change that a bit and drive them closer, but the iPhone4 should easily equal out any bump the Evo might give Sprint).But I have yet to see someone rank coverage of ATT better than Sprint on those sites or others.

CNN article on sprint in Feb

 

[Disco Stu]

Guess I don't spend enough every month. Bought the 3GS 6/22/09 (first time ATT customer) and "may qualify on 11/23/2010".

Though I'm not sure I would have paid the $200 anyway...

 

[The Commish]

Just wanna pipe upe here. Commish is good people asking honest questions and not one of the trolls. I sense a little animosity in some replies to him (not necc. this one)... shouldn't be the case. that's all

Agreed -- he probably has good intentions. Seems like he's constantly bringing up false info in these threads, however. Or maybe not and he's somehow gotten his iPod to have USB ports plug in (connected his blackberry directly to it, specifically), knew someone who paid $300 extra to have his iPad be 3G and had his EVO on an n wireless network.

This from the guy who suggests pause = multitask. Like I said in the other thread. Make fun of me all you want. You are CLEARLY on top of things. If you'd take 5 seconds to get over yourself, you'd see posts where I correct myself shortly after making the comment just like I did in this thread. I get that willful ignorance makes it easier to at someone but I don't know what you get out of it. Kinda sad really.

 

[The Commish]

Think thread or pipeline based versus full multi-tasking. It is very similar to the deep dive MS showed everyone for the new OS they are putting out.

It's funny that you mention this because all my queries keep pointing back to the MS example also. Make sense. I think it's a smart way to go.

 

[The Commish]

WiFi: EVO only supports 802.11b/g while iPhone supports 802.11b/g/n, allowing for much faster WiFi speeds (up to 600Mbps vs. 54Mbps). Huge Advantage iPhone 4.

Can you expound on this a bit? It would be a 15 minute mod in code to get "n" added to the android platform if the need was there. What you are saying above would be similar to a hater pointing out that EVO is equipped to run on "4G" out of the box but iPhone isn't. It would be a slight mod in both cases to gain that capability. Throw in the prevalence of "n" networks, and I don't see how you are getting here. What am I missing?

You'd notice a big difference for stuff like uploading videos to YouTube. The addition of n speed wireless is not software based. The Evo simply doesn't have it.

Assumed the radios were equipped like HTC said they were Is that not the case?

It does have a Broadcom BCM4329. Remember who your talking to here.

{icon]'s good people too. I cleared this up shortly after the posts...I was thinking of the incredible. Do the incredible and evo have the same radio?

 

[LokiKx]

{icon]'s good people too. I cleared this up shortly after the posts...I was thinking of the incredible. Do the incredible and evo have the same radio?

Not sure. I have not seen a tear down of the incredible so am unsure what chips it uses.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Guess I don't spend enough every month. Bought the 3GS 6/22/09 (first time ATT customer) and "may qualify on 11/23/2010".

Though I'm not sure I would have paid the $200 anyway...

That's odd, I just checked and I qualify, my contract end date is: 6/19/11 (I bought it 3 days before you?)My monthly bill has been about $108 a month

my plan:

$39.99 Nation 450 Rollover & 5000 Night/Weekend & Unlimited Mobile-To-Mobile Minutes

$30.00 Data Plan

$20.00 Msg Unlimited (text messages)

 

[Disco Stu]

Guess I don't spend enough every month. Bought the 3GS 6/22/09 (first time ATT customer) and "may qualify on 11/23/2010".

Though I'm not sure I would have paid the $200 anyway...

That's odd, I just checked and I qualify, my contract end date is: 6/19/11 (I bought it 3 days before you?)My monthly bill has been about $108 a month

my plan:

$39.99 Nation 450 Rollover & 5000 Night/Weekend & Unlimited Mobile-To-Mobile Minutes

$30.00 Data Plan

$20.00 Msg Unlimited (text messages)

I have 1500 texts instead of unlimited. So $5 less there, plus I get a $12 discount through work. Bill ends up being under $80 a month.

 

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In coverage? Or in overall? Overall...I could agree...Sprint has had some bad customer service and that is one of the things they are behind ATT in on toptenreviews.com...and in selection of phones...the Evo could change that a bit and drive them closer, but the iPhone4 should easily equal out any bump the Evo might give Sprint).

But I have yet to see someone rank coverage of ATT better than Sprint on those sites or others.

CNN article on sprint in Feb

I used to write Press Releases for a living. The spin is clear as day in this one.

According to recent third-party studies, Sprint's (S, Fortune 500) network quality is improving faster than its competitors, its 3G network is the most reliable and it has the best 3G signal strength in the nation's major metropolitan areas. Sprint is also the only wireless provider that has an up-and-running 4G network, and its rates are mostly favorable to its biggest rivals, Verizon Wireless (VZ, Fortune 500) and AT&T (T, Fortune 500).

"Improving faster than competitors" = still haven't caught up to competition but making strides

"Best signal in major metro areas" = No mention of outside major cities, where most of the criticism lies.

Their 4G network isn't true 4G.

Point is... if you live in a major city and rarely travel then Sprint has great coverage. IF you live on the outskirts or travel outside major metro areas, then Sprint sucks. AT&T May have trouble with capacity due to data useage from the iPhone, but they've got "more bars in more places" than Sprint.

 

[SomeGuyNamedDavid]

So does iPhone 4 have speech to text like Android?

 

[Gianni Verscotchie]

So does iPhone 4 have speech to text like Android?

Doesn't the 3GS do this?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

So does iPhone 4 have speech to text like Android?

How well does that work? Can you read your voicemails?I know the iPhone has Google Voice, I'm not sure what technology Android uses, but I would assume it would be the same: Google.