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Osaurus
Footballguy
For all the Verizon Fios folks there is a Verizon app so you can use your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch as the cable box remote. It works with one of the widgets I didn't know existed until today. You can also show pics from your device on your TV. It is free and easy to set up. Enjoy.
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
About to do it. Any reason not to for iPhone 4? I havent DLd the new iTunes in a while because my computer is 4 years old and already slow. Should I?
Wild Young Billy
A Crazy Cat
I DL the new OS last night on my iPhone 4, no probs today. I also have an old PC and iTunes is OK but still takes a long time to load.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
What's the point? It seems like it's mostly for the iPad...
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
For the four different fonts for Notes!!!!!! Oh, and to print.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
LOVE the ability to search webpages in safari.
About damn time.
About damn time.
Britney Spears
guest speaker
You IN GB?
beer 30
Footballguy
Soon, tomorrow or Thursday.[oldman]I'll be needing some assistance[/oldman]
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Just got the iphone 4 for 31 bucks.
I traded in my old iphone 3g and got 161 dollar credit.
Trying it out now. Seems pretty cool so far.
I traded in my old iphone 3g and got 161 dollar credit.
Trying it out now. Seems pretty cool so far.
Otis
Footballguy
A must app. There's also a DVR Manager app for FiOS, which is awesome for recording programs when you're not home and forget to set it, viewing what you have recorded, etc.
HellToupee
Footballguy
how , where?
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I sold my 3Gs for $365 and bought the 4 for $200. You're doing it wrong.
ren hoek
Footballguy
He didn't lose out on much more than $50-$90 bucks if you factor in the cost of shipping on an ebay transaction.I sold my 3g for $250, and that's a pretty good pull for an iphone from Dec. 2008. The market value for the 3GS is right around $350-$400, so what you made sounds about right.In other words, your 3GS was worth about $165 more than his 3G anyway.
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culdeus
Footballguy
3GS are worth than 4G more because they can be unlocked to work on T-Mobile, mainly. Once someone figures out how to unlock 4G the resale value of 3G/GS will plummet to the same as itouch of same generation.
AcerFC
Footballguy
brought it to the apple store and they gave me a brand new one.
beer 30
Footballguy
Cool deal by Apple. I just figured out how to zoom mine today. . .babysteps.Love this thing so far, was driving home yesterday and needed gas, in the time it took to get between two stop lights I downloaded Gasbuddy app and found the lowest price in town to fill up.If it came with a jet pack I'd marry it.
the moops
Footballguy
Can anyone give me a quick breakdown of the family plan?
I have a 3GS, and am thinking about upgrading to the 4 and giving my phone to my lady.
I currently pay like 80 bucks a month for my service and data plan. How much more we talking to add the other line? I looked on AT&T's website, but damn it is difficult to figure things out over there.
I have a 3GS, and am thinking about upgrading to the 4 and giving my phone to my lady.
I currently pay like 80 bucks a month for my service and data plan. How much more we talking to add the other line? I looked on AT&T's website, but damn it is difficult to figure things out over there.
culdeus
Footballguy
Depends on if you updated the os or not. There's a thread on jailbreaking here too.
Gianni Verscotchie
Footballguy
Wife and I have an iphone 4 and 3GS on family plan. Total bill is $197/month, including tax. I think we have the shared 1400 minute plan. Keep in mind that you get unlimited calling to any ATT mobile plus unlimited calling to your 'top 10' A-list (any numbers you choose).The only calls that cost you are to landlines and other cell carrier.We've never gone over 400 minutes combined and have a gazillion rollover minutes stockpiled.The 700 minute plan does not allow for an "A-list". On that plan, we would go over the alloted minutes.
the moops
Footballguy
####.More than twice as much for the family plan?Is there a bare bones plan that anyone is aware of? Neither one of us talk on the phone all that much. I use tons of data and text messages though.
Gianni Verscotchie
Footballguy
The iphone data plan surcharge is like $30 for each iphone and really adds to the cost.
Osaurus
Footballguy
It's not very hard to do at all. The jailbreak for 4.1 was available through Safari which I liked very much. The only trick for me (and lots of others) is waiting to upgrade until the new jailbreak is released. There are tons of YT videos and many on jailbreak sites to walk you through it.![[icon]](/data/avatars/m/5/5167.jpg?1660313464){kind=avatar}
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Insoxicated
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02...d_mobileme.html
Apple to expand reach with new smaller iPhone, enhanced MobileMe
By Daniel Eran Dilger
Published: 06:00 PM EST
After bringing its iPhone 4 to Verizon Wireless, Apple will release iPhone 5 alongside a smaller, cheaper phone this summer, bundled with enhanced MobileMe services.
According to a report by the Wall Street Journal, Apple is planning to expand its phone offerings to "accelerate sales of its smartphones amid growing competition."
The report cited a person who claimed to have seen a prototype device late last fall, describing it as "about half the size of iPhone 4." The new model, harmonizing with a recent report by Bloomberg, is said to be aimed at delivering a low cost phone that costs "about half the price" of today's iPhone 4.
Carriers currently buy iPhone 4 at around $625 and then most offer it to their subscribers starting at $199, with the balance of the cost subsidized against a two year contract. Carriers in some countries sell the device closer to its actual price or unlocked at full price.
The new smaller iPhone is expected to priced cheap enough to be offered by carriers for free with a smaller subsidy, or in the ballpark of $300 unlocked. Rather than being a dumbed down "feature phone," the smaller iPhone is said to simply be "significantly lighter," with a smaller edge-to-edge touch screen.
The new model is also said to offer "voice navigation," without elaborating. This could reference the incorporation of the Siri voice-navigated personal assistance service Apple acquired last year, a likely inclusion in this year's iOS 5.0 release.
Apart from using a smaller screen, it's not clear how Apple could shave off much size and weight off the phone itself without using a smaller battery, which takes up most of the space within the current design of iPhone 4.
This all happened before
Apple pursued a similar strategy after establishing iPod as the dominant high end music player. In 2004, the company released a 4GB Microdrive-based iPod mini aimed at cheaper flash RAM MP3 players; it offered half the capacity of the smallest iPod and was lighter, thinner, cheaper and offered in a series of colors.
Along with the flash-based iPod nano that replaced it two years later, the iPod mini helped Apple to aggressively take over the majority of the MP3 market outside of the more profitable, high end hard drive segment.
Delivering a smaller, cheaper iPhone model would similarly enable Apple to directly take on the larger but less profitable market for lower end phones now being dominated by licensees of Google's Android in the US and China, and Nokia's Symbian and S40 platforms around the world.
Google targeted the low end of the market in an effort to create a large installed base to support its advertising business model. Its licensees have been unable to match the overall profitability of the iPhone, with all of their high end models combined selling in far smaller volume than Apple's iPhone.
Nokia already owns the vast majority of the mobile market, and its share of smartphones is largely made up of simple button phones. It too has both been unable to raise its earnings per phone or to deliver high end phones with the appeal and popularity of iPhone.
The company reports that Microsoft, which it said will be paying it "billions" to help launch new Windows Phone 7 models, is "less-focused" on the "substantial portions" representing the rest of its business, which includes "lower-end handsets aimed at emerging markets, such as India."
iPhone 5
The same source who described Apple's plans for a smaller iPhone said the company's flagship iPhone 4 would also be updated in parallel, without offering specifics. It is expected that iPhone 5 will ship in CDMA and GSM versions, despite being built around a world-mode Qualcomm chip similar or identical to the new CDMA iPhone 4 now being sold by Verizon.
That chip also supports HSPA+ with download speeds of up to 14.4Mpbs, twice as fast as the existing GSM/UMTS iPhone 4. AT&T and other GSM carriers worldwide are already running or in the process of upgrading their existing UMTS networks to support HSPA+, a technology AT&T now refers to as 4G, making it all but certain that AT&T will market iPhone 5 as being a 4G phone.
It has previously been reported that iPhone 5 would also use a new version of Apple's A4 chip, upgraded to incorporate the new generation of dual core Cortex-A9 ARM CPUs and Imagination's dual core SGX543 graphics processor, all running at a slightly faster 1.2GHz.
That same chip is likely to be used across all of Apple's new iOS devices, including iPad 2 later this quarter, and a new iPod touch and possibly Apple TV later this fall. It is likely Apple would also use the new chip in its smaller iPhone, to take advantage of economies of scale to drive the production price down. iPad 2 is also reportedly using faster RAM, something that may also make it into the design of iPhone 5.
MobileMe revamp
The report also noted new efforts by Apple to improve its MobileMe offerings for iPhone users, saying that "Apple is considering making MobileMe a free service that would serve as a 'locker' for personal memorabilia such as photos, music and videos, eliminating the need for devices to carry a lot of memory."
This correlates with an earlier report that indicated Apple would be incorporating a new Photo Stream feature in iOS 4.3, designed to automatically push photos and potentially movies to Apple's cloud servers.
The new service is also expected to incorporate the iTunes cloud services Apple has been working on for years, designed to enable users to access their purchased media over the network as a streaming service.
Both such efforts would minimize the storage required on the phone, enabling Apple to differentiate high end, 16 to 32GB iPhone models from a low cost, smaller iPhone sibling. Reports of a smaller iPhone have been circulating since at least 2008, when a model offering a 2.8 inch screen and weighing about 20 percent less was reported to be in the pipeline.
Instead of offering a smaller version of the iPhone, Apple designed a cheaper version for its second edition 3G model, using a plastic back instead of an aluminum case.
Apple to expand reach with new smaller iPhone, enhanced MobileMe
By Daniel Eran Dilger
Published: 06:00 PM EST
After bringing its iPhone 4 to Verizon Wireless, Apple will release iPhone 5 alongside a smaller, cheaper phone this summer, bundled with enhanced MobileMe services.
According to a report by the Wall Street Journal, Apple is planning to expand its phone offerings to "accelerate sales of its smartphones amid growing competition."
The report cited a person who claimed to have seen a prototype device late last fall, describing it as "about half the size of iPhone 4." The new model, harmonizing with a recent report by Bloomberg, is said to be aimed at delivering a low cost phone that costs "about half the price" of today's iPhone 4.
Carriers currently buy iPhone 4 at around $625 and then most offer it to their subscribers starting at $199, with the balance of the cost subsidized against a two year contract. Carriers in some countries sell the device closer to its actual price or unlocked at full price.
The new smaller iPhone is expected to priced cheap enough to be offered by carriers for free with a smaller subsidy, or in the ballpark of $300 unlocked. Rather than being a dumbed down "feature phone," the smaller iPhone is said to simply be "significantly lighter," with a smaller edge-to-edge touch screen.
The new model is also said to offer "voice navigation," without elaborating. This could reference the incorporation of the Siri voice-navigated personal assistance service Apple acquired last year, a likely inclusion in this year's iOS 5.0 release.
Apart from using a smaller screen, it's not clear how Apple could shave off much size and weight off the phone itself without using a smaller battery, which takes up most of the space within the current design of iPhone 4.
This all happened before
Apple pursued a similar strategy after establishing iPod as the dominant high end music player. In 2004, the company released a 4GB Microdrive-based iPod mini aimed at cheaper flash RAM MP3 players; it offered half the capacity of the smallest iPod and was lighter, thinner, cheaper and offered in a series of colors.
Along with the flash-based iPod nano that replaced it two years later, the iPod mini helped Apple to aggressively take over the majority of the MP3 market outside of the more profitable, high end hard drive segment.
Delivering a smaller, cheaper iPhone model would similarly enable Apple to directly take on the larger but less profitable market for lower end phones now being dominated by licensees of Google's Android in the US and China, and Nokia's Symbian and S40 platforms around the world.
Google targeted the low end of the market in an effort to create a large installed base to support its advertising business model. Its licensees have been unable to match the overall profitability of the iPhone, with all of their high end models combined selling in far smaller volume than Apple's iPhone.
Nokia already owns the vast majority of the mobile market, and its share of smartphones is largely made up of simple button phones. It too has both been unable to raise its earnings per phone or to deliver high end phones with the appeal and popularity of iPhone.
The company reports that Microsoft, which it said will be paying it "billions" to help launch new Windows Phone 7 models, is "less-focused" on the "substantial portions" representing the rest of its business, which includes "lower-end handsets aimed at emerging markets, such as India."
iPhone 5
The same source who described Apple's plans for a smaller iPhone said the company's flagship iPhone 4 would also be updated in parallel, without offering specifics. It is expected that iPhone 5 will ship in CDMA and GSM versions, despite being built around a world-mode Qualcomm chip similar or identical to the new CDMA iPhone 4 now being sold by Verizon.
That chip also supports HSPA+ with download speeds of up to 14.4Mpbs, twice as fast as the existing GSM/UMTS iPhone 4. AT&T and other GSM carriers worldwide are already running or in the process of upgrading their existing UMTS networks to support HSPA+, a technology AT&T now refers to as 4G, making it all but certain that AT&T will market iPhone 5 as being a 4G phone.
It has previously been reported that iPhone 5 would also use a new version of Apple's A4 chip, upgraded to incorporate the new generation of dual core Cortex-A9 ARM CPUs and Imagination's dual core SGX543 graphics processor, all running at a slightly faster 1.2GHz.
That same chip is likely to be used across all of Apple's new iOS devices, including iPad 2 later this quarter, and a new iPod touch and possibly Apple TV later this fall. It is likely Apple would also use the new chip in its smaller iPhone, to take advantage of economies of scale to drive the production price down. iPad 2 is also reportedly using faster RAM, something that may also make it into the design of iPhone 5.
MobileMe revamp
The report also noted new efforts by Apple to improve its MobileMe offerings for iPhone users, saying that "Apple is considering making MobileMe a free service that would serve as a 'locker' for personal memorabilia such as photos, music and videos, eliminating the need for devices to carry a lot of memory."
This correlates with an earlier report that indicated Apple would be incorporating a new Photo Stream feature in iOS 4.3, designed to automatically push photos and potentially movies to Apple's cloud servers.
The new service is also expected to incorporate the iTunes cloud services Apple has been working on for years, designed to enable users to access their purchased media over the network as a streaming service.
Both such efforts would minimize the storage required on the phone, enabling Apple to differentiate high end, 16 to 32GB iPhone models from a low cost, smaller iPhone sibling. Reports of a smaller iPhone have been circulating since at least 2008, when a model offering a 2.8 inch screen and weighing about 20 percent less was reported to be in the pipeline.
Instead of offering a smaller version of the iPhone, Apple designed a cheaper version for its second edition 3G model, using a plastic back instead of an aluminum case.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
For those of you that have AT&T, they are now offering free mobile to mobile, any carrier and also giving away 1000 free rollover minutes. Just text "yes" to 11113020 to get the rollover minutes, have to call at&t to get the free mobile to mobile.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/atandt-...l-of-its-custo/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/atandt-...l-of-its-custo/
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Free mobile to mobile across all networks?? How??
Billy Bats
Footballguy
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Billy Bats
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Awesome. No new contract terms required for either of these bonuses??
Billy Bats
Footballguy
No sir. The free rollover minutes takes up to 4 weeks to process, according to the reply text I received.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I can probably ditch my early nights and weekends then!
culdeus
Footballguy
This is something they've tried to do since the very first version.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Really? That's disheartening. I want the screen to go edge to edge on it's current casing, minus the home button. I'm not sure I can handle a smaller virtual keyboard. My thumbs are even a touch too big for the IP4 now, can't imagine the trouble a smaller screen would cause. I can't find the link, but I did read a rumor that they want to do away with home button, and make it touch screen. So maybe the phone casing itself will be smaller, but the screen will remain the same size with getting rid of the home button? I could only hope.culdeus said:This is something they've tried to do since the very first version.4x champ said:[icon] said:
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Here's a n00b question.
For Verizon users, if you have two smartphone users in the house do you each need to have a data plan or is it one plan covers the whole account?
For Verizon users, if you have two smartphone users in the house do you each need to have a data plan or is it one plan covers the whole account?
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
It'd be one data plan for each, so two total.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
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Insoxicated
Apparently it looks like they're coming out with a smaller, cheaper version above... as well as a full 4" screen on the next model.Really? That's disheartening. I want the screen to go edge to edge on it's current casing, minus the home button. I'm not sure I can handle a smaller virtual keyboard. My thumbs are even a touch too big for the IP4 now, can't imagine the trouble a smaller screen would cause. I can't find the link, but I did read a rumor that they want to do away with home button, and make it touch screen. So maybe the phone casing itself will be smaller, but the screen will remain the same size with getting rid of the home button? I could only hope.This is something they've tried to do since the very first version.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Anybody download the new OS yet?
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Why not?
culdeus
Footballguy
It took me a ####### week to figure out how to jailbreak 421. Nothing on the change list looks attractive to me. Plus I want to make sure the baseband is cracked ok before killing the resale value of my phone.
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